Charter Comments go here

05May08

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82 Responses to “Charter Comments go here”

  1. 1 jezebel282

    George, fast enough?

  2. 2 freedomofspeach

    1. Creation of an Independent Town Attorney

    Of course I agree. What I think you mean is one that is not the Mayors lapdog and represents the town government, all of it. Just realize that when and if things go bad between the branches, such as between the Mayor and TC, then each will need to have one representing their side, and they have the right to have one. Remember an attorney is an advocate for the client, and if the Mayor and TC are in conflict, each will need an advocate. What Miron has relied on is that the TC and others will not go against a gaggle of lawyers, including him, right or wrong.

    What has stopped the TC or any town agency or department from hiring legal representation? If the TC and Mayor are in a conflict, then it appears that town attorney should be renamed the Mayors attorney, and the TC hire their own.

    2. Removal of “at will” status of Town employees.

    The only at will employees are the department heads, everyone else appears to be covered by collective bargaining. It’s not working, as he has fired that class of employees, but they are covered and have recourse. I don’t fully agree on this. The Mayors administration needs to have control and the right to replace the department heads at his/her pleasure. As far as anything other than department heads, the Mayor should abide by the collective bargaining agreement and for cause terminations.

    3. Enhanced budget oversight by the Council

    Need to add teeth to the Charter on oversight. It is my understanding that they have the oversight but no power. They do its call legal action but they are afraid. Just like when he transferred money for his office repair. I though the TC was the one who approved budgets? Transfers to cover accounts misused by departments are within their jurisdiction and authority.

    4. Run Offs (what kind of Charter did we actually vote on?)

    If I remember correctly there is no constitutional or statutory authorization for run offs, they are prohibited. Even if you amended the Special Act Charter I don’t think this was ever possible. Only recalls might have been possible under the Special Act Charter.

    I believe, based on the OLR and review of the statues that the Stratford Special Act Charter, by its amendment, has become a Home Rule Charter. I am sure those on the original CRC who agreed to this may have been mislead buy their legal people if they had the intention to keep the SA Charter, however I don’t see how after the 1969 (I think) legislation that this was possible.

    Two things really need to happen on this ASAP.

    First, the CRC must get a formal ruling from the SOS, OLR, or a Judge on what the charter really is BEFORE its amended again.

    Second, someone needs to find out if this was intentional by the members of the CRC or if they got bad legal advise, and if so, sue sue sue.

  3. 3 jezebel282

    Freedom,

    1. Creation of an Independent Town Attorney

    “Just realize that when and if things go bad between the branches, such as between the Mayor and TC, then each will need to have one representing their side”

    The Town Attorney is paid by the Taxpayer, not by the Council or the Mayor. The Town Attorney represents the citizens and defends the Town’s interest. If disputes between the Council and the Mayor cannot be resolved by an independent Town Attorney then the solution would be referendum, not court.

    2. Removal of “at will” status of Town employees.

    “The only at will employees are the department heads, everyone else appears to be covered by collective bargaining.”

    This is not true. There are employees that are not in a “bargaining unit”. Err…that is if Miron hasn’t fired all of them yet.

    “It’s not working, as he has fired that class of employees, but they are covered and have recourse.”

    Justice delayed is justice denied. It has been almost a full year since he fired the 6 department heads and more than that for CHRO complaints. In the meantime we have lost talented, knowledgeable and dedicated employees.

    “The Mayors administration needs to have control and the right to replace the department heads at his/her pleasure.”

    I couldn’t disagree more. We then lose continuity and are stuck with the most subservient instead of the most talented. “For Cause” is sufficient.

    3. Enhanced budget oversight by the Council

    “I though the TC was the one who approved budgets?”

    Welcome to Stratford.

    4. Run Offs (what kind of Charter did we actually vote on?)

    “Second, someone needs to find out if this was intentional by the members of the CRC or if they got bad legal advise, and if so, sue sue sue.”

    Should we get our Town Attorney to do that?

  4. 4 1george1

    Jeze did a quicky!

    1. Creation of an Independent Town Attorney =

    1 > George agrees. However, virtually every selection means can be steered.
    > Elected
    > Appointed by Mayor
    > Appointed by Town Council = Normally the dominent party.

    ->

    2. Removal of “at will” status of Town employees.

    2 > George partially agrees. There should be contractual & legal protection
    for Town Employees, including career managment.
    Political Appointments are at will. Who defines?

    ->

    3. Enhanced budget oversight by the Council.

    3 > George favors Budget referendums for the people paying the Taxes to
    have oversight on the people overseeing the Budget.
    George feels the Mayor / Education makes their case.
    The Town Council enacts a Budget, with directed constraints, which it can
    do by Ordinance, but not interfer with Administration decisions.
    George has mixed feelings & no time, now.
    George feels it the Mayor / Ed / Council make / justify their case then Budget
    referendum (divided by Town/Ed/Borrowing should pass.

    – >

    4. Run Offs

    4 > Needs to be enabled at State / Federal levels.

    – >

    5. Prohibit Financial Self Interest, as defined by 1991 referendums, with
    stringent definitions and with FINES / CRIMINAL JAIL TIME.
    > Stronger anti-spoils system language
    > Stronger anti-graft language
    > Stronger anti-nepotism language
    > Stronger anti-preferred venders language
    > Greater transparency on relationships, so we do not have the Ethics
    Commission abortions, which I believe exists.
    > Greater Transparency on Bidding
    > Greater Transparency on Change Orders
    > Far more open appointment process to TRUE unaffiliated/independents
    in Committee Appointments

    6. Term Limits as defined by 1991 referendums.
    > 2 year Terms for Town Council & Mayor
    > Term Limit on Mayor

    7. Recall right retained on all elected positions and enacted by State for Mayor.

    8. Mandated Web Transparency on all MEETINGS and Departmental $ documents.

    9. Maintain RIGHT of Town Council to have subpoena power.

    10. I prefer Town Council person-at-large for the 11th vote & back up to partisan
    District Councilor who is non representative due to personality or partisan.
    The At-Large-Councilor would be the Town Council Chairperson.

    11. I prefer a paid Vice Mayor to solve the succession issue, and not create a
    handicap by drafting the council Chair as acting Mayor in case of incapacity or
    imprisonment?

    12. Educational requirements for Department heads maintained.

    13. To be continued

  5. 5 1george1

    George supports the Libertarian position about NOTA.
    It may need to be enacted at state or Federal Level.
    George would like it as a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT

    When one person votes, they would be enabled to cast
    their vote against the choices given to them, by the parties!

    None
    Of
    The
    Above

  6. 6 1george1

    Just wanted to remind Bloggers that there is a string about the Charter
    and Revision.

  7. 7 jezebel282

    I don’t know how many more examples we need (currently 34) to get the CRC to move on the issue of “at will” employment. This is what you get when one person has the sole authority to hire and fire at will:

    You read it in the Post (Never in the Star):

    Stratford loses 4th personnel director

    RICHARD WEIZEL
    Article Last Updated: 05/06/2008 12:55:42 AM EDT

    STRATFORD — Another top town administrator has suddenly resigned.

    Tina Burgett, the town’s fourth human resources director in three years, submitted her letter of resignation Friday to Mayor James R. Miron after four months on the job, leaving town officials and her staff stunned.

    Burgett, who was New Haven’s top personnel official for a decade before coming to Stratford in January, was hired at an annual salary of $85,000, but she indicated in her resignation letter that she wasn’t entirely happy in the post.

    She also said she needed to devote more time to caring for her elderly mother.

    “It has been clear that sometimes the ‘fit’ of a job just isn’t there — and this is one of those times,” Burgett said in a Friday letter to Assistant Human Resources Director Linda LoSchiavo. She added, “It has been clear for a while that my heart is with my mom and [her] care.”

