Health Premiums Close Schools

09Dec10

Did You Bring Your Copay Money?

As purse strings tighten, school closures likely in Stratford
Brittany Lyte, Staff Writer
Published: 10:01 p.m., Wednesday, December 8, 2010

STRATFORD — The public school district will likely close one or more school buildings before next school year to alleviate some of the financial burden created by rising medical costs and budgetary constraints.

A 22-member long-range facilities planning committee, formed in September, is working with a consultant to identify opportunities to shut down schools by redistributing the district’s 7,362 student population among its 13 classroom buildings. There are currently nine elementary schools, two middle schools and two high schools in the district.

“The school system we have today will not be the school system we have in September,” said Board of Education Chairman Gavin Forrester, who also holds a seat on the committee. “I can pretty much guarantee that.”

In real numbers, BOE health insurance has gone from $12 million to $16.5 million in a single year. Most other expenses have remained as is or have actually gone down. It is hard to imagine what must be cut to equate to $4.5 million in savings.

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110 Responses to “Health Premiums Close Schools”

  1. 1 pcsperling

    OMG ~ I have SOOOOO much to say on this, I don’t know where to start. I’ll have to plug it in when I finish my next live letter! The BOE (East Broadway) is so flippin’ top heavy it’s just ridiculous….. We’ve got a SECRETARY making $74,000 a year, oh, wait – they changed her title so she could make that – so now she’s a GLORIFIED SECRETARY WITH A TITLE, making $74,000……. The tip of my iceberg:

    The salaries of the top administration at East Broadway are so flippin’ inflated it’s ridiculous. To say they in line with others across the state doesn’t make it right – it most likely makes them all wrong. They are keeping the gap between “them” and “us” so far apart it’s ridiculous!

    Also – there are departments that spend all their budget so they can get the same the following year – buying things and spending unnecessarily. WE NEED A FLIPPING FORENSIC AUDIT IMMEDIATELY OF EVERYTHING THAT’S SPENT BY EAST BROADWAY AND WE NEED IT NOW!

  2. 2 jezebel282

    PCS,

    I think you forgot to mention that not a single principal or assistant principal makes under $104,000/year and there are 16 of them.

    Could you possibly define “flippin”?

  3. 3 1george1

    BORED of EDUMACATUN Health Insurance rise

    $12 million to $16.5 million in a single year.
    Most other expenses have remained as is
    or have actually gone down.

    It is hard to imagine what must be cut to
    equate to $4.5 million in savings.

    -

    1 Mil is 4.56 Million

    Maybe the B utter nuts and Bad Medicine,
    need to buy a getaway complex in a tax
    sheltered dictator ship.

    Maybe they will eliminate Transportation
    and the Lunch program?

    Eliminating special ed would definitely do it!

    Maybe they can sell things made by students
    and pay them “inmate rates?”
    You know … to prepare them for their futures?

    -

    Let’s see?

    If I remember the Branyan presentation?

    If they elimnated one teacher, that Health
    Care cost was going to be:
    $ 18,700 gross cost – approx

    $ 2,400 approx was the 13 % premium the
    teachers had to pay. Was it this past year
    the $ 5000 deductable was picked up by
    the town?

    $ 16,200 was the approximate tax payer share
    per health care participant, for family.

    -

    These numbers appear to be going up about 28.125%

    As scoobey doo says “ruuttt oooh”

    18 600 * 1.28125 = $ 23,831.25 gross underestimated premium

    times 13 % teacher’s / Administrators’ share:

    $23 831.25 * .13 = $3,098.0625 gross estimated premium to teachers

    -

    Hey sudds!! How is my math?

    $ 23,831.25 gross underestimated premium
    minus
    $ 3,098.0625 gross estimated premium to teachers
    —————-

    $ 20,733.19 the money, just on BoE Tax Payers have to PAY, PER!!

    More good news

    Then there is the TOWN side.
    But BoE has far more employees than the 450 or so on town side.

    More good news

    RETIREES!

    More good news

    The BoE Plan was cheaper than the Town side.

    More good news

    Last year the TOP LEVEL Teacher was averaging between
    $ 88,000 + $ 93,000

    Have there been increases in?
    1 – Step levels
    2 – C. O. L. A.
    3 – Negotiated pay raises

    -

    Please … someone help Phin get back up ….

    Mayor 2013 has been real silent ….
    Has he moved outta town?

    Maybe Cyclops and Kane can come up with some dirt to solve dis problem?

    Mike R – You came a long way in your comments and often right on….
    What do you think of this?

    Sudds … ah Sudds …

    Chris moved outta Town. Sorry PORTIA – he proved his intelligence!

    Jeze – ya done good – edumakatin alla us.

    PORTIA likely to expound thunderously.
    I like those sarcastic and brief acid drops of plain speakin when really mad!

    GAVIN …… GAVIN ….. GAVIN …..
    In your 6 years on the town Council the Defined Beenefit Plan went up

    >> $ 884,454.95
    > $ 1,481,250.00
    > $ 1,541,963.40
    > $ 1,237,586.35
    >> $ 549,124.56
    >> $ 420,701.63

    > $ 6,115,080.67 total from Jan 2004 to July 24, 2009 to $ 17,230,395.87

    Let’s see …. subtract $ 6,115,080.67 from $ 17,230,395.87
    BALANCE $ 11,114,684.80

    Divide $ 11,114,684.80 in $ 6,115,080.67
    6 115 080.67 / 11 114 684.80 = 0.550180305 AKA 55 % increase in 69 months,
    while GAVIN was on the Town Council.

  4. 4 pcsperling

    Jeze ~

    I could define it, but it wouldn’t be printable…. It’s the acronym for the Naval term: For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, with an ING at the end……

    You are totally correct, but I think East Broadway needs to have a breast reduction….. They are much too top heavy and are standing on chicken legs…. Parents are going to up in arms – I’m one of them, and I’m the wife of a “low end” BOE employee! FORENSIC AUDIT! Let’s see where all that wasteful spending is…. from the bottled water that is only for East Broadway employees (rumour has it that two custodians got a written warning in their files from that high-paid, glorified secretary)….. That woman has way too much power and needs to be reigned in! The stories I hear are way out of line! Cornish has allowed her way too much power. She, Cornish and others need to go ~ a good housecleaning at East Broadway is necessary, and, if they need more money – maybe THEY can do somefundraising, hold bakesales, host snowflake bingos, etc., etc.

    The consultants report means nothing when there is no forensic audit to see exactly where the wasteful spending is….. They boo hoo about closing schools, but I don’t ever see them cutting their salaries, foregoing their bonuses and raises…… WTF!

  5. 5 jezebel282

    PCS,

    Wow! If that last post doesn’t wake Sudds up, he must be dead.

    You cannot have a 60% increase in insurance premiums and maintain the status quo. That is where the solution must come from.

  6. 6 cstratct

    Seems when I was living in Stratford and raised the compensation issue last year, certain people, including a former council member, felt I didn’t know my place and decided to chastise me for speaking out of turn. I was also met with derisive comments when I questioned the deal with Dr. Cornish.

    And just so Portia doesn’t come back with the idea that the new healthcare law was the culprit, those increases in healthcare came prior to passage. The healthcare premiums have been an issue for some time.

    I’ll step back from this issue since it is a local one. I just found it interesting that the compensation issue has returned to the forefront.

  7. 7 1george1

    I disagree with PCS (welcome back)

    WE NEED A FLIPPING FORENSIC AUDIT IMMEDIATELY OF EVERYTHING
    THAT’S SPENT BY EAST BROADWAY AND WE NEED IT NOW!

    We need a political enema. :( (teasin PCS)

    ——————————–

    “To say they in line with others across the state doesn’t make it right
    – it most likely makes them all wrong.
    They are keeping the gap between “them” and “us” so far apart it’s ridiculous!”

    PCS = “Bullseye”

    ——————————-

    For some reason IRENE was neither amused, nor receptive, to my idea …

    Eliminate all Principals and Assistants at the Schools.

    That might appear to save over $ 1.5 million in salaries and maybe the same
    in BENEFITS (see above)

    However, my futher positions:

    1 – Have most of them go back into TEACHING (20 % pay cut)

    2 – Have 4 rotating Administrator for
    A) 2 HS + 2 Jr HS
    B) Elementary Schools divided West & East
    C) Fillin

    3 – Turn Administrative Offices in schools into Class rooms.

    4 – Have all SUTTON PLACE / EAST BROADWAY BoE Secreataries cover phones
    for the key, morning hours. Then they can do their normal paper shuffle.

    5 – Use NUANCE SPEAK to see words on SCREEN Technology for Secretaries
    and Administrators

    6 – Eliminate or change BUSSING…… I DO NOT understand the LOGIC of
    children waiting 10, 20, 30 minutes for SCHOOL BUSSES in
    RAIN / COLD / WIND / SNOW / HEAT / TRAFFIC

    — Irene was incredulous.
    You’s a thunk that I cut off the SACRED COW’S HEAD?

    I pointed out:
    1) STRATFORD is ABOUT 18 square miles and that is only 4 MILES across!
    2) NO SCHOOLS > NORTH of I – 15
    3) 1 SCHOOL in the true SOUTH – Lordship
    4) Take North of the MERIT and LORDSHIP / AIRPORT-AVCO-SWAPS-Industrial
    area from Lordship Boulevard / Surf Ave / Honeyspot out of the EQUATION
    and 12 of 13 SCHOOLS are likely within 10 or 11 SQ MILES.
    > Do we need 20 + Adminitrators within 10 or 11 SQ MILES?

    Irene suggested I tour the schools and …. I just smiled and told her we
    are entitled to our beliefs.

    —-

    “To say they in line with others across the state doesn’t make it right
    – it most likely makes them all wrong.
    They are keeping the gap between “them” and “us” so far apart it’s ridiculous!”

    PCS = “Bullseye”

    If the Health Care program had less bells and whistles and if there was
    honest competition, PCS’s Husband could pay 40 % of the premium cost
    with NO EXTRA OUTTA POCKET cost!!

    HYPOTHETICAL:
    $ 6,000 Health Care cost x 40 % = $ 2,400

    $ 18,600 Health Care cost x 13 % = $ 2,418
    18 600 * .13 = 2 418

    I am not advocation schlock insurance, but good coverage for real needs
    at realistic costs.

    -

    Honest workers, in public and private sectors, need decent pay, benefits,
    and retirements. But PCS hit the BULLSEYE with:

    “They are keeping the gap between “them” and “us” so far apart it’s ridiculous!”

  8. 8 jezebel282

    Just a note:

    Welcome back to Stratford Michael Feeney (New BOE Chief Operating Officer). We wanted to make you feel just like you were still in Bridgeport.

  9. 9 pcsperling

    Welcome back to Mike Feeney – that guy we rehired making $66.00+ per hour??????? PULEEZE! He’s making $66+ per hour, while a custodian at Bunnell was hired making $14.17 per hour…… ROFLMAO!

    Sorry, but these people are way too overpaid!

  10. 10 jezebel282

    PCS,

    You seem to be holding back…

  11. 11 portia1776

    PCS is right on the money (literally)! Too bad we don’t have our own Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican even Jez will like (at least on this case). Gov. Christie passed landmark education reform designed to cut superintendent salaries, which will for the first time put downward pressure on all administrative salaries as well as upward pressure on achievement (super and teacher salaries above base pay are now being tied to objective standards). When crafty supers and their compliant school boards started to outmaneuver the cap — obscenely trying to renegotiate massive salary increases — Christie countered decisively. This is what real change looks like, ending public employee greed and corruption while rewarding the best teachers and administrators with pay commensurate with their actual achievements.

  12. 12 gforrester

    Ladies and Gentlemen;

    Again we get back to the same issues that have been explained over and over again. Are salaries too high, yes they are, but are they any higher than many other communities, no they are not. THERE ARE LESS ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS TODAY THEN 6 YEARS AGO. Let’s take Baseball Free Agents for example. Because one team (Yankess or Red Sox’s) decide to overpay for talent that drives the market up for everyone else. So let’s say we reduce Principals salaries 40%. They leave for other positions and then we have few if anyone to take their place. Why you might ask, because they need certifications given by the State to be Principals and no certified person worth a dime would take a job paying 40% less than anyone else inthe region, they will just leave for greener pastures and we have to try and coax retirees back to fill in. Almost everything that we do locally is governed by the State of CT one way or the other. Teachers are certified by the State, as are Administrators. Unfunded mandates are passed all the time by our elected State officals yet the blame for higher costs for education is focused on the local school boards. Are you aware that if a school district is deemed by the State to be failed then the State can come in and mandate “proper” funding to include compensation? Except for the medical insurance all other items in the budget that was passed last year were less than the rate of inflation. We actually had applicants turn down $138,000 as too little to offer for the position. I could go on all day about the amount of paperwork that the State and feds require for us to report and those reports don’t come out of thin air, ittakes people to generate them. We have 750 special needs children and each one requires a personal education plan that has to be created and documented. Our Schools have been forced to not only try and education our children but also feed them in the morning, teach them right from wrong, monitor and encourage them to do their homework, and basically raise them.

    Now let’s get to forensic audit. Close to 90% of BOE costs are fixed in either transporation, salaries, medical benefits, or utilities. The BOE is a part of the Town’s independent audit annually and no funds are unaccounted for.

    People don’t like the cost of education, I get it, but until we get relief from Washington and Hartford and the entire system is allowed to change, we are left to do the best we can and that does not mean we fire everyone or break contracts that we have in place, many of which have hard -0-’s for Teachers and Administrators. Chris Christe is not CT’s governor so until the people of the State of CT elect someone like him we play by the rules that are established.

    We have had public sessions on the budget for the BOE for years and few people come, less educate themselves on the issues, but many have their opinion. We are open to workable suggestions so feel free to email them to me.

  13. 13 ronmoreau

    Gavin,

    “Chris Christe is not CT’s governor…”

    I like his stile.

  14. 14 1george1

    “Again we get back to the same issues that have been explained
    over and over again.”

    CARDINAL RICHELIEU: “Give me 4 sentences, and I can find cause
    to hang any man.” There are many people, especially lawyers,
    who can “explain” or “justify anything.”
    I suspect Bernie Madoff, was excellent at explaining things.

    ” Are salaries too high, yes they are, but are they any higher than
    many other communities, no they are not. ”

    THERE ARE LESS ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS TODAY THEN 6 YEARS AGO.

    Let’s pick a different year?
    How does one define “Administrative Positions?”
    And IF, the prior Superintendent loved building “Administrative Positions”
    for “certain reasons” …. as PCS wrote … is that RIGHT?

    If I remember correctly Esq Burturla’s and Esq. Florek’s wives are teachers.
    Florek started being Town Attorney 1989 or 1991.
    Town Council Chairman 1987-189 Burturla’s Council caused the mini Budget,
    which led to the TOWN REFERENDUMS, which Gavin has helped destroy,
    with politically created failures (same as nationwide)
    NO CONFLICTS of INTEREST?
    I suspect a significant number of politically connected decision makers
    with family in education. However politically connecter rule makers do
    not seem to have to play by the same rules as non barraty persons?
    Of 169 CT Communities Berchem, Moses, Devlin, Burturla represents (ed)
    23 Education Districts.
    Eddie Sutton was a Bank Robber “Because that’s where the money is.”
    Stratford’s East Broadway BoE’s entrance is on Sutton place.

    -

    Let’s take Baseball Free Agents for example. (PLAY BALL!)
    Because one team (Yankess or Red Sox’s) decide to overpay for
    talent that drives the market up for everyone else.