    Both LoSchiavo and Chief Administrative Officer Suzanne McCauley said Monday that Burgett’s elderly mother is ill and lives in the Baltimore-Washington area.

    But LoSchiavo said Burgett gave no indication she was seriously thinking about leaving, and was surprised her boss didn’t even give the usual two weeks notice.

    “I’m very surprised she left so suddenly,” LoSchiavo said. “But it never seemed like she felt comfortable here.”

    Burgett said in her letter to Miron: “Thank you for the opportunity to have worked within your administration the past few months. This is a remarkable community
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    and I wish you well in the future.”

    Burgett replaced former Human Resources Director Marilyn Flores, who resigned from the job in December after serving just 21 months.

    Flores’ resignation came during a tumultuous shakeup at Town Hall, when numerous town officials either resigned or were replaced by the mayor. There have been four human resources directors in Stratford over the past three years.

    Critics of the mayor say he has created an “uncomfortable” work environment that has forced numerous officials to leave when they don’t agree with his policies.

    Miron has also replaced other key officials.

    When Burgett took the job in January, she indicated she was looking for a “change of pace” to working in the state’s third-largest city and overseeing more than 5,000 municipal employees, compared to 500 in Stratford.

    At the time, Jessica Mayorga, director of communications for the city of New Haven, said Burgett wanted a somewhat slower work pace in a smaller community. “Tina said she was interested in a different pace after working in the city for 10 years, and particularly a post that would involve more human resources and less civil service duties,” Mayorga said..

    McCauley said Monday the process of replacing Burgett will begin immediately, and that there are several finalists from the job search process when Burgett was hired who will be contacted.

    “We’re sorry to see her go, she was a top human resources professional and we had hoped it would work out,” McCauley said. “But for whatever reason, it just didn’t.”

    Miron could not be reached for comment. (Of course not)

  8. 8 1george1

    How long has Mrs. LoSchiavo been an assistant there?
    I thought she was in finance?

    Or was that Mrs. Vedock?

    Since this appears to be a surprize situation, where oh where can we
    find “stability?”

    Jeze, your post the other day appears precient about that person?

    I am not 100 % sure this is a C. R. C. issue.
    Virtually any system can work IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE!
    And RIGHT PEOPLE, normally isn’t that hard?

    Saying in D. C. “Personnel is policy.”

  9. 9 jezebel282

    George,

    “Jeze, your post the other day appears precient about that person?”

    It isn’t brain surgery, you know.

    Neither is this:

    “Both LoSchiavo and Chief Administrative Officer Suzanne McCauley said Monday that Burgett’s elderly mother is ill and lives in the Baltimore-Washington area.”

    Of all the reasons Burgett could come up with this has to be the most obviously wrong one. She was the HR DIRECTOR. Was she unaware of the Family Leave Act?

  10. 10 jezebel282

    Note to CRC: The results of “at will” employment.

    Fired:

    Ben Branyan
    Judy Heigel
    Pat Blumstein
    Al Dubois
    Elaine O’Keefe
    Mary Tiernan
    Eileen Murphey
    Diane Toolan
    Pat Naylor
    Sue Nicholson
    Brian Thomas
    John Carroll
    Steven Danzer
    Ken Kellogg
    Beth Stremple
    Patrice Sulik
    Len Buehler
    Kim Correia
    Diane Maurice

    Retired (with pot o’ gold)

    Ron Natrass
    Mike Imbro
    Pat Ulatowski
    Mark DeLieto
    David Evans
    Tom Rodia
    Robert Skrutsky
    Richard Yeomans
    Chris Marino

    Quit:
    Mark Haddad
    Marilyn Flores
    Kent Miller (Fired, rehired, quit)
    Angelo Stavola
    Tina Burgett

    Hired:

    Richard Buturla
    John Buturla
    Christian Miron
    Susan Pawluk
    Suzanne McCauley
    Susan Collier
    Heather Habelka
    Ashley Heydu

  11. 11 justanotherreader

    I’m sure the forensic audit of Ms. Burgett will commence any minute now. Is LoSchiavo really the assistant director? I sure hope that is a typo because…….

  12. 12 sudds

    “Of all the reasons Burgett could come up with this has to be the most obviously wrong one. She was the HR DIRECTOR. Was she unaware of the Family Leave Act?”

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

    On a serious note… instead of replacing her for $85k (plus bene’s), can’t Miron just have Ashley/Heather use the rubber stamp???

    Oh wait, I guess that would require them to actually come into the office, huh?

  13. 13 1george1

    Art least Jim has not hired Leemings…
    A few RATS …. 😉

  14. 14 jezebel282

    Sudds,

    It is rather strange since Miron allowed Heather Siano (now Habelka) to work from home for four months after Heather magnanimously volunteered to do so.

  15. 15 sudds

    Umm… (Jez please don’t read any further because I don’t want to be responsible for soeone having a stroke)…

    …what type of aide does a mayoral aide provide from home??

    Jez, since I know you kept reading… remember… in through the nose… out through the mouth… go to your happy place now and keep breathing!!

  16. 16 jezebel282

    Sudds,

    Apparently, Miron is the only one who got stroked.

  17. 17 sudds

    Oh!

    So then I guess Gavin no longer has to ask for those job descriptions, huh??? (LOL)

  18. 18 jezebel282

    Sudds,

    Some things are beneath even a politician.

  19. 19 sudds

    I guess we now know the REAL reason Ms. Wanamaker voted against the CRC… 😈

    – MR. PROTO MOVED TO SUPPLEMENT THE CURRENT LANGUAGE OF SECTION 5.1.2. WITH THE MORE GENERIC LANGUAGE OF SECTION 5.2.3 AS FOLLOWS: THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS OF THE CAO SHALL BE A MASTER OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION DEGREE, MASTER OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION DEGREE, OR SUCH OTHER GENERAL EXECUTIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE EXPERIENCE AND ABILITY. MR. FREDETTE SECONDED.

    Discussion followed.

    – Mr. Booth questioned whether Section 5.1.2 should name specific Degrees since the language already references educational background, training, etc. Ms. Rodia and Mr. Fahan were against eliminating the Degree requirements for CAO.

    – Mr. Proto didn’t want anyone to limit the qualifications for CAO to specific Degrees so he amended his earlier motion to add the word “education” to the other qualifications. In addition, he deleted the word “minimum”.

    – MR. PROTO’S MOTION TO REVISE SECTION 5.1.2. CARRIED 8-0 (with Ms.
    McMellon absent). Section 5.1.2, in its final form, was revised as follows:
    THE CAO SHALL BE APPOINTED AND MAY BE REMOVED OR SUSPENDED, WITH OR WITHOUT PAY, BY THE MAYOR. THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE CAO SHALL BE A MASTER OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION DEGREE, MASTER OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION DEGREE, OR SUCH OTHER EDUCATION, GENERAL EXECUTIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE EXPERIENCE AND ABILITY. THE CAO SHALL BE APPOINTED ON THE BASIS OF SUCH FACTORS INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, EDUCATION, MUNICIPAL AND PUBLIC EXPERIENCE, PROFESSIONAL TRAINING AND EXECUTIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE QUALIFICATIONS.

  20. 20 gforrester

    MAY BE REMOVED OR SUSPENDED, WITH OR WITHOUT PAY, BY THE MAYOR.

    Sounds like another at will employee that will bite the dust lol.

  21. 21 jezebel282

    At some point we must question the necessity of a CAO at all. If I recall, the position was created specifically to keep Ben Branyan in Town Hall. That, of course, only lasted 7 months with Miron. Then we got Kent Miller and Mark Haddad.

  22. 22 freedomofspeach

    You mean like a law degree Mr. Proto?