    There are 30 Teams with 25 man rosters – best 750 players in the world.
    Changing rules on teaching certification and administrative certification
    to people with LIFE EXPERIENCE, would dramatically increase the pool of
    potential applicants, if the selection process was NOT RIGGED.
    Portia and I call it MARKET FORCES. ;)
    We all know in Stratford, everything is on the UP + UP! ROTFLMAO
    Gavin – As Richie Fredette loves to say “HEY! This IS Stratford!”

    So let’s say we reduce Principals salaries 40%. They leave for other
    positions and then we have few if anyone to take their place.

    > Gavin FLAWED ARGUMENT!
    1 – Rules and Laws are changed like LIFE EXPERIENCE suggestion.
    2 – Many with Teaching and Administrative degrees are unemployed
    and/or laid off.
    3 – People in other states, with lower pay …. YA GETS THE IDEA!

    Why you might ask, because they need certifications given by the
    State to be Principals and no certified person worth a dime would
    take a job paying 40% less than anyone else inthe region, they will
    just leave for greener pastures and we have to try and coax
    retirees back to fill in.

    > Gavin, Gavin, – There are NO unemployed certified administrators?
    There are no people qualified to get certification?
    There are no capable/competent/skilled people looking to get into
    good paying careers (BETTER than UNEMPLOYED BROKER/AGENT or
    LAWYER, who could not and have not positioned themselves to become
    an Administrator and take $ 80,000,000 administrator entry level pay?

    Almost everything that we do locally is governed by the State of CT
    one way or the other.

    > Gavin is right, and the FEDS affect the State.

    Teachers are certified by the State, as are Administrators.

    > YEP

    Unfunded mandates are passed all the time by our elected State
    officals yet the blame for higher costs for education is focused
    on the local school boards.

    > YUP – PARTIALLY TRUE
    > The state did not negotiate:
    1) The rolls royce coverage in Health Care
    2) The multiple pay raises
    - A) Step increases
    - B) Negotiated pay increases
    - C) C. O. L. A.
    - D) $ 5000 GIFT PAY RAISE disguised as paying Health Savings Account’s
    DEDUCTABLE by Tom phoney-Malloy’s BoE
    - E) PAY disguised as Expenses or Benefits

    Are you aware that if a school district is deemed by the State to
    be failed then the State can come in and mandate “proper” funding
    to include compensation?

    AWARE – SYSTEMIC PROBLEM

    Except for the medical insurance all other items in the budget
    that was passed last year were less than the rate of inflation.

    I am 100 % sure the statement is “apparently true,” yet experience
    tells me there are shells for the peas, and funds for the slush.
    Oldest trick in sales, is to lower facts into subgroups.

    We actually had applicants turn down $138,000 as too little to
    offer for the position.

    IT HAPPENS – DEREK JETER turned down $ 15 million a year.

    I could go on all day about the amount of paperwork that the State
    and Feds require for us to report and those reports don’t come out
    of thin air, it takes people to generate them.

    SYSTEMIC BUREAUCRACY where PAPER GENERATERS create work for
    themselves and locals for mutually reinforcing job justification and
    job security. It used to be called PAPER SHUFFLING + PETER PRINCIPLE!
    If government had better PRINCIPLES, we would need less PRINCIPLES? :(

    We have 750 special needs children and each one requires a
    personal education plan that has to be created and documented.

    Job justifiers and PYA, to please the PLUTOCRATIC ESQUIARCHY.

    Our Schools have been forced to not only try and education our
    children but also feed them in the morning,

    EXCELLENT PROGRAM = CREDIT to IRENE.
    NUTRICIAN affects ability to learn, behavior, and morph of physical/mental
    interaction

    teach them right from wrong,

    It has always been true that schools supplement roles of parents and
    the operative word is “teach” right from wrong.

    monitor and encourage them to do their homework,
    and basically raise them.

    ALWAYS been “part of the JOB. and job description > ALWAYS
    There are governmental decisios since the 1960s which adversely
    impact local education and local families.

    Now let’s get to forensic audit. Close to 90% of BOE costs are fixed
    in either transporation, salaries, medical benefits, or utilities.

    TRANSPORTATION = NEGOTIATED
    SALARIES = NEGOTIATED (Interest conflicts?)
    MEDICAL BENEFITS = NEGOTIATED (Interests conflicts? Referal fees?)
    BENEFITS = NEGOTIATED (Interest conflicts?)
    UTILITIES = NEGOTIATED

    The BOE is a part of the Town’s independent audit annually and
    no funds are unaccounted for.

    CT’S ARTHUR ANDERSON was ENRON’S ACCOUNTING / AUDITING FIRM.
    ARTHUR ANDERSON was found not guilty of criminal violations and was
    acting on FINANCIAL INFORMATION provided by ENRON. G. I. G. O.

    People don’t like the cost of education, I get it, but until we get relief
    from Washington and Hartford and the entire system is allowed to change,

    GAVIN is partially correct / this point goes back to UNFUNDED MANDATES
    FEB 2009 – EDUCATION SECRETARY ARNE DUNCAN on CSPAN to SENATE.
    ” FOR YEARS / DECADES, the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT mandated X, Y, & Z,
    and was supposed to FUND 40 %. However the FUNDING has been 14%. ”

    we are left to do the best we can and that does not mean we fire everyone or break contracts that we have in place, many of which have hard -0-’s for Teachers and Administrators. Chris Christe is not CT’s governor so until the people of the State of CT elect someone like him we play by the rules that are established.

    We have had public sessions on the budget for the BOE for years
    and few people come,

    BEEN THERE
    DONE THAT
    OFTEN I AM THE ONLY CITIZEN in AUDIENCE

    less educate themselves on the issues,

    YUP

    but many have their opinion.

    USA USA USA USA USA UAS (dysflexic) USA USA USA

    We are open to workable suggestions so feel free to email them to me.

    LAST TIME I MET THE MAYOR my HOME WAS BROKEN INTO.
    LAST E-MAIL I GOT from GAVIN it was FILLED with TROJAN / MALWARE /
    SPYWARE and was too appropriate cover for the LOG ME IN destruction
    of my computer system for 5 months.
    Supposedly Gavin’s computer was taken over.
    Magically his problems ceased immediately.

    I was placed on the TOM MOORE FAC Financial Advisory Commission,
    whose SOLE direction was to look at 7 POLICE OFFICERS – JAN 2008
    > Bob Sammis, myself, and Thomas Angelo were on the subcommittee.
    > Like an auditor, the subcommittees was given selected information.
    > Whatever Bob and I asked for, we didn’t get.
    > A phrase NO DISCERNABLE WRONG DOING was placed in the FINDINGS.
    > BOB SAMMIS and I objected.
    > The PHRASE was REMOVED by vote in our Committee.
    > MAGICALLY it REAPPEARED in the FINAL REPORT to the TOWN COUNCIL
    > BOB SAMMIS and I objected at PUBLIC FORUM, prior to presentation
    of the report later in session. We undermined the report with PHASE
    “NO DECERNABLE WRONG DOING.”
    > The report was rescheduled, with the PHRASE.
    > TWO DAYS before the REPORT, my T I R E was S L A S H E D to frighten me.
    - I could have caused an accident killing/harming me and/or innocents!

    I brought the slashed TIRE to the TOWN COUNCIL.
    Reporters took pictures of the SLASH
    I presented the SLASHED TIRE to the TOWN COUNCIL at PUBLIC FORUM.
    I pointed out the co-incidence of FAC report / Bob and I protest, and
    the slashed tire.

    During Council comments, not a single Councilor addressed the issue.
    I held the TIRE in FRONT of me, when it was HENRICK’S TURN.
    He was not addressing the ISSUE.

    I placed the TIRE around my NECK as a PROTEST / SLAVES wear YOKES!

    -

    Gavin has never, ever expressed sympathy or suggestions to help.

    We are cordial about meetings, including causing the creation of BoE
    PRINTED BOE FINAL BUDGET, supplementing the PROPOSED BOE BUDGET.

    Gavin was gracious to allow me in debates.

    Gavin is great at scheduling meetings, and we have parallel interests.

    However Gavin and the boys have a BLUE WALL / OMERTA type thing
    going where they justify or find justificating steering money to some
    and taking massive money from unaffiliated.

    Most stuff was not done by Gavin, but he knows better than most people
    about stuff that happens. There are peer groups among peer groups and
    they all talk and most stuff is common knowledge OR connect dots type
    of knowledge.

    BOARD of ED is ABOUT JOBS – not EDUCATING CHILDREN

    POLICE / FIRE / EMS = PUBLIC SAFETY is about PROTECTING POLITICALLY
    CONNECTED and NOT the PUBLIC
    POLICE CAR: “to protect and serve ..” (whom? themselves? patrons?)

    ADMINISTRATIONS are about STEERING JOBS, PROMOTIONS, CONTRACTS,
    CHANGE ORDERS, APPOINTMENTS, etc
    - They care nothing about the people in general …..

    —-

    In 1998 I started going to Town Council and other meetings

    Until watching political decisions instead of logical, moral, ethical, or
    legal decision, I could never understand
    SLAVERY, RACISM, DRUG TRAFFIC, CORRUPTION, GRAFT

    I could relate to nepotism and patronage – people help their kids
    and the friends / friends kids. My view was more polite.

    I started going to the bathroom late in the Henrich’s 2 years when they
    were about to say a prayer and pledge of alligence to start a meeting!
    WHY?

    They did the OPPOSITE of WHATEVER they PRAYED they wanted to do!!!

    They should change the Pledge to LIBERTY and JUSTICE for POLITICAL
    PARTY members, government, and allies!!!

    As nice and civil as these people can appear to be their “values” are just
    the opposites of positions they state.

    -

    One clarity – I do not suggest any councilor of being a drug pusher
    or violent criminal. However the financial violence wrought on the
    general public, becomes more eggregarious …

    Gavin … you must be studying to much with Chuck Lindberg.
    Likely, ya do most for the right reasons.
    But Gavin, of all of the political people in town … you frustrate me the most.

  15. 15 1george1

    “People don’t like the cost of education, I get it,”

    GAVIN > PRIORITIES! – PRIORITIES! – PRIORITIES! – PRIORITIES – PRIORITIES

    O’C built an empire of Administrators ,,, a PYRAMID

    -

    Years ago outside Town Hall, during a union / council meeting brake,
    a UNION REP said it BEST.

    MANAGEMENT wants to give us the PAY, BENEFITS, TERMS + CONDITIONS…
    Whatever we get ….. They gotta get better!

    The more Adminstrators get paid …. the more Superintendent must command.

    -

    The more the primary / local schools / boards get compenated,
    the more the HIGHER EDUCATION can command.

    -

    The more the government education industry can demand, because
    guess where they seek their hires, besides within ……

    Some over compensated relative of a politically connected operative,
    who has value added potential.

    -

    People go from Private Sector or Corporations to Public Sector.

    Savvy / connected Public Sector people retiring relatively young with a
    wealth of contacts can be valuable to Private Sector and Corporations

    Of course Private Sector Corporations

    Incest infects

  16. 16 pcsperling

    Gavin stated:

    “Are salaries too high, yes they are, but are they any higher than many other communities, no they are not.”

    Gavin ~ that is exactly my point. Because they are not higher than other communities and, from what I get you are saying, are “in line” with other communities still does not make it right! The Administrators are creating a very top heavy situation. And the little guys – the ones who work in the “trenches of the schools” – which would include the teachers (whose day does not end for our children when they walk out of the school at the end of the day), the custodians (who keep our schools clean, maintained, clean up our kids puke, and whatever else may be left behind), the CIAs who take care of the special needs children (helping them in the classroom, to the bathroom, perhaps living in and out of wheelchairs), etc…… these little guys are what fills those chicken lefts and you BOE members and the administration are breaking those chicken lefts with your top heavy administrative hiring numbers. It’s pretty flippin’ f’d up if you ask me. A top to bottom cleansing of the BOE needs to be done and it needs to start at the top.

    Pay cuts for administrators – start there. No raises for them, no “merit” bonuses – which basically amounts to giving them the money that was “saved” in contract negotiations, etc. It’s all political BS, and frankly, I’m really sick and tired of it! I’ve never seen so many educated people with so little common sense – so little disregard for anyone but themselves – making sure no one takes their “food” away from them – Get rid of Cornish, her high-paid secretary, and others – find people who are willing to work for our children, and the families that pay their salaries.

    Portia is right – we need a Chris Christie! Someone with BALLS!

  17. 17 pcsperling

    CORRECTION: I’ve never seen so many educated people with so little common sense – so little REGARD for anyone but themselves…..

    I’m sure you get my point!

    That old saying….. when momma ain’t happy, ain’t no body happy…..

    FORENSIC AUDIT NOW! STARTING AT THE TOP!

  18. 18 pcsperling

    Oh, and Jeze – I think Mike Feeney was the wrong guy for the job – never should have let him back in Stratford. Didn’t like him when he was in Town Hall – prior to his taking on the Town Manager position and after – don’t like him now. I’ve heard from the “horse’s mouth” about how some community people were treated, and – in my opinion – he was a loser then, and I’m not sure much has changed…… He’s an administration hire and he won’t work for the people, he’ll work for them….. Another “Miron” with a different name, if you ask me!

  19. 19 pcsperling

    PS…. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY….LET’S START FRIDAY WITH A BANG!

  20. 20 jezebel282

    Mr. Forrester,

    Thank you for taking the time to respond. I know you must be incredibly busy with the BOE and your volunteer work with EMS and the mess there.

    “Let’s take Baseball Free Agents for example. Because one team (Yankess or Red Sox’s) decide to overpay for talent that drives the market up for everyone else.”

    You might have chosen a different analogy than the two most profitable and successful teams in organized sports. (Next time, at least spell “Yankees” correctly?).

    “THERE ARE LESS ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS TODAY THEN 6 YEARS AGO.”
    How many less? 1, 2?

    “Our Schools have been forced to not only try and education our children but also feed them in the morning, teach them right from wrong, monitor and encourage them to do their homework, and basically raise them.”
    Whoa, hold on there Buckaroo. That’s what schools do. You can’t give homework to a teenager and assume it will be done every day. As for “feeding them in the morning”, I believe there are certain criteria for that, like living below poverty level?
    Admittedly, full day Kindergarten is a demand by some parents who use it as free daycare.

    You are correct about unfunded mandates by the State and Feds. English as a Second Language, placements by the DCF, CAPT tests, CMT tests, Special Needs placements including transportation and nursing care and all the paperwork and labor that go with it are a great burden on the budget.

    However, nothing damages our school system more than a 60% rate increase by Connecticare Health Insurance. As rising insurance rates over the last 10 years have driven companies out of business or forced them to reduce payroll, it affects other institutions like school systems and municipalities as much.

    Whether or not this could have been foreseen is a very interesting question. But certainly it is an issue that must be addressed. As I am sure PCS will confirm, the “reason” given by Connecticare was somehow related to “high” usage. This is almost laughable if it wasn’t so painful. I cannot imagine that upon receiving this coverage teachers, custodians, cafeteria workers, secretaries, curriculum directors and principals suddenly became more ill than the rest of the population.

    If we are forced to close a school, increase class size, layoff custodians and teachers it will be the direct action of Connecticare’s rate increase and no one else.

  21. 21 jezebel282

    PCS,

    “Another “Miron” with a different name, if you ask me!”

    Still holding back, I see.

    As for Feeney, I still have hope. As CFO of Bridgeport he certainly learned how to deal with budget deficits. Also he’s been there a little less than 3 weeks. I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he at least memorizes the names of all 13 schools.

    And you never know…this may be Ben Branyan’s revenge on Feeney for some past transgression.

  22. 22 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “Chris Christie, a Republican even Jez will like (at least on this case). Gov. Christie passed landmark education reform designed to cut superintendent salaries,”

    You mean after he blew the chance at all that Federal funding?

    Gov. Christie looks as if he’s taken his own advice too often to “suck it up”.

  23. 23 sudds

    “LET’S START FRIDAY WITH A BANG!”

    Sweet Mother of Jesus… does this mean that Hell has finally frozen over?!?!?! :wink:

  24. 24 pcsperling

    Taken directly from ConnectiCare’s website:

    “ConnectiCare achieved over $1 billion in revenue in 2009 and has been ranked on Connecticut Magazine’s Top 100 list of largest companies with headquarters in the state.”

    They are a “for-profit” insurance company – and they’re making a FORTUNE on the little guys!

    When the switch to ConnectiCare was made – from what I have been told – the employees were just told there was a switch, given the package, no explanations, nada…… They were given very little information – other than it’s going to cost them less and save the BOE money…… GOOD RIDDENS BEN BRANYAN! Now he’s “SCREWED” lots of little guys who are making lots of money for the big guys!

  25. 25 1george1

    PCS > FORENSIC AUDIT NOW! STARTING AT THE TOP!

    GEORGE > We don’t need no stinkin forensic audit!
    We need a political enema!
    There is PE many of us can agree on!

    From my post # 14, relating to Forensic Audit
    CT’S ARTHUR ANDERSON was ENRON’S ACCOUNTING / AUDITING FIRM.
    ARTHUR ANDERSON was found not guilty of criminal violations and was
    acting on FINANCIAL INFORMATION provided by ENRON. G. I. G. O.

    See my experience with the F. A. C. – Certain people think because
    they can control one set of FACTS, the real FACTS never come out?

    —–

    Gavin ~ that is exactly my point. Because they are not higher than
    other communities and, from what I get you are saying, are “in line”
    with other communities still does not make it right!
    The Administrators are creating a very top heavy situation.

    1 – GOLDEN RULES > They / he who have the GOLD, make the RULES.
    2 – GOLDEN RULES > They / he who have the GOLD, want more GOLD.
    3 – GOLDEN RULES > They / he who have NO GOLD, (or H O P E) will
    likely not sit idley bye, when their homes and lives and families are
    under assault.

    I prefer “THE GOLDEN RULE:” “Do unto others as you desire done to yourself.”
    or let’s play nice and treat each other nicely.

  26. 26 1george1

    I called the Board of Ed to find out what the HSA premiums were?
    I was transferred to Mike Feeney’s office.
    I was pleasantly surprized by whom I spoke to ….
    She was unsure of the new HSA premiums?
    She thought $ 24,000? or $ 21,000?
    She will find out monday.

    If the gross premium is $ 24,000, and the employee cost is 13% ($ 3,160),
    then the Cost to Tax Payers is $ 20,840 per employee.

    Many Tax Payers do NOT have Health Care?

    National Averages for Health Care gross costs:
    1999 = $ 6,000
    2009 = $ 12,000

    Stratford BOE cost $ 18,600 – $ 2,400 = $ 16,200 per recipient family plan
    + $ 5000 Town paying the full deductable = $ 21,200

    I want employees to have Health Care.

    Gavin – What do YOU consider is FAIR to the TAX PAYERS

    Gavin – You are in the Health Care Industry …. utt ooohh … naahhhh

  27. 27 jezebel282

    George,

    “I called the Board of Ed to find out what the HSA premiums were?”
    Let me guess, you called them around 4PM on a Friday? As far as I know, the BOE does not have a call center in India yet.

    “Many Tax Payers do NOT have Health Care?”
    Nor will they ever after the GOP gets through.

    “National Averages for Health Care gross costs:
    1999 = $ 6,000
    2009 = $ 12,000″

    I would feel more informed if you knew what they were in Connecticut. I am sure they are different than Mississippi’s.

    It would also be really interesting to find out if Connecticare has similar rates for other groups of 1,000 or more.

  28. 28 1george1

    Actually I called about 1:15 pm.
    Feeney was meeting with Cornish.
    I called about 2:40?
    Not available.

    Classy lady I spoke to told me the lady to talk to was just back from
    maternity leave. Friday was a mute issue.

    I expect a call or email by mid monday am.
    However, I should have answers to my questions Saturday.

    Actually Jeze, since you title the blog string, perhap you know the answers.

    1) Total premium per family and what it is for individual.

    2) Is the percent participants pay still 13 %?

    3) If you get absolutely correct $$#s on 1) + 2) = 3) ;)

    Jeze do you think you can handle this with your network of friends?

  29. 29 jezebel282

    George,

    “Jeze do you think you can handle this with your network of friends?”

    ROTFLMAO!
    After nearly two years of editing this blog I have no friends. Just ask anyone in Town Hall or on the RTC & DTC.

    I doubt I can come up with the answers you seek for a very simple reason. Every union and bargaining unit in this Town negotiates it’s own benefit package. Even within the BOE. So while their may be some who pay 13% there will be others that pay more. While some may have bargained for the deductible coverage, others must pay the full amount of the HSA account.

    For example, within the BOE there are full time employees that are paid so little that they cannot afford the premiums and must rely on CT’s HUSKIE program to cover their child while they go without coverage of any kind. That won’t show up in any numbers you will come up with.

    Simple, huh?

  30. 30 phineast

    Gavin,
    Thank you for taking the time to comment. You are correct about much of what you discussed BUT there is a big cost to the BOE that is like an elephant in the room that only a tiny portion is governed by mandates. That is transportation. While we all understand the need for using buses, it is a NON educational item that is in the budget that does not offer equal access to each and every student. Million of dollars are spent every year without any parent subsidizing. I bet all the parents that take their kids to and from school each day would love a gas voucher…but it is not realistic. There is a specific criteria for busing-the rest is ALL BOE POLICY. I spent most of the afternoon researching this at both the state and local level after reading your comment.
    The other area that you can reduce is in extra curricular activities. They are called EXTRA for a reason. While I personally would love to be able to offer everyone everything for free-it is just not possible. Someone has to pay for it. Many will say it is unfair to those kids who have no money…well guess what…it is unfortunate but that is too damn bad-maybe it will motivate some of the kids and parents into action for achievement instead of getting it on a silver platter handed to them in the name of equal opportunity for financial in-equity. This should serve as a key motivation for the kids-”THE MORE YOU LEARN, THE MORE YOU EARN” and to get off their cell phones and do school work. Life isn’t fair- we know that. Most of us have had to actually WORK for what we have-not go pick it up at local holiday gift drive while driving a mercedes SUV on our way to cashing a state check. If I didn’t have the money, my family had to do without or one of us had to get another job-even if it was minimum wage to help out(or raking leaves, shoveling snow and mowing lawns)…earning money legally isn’t a crime. Anyone can need a hand for the short term but what we deal with is ridiculous.

    We have sooooo many special needs kids in our district-why is that? Many of these kids are behavioral problems-tack a label on them and it costs the taxpayer a fortune. An SEM label doesn’t justify bad behavior-it enables it in many many instance. Maybe parents of some of these kids should be paying more attention to the kids and their needs, when they don’t the kids act out in school and the taxpayers get zapped as do all the other students in the class. Not fair to the masses if you ask me….Maybe all the “good” kids should have the one on one and be rewarded for their hard work to push the bar higher and the ones with behavioral issues lumped in large classes…..
    Why is it that we have to pay nursing costs? That is a medical issue not a BOE issue. Same thing with physical therapy-it is outside the BOE curriculum. Where exactly is parental responsibility in all this????? These are just some of the many areas that need to be addressed.
    So Gavin, are you and all the other members of the BOE going to have a meeting with all the other BOE’s and then have a meeting with the state legislators to get some of the mandates that are choking the life out of the towns and every resident in the state repealed??? You have Laura and Terry’s numbers for starters. I will stand right beside you if you do.
    Do us all a favor-if you close school(s) for operational costs for cripe sakes DON’T sell the property this time lease it out.

  31. 31 phineast

    PCS- I agree with you about Feeney-he was the one that began the secure bunker theory and Miron and his paranoia ran with it. I do not believe that Stratford has acquired an asset in his hiring-he is very very Napoleonic……I believe that it is more money down the political alimentary canal……I do believe it is time for all of us to invest in FLEETS…….

  32. 32 jezebel282

    Phin,

    “Why is it that we have to pay nursing costs? That is a medical issue not a BOE issue.”

    Are you kidding me? Disability equals no education? If you are 8 years old and blind or hearing impaired or wheelchair-bound or breathing impaired or epileptic or anything else you are not entitled to a public education unless your parents can afford one?

    Should we also close the Baldwin Center and senior transport? Maybe eliminate all those lazy unruly seniors from Title 19?

    I think you need little more thought on this one.

  33. 33 1george1

    ROTFLMAO!
    After nearly two years of editing this blog I have no friends.
    Just ask anyone in Town Hall or on the RTC & DTC.

    HOW IS THE PLAY WRITE DOING?
    THE PLAY WRITE endorsed me over GAVIN, because:
    “Everyone in Town Hall hates George Mulligan.”

    Ya mean I gots to let you into my club?

    ========

    I doubt I can come up with the answers you seek for a very simple reason.
    Every union and bargaining unit in this Town negotiates it’s own benefit package.

    My question was partially rhettorical and partially to get the new top HSA
    number under which most of the family package members pay.

    It was also get get the legions of our readers stirred up !!!!!

    -

    Don’t you yearn for the period where I had NO POSTS, and neither did any
    one else?

    -

    Years ago, I embarassed the O’C BOE into providing ALL DAY KINDERGATEN
    to ANYONE who wanted it?

    Do I care that many poorer families use it as FREE Nursey School?
    > Yes I care and I endorse helping poor people avoid a cost to help them
    and their young families to “better survive.” (sorry PORTIA!)
    > Meanwhile those children got the same treatment afforded those who
    didn’t have to worry about the lottery (wink).
    >> The children
    1 – got a head start = equality
    2 – were not starting a year behind, academically
    3 – got a year of socialization
    4 – got a year of nutrician
    5 – got a year of exposure to medical and educational diagnosis

  34. 34 1george1

    Phin,

    Gavin, Malloy, Burturla, Kelly, Harkins, Miron, Branyan, Feeney,
    Barnhart and others are far to intelligent and capable NOT to
    have INTENTIONALLY caused the problems in town.

    Extra curricula activities are almost as important getting into college
    as grades are.
    NY column pointed out unemployment looks this way:
    5 % with a college degree
    15 % without

    Nurse health care in schools isn’t just a law, it is good policy / humanity.
    Children are germ magnets.
    And they are very generous passing illnesses.
    Including to parents, who have to work to put food on the table.
    Doctors / Nurses take some silly thing called the HYPPOCRATIC OATH.
    > Unlike the OATH sworn by Town Council and Town officials THOSE
    PEOPLE actually understand their OATH to HUMANITY and practice ….

    I have criticisms related to Transportation and Special Ed.
    I suspect we have similarities and differences.

    Some Special is very severe and humanity / law /decency dictates.
    However 9 % of the student population?

    -

    I have kids / parents parked in front of my home, waiting for busses.
    I have driven past children standing in the rain, waiting for busses.
    Something does not make sense?
    Not just in Stratford ….

  35. 35 phineast

    Jez and George- you misunderstand me-I believe that each building should have a school nurse, what I am saying is parents that have children in the system that require nursing care to perform in school should be paying for it. Parental responsibility has to come into play some where. If this is something that is draining resources for all the students and effecting their performance then something needs to be done. The same goes for PT and things like that–it falls under the medical umbrella and maybe the families should be subsidizing it or the insurance companies they have (if any) should be billed. Same thing for nursing…you can bill the health insurance companies for treatments and care that is given. Why is it not being done???????? Seems to me that if EMS can bill, you can bill for nursing care in a school.
    Law or not there is a financial liability and responsibility that needs to be handled.

    Busing in town has frustrated me for a long time. The buses stop every 100 feet to drop a student off or pick them up–no wonder there are obesity issues with students, they don’t have to actually WALK any where. Getting a ride to the ride is absurd, almost as absurd as the taxpayers paying for rides to school. Getting kids to and from school is a parent’s responsibility. Period.

    Jez- disability doesn’t mean no education. It means you can have the same dollar value of education as every other child in town which is currently about $10k per student. Taxpayers should NOT be financially liable for $125k worth of costs for ONE student that has special needs. It should be financially equal. If it costs more, it should be the parents job to take care of the bill. Life isn’t fair and it sucks that anyone has “special” needs-but it is not the governments job to foot the bill for every misfortune that falls on someone. Now if members of the community choose to fund raise and donate resources toward that end-fine. It just shouldn’t be mandated to pay anything above what every other child gets. Leaves the door open for the average child and their parents to sue the town for not doing enough to give their child a higher level of learning success that is equal to the costs spent on the disabled child. Just saying their are many many ways to view these situations. The state and federal government is mandating us into oblivion and it has to stop.
    Jez- we were talking about education-not seniors…we can debate the medicare carte blanche mentality another day.

    At the end of the day, it is just my opinion-and no Jez, I really don’t need to think any more about this one.

  36. 36 1george1

    Phin,
    Good explanation.
    I admit I misunderstood your position on school nurses.
    I understand what you wrote.
    I am not sure how much I agree or disagree?
    > I just read it.
    > Issue is complicated.
    > You deserve credit for origin thought and articulation!
    > You deserve credit for stirring the pot!
    Getting me, at least, to think?
    Good job!

    —-

    Bussing?
    The whole town is 18 sq miles.
    Exclude Lordship + Lordship Boulevard + Industrial area around Honeyspot,
    Surf Av., ST. Michael Cemetary, Bruce Avenue and edges along Bridgeport
    border and 12 schools, “might be” in “9 square miles.”

    To my mind, that raises issues about Bussing and number of Principles and
    Vice Principles …. Operational use of Resources.
    Phin
    > Issues are complicated.
    > You deserve credit for origin thought and articulation!
    > You deserve credit for stirring the pot!

    “Life isn’t fair and it sucks that anyone has “special” needs-but it is not
    the governments job to foot the bill for every misfortune that falls on
    someone.”

    Phin, I suspect you would be the first to agree, it depends on case by case
    situations.

    -

    “Now if members of the community choose to fund raise and donate
    resources toward that end-fine.”

    Not everyone has the ability to rally the Community or figure the system.
    I suspect that IN RETROSPECTION, Jeze and others “MIGHT” feel I offered
    the ONLY REAL ALTERNATIVES for STRATFORD MAYOR and MAY have been
    the BEST QUALIFIED and BEST CHOICE of the 4 (+1) CANDIDates?

    MIRON? – Not on this WEBSITE
    HARKINS? – “Mini Miron” with genteel, suave, and political manners, far more
    sartorial respendid than I.
    (Hey Jeze, any suggestions on how to get “stains” outta my “sweats?”) ;)
    DOM? – ERNEST, but ex-Bridgeport Police, like DeBicilla’s father. (part of system)
    JON? – Not on this WEBSITE

    ONLY voting for those who ran, who do you honestly believe represented
    your best interest and the best interests of Stratford, Residents & Business,
    as well as Departments’ personnel?

    Jeze want to put that to a VOTE?
    Not an OPTION – “NONE of the ABOVE” = WAY I would VOTE!!! :)

    Am I the best qualified, in Stratford, to be Stratford’s Mayor?
    No!
    I can think of an easy dozen people both more capable and qualified,
    yet I would N E V E R VOTE for, nor ENDORSE!

    I NEVER seriously wanted the Stratford Mayoral JOB.
    I ran to expose FACTS and be WING MAN for a NADER surrogate or BUDA,
    or ANYONE I believed was NOT a PARTY PROXY!

    -

    “It just shouldn’t be mandated to pay anything above what every other
    child gets.”