    I have a better idea. An MBA or MPA should be the minimum for the CAO job. Period. I can’t see anyone in an administrative management position with the budget that you have not havening a graduate education. I don’t care if he/she has experience, Dick Miron has many years of government and business experience, and I am sure you don’t want the new Mayor to appoint someone like him. There is a technical part of the MBA/MPA program that cant be replaced by a BA/BS degree and experience.

    As far as at will, yes this is the Mayors executive staff and should serve at the pleasure of the Mayor.

  23. 23 sudds

    “I have a better idea. An MBA or MPA should be the minimum for the CAO job. Period. I can’t see anyone in an administrative management position with the budget that you have not havening a graduate education. I don’t care if he/she has experience”

    Umm Freedom… UNH offers an MBA with a concentration in Management of Sports Industries…

    http://www.newhaven.edu/6851/

    …do you REALLY think that this person should get the position and someone with umpteen years of experience should not be eligible???

    If so, are you by any chance a single male interested in dating a Councilwoman… you two would be a PERFECT match!?!?!?

  24. 24 sudds

    take two, first try didn’t post (dangit)

    “I have a better idea. An MBA or MPA should be the minimum for the CAO job. Period. I can’t see anyone in an administrative management position with the budget that you have not havening a graduate education. I don’t care if he/she has experience”

    Umm Freedom… The University of New Haven offers an MBA with a concentration in “Management of Sports Industries”…

    …honestly, they do… http://www.newhaven.edu/6851/

    Do you REALLY think that someone with this degree should be eligble, and someone with umpteen years of experience should not?

    If so, by any chance are you a single male interested in dating a Councilwoman? Trust me… you two will hit it off perfectly!?!?!?

  25. 25 1george1

    Where did Andrew Carnegie and Henry Ford get their MBA or MPA?

    Hey Gavin,
    You seem to be havin toooo good a time poppin balloons? 🙂
    glad ta read it.

  26. 26 freedomofspeach

    1george1

    Very different times and a very different country. Cannot even compare them.

    Back then you could be a medical doctor with a year or so of training out of high school, dentists went to trade type schools, and accountants were apprenticed.

    Carnegie also gave us the Homestead Strike. Ford was an industrial genius, but was said, due to his lack of education, to have no depth of character or sophistication.

    So when you have a budget as large as Stratford’s, numerous administrative issues in government, including grant administration, HR, as well as other financial issues, a graduate education in the specific field is important.

    Or are you siding with Ben Proto?

  27. 27 1george1

    I also read that Carnegie and Ford had a lot more faults.

    However, my point is that having a MBA or MPA is not the be-all / end-all,
    measure of pragmatic / private sector excellence, or even constructive
    contibutors to societly not unlike most people in the political injustice
    system. 😦

    Ben Proto is a good writer / Lawyer. Occasionally things he prioritizes and
    things I prioritize MAY coincide. 🙂

    Despite the fact the people on the C. R. C. are capable and passionate about
    their beliefs and put in a lot of time and effort, does NOT EQUATE to a TOWN
    CHARTER in the BEST INTERESTS of the Business people and Residents of the
    TOWN. Proof?

    The disgrace which is the REVISED CHARTER and as BURTURLA CLAIMS >
    “A WHOLE NEW TOWN CHARTER?”

    ->

    Stratford politics is an extreme example of what is wrong with USA politics,
    1 – where the SPOILS SYSTEM in ingrained and the Mirons, are NOT subtle!
    2 – where the PETTY Plutocrats grab hold of Town Committees and PERVERT,
    SUBVERT, and CONVERT the Assets and Rights of the people, to self interest!
    3 – where the RULES move from RIGHTS of the PEOPLE to STRONG (DICTATORS
    are the EXTREME EXAMPLE of STRONG) Government

    I could continue, however….

  28. 28 sudds

    Freedom…

    Let me try to simplify this one for you (and in full disclosure I DO have my MBA, and no it’s not in Management of Sports Industries)…

    Hypothetically speaking, who would you rather have being Stratford’s CAO?

    a) Amy Wanamaker
    b) Warren Buffet

    Hint: only one of these has HER Master’s Degree

  29. 29 freedomofspeach

    I never said the end all be all is an MBA or MPA. Or a JD or DBA/PhD for that matter. Heck, Norm A has a CPA and might have an MBA, and I don’t think he would be qualified. The books are fine as they are on simmer. Then make it an MPA, since that is clearly related or MBA in Govt.

    And for disclosure, I have an undergraduate degree (BSci), and two post graduate degrees, many professional certifications, a few post graduate diplomas, have 20 plus years of government and private employment in responsible positions, and don’t feel I am qualified for the CAO position. I could figure it out if I had to, but I don’t have the administrative knowledge and skills to do the job well.

    What I said is that the Knowledge, Skills, and Abilities for the position has to be a combination of graduate education and experience. The problem is if the Mayor, who presently hires hacks and sends them to school, could hire one of them for the CAO position and just say they have the “experience”. Would you like anyone in his office staff to be CAO? How about Dick Miron, many years of experience, would you want him?

    Not knocking Ben Proto’s education or experience, who I assume has a BA in Poli Sci and a JD, in this case might qualify for the CAO position. Although he might make a great Chief of Staff, I don’t think he would make a great CAO. This is a numbers and administrative position, and needs to have the highest level of education. A BA or BS just won’t cut it.

    I know a lot of people with an MBA or Masters Degree who are unqualified for any job, but by making that a condition of the job, I feel you have a better chance of not getting a Dick Miron or another hack. But if the Mayor can hire anyone who he/she feels has experience, and that’s a broad statement, then you’re going to get someone who is only qualified by the Mayor. And again, although I am sure Mr. Proto is a good attorney and fairly qualified political person, and of course knows town government and has 10 plus years of experience, I doubt he would make a good CAO, but without using the MBA/MPA standard, he could be considered qualified for the position.

    Also, this is an administrative position, he’s not the chief manager he is the chief administrator. All of the people who you and George have brought up were visionaries not administrators. Global thinkers not detailed administrators. They invested and managed, not administered programs and policies under the direction of a manager.

    Also, Buffett went to Wharton and Univ of NB, he went for his Masters at Harvard for a while in the Business or Economics program I believe. He does not “run” companies he invests in them, hires cleaners, and then gets out. He, as well as the others mentioned were self made and not in a government administrative position. Some were in political positions but not as real administrators.

    Its just strange that no one wants to use an accepted measurement of professional standards, an education, as a baseline for this position.

  30. 30 jezebel282

    Freedom,

    “And for disclosure, I have an undergraduate degree (BSci), and two post graduate degrees, many professional certifications, a few post graduate diplomas,”

    I’ll bet your parents are damn glad you’re finally out of the house!

  31. 31 sudds

    Freedom…

    A couple of quick counterpoints:

    1) He does not “run” companies he invests in them, hires cleaners, and then gets out.

    Actually he is the CEO of this little company you may have heard of called Berkshire Hathaway
    ( http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/qtrly/1stqtr08.pdf )

    2) “Then make it an MPA, since that is clearly related or MBA in Govt.”

    Ms. Wanamaker has an Masters in Government Administration
    ( http://stratforddemocrats.com/Amy_Wanamaker )

    So… I ask you again good sir:

    Hypothetically speaking, who would you rather have being Stratford’s CAO?

    a) Amy Wanamaker
    b) Warren Buffet

  32. 32 1george1

    From Wikipedia on Warren Buffet:

    One of his mentors, arguably the most influential, was Benjamin Graham. Graham’s philosophy had such an impact on Buffett that he enrolled in
    Columbia Business School
    to study directly under him. In Buffett’s own words:
    “I’m 15 percent Fisher and 85 percent Benjamin Graham.”