    I believe in EQUAL PROTECTION of the LAW – NOT SUPERIOR RIGHTS.

    Even within that, reality is there are soooooo many justifiable exceptions!
    It boils down to P R I O R I T I E S.
    Everyone has different P R I O R I T I E S.

    -

    Just saying their are many many ways to view these situations. The state
    and federal government is mandating us into oblivion and it has to stop.
    (please see above)

    Jez- we were talking about education-not seniors…
    we can debate the medicare carte blanche mentality another day.
    (ROTFLMAO! – How does it feel Jeze, getting called on posting in the wrong
    blog string? *) – Truth is once PORTIA, YOU, and CHRIS started arguing the
    big picture / national issues – you loosened up on relevance moving … ;) )

    -

    “At the end of the day, it is just my opinion-
    and no Jez, I really don’t need to think any more about this one.”

    Phin,
    You have always been a thoughtful poster.
    Often you had to check facts / situations with people.
    Sometimes the information you were given turned very insightful.
    Other times, some information was likely politically biased.
    However … NEVER VULGER – ALWAYS ARTICULATE.
    OFTEN POLITICAL – NEVER EGREGARIOUSLY MINDLESS or EXCESSIVE.
    MOST OFTEN your opinion about what you believe is BEST.

    I respect honest differrences of OPINION.

  37. 37 phineast

    Thank you, George.
    “on a case by case basis”-possibly-but not necessarily. If a special needs child has the $10k per student allotted to work with and the parent finds a better way to get their child educated than in the Stratford school system, this is the only time that I would advocate for vouchers-the parents would still be responsible for any cost differences and if there were any savings it would stay in the district.
    One of my kids had special needs-but we never put that financial burden on the school system. It was and is not fair and equitable to the entire school population. End of story, my kid is my responsibility.
    I will disagree with you about Harkins being a mini-Miron. If that were the case he would have fired someone on a daily basis and kept Stratford in the headlines as the worst political arena in the state in which to live. That is not the case. It appears that Harkins puts a lot of thought into the approaching of things and is realistic about the state of affairs. I may not agree with everything he does, but I respect his intent thus far. When Miron was in office Stratford was at a subterranean level as far as credibility goes. Housing prices plummeted-beyond the market standards. That is finally slowly beginning to turn around. If we could just get an economic director hired to get down to business we would be able to stabilize the tax ratio. That in and of itself is the thing that will really begin to make a difference in this town.

  38. 38 jezebel282

    George,

    “HOW IS THE PLAY WRITE DOING?”
    I never knew who the Playwrite was and I never asked.

    Phin,

    “what I am saying is parents that have children in the system that require nursing care to perform in school should be paying for it. Parental responsibility has to come into play some where.”

    Wow! An amazing statement. Don’t you think the child or the parent(s) are paying every single day already? It occurs to me that hardly anybody requests a disability out of choice. Ejection from a school system because you can’t write a check to cover care seems a bit extreme.

    “Seems to me that if EMS can bill, you can bill for nursing care in a school.”
    Maybe you missed it, but if Stratford EMS shows up and you can’t pay they absorb the cost. That’s why they are called “volunteers”.

    “Getting a ride to the ride is absurd, almost as absurd as the taxpayers paying for rides to school.”
    Beats me. I took the subway using my school pass.

    “Life isn’t fair and it sucks that anyone has “special” needs-but it is not the governments job to foot the bill for every misfortune that falls on someone.”
    Too bad, no education for you! We are not talking about stubbing your toe here. We are speaking of permanent disabilities like blindness or muscular dystrophy. I happen to know a graduate of the Stratford Public School System that is currently on the Dean’s list at a local university and will probably graduate Magna Cum Laud with a degree in Chemistry. Would it have been fair to society to deny his intellect and talent to us? Or perhaps Stephen Hawkings’ parents should have just kept him home?

    “Jez- we were talking about education-not seniors…we can debate the medicare carte blanche mentality another day.”
    Are we really? I don’t think so. We are speaking of the least able among us. Democracy is not Biology. It is not survival of the fittest. We do not leave the disabled nor elderly on an iceberg and set them adrift. That is not the society I wish to join.

    “I will disagree with you about Harkins being a mini-Miron. If that were the case he would have fired someone on a daily basis”
    As we know, Miron fired the capable ones and hired those who would genuflect and kiss his ring at every opportunity. Those people are still there and are as incompetent as ever.

    “that Harkins puts a lot of thought into the approaching of things and is realistic about the state of affairs.”
    Is there some sort of proof of that? Can you cite an example (really…any example) of something that has improved? (Contracts to consultants don’t count until something actually happens).

  39. 39 1george1

    Phin,
    You are welcomed for the deserved compliments.

    SPECIAL NEEDS

    MINI MIRON – I know people who know people, who know people
    who carefully crafted MIRON’S ACTIONS and HARKIN’S ACTIONS.

    John is GENTEEL.

    MIRON vs. FEEHAN staged
    MIRON vs. HENRICK staged
    MIRON vs. GAVIN staged
    MIRON vs. CYBART staged
    D MIRON vs. TOMBSTONE likely staged

    Lawyers know they need plausible deniability and I believe do so by
    creating staged events. Plead guilty to sins. Get away with felonyies?

    The “Miron curtain” is a perfect back drop for
    “John Harkins personal style.”

    John’s style and classiness was accentuated by “the controversies”
    and counter points.

    As far as Gavin …..
    He made great fanfare about “this Charter does not work!”
    > Yet no attempt to reopen the Charter, by his Town Council and him.

    He made great fanfare about unavailable FOI documents, and spending
    a personal check of over $ 100 for documents.
    > Yet Gavin made no attempt to do anything with those documents.
    > We know people who know what the documents request were or were
    supposed to be, and if used had potential damage to Miron / Burturlas.

    -

    The KEY PEOPLE REMAIN in PLACE with JOHN HARKINS
    - RICH BURTURLA
    - JOHN BURTURLA
    - SUE COLLIER
    - KELLY / BISHOP
    - FLOREK

    -

    SAME Fire Chief + PW – I choose not to get into except Miron/lAWYERS
    needed to have 2 different Police Chiefs + Fire Chiefs for O. T. / PENSION
    reasons, again for deniability and for concurrence of appearances.

    Liability
    and
    LIEability
    are cornerstones of politics

    -

    New C. A. O. + H. R. are very important for appearances to have NEW, each.

  40. 40 1george1

    SPECIAL NEEDS – I mostly agree with Jeze.

    I got wrapped up in “mini – Miron”
    Classic area we you know & like John and we are going to have honest
    political disagreement. I am OK with John as a person. Political allies
    suck as well as many decisions, in my political opinion.

    SPECIAL NEEDS

    Unfortunately some seriously unhealthy individuals have good / great
    minds, because they are untethered with physical abilities.
    > They are their minds.

    What happens if some handicap children, who have vested interest
    in solving their respective medical problems, come up with cures for
    things like Muscular Dystrophy, Kidney disease, Cancer, Anuarism,
    skeletal / muscular / neurologic problems.

    All of the time, we read of parents getting into specific charities to rid
    the world of a specific problem afflicting their child.

  41. 41 phineast

    Seems I have touched a nerve…..or two…..
    Jez-I am not saying that individuals with handicaps don’t deserve opportunities. At a certain point-like at the moment of birth-a parent has a responsibility to take care of their child-with or without handicaps. If you need a crutch to walk and you don’t have insurance, who’s responsibility is it to pay for it? If you can’t pay for it then what do you do? I am not going Darwinian on you..what I am saying is that if I want to help someone or support a charity it should be my CHOICE. If it is my child that is in need of help it is MY RESPONSIBILITY to figure it out. Not society’s. If you are a left swinger you would believe it is everyone else’s problem except the one who has it….

    George- give me the choreographers name.

  42. 42 phineast

    Jez- while the issue is far more complex than what I presented-it is the basic idea that parents are responsible for the actual care of their children-physical, emotional and behavioral seems to no longer exist….just drop’em at the bus stop and they are someone’s problem and responsibility for the day…that is simply not the case.

  43. 43 jezebel282

    Phin,

    “Seems I have touched a nerve…..or two…..”

    Ya think?

    “If you need a crutch to walk and you don’t have insurance, who’s responsibility is it to pay for it?”
    Well certainly Bob Cratchett bought one own out of his own pocket for Tiny Tim.

    “that parents are responsible for the actual care of their children-physical, emotional and behavioral seems to no longer exist”
    Almost all parents care for their disabled children almost all the time. Just the same as you would want your healthy 5 year old to be safe in Kindergarten, you would want your disabled 12 year old to be safe in Wooster or Flood.

    I am not clear about what you are posing as a solution to issue of educating the disabled or infirm. I am sure the parents have invested financially and emotionally plenty already. Wheelchairs, ramps, aids for the hearing and visually impaired, oxygen concentrators and compressors, toileting aids, and medicines are not cheap. And those are all in addition to regular childcare costs that every parent has.

    Since you obviously believe that not a single tax dollar (of yours) should go to their special needs are you suggesting we give them a refund of their tax contribution and hope they find some better educational system? Why should they pay for healthy children?

  44. 44 phineast

    Did I say a single tax dollar shouldn’t go to the disabled????? No. What I said is that each child should receive the same dollar allotment within the district it equals equality in taxpayer investment in the system. Why exactly should a child with a disability be entitled to $125k a year of taxpayer money but the other kids don’t have that same financial educational opportunity? How is that fair to anyone?

    What I said is the school has a nurse on duty, but if a treatment is given to a student it should be billed in the same manner as EMS billing. The same goes for some of the other services that cross the medical barrier-hospitals pay to have staff on duty all the time but if you use their service you can bet you azz they bill for it. Ask at the hospital billing office. Ask at med now….there are ways to bill for it.

    Every child has a right to be safe at school. The staff also has the right to feel safe in the workplace…..Personally I believe that if we need to have police officers in our schools-every time that officer has to intervene in a “situation” the guilty party should be billed for it..just my opinion. I don’t know if that is allowable under state statute, have to do some checking-but that is one way to knock some sense into the kids with incorrigible behavior they might learn to have some impulse control if they get whacked with a $500 fine payable before they can go back to class. Tough love, ya know?
    We have to find a way to pay for all the freakin’ unfunded mandates-so why not have “user fees” where it is appropriate.
    There are close to 1,000 students in Stratford that have “special needs”. That is a lot of needs-and after talking to some of the local staff about the current situation the ratios of weighted/needy students far out number the needed staff-which creates a huge problem for the non-needy students-they get very limited teaching attention because the teachers are hamstringed by the kids with the problems-especially the ones that act out in the classroom and disrupt the entire learning environment. How is that fair to all the students that go to school prepared and willing to learn everyday but are denied the opportunity due to a “special needs” student(I am not referring to the kid in the wheelchair or a walker..). And how about the kids with the special needs that really work hard and give it their all but the other “needy” kids make it impossible for them to get the needed attention to complete their IEP??
    I was trying to be creative in finding ways to “supplement” some of the craters in the education budget.

    Responsibilities suck, that being said, my responsibilities shouldn’t become your burden any more than yours should become mine….unless I volunteer to accept that burden or choose to help.
    Lucky for you and others many many times I and other of a like mind set step up to the plate and help in what ever way we can. If every adult in town did the same thing, Stratford would be the best place in the country to live. We just don’t want it forced down our throats.

  45. 45 1george1

    George – give me the choreographers name.

    Phin – I get vague intentionally sometimes.
    On this one you got me, my friend?
    1 – context for choreographers (plural)
    2 – name is singular – (no “s”)

    Double confusion?
    Good job!

  46. 46 1george1

    “We just don’t want it forced down our throats.”

    I think Phin typed out of frustration that we get stuck for everything,
    including special needs, which has disproportionate costs, unfortunately.

    Phin has been a pretty sensitive and responsible blogger.
    I also get the sense of a very responsible, giving, and charitible person.

    Everyone has hot buttons and priorities.

    Most people do not like TOP HEAVY ADMINISTRATION, when the real
    issues are OVER PRICED HEALTHCARE – PAY TOO HIGH for TOO MANY,
    and NOT HIGH enough for others (wink to PCS = but I honestly agree)
    and some WASTE and PADDED Budgets and Benefits.

    Where would I want more money?
    Books, Computers, Equipment, legit, Building needs, nutrician, physed,
    extra curricula > Healthy minds / Healthy bodies = create enthusiasm
    and desire to LEARN, rather than be taught!

    Engaged and interested student body should make for students who are
    better behaved and eager to learn. Everyone has a hot button!

  47. 47 1george1

    PORTIA – I have admitted I was fuzzy on SINGLE PAYER as proposed
    by Nader and Obama, which I can relate to in terms of ECONOMY
    TO SCALE.

    Yet couldn’t the FREE MARKET work in hand with (legit) REGULATION,
    where agents / companies would be kinda like manufacturers’ reps?

    Bush / Rockefeller types live to steal from people, based on what I
    see from my cave. They are hardly alone.

    Where have the Military and Intelligence in these national security
    issues?

  48. 48 jezebel282

    Phin,

    “I was trying to be creative in finding ways to “supplement” some of the craters in the education budget.”

    And I was trying to point out that sometimes you need a rifle and other times a shotgun. (Conservatives just love gun analogies).

    But George (surprise!) is more accurate. The single largest problem is a $4.5 million increase in health insurance. You can be sure that Connecticare will be asking for another increase soon.

    There has never been a time that children are not disabled nor come from dysfunctional/abusive/impoverished homes. Every school district in the nation deals with it and Stratford is no exception.

  49. 49 phineast

    George, again thank you and you are correct-I was writing out of frustration. The dollar amount spent is so grossly disproportionate it is nauseating. Just like the admin costs in the BOE-disgusting-and so far not at all worth what it costs. We should have students that are fluent in Chinese in 6th grade for what we spend in admin costs. Health insurance costs??? The original concept of HSA accounts were very good until the insurance for profit industry warped it. Exact same thin happened with health insurance years ago. When Health Net first opened it was started by doctors that were fed up with the system. As soon as it turned to a for profit entity it was corrupted. And here we are….in a really bad place today, as taxpayers.
    Here is a thought……unconstitutional as it is…….maybe if they fired all the over weight, athletically unfit, anyone who smokes, drinks or uses drugs, takes medication for any reason, has ever had any health condition, drives a car, or has a family or is over 30….then maybe we will finally have insurance costs under control. Good grief….keep tracing the issues of this back and it all comes back to greedy lawyers and greedy individuals, lawsuits, INSURANCES, technology costs and human life choices. So we may have no one to teach the kids, mainstream or special, but they WOULD be insured if we did???? The whole situation effin absurd.
    Something has to give-and our wallets can’t give any more.

  50. 50 1george1

    Here is a thought……unconstitutional as it is…….maybe if they fired all the
    over weight,
    athletically unfit,
    anyone who smokes,
    drinks or uses drugs,
    takes medication for any reason,
    has ever had any health condition,
    drives a car,
    or has a family or is over 30….

    then maybe we will finally have insurance costs under control.

    Yo – Phin!
    There was a puddle on my screen, under your post …..
    It was drippin from sarcasm!!
    Another good job.

    To actually have my perspective agreed with by Jeze & Phin.
    I am definitely outta character.
    I have been sick.
    FOOD POISONING week ago Saturday – Public Party.
    Except no one else got sick.
    What do you call Food Poisoning, when you can exclude the Food?

    I was virtually comatose Sunday.
    Could not even drink water.
    Took Monday, Tuesday, and part of Wednesday for my system to rinse.
    10 days later, my system is not right.
    That could be the way the 4 winds blows …?