    As Buffett would often say about Graham’s teachings:
    “The basic ideas of investing are to look at stocks as business, use the market’s fluctuations to your advantage, and seek a margin of safety.
    That’s what Ben Graham taught us. A hundred years from now they will still be the cornerstones of investing.”

    ->

    Administrators are hired by the RAIN MAKERS, as are bureaucrats and others.

    There is a division of labor, suggested by Adam Smith’s “Wealth of Nations,”
    whereas different skills and talents are brought together to make EnterPRIZE
    into a successful entity.

    In Business, INNOVATION is the buzzword for getting / staying PROFITABLE,
    yet there are Personnel, Process, and Procedures to turn concepts into
    reality and drive products and services to different degrees of profitability.

    In Politics, DIALECTIC is the reality. Unfortunately the momentum is always
    towards hoarding of power and assets, including changing and making rules
    whereas the FEW are able to divert the MOST, for self benefit.

    A viable Check and Balance is the vanguard of Enlightened self interest,
    While the CONSTITUTION sets forth Checks and Balances, it also has LOOP
    HOLES, which allow for entanglements.
    Then there are the
    U. S. CODE, FEDERAL REGS. etc..
    STATE STATUTES & REGS. etc..
    TOWN ORDINANCES, RESOLUTIONS, REGS / CODES etc..
    PUBLIC SECTOR custom ..
    PRIVATE SECTOR custom ..

    All of which directly impact INALIENABLE RIGHTS & HUMAN INSTINCTS

    If man were angels….
    There would be no need for government

    “Government is INSTITUTED among MEN…..”

  33. 33 freedomofspeach

    I am familiar with Berkshire, and the position of a CEO of a public or private company. A CEO is not a CAO. In your case the CEO would be the Mayor and the CAO would be his administrative manager. Running the company or town, is different than running the administrative actions of a company or town.

    However, I can understand your feelings looking at the fact that Heather has an MBA and has moved up in the hackdom of Mayor Myron.

    In addition, its not just the MBA/MPA, it’s the combination of education and experience, however if the mayor at this time wants to hire Ms. Whatever or Heather, to the position of CAO, as they both appear to have MBAs, then guess what, you got them. Without those requirements you can get Christian or Dick as the CAO.

    What would you prefer sir?

    The problem is not the requirements for the job it’s picking the best qualified person as your Mayor, someone who is a manager, has leadership ability, and ethics. Something you don’t see a lot of in Stratford Politics. Then this point would be moot.

    But there is no sense in debating what you, as a taxpayer want, vs. what I as an outsider thinks would work better. You get the vote, I don’t.

    And Jez, I have been out living on my own since 17, as I come from an earlier time where you leave and don’t move back and stay until your 30. I also paid for my own education, and my student loans are paid off. Yes my Mother is very proud of my accomplishments, thanks for asking.

  34. 34 jezebel282

    Freedom,

    When I used to start a fire in the cave to keep us warm, that’s the way I remember doing it.

  35. 35 freedomofspeach

    From the CT Post Online
    “Milford voters do have the right to recall elected officials, City Attorney Marilyn Lipton said. The process, in the city charter, is legal because Milford was created by a special act of the General Assembly and its recall provision predates a court decision restricting it.”

    Hey I guess since 1969 Milford never amended its charter. Or did they?

    Wake up TC and CRC, do you or do you not have a Special Act Charter? You need an opinion from someone other than the hacks working for the Mayor. If not, what are you going to do to those who usurped the will of the people?

  36. 36 1george1

    From Freedom

    From the CT Post Online
    “Milford voters do have the right to recall elected officials, City Attorney Marilyn Lipton said. The process, in the city charter, is legal because Milford was created by a special act of the General Assembly and its recall provision predates a court decision restricting it.”

    Hey I guess since 1969 Milford never amended its charter. Or did they?

    ->

    It was worth REPOSTING. Thank you Freedom

  37. 37 1george1

    This is the CHARTER COMMENTS SECTION, in the BLOG STRATFORD CHARTER.

    Here is something I found which can help Budgetary Transparency, which I
    believe there should be sections in the Charter about increased Transparency
    and more rights for the people, which is the beginning of this article:

    A revolution for small investors

    Soon all companies will report financials in a programming language called XBRL that will allow you and me to slice and dice numbers like never before.

    By Michael Brush

    A few years from now, don’t be surprised if some blogger in his boxer shorts brings down the next Enron. (YO JEZE & PLAY WRITE / HAND)

    That may seem far-fetched, but hold off on the laughter. (SUDDS)

    That’s because individual investors in the U.S. will soon move another step closer to a brave new world of democratized financial information that will put powerful analytical tools on their desktops. (PAYIN TTENTION – GAVIN?)

    On May 14, the Securities and Exchange Commission will announce the next steps for making all companies report financials using a software programming language called XBRL.

    XBRL will eventually put a far superior version of Wall Street’s high-priced tools in the hands of regular investors for free and maybe even help them uncover the next accounting scandal. (FREEDOM O SPEACH = SQUEAKY CLEAN?)

    XBRL will bring such a revolution to investment analysis that any Sherlock Holmes who X-rays financials for clues on a company’s health needs to learn about it — and push the SEC to make companies adopt it as soon as possible. (officer sean? HAHAHA)

    The basics

    The idea behind XBRL, short for eXtensible Business Reporting Language, is simple: Instead of treating numbers in financial reports like dumb text on a page, it assigns a “bar code” tag to each number. So no matter what company you are looking at, the same tag will flag the figures for sales or gross margins in a master database at the SEC.

    Though the basics of XBRL are simple, the implications are profound — and not only for investors and regulators. Police in Spain are using XBRL to track money laundering, and environmentalists can use it to rank companies based on their impact on climate change. (FORENSIC AUDIT – TOM?)

    That’s the good news.

    The bad news is the U.S. is woefully behind in making companies report financials coded with XBRL, and Congress needs to goose regulators to make them catch up. China already requires XBRL for companies listed on its exchanges, and XBRL is widely used in Japan, Europe and elsewhere. (That sigh was from BURTURLA)

    The SEC should bring XBRL to all companies within two to three years. That’s way too slow, given how cheap and easy it is to file financials using XBRL and how much it would help investors. Every day that XBRL is not fully implemented is another day in which Wall Street insider sand hedge funds have a big, unnecessary advantage over the little guy.

    Here’s how XBRL will revolutionize the world for investors.

    Lord of the numbers

    Free XBRL data streamed in real time to computer desktops — or “interactive data,” as the SEC calls it — will let investors slice and dice numbers, create analytical ratios and perform cross-company comparisons like never before. (Hey PCS = easier research)

    “For the first time, instantly, you’ll be able to compare any item of financial information from thousands of companies around the world,” SEC Chairman

    Christopher Cox said in a prepared statement to MSN Money. “The light that this will shed on stocks, bonds, and mutual funds will make investing choices far more understandable for every American. Interactive data is to financial reporting what Gutenberg’s moveable type was to printing.” (mike reynolds…)

    Suppose you wanted to know which airline is the most vulnerable to rising fuel costs because it is spending the highest amount on fuel per dollar earned in ticket sales. Using XBRL tags, you could create an analysis that looks across the airline industry in an instant.

    That’s how at least one client uses XBRL feeds provided by Edgar Online (EDGR, news, msgs), a company that already offers a private XBRL database for a fee of a few thousand dollars a year.