    Caused an infection.
    Taking a cillin.
    I suspect a possible non discernible bio toxic, eating away inside me,
    thanks to my friends in Law Enforcement protecting and protected
    by a couple of local brothers, whose last name is anagram(U R BRUTAL)?

  51. 51 jezebel282

    Update,

    Following up PCS’s comment that last year Connecticare generated over $1 Billion in revenue, we find that Connecticare was purchased by The Health Insurance Plan of Greater New York (HIP)

    The industry is highly automated and capital-intensive: annual revenue per employee is close to $1 million. (Yes, PER EMPLOYEE).
    http://www.hoovers.com/company/ConnectiCare_Inc/hxcxki-1.html?CM_PLA=Free&CM_ITE=Factsheet&CM_CAT=Google&CM_VEN=Biz_Dev

    Both being privately held, there are no reporting requirements such as 10Q’s or 10K’s. In other words, their costs are whatever they say they are.

  52. 52 1george1

    Is it a front for Rockefeller’s / Bush / Cheney.
    Interesting company that Dan Quayle involved in?
    Note what it owns.

    Yo Sudds – last 4 letters of Quayle’s name is an anagram
    for your favorite university

  53. 53 pcsperling

    Again, the threat to close schools. They are blaming the cost of health care. Have you seen the salaries of the administrators at the BOE? Start cutting those! Gavin Forrester responded to me that the salaries are in line with other com…munities – IT DON’T MAKE IT RIGHT! There are many qualified people in the unemployment line who would be happy to interview for those jobs – and probably at a salary significantly less, especially since it would be so much more than they are making on unemployment. The annual max on unemployment is about $29,000, and that’s with no benefits!

    Stratford Academy could be on the chopping block as well, and it’s the interdistrict magnet school There is a 22 member committee. From what I can tell, there are only three who have children in the Stratford Public Schools! One is a teacher – and she’s the one who recommended closing Stratford Academy and a couple other elementary schools.

    It’s time for an education revolution by the parents! Start screaming loud and clear! Cut administration salaries – make them more “in line” with the times!

    First to go….Irene Cornish! Next, Feeney, Next, Carbone…… Actually, clean ‘em all out! Especially after the latest BOE debacle!

  54. 54 1george1

    Yo Sudds, I sugest we stay on the right side of PCS?

    And PCS wrote she is happier with NON COMMUTE and ABLE to
    have more time with her little lady.

    -

    I do not know if anyone noticed that I have not advocated firing anyone?
    I have suggested moving administration back to teaching and I believe
    many people may welcome lower pay and lower pensions, along with
    higher contributions towards certain benefits.

    They would swallow hard.
    However, it is far better not to go to jail and lose assets, isn’t it.

    Cornish like Harkins only takes orders.
    Left to their own devices and without any political …. pressures, they
    would do far better, if not OK.

    The Library Staff, Town Hall, Town Council, and the political parties,
    including the Burturlas and their I.T. Channel # 79 know that I made
    toast outta MALLOY, at the Public Forum.
    And I LIKE MALLOY!!

    Sue Collier knew exactly what kind of problems I caused because certain
    people POISONED me DEC 4 and I scorched some sacred cows.

    For some reason, I did not appreciate the poisoning, nor the death of my
    AUNT, nor many of the other ATTACKS.

    -

    I made it clear, plain, and evident that there are bigger, badder people
    than those who back BAD MEDICINE ….

    I made it clear the DANGER posed by HIGH OIL / GAS prices to PENSIONS
    and TAXES.

    Today a OILograch mucky MUCK predicted $ 5 a gallon GASOLINE by 2012.

    A CT. POST reported paid $ 3.09 a Gallon for Heating Oil, asking me how
    I paid $ 2.94 a gallon 2 weeks ago and $ 2.46 a gallon late OCT.

    1998 I paid 50, 52, 58, & 60 Cents a gallon.

    If the Stock Market hit under 7,000 – the PENSION PORTFOLIO may hit
    ZERO, after the PENSION SHORT FALL DEPOSIT.

    I and others already have the MILLIMAN ACTUARY REPORT which already
    states how much the JAN 2011 PENSION SHORTFALL deposit is.

    —-

    Harkins did not come across as his nice guy persona related to the
    questions by Step Philips and the senior home owner who owns her
    place free and clear, but lacks income to do ANY REFI and has NO HEAT
    in her HOME ….

    Meanwhile, people see outta control OIL / GAS
    They have JOB pressures.
    They face TOWN TAX INCREASE of another 12 %
    All those NEW PENSIONERS who want to get the PAPER WORK finished.
    People see FORECLOSURES.

    Actually, the reaction of TAX PAYERS might make PCS seem mild.

    I just hope the RIGHT people get blamed ….

    This Town Council is sitting there like patsies ….
    Everyone of them got singed the 13th.
    It is nothing compared to BUDGET HEARINGS or …..

  55. 55 jezebel282

    PCS,

    “First to go….Irene Cornish! Next, Feeney, Next, Carbone…… Actually, clean ‘em all out!”

    Now, now, PCS. Don’t go all Madame Defarge on us. The Town would have to put a new guillotine out for bid, you know.

  56. 56 pcsperling

    Jeze, my dear….. I am a taxpayer and the mother of an elementary school child. I am also the wife of a long time BOE employee (despite the fact that he is a low level employee that none of them really care about). I’ve watched, listened and am just fed up! There is so much wasteful spending over there on East Broadway and if the board of the BOE were smart, they’d start looking into that! It’s f’d up!

    Irene is making lots of money off of us! We, the taxpayers, are the ultimate bosses of these people and we, the taxpayers, should have more to say about what happens than we do! Like I said….tiime for a taxpayer revolution!

  57. 57 pcsperling

    George,

    I am a taxpayer! And, I do think there should be some resignations and firings on East Broadway!

  58. 58 jezebel282

    PCS,

    “Like I said….tiime for a taxpayer revolution!”

    Are you bringing your knitting?
    LOL!

  59. 59 pcsperling

    No, I’m bringing tea……

  60. 60 1george1

    PCS wrote:
    “I am a taxpayer! And, I do think there should be some resignations
    and firings on East Broadway!”

    George:
    My suggested solutions are demotions and pay cuts.
    I wonder how many of the highly paid are politically connected?
    If there was exposure and removal of the “unpaid” volunteers and
    the “unpaid” Town, State, and Federal political Commmittee members,
    then some of the influence causal to problems would be eliminated.
    I have my preferences.
    PCS and others have their preferences.

    There seems to exist within the government a praetorian guard like
    group which protects certain people with Military, FBI / Justice, Judges,
    most Elected, Ranking Appointed, State Police & Prosecutors, and the
    local police, attorneys, and committee people.

    The best place for American Terrorist to hide is within Fatherland Security.

    —-

    I was please PALIN took a swipe at Barbara Bush.
    However, like Stratford politics, there are more pretend fueds than any
    Soap Opera.

    —-

    Passing thoughts

    Board of Ed has east broadway address, but the entrance is on SUTTON PLACE.
    A century ago, they asked BANK ROBBERY why he robbed BANKS?
    SUTTON replied ….”That’s where the MONEY is!”

    Will Rogers was quoted as saying
    “There is no native criminal class, except Congress.”

    I think it can be expanded to the powers within the Political Parties?

    During Iran Contra, Oliver North pointed out the Russian (and Chinese)
    Communist parties got extra perks than the average Russian and that the
    system was Orwellian 1984 Napoleon Pig “some are more equal than others.”

    Now Russia & China were allowed and helped to be the pre-eminent Capitalists,
    not unlike post WW II Germany and Japan …. Where / when is the marshall plan?

  61. 61 pcsperling

    George ~

    I would agree, if demotions and pay cuts would work; however, I doubt any member of the Board of the BOE has the BALLS to make that happen, so my preference would be for a thorough house cleaning. Degrees that are held mean nothing to me when one doesn’t have common sense, and I don’t see a great deal of common sense in most at East Broadway! They take care of their own and screw the rest.

  62. 62 pcsperling

    Yesterday’s BOE “subcommittee” meeting was moved to Center School because of the large public attendance – probably 100 parents, teachers, a couple principals, and the two reporters from the Post and Star. Joe Crudo began by stating that there is …a “misconception” of what the committee is about. They are not “about closing schools” but rather “restructuring” the education system in Stratford. I’m not sure I see the difference when the minutes of their meetings are indicative of closing schools. Norm Aldrich apparently thinks that increasing class sizes is a good thing. Aldrich is like the “godfather” of the RTC and apparently, most do what he says. He clearly has an agenda for Stratford and was a very big Harkins supporter. While I like John Harkins, I truly hope that he’s not a puppet for Aldrich (like Miron was for members of the DTC, including his father). God rest Sylvia Guberman’s soul. I doubt she would like what is happening in Stratford.

    It does not appear that many of the members of the committee have the best interests of the parents and children of Stratford. While a couple members of the committee may have children in the public school system, there is only one member of the public (parent) on the committee – most are political hacks (RTC or DTC members, BOE board members, Town council members) ~ so clearly they have an agenda of their own (pork fat!). I sincerely believe it’s all about their “interests” and forget the taxpayers. Bureaucratic bullshit, plain and simple! If it’s teaching me anything – it’s who not to support (all of ‘em)!

  63. 63 phineast

    PCS-what it should be teaching you is maybe it is time YOU should run for office-

    Sometimes going to the meetings is not enough-people need to step up and do more.
    One of the most obnoxious people I ever had to deal with in the town hall(other than miron-a former town manager named ron owens ) gave me a piece of advice years ago. He said go to every meeting, read every document that is open to the public, know the laws and mandates and have a true and clear understanding of the entire process which includes the budget and pensions. Then you have the right to criticize and make recommendations. As much as I disliked this guy, he was right. So that is exactly what I did. Maybe now it is your turn.
    I know-you have a kid….well so did I…I had a whole pack of them…but I went to every meeting, every hearing all of it. To this day I give between 600-900 hours a year to this community with all the things I work on. I do it to try to keep this community a decent place to raise a family.
    Right now, I am focusing my energy on finding ways to save money in the budget without getting rid of departments.
    If that means consolidating 2 high schools to 1, or 2 junior highs to 1-so be it. That is one way to get rid of administrators and still comply with the state and federal mandates. ……..get rid of half the mandates and then you can get the salaries down….it is rough out there.
    The one thing I do believe is that Stratford is not just a BOE- but in the budget process the BOE takes almost 70% of the money-they will deny it but when you factor in all the costs of public safety and ground and building maintenance that outside of the BOE budget this is what it adds up to. This is one of the reasons why all the buildings in town are falling apart…there is no money left after you create the parental frenzy of fear and the BOE uses it every single time to guard the inflated salaries and dead wood in the system. It happens every time parents hear the word school closing.—by the way, I have kids.
    There are certain departments in town that I consider essential. Police, Fire, Public works and the Board of Ed.
    Those are essential. To follow those are the health dept., library, parks and rec, and the senior center. These are essential to quality of life and keeping the town a desirable place to live.
    There are other departments-but these are what serve the broadest number of people. Do I want to see anything decimated? no. But do we need some clean up especially in the BOE–yes yes yes. Do BOE members have the balls to do it??? With Gavin there we have a small shot at it…that is why things are being reviewed.
    Stratford does not have one public school that fits the Blue Ribbon status. For what we spend every school should….but when you have 6 out of 10 students that are socially or emotionally maladjusted or have learning or physical disabilities there isn’t a hell of a lot left for the average well behaved hard working student.
    Throwing money at these kids hasn’t helped them. But maybe making the parents of bad behaved kids get a “fine”…it would make a statement.
    A friend of mine has a child in high school(this is out of state) and the town needed a way to boost the tax dollars to help fund education. There was a law on the books that in that community that for using obscenities there is a $50 fine. With in 6 months of enforcement, they had collected enough money to fund 3 teacher positions. Amazing… a public curse jar….in Stratford, Jim Miron would have had to pay enough fines for Irene’s salary…and that would have been just at the council meetings!
    Just imagine if Stratford had a way to do something like that. Clean up the town and do some good with the money at the same time.

    So since the administrators run the BOE and it is not bloody likely they are giving anything back, show me some creative solutions……

  64. 64 1george1

    Phin,

    Welcome back.

    One of the BEST and MOST APPROPRIATE POSTS I have READ on the BLOG.

    That is despite the fact that I disagree with several of your opinions about
    some personnel and Departments.

    - It is truly counter intuitive to believe that political party bosses and under
    lings are intent on destroying the system to force the changes they planned
    and want implemented …..
    Airport
    AVCO SAEP
    Shakespeare
    I – 95
    Raymark

    The Mironistas informed me and others about Judith Terrace.

    Brittany Lyte front page story blew up the issue with Kim Meuse hitting
    the nail on the head about that issue!
    (and every other town issue!)

    I like Jim Connor as a person.

    I do not like him, the mayor, and the council costing you, other tax payers,
    and me, more money for FOP.

    Why should Health Care cost you $ 21,300 per family plan, when more than
    1/2 of Stratford does not have Health Insurance?

    Why should 4 and soon 4 1/2 Mils go to only 600 people for annual pensions
    now averaging $ 60,000 + CASH OUTS + HEALTHCARE + 401 + ANNUITIES?

    If everything was FULLY FUNDED …. I do not care what anyone gets!

    When 40 % of our TAXES are WASTED, misprioritized, improperly managed,
    and/or out right stolen ….. even the COPS and FIRE Department have
    become increasingly embarassed about being ENTRAPPED to protect the
    people they know are BUMS!

  65. 65 1george1

    PHIN: “PCS-what it should be teaching you is maybe it is time YOU
    should run for office-”

    GEORGE: PHIN – I ran for MAYOR to be a WING MAN for anyone
    to step up who I would be comfortable supporting.
    AS NUTTY AS MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE MY CONSPIRACY THEORIES …..
    I might be the MOST QUALIFIED person in Stratford to deliver us from evil!

    PHIN: “Sometimes going to the meetings is not enough-people need
    to step up and do more.”

    One of the most obnoxious people I ever had to deal with in the
    town hall(other than miron-a former town manager named ron owens )
    gave me a piece of advice years ago.

    He said go to every meeting,
    read every document that is open to the public,
    know the laws and
    mandates and
    have a true and clear understanding of the entire process
    which includes the budget and pensions.

    Then you have the right to criticize and make recommendations.
    As much as I disliked this guy, he was right.
    So that is exactly what I did.
    Maybe now it is your turn.”

    -

    GEORGE: GAVIN + MALLOY + LAWYERS + Certain TOWN OFFICIALS are
    smarter and more capable than I am.

    HOWEVER, I am more capable or more interested in honest and good
    government with successful finances than most of the people who have
    been on Town Councils, Education, Zoning, and various departments!

    I would gladly support someone I believed in.

    Stratford needs 23 people with chatzputz (spelling) and integrity who do
    not have dust on their knees and care about honest and good government,
    even if every one of them had a different vision for the future!

    If, if, if i am alive for the NEXT Mayoral run, I will NOT only do a political
    SEARCH and DESTROY against every MAYORAL Candidate but would actively
    lay foundation to SHAME any PARTY PROXY for any political election.

    I know they made attempts on my life with the TIRE SLASH and the POISONING.

    I absolutely believe there are TRAITORS and CRIMINALS within POLICE / FBI /
    STATE POLICE, JUDGES, US / State’s Attorneys, and ELECTED / APPOINTED.

    I dealt with them FACE to FACE, and their SURROGATES!

    TRAITORS and CRIMINALS do NOT deserve TAX PAYER remunification!

    God Bless America .. with LIBERTY and JUSTICE for ALL
    not just the political parties and their low life q u i z l i n g s !*

    Sympathizers, like with the N A Z I s!