    “It saves them the time of going to all the filings of all the airlines, so they can do those comparisons quickly,” says Sue Childs, who heads up marketing for Edgar Online.
    In another example, you could quickly compare inventory levels at a company against its competitors to see whether it looks vulnerable because goods are stacking up in warehouses — even if sales growth appears rosy because of some accounting gimmickry. (MAYORS PROPOSED BUGDETS)

    “You can slice and dice numbers, move things around and do comparisons on a detailed level across industries or any group of companies that you set up,” says Charles Hoffman, an accountant who also plays with software and who thought up the idea of XBRL a decade ago. “This is something that has been closed to individual investors because it cost so much money. But they will have the same access that any analyst has. Basically, XBRL levels the playing field,” says Hoffman, who now works for UBmatrix, which helps companies implement XBRL.
    “This is content that has been stuck on the page like a clay mark on tablet,” agrees David Blaszkowsky, the SEC’s head of interactive disclosure. “The idea is to liberate it from the page and make it usable in a way that you cannot today.” (ACTUARIAL)

    More numbers

    Right now, investors with a budget can do much of this kind of analysis by subscribing to the financial-database services of companies such as Thomson Reuters (TRI, news, msgs) or Compustat, a division of McGraw-Hill (MHP, news, msgs). As good as these services are, they have several shortcomings compared with what will be available via XBRL feeds.

    First off, these services provide only 200 to 400 data points from corporate financials, estimates Mike Willis, a partner at PricewaterhouseCoopers and the founding chairman of XBRL International. In contrast, a typical annual report contains many more numbers and anywhere from 3,500 to 5,000 data points, concepts expressed through words and images, he says. All of them will be accessible through XBRL tags.

    MORE = But you get the idea

    === E. R. P.

    Enterprise resource planning (ERP) systems attempt to integrate several data sources and processes of an organization into a unified system. A typical ERP system will use multiple components of computer software and hardware to achieve the integration. A key ingredient of most ERP systems is the use of a unified database to store data for the various system modules.

    The two key components of an ERP system are a common database and a modular software design. A common database is the system that allows every department of a company to store and retrieve information in real-time.

    Using a common database allows information to be more reliable, accessible, and easily shared. Furthermore, a modular software design is a variety of programs that can be added on an individual basis to improve the efficiency of the business. This improves the business by adding functionality, mixing and matching programs from different vendors, and allowing the company to choose which modules to implement. These modular software designs link into the common database, so that all of the information between the departments is accessible in real time.

    ……….. The initials ERP originated as an extension of MRP (material requirements planning then manufacturing resource planning).[2] ERP systems now attempt to cover all basic functions of an enterprise, regardless of the organization’s business or charter. Non-manufacturing businesses, non-profit organizations and governments now all utilize ERP systems.

    …………Before
    Prior to the concept of ERP systems, it was not unusual for each department within an organization to have its own customized computer system. For example, the human resources (HR) department, the payroll department, and the financial department might all have their own computer systems.

    Typical difficulties involved integration of data from potentially different computer manufacturers and systems. For example, the HR computer system (often called HRMS or HRIS) would typically manage employee information while the payroll department would typically calculate and store paycheck information for each employee, and the financial department would typically store financial transactions for the organization. Each system would have to integrate using a predefined set of common data which would be transferred between each computer system. Any deviation from the data format or the integration schedule often resulted in problems.

    [edit] After
    ERP software, among other things, combined the data of formerly separate applications. This simplified keeping data in synchronization across the enterprise, it simplified the computer infrastructure within a large organization, and it standardized and reduced the number of software specialties required within larger organizations.

    [edit] Best Practices

    MORE = You get the idea
    There is already are newer more comprehensive steps

  38. 38 jezebel282

    George!

    Please! I even gave you your own page. Stop cutting and pasting. A link would be fine if you must.

  39. 39 1george1

    I do not know how to link.
    I know how to cut & paste.
    Sorry.

    Is it just typing in the website address?

  40. 40 jezebel282

    George,

    Yes. Just block the URL (hold down the left button) when you have it right click select “copy”, then place the cursor at the point you want it to appear in the text, right click again (or hit CTRL V) and select “paste” Voila!

    (That’ll be $25 for the Windows tutorial, please.)

  41. 41 1george1

    URL?

  42. 42 sudds

    George, see at the top of your screen where it says http://____________ (that’s a URL)

    just put your mouse over it and left click it once (and it should become highlighted)

    then right click over it and choose “copy”

    come back to the Reply box, right click again and choose “paste”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    My $25 consulting fee can be donated to the Sperling for Mayor campaign!!!

  43. 43 jezebel282

    George,

    Listen carefully…

    Put the mouse down and step slowly away from the keyboard.

  44. 44 1george1

    Jeze,

    Gotcha! 8)

  45. 45 jezebel282

    Tonight at 6pm in the Council Chambers is the third and FINAL chance for voter input to the Charter Revision.

    In less than 2 weeks the Commission must submit its version of a revised charter to the full Council.

    After months of listening to attorneys debate prepositions, pronouns, verbs, and case law the Commission has recommended very little in the way of actual change. The single most beneficial change was council approval of the appointment of a Town Attorney and voluntary Commission members.

    While the CRC did recommend a small strengthening of the Council’s power to prevent budget transfers, not much else has changed besides cleaning up the awful text of the last Charter.

    So what?
    After two years of exploiting every single weakness of the current Charter by Mayor Moron, only two recommendations have been accepted. James Miron has shown by example after example what you can do with a poorly written Charter. The CRC’s deliberations reflect a wholly underwhelming effort.

    We still do not have an independent Town Attorney.
    We still have every department remaining subject to exclusively political appointments every four years.
    We still have every town employee remaining fearful of their jobs when they disagree.
    We still have lack of hiring/firing oversight.
    We still have a lack of financial oversight.

    But most importantly, we do not have the right of recall. When the next mayor is elected and chooses not to abide by Council rulings what will happen is…nothing. There is no downside for a mayor if he chooses to abuse the office.

    We asked the CRC to stop the bleeding and they responded by telling us to “walk it off”.

  46. The Town Council should tell the CRC to “walk it off” and send the report right back to them for further deliberations. If it doesn’t, then they are a part of this and have been from the beginning. Shame on Councilmen Henrick, Moore, Kubic, Julian, Dempsey, and Stroomer – shame, shame, shame on ALL of you! And, I’ll add one more, Councilman Forrester, who I expected much more from.

  47. 47 gforrester

    Shame on Councilmen Henrick, Moore, Kubic, Julian, Dempsey, and Stroomer – shame, shame, shame on ALL of you! And, I’ll add one more, Councilman Forrester, who I expected much more from.

    Cyclops expected much more in terms of what? We established the CRC despite opposition and have yet to received their final report or even act upon it. From what I have seen to date I am dispointed and might send it back but I anxiously await the final report before making my final decision.

  48. 48 sudds

    Mr. Forrester… are you SURE that you don’t want to run for mayor???

    How about if I beg???

  49. 49 1george1

    Jeze,
    I am against a bad revised charter and the blown opportunities of the new one.
    You appear against the C. R. C. results.
    Gavin appears unimpressed?
    G. I. G. O.
    Personnel is policy.

    If I, Diane Buda, some of the petitioners like David Blumstein were on the C.R.C.
    instead of people on Berchem & Miron payroll, maybe there would be some of the
    things you and I blog about.
    But then, more rights for the people and less control for Lawyers & the party… 😦

    Regardless if the C. R. C. is rejected by the Town Council or sent to election,
    I believe the people of Stratford, still lose.

  50. 50 sudds

    Ok folks, sorry to do this to all of you, but… I’ve got to get serious for a moment here. Jez, regarding your comments/questions (and anyone can feel free to chime in here)…

    1) “We still do not have and independent Town Attorney”

    Do we actually know of a single attorney with a broad enough experience base to handle (with expertise) cases such as workers compensation, avco/superfund/pollution properties, remediation of asbestos cases, etc?