  66. 66 pcsperling

    Phin ~ thank you for your comment, I will digest and take under advisement. It’s not something that I haven’t thought about at all. I just need to balance my time.

  67. 67 sudds

    “There was a law on the books that in that community that for using obscenities there is a $50 fine.”

    What the _______ kind of stupid _______ _______ is that??? What sort of _______ decides to balance their _______ budget on the _______- _______ backs of their _______ students??? What a bunch of _______!!!

    1) who do I make the check out to???
    2) don’t even give me that look… you all filled in those blanks just fine on your own… didn’t ya!?!?!? :razz:

  68. 68 sudds

    “PCS-what it should be teaching you is maybe it is time YOU should run for office-”

    Talk about increasing attendance at meetings!!! :grin:

    George — reserve me a space in the front row with ya buddy!!!

  69. 69 1george1

    Sudds,

    I would agree PCS has the best lookin avatar, and then some.

    Sudds I eat beans before town council meetings …
    I get elbow room! ;)

    PCS – I suspect we would disagree on some issues, but I have healthy
    respect for
    1 – diversity of issues
    2 – people who do their homework.
    3 – people who don’t like the Mirons / Burturlas / Aldrich crew.

    I would love to have 23 truly independent people running for all
    of the town elected office, who do not have
    1 – dust on their knees,
    2 – brown noses
    3 – dependency on government paycheck, unless they can’t be bought

  70. 70 pcsperling

    George ~

    You are correct, we would disagree on some issues.

    I am really sick of the game playing with the BOE, each and every year. I am fully aware of the financial crisis our country is in. My household, along with many others, has been in it. But, I cut from myself and my husband, before I take from my daughter. Her future is much too important.

    Each and every year, the BOE and Town plays the same game – let’s pit the parents against the seniors! It’s getting old. I know many people who work for the BOE. I herar stories about financial waste there. I know many people who have worked on the Town side as well, and have outsiders who have worked with the Town. They ALL spend our money like it’s falling off of a money tree! Until a forensic audit is done, on both sides, we won’t know just how much is wasted!

    What the administration at the BOE does is make sure they keep for themselves – why would they want to go hungry – and take from the children and low level employees. Maybe they should each spend a week and be an “undercover boss” and each one of them perform the duties of the CIAs, custodians, school secretaries, teachers, lunch aides, etc. Then, they’ll find out what it’s like to really work for the money you make! Maybe Irene should be a CIA or custodian for a day, or serve lunch, as should each department head. Teacher’s jobs don’t end when they walk out of the school. They go home, grade papers, make lesson plans, etc. And if they are not doing that – they are out purchasing supplies for their classrooms (with their own money). There is so much that is taken for granted with the teachers!

    When Norm Aldrich was a student, special needs children were not mainstreamed into the classrooms. Now they are. If you increase the class sizes, each student will suffer – including the special needs children. What is it that they don’t understand??????

  71. 71 1george1

    PCS,

    I also wrote or implied that we would often agree.

    It seems the women in Stratford are smarter and have more ba**s
    than the men!
    PCS
    SYL
    DIANE BUDA
    ELEANOR BURKE
    MARCIA STEWART

    I love the people who are willing to kick butt and name names.

    Stratford may have 50,000 people, but it has a small town heart.
    Many people went to school here and never moved away or came
    back after moving away.

    The C.R.E.E.P. Country Club cronies: Darth; B UTTER NUTS; CABAL;
    etc. have stepped on a lot of people and hurt too many people to
    continue to get away with their omerta and blue wall.

    Too many people know about skeletons and where they are buried.

    Too many people are being backed into the wall and jacked up.

    UNTIL MORE PEOPLE WRITE like PCS, BLUMSTEIN, SYL, and others, and
    RUN for political office, they will continue to be slaves and cowards!

    Land of the Free and Home of the BRAVE?
    Most of the intelligent ones moved outta town…..
    Now they are COWARD BEES and FIELD or HOUSE SLAVE!

    The good thing about the collapse of property values ….?
    People have 2 choices:
    > Stay silent and pay ever rising taxes
    > Become civicly active!
    > I have worked to prevent the 800 pound gorilla lurking = violence!

  72. 72 1george1

    JUST POSTED on YAHOO – New Haven Register:

    HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — A state board charged with designing
    a new state health insurance program has submitted its final
    report to the Connecticut General Assembly.

    The SustiNet Board of Directors, which is co-chaired by Comptroller
    Kevin Lembo, delivered the report on Friday. It will be up to the
    legislature and governor to decide whether to continue with the recommendations.

    (Have the SOLUTION – Break the SYSTEM – Cause CLAMOR for CHANGE
    - IMPLEMENT the SOLUTION – - the S. O. P.)

    Lembo says the proposed SustiNet system, which would initially
    pool everyone from state employees and retirees to the uninsured
    and needy into a single system, could potentially save the state
    $226 million to $277 million a year.

    (ECONOMY TO SCALE)

    Eventually municipalities, private employers and individuals would
    be allowed to enroll.

    (CONVENIENT TIMING? END KICK BACK to COUNTRY CLUB CRONIES?)

    A quasi-governmental agency would oversee the system.

    (DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR – JOBS for PARTY HACKS)

  73. 73 pcsperling

    Although I already know the answer to this question…. when did your economic crisis begin?

    I find it almost laughable that the Board of the BOE, despite knowing the crisis were were in, at the June 2010, meeting, approved raises for “all non-union” employees:

    “Non-Union Salary Increases effective July 1, 2010 – Personnel Committee
    At its meeting of June 23, 2010, the Personnel Committee reviewed and discussed proposed salary increases for non-union personnel which would become effective July 1, 2010. Ms. Collier made a motion that the Stratford Board of Education approve the non-union staff raises and insurance co-pays; seconded by Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Lindberg.”

    The Long Range Facilities Planning Committee was being formed shortly thereafter, but it was held up due to the resignation of Ben Branyan.

    Call me crazy, but giving raises and then taking about school closings? It’s time that those raises are called back – time for the “non-union personnel” to take a pay cut of 5% (at least)…….. Union employees got 0% for the last couple years and they’re making a great deal less than the “non-union personnel.”

    Pull back 5% (which equates to their the salary increases for the last two years and perhaps part of their “merit raises.”

    I know that Board BOE members read this blog…..so come on, get real!

    The next meeting of the LRFPC is Tuesday, 6:00 p.m. This time, at Stratford High School. If you are a parent of a school-aged child, I urge you to attend!

  74. 74 1george1

    Although I already know the answer to this question….
    when did your economic crisis begin?

    I believe the answer to the genesis of the economic crisis is
    1987 election of Richard Burturla to the Chairmanship of the
    Stratford Town Council, leading to the mini-Budget, which led
    to the 1991 Referendums.

  75. 75 pcsperling

    George ~

    My point was that the recession began long before these raises were approved for non-union personnel. There were lay-offs. Had the administration not taken raises, they could’ve probably saved some jobs. And now, I have no doubt – despite what Gavin might say – that the LRFPC has their game plan set. They will go forward with the public forum in March to appease all of the parents.

    The BOE pits the parents against the seniors every year. It’s their same cock n’ bull story, but then, in June, raises are approved for the non-union personnel, merit increases, etc. Butts are kissed!

    They can cut 5% off the top of everyone’s salaries. There are so many out there who have had to make due with less in their bank accounts and wallets and it’s about time it hits home for them. Stop the BS, because that’s all it is – BS!

  76. 76 1george1

    PCS -

    Before 2011 retirements, 4 Mils goes to 600 Defined Benefit Pensioners.

    PCS, the BoE does not break down the benefits
    However, if you divide the total cost of Town and BoE Health care you
    can figure out how much the Health Benefits of all of the people with
    Health Care cost Tax payers.

    I favor decent Health Care, with a fair employee payment instead of 13 %.
    and far below a $ 22,000 Gross cost – 13 % + $ 3,000 deductable

    I estimate 2 Mils, easily, are wasteful Health Care cost.

    That is (now) 6 Mils I believe were caused by decisions from 1987.
    Both are costs built up, but the Grand List was lower, so the Mil Rate
    was worth about $ 3 Million when Barnhart was Manager

    The total 1999 Budget was about $ 104 Million, now it is about $ 185 M

    almost 100 % of the highest Pensioners were hired just before a certain
    person retired in 1985.

    The Mini Budget was 1989 under Dick Burturla.

    Had the 1991 Referendums been followed instead of circumvented by
    Bonding, Negotiated Pay increases, Step Increases, C.O.L.A., expenses,
    and Benefits .. and had there NOT been steered Economics to try to
    force Stratford and Bridgeport into Regionalism (THE PLAN=ZIP CODES)
    by driving Values down and Taxes up, Stratford would be better off.

    I swore to uphold the Constitution and expose corruption.

    It is amazing how many people in government place their patrons and
    self interest above their fiduciary legal duty. Sad.

    AVCO SAEP is a Mil per year.

  77. 77 phineast

    Pat, Maybe it is time the BOE members feel the verbal fire and the verbal ire of the people. Go to the meetings an SPEAK loudly when allowed and write letters. If they are inundated with irate people both parents and non-parents MAYBE they will get the message. NO salary increases for ANYONE-NO BONUSES either!!! The same pressure should go to the town council about no giving the BOE one one penny. ZERO increase and maybe a big cut-to sen a loud message that their spending habit will not be tolerated and we will no longer tolerate the administration USING the students to manipulate public opinion. Stratford should take a page from NJ Governor Christie’s book: a 10% pay cut for all the big whigs in town would work for starters and make them kick in an additional 20% for health care bene’s. It has to start at the top before it can trickle down. There is no such thing as trickle up economics as we all know! All the Joe Q citizens in town who pay their taxes on time just can’t handle the burden of increases any longer. I don’t want anyone in town to loose their job, that being said, I can’t justify some of the outrageous salaries at the BOE in management-because there are too many managers and for the most part they only work 8 and !/2 months a year. I don’t care what other communities are doing, Stratford can attract better managers at less pay-people need jobs-and what we have over in the BOE at the moment is nothing to be writing home about.
    There should be big cuts this year not big increases on both sides of the budget. Personally I believe the Council should only approve a budget of $1.00 for the BOE and make them present receipts for everything, and I mean everything. It should be the same for every department in town. It is the only way to get a real handle on the padding that is built in and there is NO DOUBT that it is there. Yes it would be a real PITA for the council to have to constantly approve everything- but how else are you going to get a handle on things????? Pat you should attend the workshops for both the BOE and the town-it will shock you as to how much the finance dept doesn’t know.

  78. 78 phineast

    BTW- ask all the real estate agents in town why the houses aren’t selling…..because other communities (like Milford) offer what Stratford does at a lesser rate….young people can’t afford to spend $6k a year on a house with a lot the size of a postage stamp when they can get the same or more else where with the same services and better schools.

  79. 79 jezebel282

    PCS,

    “They can cut 5% off the top of everyone’s salaries.”

    I agree….partially. As with all of the other problems in this Town, the solution is usually not found in dynamiting the place. There are many employees within the BOE system that are paid so little they simply could not afford to sustain a paycut.

  80. 80 pcsperling

    Jeze ~

    To clarify, my “everyone” meant the non-union personnel that continue to be given annual salary increases and bonuses. It certainly does not include those, who for the past few years have gotten 0% increases!

    Trust me, I know those that are paid next to nothing and do the most for the Town.

    Irene made a comment to someone that custodians make a lot of money. I guess those who work in schools that have before and after school programs, and work from 6 to 6 (or later) make more money than most, but they are working their butts off for that money. Maybe Irene should trade jobs with them for a week (like undercover boss).

    I also know that the union secretaries in the schools and BOE make next to nothing too. I interviewed for a couple positions. I think Vince Carbone called me in just to pacify me, nothing more.

    We need Irene to go, she’ll take her “executive assistant” with her, and then the next can clean house, just like Irene did after Ray O’Connell. At least Ray was better at showing appreciation to ALL employees, rather than just the handful that she does.

  81. 81 1george1

    I thought Ray was an empire building blatherskite.

    To his credit, he assisted the WW II Memorial by opening the
    schools’ teachers and children to Bob Mastroni (Bunnell) merry
    band of devoted committee members.

    Further he helped make gym available and other ways to the
    minority Mack-Butler charity basketball games.

    I am sure he did other good things too.

    However, the mentality in BoE and Town was like I overheard union
    people say “Management was us to get the pay and benefits, because
    anything we get, they have to get and BETTER.”

    Far too many management under Ray + Irene.
    Pay is far too high.
    I wonder how it is possible the Burturla & Berchem are able to recruit
    so many BoE, Towns, Housing, and Parking among other clients? ;)

    -

    I thought Irene started great!

    Phased out the 3 assistant superintendents to ZERO.

    The SAVED money went towards KIDS.

    Excellent nutrician program.

    Other good things.

    -

    There is a thresh hold where working people and retirees absolutely
    need, not just to survive, but to pay their needs.

    (PCS point about underpaid blue collar laborers.)

    PORTIA’S hero MILTON FRIEDMAN called it “permanent income hypothesis.”

    Further “consumption smoothing” is another concept which was sabotaged
    by PETROTAX and MUNICIPAL NOTTINGHAMITIS, which the LAFFER CURVE and
    Ricardian equivalence proposition are mooted by political patronage, country
    club cronyism, and insider trading macro monopolies.

    From Keynes to Ricardo to Marx to Adam Smith, economic theory maximization
    is based on unrigged markets. Marx looked past the visible and invisible and he
    saw the political socio-economic Machiavellian- Aristotole realities.

    Martin Luther King Jr. speach “I have been to the Mountaintop spoke of the
    need for economic viability, not just for black America, but for the whole of
    the American economy. Phin and I have both used “trickle up.”

    Conservative Republican used the phrase “a rising tide raises all boats.”

    If social security recipients and low / fixed income, middle class had more to
    spend, they could cover their needs and spend some disposable income and
    they could save that which they did not have to spend, nor choose not to
    spend, thus reifying the MILTON FRIEDMAN “permanent income hypothesis.”

    -

    SUMMARY:
    Cut over priced salaries of Administration to under $ 100,000 and teachers
    to about $ 75,000.
    Raise lower income pay, which all legit unions want narrow band of pay so
    people can not be pit against each other.
    Cap Pensions at $ 26,000 retroactively = 30 year Sikorsky retirees.
    Recover $ 800,000,000 from Berchem, Dodd, Lieberman, DNC, RTC, state, feds.
    Raise minimum wage & social security.
    Invest in infrastructure, brownfields, terraforming, desalinization, healthcare,
    safe electromagnetic vehicles and homes, etc.
    Certain spending is healthy. Bribery is not healthy.

  82. 82 1george1

    PCS post of Jan 16

    The next meeting of the LRFPC is Tuesday, 6:00 p.m.
    This time, at Stratford High School.
    If you are a parent of a school-aged child, I urge you to attend!

    —- OR

    A Tax Payer who cares about taxes, fairness, workers, parents,
    non parents, businesses, and children.

  83. 83 1george1

    postponed meeting until JAN 31 – NOT a public hearing!

  84. 84 pcsperling

    George ~

    I’m sure there is no public forum, but the public can attend. The meeting today was supposed to be at Stratford High. We are all well aware that we would not be able to speak, but how we feel would show in the numbers who attend this and other meetings, despite the fact that we can’t speak.

  85. 85 pcsperling

    Also ~ to clarify. Upon further research, the recession officially began in December 2007!

  86. 86 1george1

    PCS -
    1) I was unaware there was no Public Forum.

    but the public can attend?

    Pardon my lack of enthusiams, but …..
    WHOOPTEEEDOOOO?

    The same morons with self serving agendas which caused problems
    are going to go over the same sets of ideas from the same leaders
    and team leaders or consultants hired by the people with the self
    service agenda?

    The QUOTE Al Gore stole from EINSTEIN applies here:

    If you always do,
    what you always did,
    and expect a different result,
    that is the definition of insanity!

    Where is PORTIA when I need HER / HIM?

    Lady Justice Statue wears a blindfold, yet both hands are free.
    Yes, one hand holds a scale.
    Yes, one hand holds a swords / sheild.

    However, nothing precludes a live person in that circumstance from
    dropping either or both, and untying the Blindfold.

    Stratford Town Council and Bored of EdjumaKation want to limit input
    from the Tax Payers, maybe they should create a statute with a GAG?

    Regardless of when the “recession officially began”
    Jan 17, 1961 was Eisenhower’s Military Complex speach / warning of internal
    usurpation….. then follow the money to OIL / GAS / CRIME / WARS / DRUGS.

    12- 1987 was when COLD WAR ended and should have been end of HI STORY
    and CRIME and WARS.

    Dick Burturla became Town Council Chairman, leading to 1989 mini Budget,
    which led to Nov 1991 Referendums, as the political parties were steering
    extra pensions and money to certain people (police etc)

    This town’s political core are not rocket scientists and have no clue related
    to micro and macro economics.

    At least when Ray Voccola was actively involved, people were a lot less greedy.

    -

    Certain levels of corruption are always expected and in some cases cost
    effective to cause motive toward beneficial civic activities.

  87. 87 pcsperling

    George:

    “Regardless of when the ‘recession officially began’”

    It is important to note when the recession began because, as I review all of the minutes from the various committees, there are things that are noteworthy. For example, the Personnel Committee, in June 2008, did as follows:

    “Non Union Staff Raises
    Mr. Cody moved to send to the full Board with a favorable recommendation to approve raises for the non-union staff to range from 0% to 5% at the discretion of the Superintendent (at an aggregate of 3%); and to raise the current level of insurance co-payments for non-union employees by 1%; seconded by Mr. Dimenno and passed unanimously.”

    In June 2009:

    “Non-Union Employees Salaries and Insurance Co-pay
    Mr. Carbone informed the committee that the only non-union employee not listed on the spreadsheet attached to the agenda is Superintendent Cornish. He explained that salaries and insurance co-pay for FY 09-10 are the same as FY 08-09. There are no changes. Mr. Kennedy motioned to forward the proposed Non-Union Employees Salaries and Insurance Co-pay to the full Board for approval; seconded by Mr. Cody, and carried.
    Mr. Kennedy stated that he was listed on the May 20, 2009 minutes as absent, when he was in fact in attendance. Mrs. Lycoudes said she would make that correction.
    Mr. Kennedy thanked the non-union employees for making concessions to this year’s budget. He asked if a thank you could go out to everyone who made concessions. Superintendent Cornish said she would draft a thank you note.”

    In June 2010:

    “A motion was made by Mr. Lindberg to forward the proposed salaries/insurance co-pays for non-union employees to the full Board with a favorable recommendation; seconded by Mr. Forrester, and carried unanimously.”

    Despite the fact that there were no raises in 2009, we were and are still in the recession which began in 2007. Unions personnel took 0%; however, non-union still got salary increases effective July 1, 2008, and July 1, 2010. I’m sorry, but when each and every year you threaten school closures, they lay off teachers, but keep the administration in tact?????

    Ben Branyan knew full well what he was doing with the insurance and so did Irene Cornish. They knew the premiums were set for two years and then would increase in the third. This was dumped on all other employees, and they knew it would happen. They continued to like their pockets with raises and the like, knowing full well that the storm was going to hit big. They care about no one but themselves.

    They’ve got the Board members right in their pockets. My respect has seriously diminished for most of them. Those I thought had honesty and integrity, are full of crap! Just more blow-hards for the administration. Buttering their bread instead of working for the taxpayers and citizens of Stratford.

    Time for Cornish to go and take all the rest with her!

  88. 88 1george1

    PCS,

    I thought Irene was huge improvement over O’Connell for first couple
    years, but then the same empire building took place of political people.

    An experienced political person told me the BoE is NOT about Educating
    children, but about jobs for politically connected people.

    Unfortunately I agree with this PCS quote:
    “They’ve got the Board members right in their pockets.
    y respect has seriously diminished for most of them.
    Those I thought had honesty and integrity, are full of crap!
    Just more blow-hards for the administration.
    Buttering their bread instead of working for the
    taxpayers and citizens of Stratford.”


    I thought Kennedy and Collier would be different than what they are.
    Sue Collier (finance) – has been a huge disappointment as I liked Sue!
    Lindberg has always been excessively pro-BoE.
    Gavin is brilliant and a massive disappointment.
    Crudo outside of politics, is a GREAT GUY – but he is in WAY over his
    head, related to political decision on Council & BoE!

    I do not know the other BoE members of top of my head.

    =====

    When the police met Town Council a few years ago, they cheered what
    I had to say related to the Attorney compensation and pay of the rank
    Police.
    They lower paid people need increased pay more than higher rank,
    because of COSTS of LIVING.

    I have NO PROBLEM with LEGITIMATE O.T.

    There is something wrong when FIRE DEPT O.T. will likely pass $ 2 million
    and POLICE DEPT O.T. will likely pass $ 1+ million.

    Lower paid administrative staff and custodial do not see BIG BUCKS.
    Try finding full staff in Town Hall on a Friday afternoon, except JAN
    or JULY? > 37 1/2 HOUR WORK WEEK?

    TEACHERS 186 DAYS > 25 HOURS in CLASS – 65 % TOP PAY $ 89 – $ 94,000

    Imbro 20 hour work week x 40 weeks for $ 35,000 annual

    —-

    PCS – I support a better deal for some Town workers.

    Yet even then – compare what YOU and all the rest of Government
    employed families have to the reality

    Majority of Stratford residents
    Homes value to mortgage = underwater
    NO HEALTH CARE
    NO RETIREMENT PACKAGE
    NO BENEFITS
    INDIVIDUALS income at 70 % of government pay.
    (NOTE: Paying NO Stratford property tax)
    > Branyan: 70 % of Board of Ed, don’t live in Stratford.
    > Estimated OVER 50 % Town employees don’t live in Stratford.

    —-

    Teachers and management compare themselves to Westport / gold coast
    professionals who commute and make crazy money.

    Reality?

    Many (not all) are overpaid with GROSSLY overcompensated Benefits.

    —-

    I talked to individual well connected to the Mayor and others.
    He was very surprized when I explained Mayor’s benefit package.
    I thought it is a minimum 80 % of Mayor’s base pay?

    260 workdays of 5 days a week x 52 weeks = 260
    - 13 Holidays
    - 10 Personal days
    - 20 Vacation
    - 15 sick days

    58 total PAID days off from maximum 260 work days = 202 workdays
    He is off 22 % of the year = value on $ 90,000 salary = $ 19,800

    Medical Benefits – value estimated $ 20,000 tax payer cost

    PLUS

    ?x Professional Development days
    3 – 14 Bereavement days – I hope NONE are needed

    Short term disability = 66 % of Salary and in Defined Benefit Plan
    Long term Disability = 66 % and in Defined Benefit Plan

    RETIREMENT = Eligible for Defined Benefit and 457 (matching) plan

    $ 50,000 life insurance = I think too low – wife + 2 young children

    PLUS

    TOWN VEHICLE

    PLUS

    FUNCTION EXPENSE ACCOUNT – upto $ 7,500

    -

    UNMENTIONED in BENEFIT PACKAGE as an EMPLOYEE:

    UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE, paid to the State of CT.
    Matching: F.I.C.A. + MEDICAID + Social Security + MEDICAID

    ——

    As noted above – I estimate the Mayor’s Benefit package exceeds
    80 % of his base pay.

    I suggested to this well connected individuals when you add the
    retirements of Teachers/Education to Police & Fire Pensions,
    it is likely their benefit packages exceed 120% of Base Pay.
    What business pays more than 40 % of Base Pay for benefit packages?

    Independent contractors and Business owners have zero government
    assured and (fully or partial) paid Benefit Packages.

    NOW! What would be the MOTIVE for ELECTED PEOPLE on TOWN COUNCILS
    and BOARDS of EDUCATION and MANAGERS and LAWYERS to continually
    NEGOTIATE GIVE AWAY PUBLIC FUNDS to certain workers, managers, hired
    consultants, contractors, bidders, change orders, awards?

    NOW what would be the MOTIVE for these same Town Political Committee
    members to INTENTIONALLY fail to succeed with AVCO, SHAKESPEARE,
    RAYMARK and ECONOMIC development, driving property values DOWN and
    driving property taxes UP?

    Could there be a plan to regionalize Stratford, with a Bridgeport
    (political) and Hartford take over?

    Who represents Stratford businesses and residents?

    Are we compensating the political saboteurs, who have been destroying
    Stratford since 1987?

  89. 89 pcsperling

    George ~

    I have been informed that there is a misconception, as follows: the town does not pay any of the teacher’s retirements. The teachers pay into their own fund through the state without any burden to the town!!

    Just wanted to pass that along to you.

  90. 90 phineast

    PCS- that is an incomplete version, while it may be true that it is not a burden to the town as a line item it IS a burden to every single person who pays taxes in the state. It is a burden that is negotiated.
    The teachers retirement fund is NOT 100% self funded. It is also taxpayer funded. Just like municipal retirees who pay into a fund and the town is expected to put in their portion that was fairly negotiated by contract and accepted by both sides. Most of these people on both sides have worked long and hard to get to retirement- and you know better than most first hand the bull sh..that the employees and teachers deal with day in and day out-administratively, politically and with parents.
    George you are under a gross misconception of entitlement. If you CHOOSE to work in a field that only has to actually work 8 &1/2 months has great pay, full benes and pension for 35 years and have the education to do so, you get your retirement package with NO social security.
    If you choose to be self employed or work in a position that does NOT offer those perks it is nobody’s fault but your own. This is the land of “equal” opportunity for the most part(unless you are a white male these days) and if you choose to learn, have the qualifications and the skills to get the job that has the perks so be it. If not, you can always attempt to reinvent yourself and get that job. BUT there ARE people that just CAN’T do that type of work. You have to deal with the cards that are dealt or work to make the changes to get a better hand.
    If you want the benefits to change start working on the people that are SUPPOSED to REPRESENT YOU.
    It starts with a whisper……

  91. 91 phineast

    George-BTW- Branyon does live in Stratford, as do many of the people that you referred to. A little research will show that to you. Not all but several do-for how long? who knows but at the moment they do.

  92. 92 pcsperling

    Phin ~

    Thank you for the clarification.

    I’ve also got to say something about the teachers. While they only work a school year, their days do not end when they exit the school building. They continue to do things like grade papers, lesson plans, etc. Also, because so much that is needed in the classrooms is not funded by the BOE, they use their own money to purchase supplies. Parents do the same thing – many who have children in the system donate their time, purchase supplies, and are active in the PTSA and fundraising efforts to aid in the purchase of needed items. The PTSA at Stratford Academy was able to raise money for many things, e.g., smartboards, folding tables, etc. These were from funds they raised, not from the BOE!

    George criticizes a great deal about the teachers salaries; however, they continue their education to educate our children better. I do criticize the numbers of administrators at each of the schools and the top heavy administration. They’ll get rid of teachers and below before they cut off any of their own limbs!

  93. 93 phineast

    PCS- you are welcome.
    I understand how you feel about the “time” the teachers spend….but let me share something with you. Teaching is not the only profession that takes work home with them in one form or another and are not compensated for it, supposedly. Actually they are compensated very very well both with salary, benes and time off.
    They chose the profession so they shouldn’t be complaining too loudly, as the pendulum is about to swing in the opposite direction for them. When I was a kid teachers actually were underpaid but had job stability. I realize there is a lot of red tape attached these days, but honestly in many cases, I’d take the teacher with the 4 year degree over the more highly pedigreed one-they are more motivated and in many cases have a better handle on what goes on in their classroom than the one with the pedigree up the wazoo that is so busy looking at the forest they can’t see the trees that make it up. I totally agree with you about the administrators. Put them back in the classrooms, that is where they are needed.
    I have pondered what would happen, if the towns stopped taking money from the state and feds for schools…..In my opinion it would get RID of all the mandates-or at least most of them- which would mean the operational costs would go down. It seems you would finally be able to get down to the real business of teaching with actual student mastery. What a concept!!!!

  94. 94 phineast

    PCS- one final thought…..how would you feel about the schools being privatized???
    If the Catholic schools can educate students for under $5k pp it seems to me that maybe we should look into privatizing the single biggest money sucker in the town budget. Imagine if the costs per pupil were cut in half and each student rec’d a voucher for a tuition value of $5k(not cash-able checks-but a tuition pay out) it would literally standardize education for everyone INCLUDING special needs. Anything over the $5k would be parental responsibility. What a concept! People say it won’t work…but I’d be betting that it would.
    Taxes would go down, pension and debt relief would be met and it would restore some balance in the budget process. St. Mark’s and CHristian Heritage would be bursting at the seams…….it might even make George happy…….. :p

  95. 95 1george1

    I have been informed that there is a misconception, as follows:
    the town does not pay any of the teacher’s retirements.
    The teachers pay into their own fund through the state
    without any burden to the town!!

    Just wanted to pass that along to you.

    ===============================================================
    THANKS PCS. However, there is a BURDON to the STATE, which
    contributes about 25 % of the annual BoE Budget.

    Further, according to Miron in 2009, the UNFUNDED MANDATES
    reached $ 83,000,000 or about 1/2 the CAPITAL DEBT prior to
    MIRON taking officeor about 1/2 of Miron’s first Budget (Feehan).

    PCS what you do NOT indicate is IF the TEACHERS have a DEFINED
    CONTRIBUTION or DEFINED BENEFIT or what percent they pay into
    the PENSION PLAN?

    WHY would that matter?

    How long could a PENSION sustain itself if during 27 years employed,
    a teacher had $ 125,000 contributed to the PENSION, but then took
    out $ 35,000 CASH OUT for unused Holidays, vacation, and sick 2 years,
    making the NET LIFETIME CONTRIBUTION to be $90,000.

    Those are the approximate numbers of the Police Captain who was the
    focus of the Town Council Financial Advisory Commission, a police union
    grievance, and was (apparently) NOT a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION?

    For live, EVERY YEAR, his DEFINED BENEFIT PENSION is $ 134,000

    —-

    RHETTORICAL

    How sustainable are PENSIONS when employee contributes $90,000 net
    LIFETIME
    and withdraws PENSIONS ANNUALLY $ 134,300 or so?

    —–

    This is an exaggerated example of the TEACHER, POLICE, FIRE, and others.

    Some of that money could be used for children, seniors, veterans, families,
    needy people, lower taxes, or lower paid employees! :(

  96. 96 jezebel282

    Phin,

    “it seems to me that maybe we should look into privatizing the single biggest money sucker in the town budget.”

    Great idea! Except for the basic requirement to accept all children that live in Stratford, including the disabled and non-English speaking ones, ones without parents, ones with emotional issues and acting out behavior, meeting fed & state requirements (who needs credentialed schools?), feeding them and oh…getting them to school. Not to mention with 9% unemployment, the limits of what a $5K voucher will buy you.

    PCS,

    We go back to a nearly 60% increase in health insurance over which no employee had any degree of control. And another large increase this year. Whatever the responsibility for this disaster, there will be cuts. Connecticare will announce another increase in profitability, taxpayers will pay more and teachers and students will have less to work with and more to do. I believe the political term for this is “sucks”. The Council will do what they do, complain about the BOE budget while squandering millions on unnecessary overtime, consultants, legal billings, little pet district projects and their own incompetent decisions. Mayor Harkins will claim to make the “tough decisions” i.e., whatever the RTC tells him to decide.