    If so, I would back you on this 100%, but otherwise I cannot see how we can possibly have just one attorney for everything! I think (due to their theoretical control of the budget) that the real controlling of costs should reside in the Council, no? (if they only approve a budget at $x per hour… then that is the rate we are offering)

    2) “We still have every department remaining subject to exclusively political appointments every four years”

    Umm… haven’t we always been subject to this??? It’s just that the Republicans were in power for so long so that all of the political appointees just maintained the status-quo year-after-year/election-after-election. But when the Republicans f’ed things up (let’s be honest… when Mr. Best f’ed things up for the Republicans) in the Mayoral election… the Democrats finally got a chance to “take a turn”. And well, we all know where this story leads…

    3) “We still have every town employee remaining fearful of their jobs when they disagree”

    Welcome to Corporate America sweetheart! Seriously… who doesn’t face a certain amount of this at their job? I’ll be honest and admit that my boss is actually pretty open about hearing all sides to an argument… but how many people are that lucky? How many people can show their boss up and still have a job?

    4) “We still have lack of hiring/firing oversight”

    How many employees of the town are actually non-unionized? Department heads plus what 10… MAYBE 15 other employees? I understand (and sympathize with) the people out there who are quite bitter about losing their jobs due to moves that Premier Miron made. But personally I’d rather allow the mayor authority to fire employees (assuming that future mayors won’t be so Lenin-like), than have the town stuck with “dead-weight” because there is nothing we can do with the person!!!

    I know that you’re going to say that they could still be fired with approval, but since the Council is pretty much ALWAYS Republican controlled… won’t we just get stuck with Republican dead-weight??

    5) “But most importantly, we do not have the right of recall”

    Umm… am I incorrect or wasn’t it determined that we canNOT have recall? Something to do with type of Charter that we have? Truth be told I didn’t dig too deeply into the whole legalese of the subject… so feel free to tee off on this one and yell at me!

    Ok… sorry again folks… I’ll STOP being serious now!!! 😎

    Now… please just give me a second to put on my flack jacket before you all start firing away….

  51. 51 jezebel282

    Sudds,

    “Do we actually know of a single attorney with a broad enough experience base to handle (with expertise) cases such as workers compensation, avco/superfund/pollution properties, remediation of asbestos cases, etc?”

    No. No one attorney can do that. Not even Rich Buturla. That’s what consulting attorneys are for. Much the same as corporate attorneys, local attorneys are hired to consult in different jurisdictions. Or the same way as, say, Kevin Kelley working on Avalon Bay for tens of thousands of dollars.

    A reasonable method would be a full time attorney with enough budget for a paralegal or two. The BULK of Town work are leases, ordinances, contracts and labor.

    “Umm… haven’t we always been subject to this??? It’s just that the Republicans were in power for so long so that all of the political appointees just maintained the status-quo year-after-year/election-after-election.”

    Actually no. Not at Department Head level. Pat Ulatowski worked 39 years for the Town without kissing anyone’s a$$. Diane Toolan was not a political appointment. Ed Gomo had no known political affiliation, Mike Imbro also kissed no butt.

    “Welcome to Corporate America sweetheart! Seriously… who doesn’t face a certain amount of this at their job? ”

    A certain amount is one thing. Being fired for being a democrat or republican is another. I am not saying (yet again) that no firing is possible. But it should be for cause.

    “How many employees of the town are actually non-unionized? Department heads plus what 10… MAYBE 15 other employees?”

    Actually it doesn’t matter. Miron fired them anyway. He said it was for “budgetary” reasons. Union affiliation doesn’t matter if you don’t care. To date all 6 must wait for the end of the arbitration process (while unemployed). That was 12 months ago and they are still waiting. It has been longer for employees that have filed CHRO complaints. All of which could have been avoided.

    “Umm… am I incorrect or wasn’t it determined that we canNOT have recall?”

    Maybe, maybe not. You trust Rich Buturla to give you an opinion on that. I would settle for suspension without pay for a mayor in violation of council ordinances.

    Did I yell?

  52. 52 sudds

    Thanks for not yelling, but please forgive me if I choose to leave the protective ear (especially the “cup”) on!!!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    a. “A reasonable method would be a full time attorney with enough budget for a paralegal or two. The BULK of Town work are leases, ordinances, contracts and labor.”

    But then we’d have to worry about paying for health insurance, retirement, payroll taxes, etc. for THREE more people! By keeping it external we just agree to pay $X… and that’s it! (theoretically anyway)

    b. “Actually no. Not at Department Head level. Pat Ulatowski worked 39 years for the Town without kissing anyone’s a$$. Diane Toolan was not a political appointment. Ed Gomo had no known political affiliation, Mike Imbro also kissed no butt.”

    I do not know a single one of these people, nor do I know the entire situation, so I really can’t comment on individual cases… I just honestly hope that they were not completely f-ed over.

    Although, I must add that I find it hard to believe that any town employee in Stratford does not have a political connection of some kind!!!

    c. “A certain amount is one thing. Being fired for being a democrat or republican is another. I am not saying (yet again) that no firing is possible. But it should be for cause.”

    I personally think that the entire “with cause” thing would leave the town more open to risk than the current system! Additionally, at this point (1) there’s not too many “pre-Miron” employees left and (2) everyone new should know what’s going on if you take a job in this town… if you’re willing to accept the job under these terms then I wish you luck. If you take the job without knowing what is going on (just like in the real world) then you apparently do not do thorough enough research before making a decision, and the town is probably better off without you!!!

    d. “Actually it doesn’t matter. Miron fired them anyway.”

    So then most of our employees are new or the jobs are vacant, right? Again… caveat emptor!!!

    e. “Maybe, maybe not. You trust Rich Buturla to give you an opinion on that.”

    Last I heard the CRC2 was leaving recall in, and if someone wants to take it to court then so be it. But if they take it out, and it turns out that we are “special act” (or whatever it is)… oops, sorry, can’t get recall back again! KUDOS to the CRC2 for this decision!!!

    f. “I would settle for suspension without pay for a mayor in violation of council ordinances.”

    What if Donut-boy runs on a “I will skip my salary if elected” platform again and wins? You’re basically proposing that we give him a vacation for violating the council ordinances?!?!?!?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hang on… give me a second to adjust this “supporter” a bit… ok… I’m ready…

  53. 53 jezebel282

    Sudds,

    Tighten it up, sir.

    “But then we’d have to worry about paying for health insurance, retirement, payroll taxes, etc. for THREE more people! By keeping it external we just agree to pay $X… and that’s it! (theoretically anyway)”

    Compared to the $1.25 Million/year we’ve spent…it’s a bargain! Plus, we’d probably get more work done.

    “I just honestly hope that they were not completely f-ed over.

    Although, I must add that I find it hard to believe that any town employee in Stratford does not have a political connection of some kind!!!”

    May I refer you to Mary Tiernan, Eileen Murphy, Elaine O’Keefe or Pat Naylor who can be properly classified as sacrificial lambs? We had far fewer politically connected/related employees two years ago.

    “I personally think that the entire “with cause” thing would leave the town more open to risk than the current system!”

    Sudds? Does your company have an employment policy? Grounds for dismissal? Will you come to work one day and find out someone didn’t like you and you were free to collect unemployment?

    “2) everyone new should know what’s going on if you take a job in this town… if you’re willing to accept the job under these terms then I wish you luck.”

    That doesn’t give you or I much hope that we will be paying for qualified employees.

    “and the town is probably better off without you!!!”
    It sounds like you and I are much worse off with political hacks that do take the job.

    “What if Donut-boy runs on a “I will skip my salary if elected” platform again and wins?”
    ROTFLMAO! Uh huh…Sudds? I have three things I want you to believe:

    1. The check is in the mail
    2. I’ll respect you in the morning
    3. I will skip my salary if elected

    Anything left?