  97. 97 1george1

    I addressed PCS, before reading PHIN who did an excellent job
    pointing out issues similar to what I wrote.

    -

    Both PCS + PHIN make excellent points.

    I suspect NEITHER would disagree the SYSTEM is set up to benefit those
    who get inside the system syphoning whatever they can from others.

    PCS + I agree on BoE Administrators.

    The real crimes in Education are PRIORITIES and COST EFFECTIVENESS,
    and effects on CHILDREN and ADULTS.

    At a PUBLIC HEARING, I stunned BoE supporters by pointing out it cost
    $ 60,000 a year to keep a person in PRISON and $ 11,000 to Educate a
    child. I am an ADVOCATE for proper money for EDUCATION.

    —–

    Do I criticize teachers? YUP.

    It is mostly to counter the crowd who claims they have it soo bad!

    Over 60 % of Teachers are at TOP LEVEL $ 89,000 – $94,000 annually.
    > HIGH State Pension, w increase excluding older retired Teachers
    > Badly over priced and over bells/whistled Health Care (for Kick Backs?)
    > 186 work days per year.
    > Rarely over 25-30 hours in class room hours worked – rest time can grade
    papers / homework – work ethic depend on the teacher, which I do NOT
    KNOCK.
    > summer off, if desired and prorated pay, if desired.
    > paid Holidays
    > paid Sick Leave
    > paid Vacation
    > paid Snow days
    > sabbatical potentially available
    > a few 9 consecutive days off, weekly time off
    > Reimbursement for Education.
    > Work in HV/AC or at least HEATED and FAN rooms (inside=not in weather)
    > free and nearby Parking – limited commuter cost, rather than live in
    Stratford and pay higher taxes.
    > Certain expenses paid / reimbursed
    > Matching FICA / MEDICAID / SS
    > Grievance / Arbitration = virtual lifetime guarantee job security.
    > Problem children can be moved and called SPECIAL ED.
    > In house management and peer support
    > Technological support
    > Furnished Rooms with healthy products support
    > Janitorial has to clean up messes on floor, walls, and broken windows
    light bulbs, etc
    > computer programs exist to facilitate grading tests, homework, quiz,
    ESPECIALLY multiple guess.
    > TV & computer programs exist to organize, simplify, and support
    Teaching Plans.

    ——-

    This ABOVE are ONLY to point out there are HUGE BENEFITS to
    TEACHERS and EVERY GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE, compared to many
    parents / people who >
    LOW PAY
    NO / LOW BENEFITS
    WORK OUTSIDE in RAIN, COLD, HEAT, WIND, etc
    MANDATORY O. T. / 6th or 7th DAY
    NO OSHA or FLSA or EEOC or NLRB and “AT WILL”
    NO PAID HOLIDAYS
    NO PAID SICK LEAVE
    NO PAID VACATION
    Business owner / Independent contractor = NO Matching FICA/MEDICAID/SS
    NO unemployment insurance
    NO EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT
    PAY for COMMUTING
    PAY for PARKING

    Unfortunately our enlisted men and women are among the lowest paid
    and least reimbursed for TRUE HAZARD DUTY!

    —-

    I am not WRITING BAD things about the TEACHING as a PROFESSION.
    Nor do I feel badly at the POLICE or FIRE.

    We can disagree on prices paid for PAY, BENEFITS, and PENSIONS with
    out deminishing their Value to the community.

    I am NOT a Socialist / Markist – I am a CAPITALIST, which is a form of
    SOCIALISM as ALMOST no one makes own food, home, auto, and needs.

    Almost everyone agrees CAPITALISM is out of whack as wealth & political
    connections made the playing field uneven.

    PHIN there is the REALITY FLAW in your above argument, which like the
    faded PORTIA, is somewhat idealistic rather than realistic.
    ie .. the way things should be, rather than the way they are.
    I too am guilty of that my friend.

    Both PHIN and PCS are thoughtful and intelligent bloggers.
    We can agree on points and point flaws in each others’ positions which
    is a way to help improve ourselves and the community.

    Please do not take this as gospel, but my dad told me
    “There was only one perfect man … and they crucified him!”

    I spent about equal time in parochial schools and public schools.
    Catholic schools were far, far more demanding.
    I have to agree with PHIN that public school is not as educational
    and far more expensive (per student) than Catholic schools.

    However those NUNS, PRIEST, and LAYITY left lasting emotional scars
    on many alumni. Heavy GUILT.
    Some VERY WEIRD belief tangently related to Catholic DOGMA.

    About 1/2 my life was in Public School with 1/2 my family various
    protestant and a couple distant family Jewish, which a huge mix
    of varied cultures, also from Mason, Shriner, Agnostic/atheist, etc.

    Not a lot of blacks in fairfield (age 9 – 25) but from about 15 to mid 30s,
    I bowled and was close to an older black sportsman/garbageman and
    were team mates for years.

    I never had a clue about many issues as they were non issues to me.
    Wasn’t that an objective to be an american?

    I would like to see people raised up, rather than torn down.

  98. 98 1george1

    I can not disagree with jeze.

    I do note the parsing about “NO EMPLOYEE” having any control.
    It is mostly, but not completely true ….. tick tick

  99. 99 1george1

    JEZE: Both being privately held, there are no reporting
    requirements such as 10Q’s or 10K’s.
    In other words, their costs are whatever they say they are.

    GEO: Kinda line Stratford TOWN + BOE BUDGETS’ line items?

  100. 100 jezebel282

    George,

    “Kinda line Stratford TOWN + BOE BUDGETS’ line items?”

    I have to admit that I have a bit more faith in the BOE budget line items since the BOE has an actually qualified CFO instead of a politically appointed accountant.

  101. 101 pcsperling

    I have some serious problems with the way things are handled in the Town I call home.

    I do not want to be associated with either political party in Town. Unfortunately, each side has an agenda full of bread that is being buttered by favors in a very top heavy administration. This is occurring on both the Town and Board of Education sides.

    There are very serious overspending problems occurring in the Board of Education and the only people getting fat are the upper administrators. The Board Members of the Board of Education helps butter their bread while taking away from our children and the low level employees. Of course, Irene Cornish would disagree.
    Our Mayor, Town Council, Superintendent of Schools and the administration in both Town Hall and the Board of Education hopefully heard some of what President Obama said in the SOTU. In particular:

    “But now that the worst of the recession is over, we have to confront the fact that our government spends more than it takes in. That is not sustainable. Every day, families sacrifice to live within their means. They deserve a government that does the same.”

    We want Town Hall and the Board of Education to spend within their means and stop overspending. As President Obama said “…let’s make sure that what we’re cutting is really excess weight.” And we all know that Town Hall and the BOE has excess weight! Unfortunately, on the BOE side, they make sure the wallets of the administrators are lined and to do that, they threaten school closings each and every year, and take away from our children and the Union workers. Of course they want the biggest part of the pie for themselves.

    President Obama went on to say, that “[c]utting the deficit by gutting our investments in innovation and education is like lightening an overloaded airplane by removing its engine. It may make you feel like you’re flying high at first, but it won’t take long before you feel the impact.”

    I certainly hope that the members of the board of the BOE hear that loud and clear. What the LRFPC is planning is going to remove our engine and our children will be the ones who suffer.

  102. 102 phineast

    Pcs, Let’s just hope that Barry and Michelle heed the words as well, the next time they step on airforce one with their “entourage”. Seriously, they all need to get a grip.

  103. 103 pcsperling

    Phin,

    You are correct, they ALL need to get a grip. This part of Obama’s speech is a prime example of excess fat:

    “We live and do business in the Information Age, but the last major reorganization of the government happened in the age of black-and-white TV. There are 12 different agencies that deal with exports. There are at least five different agencies that deal with housing policy. Then there’s my favorite example: The Interior Department is in charge of salmon while they’re in fresh water, but the Commerce Department handles them when they’re in saltwater. (Laughter.) I hear it gets even more complicated once they’re smoked. (Laughter and applause.)”

    Unfortunately, the way out government has been (federal and local) for too long has been to create job after job for friend, family member, etc. It doesn’t work any longer. We should have a “hands on” Superintendent of Schools who digs in and can multitask with several jobs. Mothers have been multitasking for years….. Perhaps Cornish can get some tips from them! The Stratford BOE is the only place I have heard that has an “executive assistant” to the superintendent. This was done to increase her salary (substantially). Let’s not be fooled. The personnel department head should be researching and negotiating health care, etc. – included with his duties should be benefits. The same on the Town Hall side – stop the waste. Each and every small savings can amount to large ones. Every PENNY adds up. They just don’t have the balls to get it done.

  104. 104 1george1

    Below are my estimates of WASTEFUL SPENDING.

    The PENSIONS were supposed to be self paid by BOND ROI.
    The HEALTH CARE likely is a source of KICK BACK, my opinion:

    Pension (4 mils annually)

    Health Care (4 mils annually) excess

    Other excessive benefits (1/2 – 1 mils annually)

    Police / Fire / PW Budgeted O. T. (3/4 – 1 mils annually)

    Unfunded Mandates (3 mils annually)

    Capital Improvement debt (2 – 3 mils annually) interest payment

    Economic Development / Exodus (2 – 3 mils annually)

    Bidding process / Awards / Change Orders (1 mil annually)

    Excess Budget Attorneys + Consulting + Contractors (1 mil annually)

    -

    According to my MATH, if I am correct, approximately 21 Mils maximum,
    might be WASTE out of 33.32 Mil Rate.
    > Of course there would be some reprioritization of (actual) NEEDS
    and SPENDING, so the MIL RATE could not drop 21 Mils.

    > My guesstimate is there approximately 18 Mils minimum, might be
    WASTE out of 33.32 Mil Rate.
    > Of course there would be some reprioritization of (actual) NEEDS
    and SPENDING, so the MIL RATE could not drop 18 Mils.

    -

    Both PCS and SUDDS favorite Town Councilor (Catalano) among others
    make a passionate argument about having neighborhood schools open.

    From strictly bean counting perspective combining 2 HS in 1, and 2 Jr HS
    into 1 and 10 elementary into 8, may make economic sense (short term)

    There is likely a future to include more virtural education with electronic
    education, testing, and grading, cutting teacher and administrator jobs.

    Which do I support?

    I support what is best for the students, parents, and tax payers, while
    giving fair and honest compensation for government workers who are
    doing a great job alienating the general population.

    -

    Internet is filled with
    NEW(er) Fire Truck PUMPERS $ 180,000-$ 290,000
    NEW(er) Fire Truck PUMPERS $ 60,000-$ 150,000

    Check internet FENTON FIRE TRUCK

  105. 105 pcsperling

    George ~

    I’ll give you a chuckle – a little more wasteful spending. A certain employee (I won’t give HER name) was upset and thought that the toilet paper that was purchased (and remember, it’s purchased in bulk) was too rough for her fanny, so, different toilet paper had to be ordered to appease her!

    There is a great deal of wasteful spending and remember, each and every wasted PENNY adds up to wasted THOUSANDS!

  106. 106 1george1

    YO PCS:
    -
    NO S***!!??
    -
    Did subordinates reinforce the conclusion by noticing discoloration
    during brown nosing rituals?
    -
    I am curious, due to BUYING POWER of the BoE, are their discount
    rates available?
    The 12 schools + Administration Building hold close to 1,000 employees
    and almost 8,000 students, plus visitors.
    The were about 450-500 Town employees and visitors.

    Certain manufacturers are willing to sell TRAIN CARLOADS of generic
    packaged products, as private labelled.
    Exact same product, lower price, without the brand name.
    Among other things my employer sells toilet paper, including GREEN
    (recycled paper – I wonder what they did with the contaminants
    - actually different paper)
    -
    -
    PCS: I have to confess I switched to a more expensive toilet paper brand,
    due to a similar experience, when I experienced some discomfort from
    other causes? However I buy extra, when on Sale.
    -
    I have noticed the brand name toilet paper runs out much quicker
    than in the past.
    I believe all companies have kept prices at same levels, yet decreased
    contents.
    Halloween, I buy large candy bars for bigger kids and smaller for littleones.
    Walmart 6 pack went from $ 2.50 to over $ 3.20.
    -
    Everything has been excuses for increasing business profits, which if they
    are publicly traded, caused increased consolidations of Wealth of the BIG
    OIL + WAR MANUFACTURING Companies of the Military Industrial Complex.
    (UN-WARRANTED INFLUENCE into every HOME + BUSINESS + GOVERNMENT)

    Those controls the Political / Financial Complex and Scientific Technologic
    Elites (controls Public Opinion).

  107. 107 pcsperling

    George, I kid you not; perhaps East Broadway can hold a tag sale and get rid of all of the items that were purchased that pile up because of these types of reasons – not the right pen, not the right paper, not the right toilet paper, not the right hand soap, and I’m sure the list can go on.

    Perhaps this employee should purchase her own TP!

  108. 108 jezebel282

    Update:

    Health Insurers Making Record Profits as Many Postpone Care
    By REED ABELSON
    The New York Times
    Published: May 13, 2011

    The nation’s major health insurers are barreling into a third year of record profits, enriched in recent months by a lingering recessionary mind-set among Americans who are postponing or forgoing medical care.
    The UnitedHealth Group, one of the largest commercial insurers, told analysts that so far this year, insured hospital stays actually decreased in some instances. In reporting its earnings last week, Cigna, another insurer, talked about the “low level” of medical use.
    Yet the companies continue to press for higher premiums, even though their reserve coffers are flush with profits and shareholders have been rewarded with new dividends. Many defend proposed double-digit increases in the rates they charge, citing a need for protection against any sudden uptick in demand once people have more money to spend on their health, as well as the rising price of care.
    Even with a halting economic recovery, doctors and others say many people are still extremely budget-conscious, signaling the possibility of a fundamental change in Americans’ appetite for health care….
    …Significant increases in how much people have to pay for their medical care may prevent a solid rebound. In recent years, many employers have sharply reduced benefits, while raising deductibles and co-payments so people have to reach deeper into their pockets.
    In 2010, about 10 percent of people covered by their employer had a deductible of at least $2,000, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonprofit research group, compared with just 5 percent of covered workers in 2008.
    Doctors, for one, say patients’ attitudes are changing. “Because it’s from Dollar 1 to Dollar 2,000, they are being really conscious of how they spend their money,” said Dr. James Applegate, a family physician in Grand Rapids, Mich. For example, patients question the need for annual blood work.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/14/business/14health.html?_r=1&ref=us

    For anyone not familiar with HSA accounts, you (the patient) must cough up the whole HSA amount before the insurance company pays a penny. All the while you are still paying premiums. In other words, in addition to paying hefty premiums, your cash out of pocket is approximately $60 per week. Unless, of course you get sick. Then you just pay everything up to the HSA amount (say, $3,000).

    Ex: Got a really bad cold? (Upper Respiratory Infection). Doctor visit: approx $150 (for a 10 minute exam). Trip to pharmacy to get whatever medication the pharma rep is pushing this week: $90.
    Did you fall and break something? Man up. Rub some dirt on it and walk it off.

    After a 57% percent one year increase from Connecticare which the BOE is still reeling from the increases haven’t stopped. Now the plan is to shift the entire burden of the HSA accounts to employees. Why we continue with Connecticare is a complete mystery.

  109. 109 1george1

    The above is an example why a copy + paste is superior to a LINK! ;)

  110. 110 jezebel282

    George,

    “The above is an example why a copy + paste is superior to a LINK!”

    The other two differences are that it was short AND relevant.


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