  54. 54 sudds

    2. I’ll respect you in the morning… Never really a large concern of mine! 😛

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Jezzy me dear… I think you might need the forthcoming long weekend… you seem to be losing your edge!!! 😈

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    a. “Compared to the $1.25 Million/year we’ve spent…it’s a bargain! Plus, we’d probably get more work done.”

    But what about the “consulting attorneys” you yourself mentioned before? Are they going to work for free?

    b. “Sudds? Does your company have an employment policy? Grounds for dismissal? Will you come to work one day and find out someone didn’t like you and you were free to collect unemployment?”

    I am an “at will” employee in a small (i.e. one person) division of a small (employee count) company! I could theoretically (knock on wood) be out of a job before 5:00 tonight!!!

    c. “That doesn’t give you or I much hope that we will be paying for qualified employees.”

    Come on Jez… you’re an intelligent woman… you have GOT to realize that this is a sad fact with any government position! You seem to be well versed in the legal environment… so, just ask all of the U.S. attorneys that get fired every time there is a regime change in D.C. And do you REALLY think that Monica Lewinsky was the best intern of the group???

    d. “It sounds like you and I are much worse off with political hacks that do take the job.”

    Agreed, but that is the way that ALL of politics are in this country!!! I hear it helps if you just relax… because the governmental sodomy IS going to happen!!!

    At this point we should all just be glad that Wanamaker can’t be appointed to a town position now for at least 2 years after her term is over!!!

  55. 55 jezebel282

    Sudds,

    I am, after all, arguing with someone who has an MBA. I should be nice. Especially considering your handicap. (An 87 at Short Beach?)

    “But what about the “consulting attorneys” you yourself mentioned before? Are they going to work for free?”

    You have a budget and you work with it. Right, Mr. MBA? Some cases are cheaper to settle, it’s a fact of life. It’s not like now where we just hand Buturla a Town Check and hope there aren’t too many zeros.

    “I am an “at will” employee in a small (i.e. one person) division of a small (employee count) company!”

    But, but…you have an MBA!

    “you have GOT to realize that this is a sad fact with any government position!”

    Does it HAVE to be so? Can we not have qualified dedicated employees?

    “And do you REALLY think that Monica Lewinsky was the best intern of the group???”
    She obviously excelled at oral presentations.

    “Agreed, but that is the way that ALL of politics are in this country!!!”

    I do not agree. SOMEBODY thought up EZ Pass.

  56. 56 freedomofspeach

    “Do we actually know of a single attorney with a broad enough experience base to handle (with expertise) cases such as workers compensation, avco/superfund/pollution properties, remediation of asbestos cases, etc?’
    ‘If so, I would back you on this 100%, but otherwise I cannot see how we can possibly have just one attorney for everything! I think (due to their theoretical control of the budget) that the real controlling of costs should reside in the Council, no? (if they only approve a budget at $x per hour… then that is the rate we are offering)”

    The answer is no, nor does BM&D, close, but not all. There are other firms much better at certain things then what they have in their stable of lawyers.

    The idea of a town attorney or corporation council is to removed the small work that happens every day in town government from being billed at $150 plus. That is why Connecticut added an Attorney General to the State Constitution. They were sick of paying outside lawyers to do state work representing state agencies. Things like the simple land record opinions, the review of HR issues, some simple opinions of laws and regulations, and leases and contracts. Also the nuisance claims that towns and city’s get. It is not for complex litigation, large lawsuits, and extended litigation between government agencies, and it never was. It can be partially funded by tax foreclosure work that is usually done by a good paralegal, and is farmed out as gifts to locally connected law firms that make donations to the powers that be.

    Complex issues are managed by the town attorney/corporation council. He/she directs the litigation being handed by outside firms, develops lump sum service agreements, and above all keeps a rein on the runaway legal costs of outside council and experts.

    If you have that office, and you use historical budgeting to look at past litigation, as well as look at cap coverage from insurance companies or associations, then you might be able to budget the office, you will not be able to budget truly for contingencies related to punitive awards, and that’s what reserving from the risk manager and the town attorney should do. Now for the sad part. No one really knows what open litigation Miron will leave the town with as unfunded liabilities, and that is going to be an issue.

    ““But most importantly, we do not have the right of recall”
    “Umm… am I incorrect or wasn’t it determined that we canNOT have recall? Something to do with type of Charter that we have? Truth be told I didn’t dig too deeply into the whole legalese of the subject… so feel free to tee off on this one and yell at me!””
    No you do not. According to some OLR opinions any special act charter amended since 1969 (I think) is automatically a home rule charter. However I am sure Milford has amended theirs since then and apparently the town attorney says there is still a special act charter and has right of recall.

    I have stated here for a month, that it is impossible for your CRC to act on your charter if they do not know what type it is, and until a judge, the sec of state, or some other judicial person rules, then you only have the opinions of the wolfs in the hen house.

  57. 57 1george1

    “I have stated here for a month, that it is impossible for your CRC to act on your charter if they do not know what type it is, and until a judge, the sec of state, or some other judicial person rules, then you only have the opinions of the wolfs in the hen house.”

    Here I totally agree with Freedom of Speach.

    I was one of perhaps 20 speakers at the final C R C Public Hearing.
    > My initional focus was to include the CONCEPT of the 3 items that 26,000 out of
    28,000 REGISTERED VOTERS petitioned for, to be in the Charter.

    1. I think the 2 % Budget Cap was too easy to circumvent, so I favor REFERENDUM on BUDGETS of TOWN side; EDUCATION side; and BONDING. At the very least, put in some sort of mechanism to be able to have the RIGHT to do so, if 50 % of REGISTERED VOTERS are in favor of a BUDGET REFERNEDUM.

    2. TERM LIMITS in the Town Charter, maintained per 1991 REFERENDUM
    A) Make MAYOR’S TERM 2 years and keep all other TERMS to 2 years.
    B) Jamison Scott lasting just over 1 year, allowed FEEHAN to circumvent this.
    Town bought 2 refurbished FIRE TRUCKS from his company. Number 3 in 2009?

    3. PROHIBIT FINANCIAL SELF NTEREST, in the Town Charter, maintained per 1991 REFERENDUM.

    I made other points, then went back to the ISSUE of IF GRANDFATHERED RIGHTS
    were lost or STOLEN, then I believe ALL of the LAWYERS, CRC # 1 & # 2, and Town Councils were MALFEASANT. Not MIS or NON Feasant > MALFEASANT.

    I raised issues on Transparency throughout the Town finances and departments,
    but that may or may not be appropriate to a Town Charter, in the way I phrased it?

    However, the POINT made by FREEDOM of SPEACH is PARAMOUNT!

  58. 58 jezebel282

    George,

    Right now it’s not looking good. With less than two weeks to go the CRC has still not addressed an Independent Town Attorney, Hiring/Firing practices, or even term of office. Thank goodness the Council looks like it is ready to pass an anti-nepotism ordinance.

    Of course, even if they do it is up to the next Council to use these powers wisely.

  59. 59 sudds

    “With less than two weeks to go the CRC has still not addressed an Independent Town Attorney, Hiring/Firing practices, or even term of office”

    As stated previously…

    1) Independent Town Attorney = I do not think that this is the magic formula for saving money. We do not need the charter for this… what we need is to elect better “management” who doesn’t hand out blank checks to their friends. Oh yeah, and less people suing the town/legal issues would help too!

    2) Hiring/Firing practices = I sympathize with your friends/family… but it’s time to move on Sweety! “At-will” status is just the way the world works these days! How many people ready this are not “at-will” employees. The problem isn’t the system… the problem is how the system is being expoited!!!

    3) Term of office = I personally prefer the four year term. I’d rather see the mayor spend his time on town things versus his/her reelection campaign. Again… what we need is a better Mayoral selection, NOT a Lenin-esque Charter!

    Let’s face it… no matter what happens with the CRC2… the politico machines in this town are going to exploit the system! And by system I mean taxpayers!!!

    PS… since you want to tie Town Hall’s hands so much… perhaps we should try to have the CRC2 add a section about how many sheets of toilet paper town employees can use when wiping themselves!?!?!? There’s money savings to be found there ya know???

  60. 60 jezebel282

    Sudds,

    Now, now….no need to get all huffy.

    “1) Independent Town Attorney = I do not think that this is the magic formula for saving money.”

    There is no magic formula to save money, especially when attorneys are involved. It is however a question of ethics, efficiency and integrity. As the Charter reads now, the Town Attorney serves at the pleasure of the Mayor. That means the town attorney has one client…the mayor. Buturla has been Miron’s Chief Enabler. The real point is that the Town attorney represents the Town not the mayor. Any opinion rendered by an attorney that answers only to the mayor will be suspect. As it is now.

    Much damage has been done in the past two years to the Town Council, Town Attorney and mayor’s office. It is time to rebuild faith in our government. One way is to have an Independent Town Attorney. The only one who wins are the taxpayers/voters. We have reduced costs AND will have opinions we can trust.

    How many people ready this are not “at-will” employees. The problem isn’t the system… the problem is how the system is being expoited!!!

    Sudds, when you have an MBA you are retained in your position because you either save money or make money for your employer. Government positions are inherently different. At the salary level, putting in the extra hours does not save or make money for the Town in that they will see it in a quarterly bonus or a stock option. Stratford needs people with talent, dedication and expertise. That will not happen if they can lose their career based on a political whim.

    “3) Term of office = I personally prefer the four year term. I’d rather see the mayor spend his time on town things versus his/her reelection campaign. Again… what we need is a better Mayoral selection, NOT a Lenin-esque Charter!”

    I actually don’t care, although a requirement is that all other employment be given up to hold the office of mayor. That’s a lot to ask for a two year term. It reduces the candidate pool to retirees.

    Lenin-esque?

    “the politico machines in this town are going to exploit the system!”

    You should read David Blumstein’s and Pat Sperling’s comments in the Post. There are still citizens who believe honesty can happen. Even in Stratford.

    “PS… since you want to tie Town Hall’s hands so much”

    Who said that? I simply want a better government. The Council & this mayor have no problem tying their own hands.

  61. Sudds ~

    A couple of my “opinions” for what they are worth…..

    If we had a position of say “general counsel” as most large corporations do, the day to day items – such as employment agreements, lease agreements, etc. can all be handled in-house. We shouldn’t be paying $150 an hour to farm that out to an outside law firm. Outside law firms should be limited to the more complex problems/issues or lawsuits that arise within the Town. I can see a cost savings to the Town with this.

    Read any employee manual and it’s there – “at will” employees, I agree, it’s a mainstay. However, there should be some oversight so things like what Miron did don’t happen again. He’s cost the Town a great deal of money with CHRO complaints, etc. Think of even the legal fees incurred because of the way things were done by him. People don’t get fired just because (unless you were in Stratford). There’s always a plausible reason behind it.

    I agree 100% ~ the exploitation of the taxpayers and citizens of Stratford needs to cease, but if we have another flawed charter, no matter who is in office, be it Best, Costello or, God forbid, Miron, the vicious circle will continue.

  62. 62 jezebel282

    Sudds,

    A wise man once said:

    4 sudds on May 8, 2008 said: Edit Link

    Thank God Booth voted in fovor of the motion… or else I would have had to kick his _____!!!

  63. 63 sudds

    I understand where you’re coming from ladies, however…

    1) $150 per hour equals about $300k per year. I just don’t see how we can hire a general counsel, two aides, and all necessary taxes, supplies, utilities, publications, etc associate with them for under $300k!!! If I’m wrong, please let me know!!!

    And while I do agree on the town attorney serving the town and not the mayor… I think that the current system COULD work that way… again IF we choose good people!

    2) “Sudds, when you have an MBA you are retained in your position because you either save money or make money for your employer” –> not true… I retain my position because my employer chooses to employ me because they believe (suckers) that whatever I do is worth what they pay me!

    Again… I’ll agree that our system has been exploited, but I do not think that job protection is necessarily a good thing. Am I the only one who finds it a bit hypocritical that you want the power of recall (which could basically be done for any reason if you get enough votes/signatures), but you want protection for positions where your friends got fired from???

    3) “That’s a lot to ask for a two year term. It reduces the candidate pool to retirees.” –> God knows all of the retirees in town are bad enough on the roads!!!

    4) “I agree 100% ~ the exploitation of the taxpayers and citizens of Stratford needs to cease” –> EXACTLY!!! When did you schedule our pool game for Madam Mayor???

  64. 64 sudds

    “A wise man once said:”

    But I am much older and wiser now!!!

  65. Sudds ~

    There doesn’t seem to be any question in my mind that the cost of having an in-house general counsel, and perhaps one secretary and one paralegal would save money. Even if the counsel’s salary were $100K, the paralegal $65K and, if needed, a secretary $35K (totalling $300K). The cost of benefits are additional; however, wouldn’t outweigh the efficiency. It would also get rid of any monthly “stipends” which are currently paid to the Town Attorney and assistant town attorneys.

    A per hour price, when the issue necessitates the use of outside counsel, could also be negotiated. If they’re hungry enough, they’ll negotiate. If not, there’s always another lawyer. It’s not like there’s any shortage.

    In the outside town attorney scenario – we have the town attorney and his entire firm. One issue could have two attorneys researching (at $150 per hour); and the named Town Attorney billing the same time to render an opinion, or whatever it is.

  66. 66 jezebel282

    Sudds,

    “1) $150 per hour equals about $300k per year.”

    Amazing isn’t it? We pay $150/hour yet we are billed $600,000+.

    01104 6381 Legal Salaries & Fees $ 666,965

    http://stratfordct.qscend.com/filestorage/1302/1944/8853/A_FY_2009_-_01_104_-_Town_Attorney.pdf

    I’m sorry, what was the rest of your argument?

    “because they believe (suckers) that whatever I do is worth what they pay me!”

    Ladies & Gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case.

    “Am I the only one who finds it a bit hypocritical that you want the power of recall (which could basically be done for any reason if you get enough votes/signatures), but you want protection for positions where your friends got fired from???”

    I’m not sure where the reason & logic is there. Maybe the MBA was for accounting? First of all, I would think a recall would require a minimum of a majority vote of the electorate (no sleazy “plurality”). And that is after acquiring enough signatures on a petition. Any mayor that was recalled must have done a simply awful job. And it would take months. Obviously not a whim. The mayor would most certainly have the opportunity to make his case.

    On the other hand if you are a Town employee and brushed Miron the wrong way one day, you are gone. Good luck in court. It’ll only take years.

    “God knows all of the retirees in town are bad enough on the roads!!!”

    You are going to find your house covered in Depends this Halloween and your car covered in Ensure, Sudds.

    “But I am much older and wiser now!!!”

    I’m sure the former is true.

  67. 67 1george1

    Sudds, you wrote $ 150 per hours = $ 300,000 a year.

    Such a deal.
    However, if I could get your e-mail address, I could send you the
    Stratford 1099s to BURTURLA for
    2006 = $ 530,000 +
    2007 = $ 580,000 +

    Those are 1099s in his NAME. They are in PDF from the Town, due to FOI.

    Wednesday night, I learned

    Burturla does NOT charge for Secretarial work.
    hmmm?

    Burturla stated paralegals are less than the $ 150 per hour.
    hmmm?
    He did not give a specific number of per hour?
    hmmm?
    Makes me wonder if,….he really ever did so, but then that would make
    me into being cynical? 😉

    Burturla stated the Town pays him, Attorneys at his firm or any other firm
    a flat rate of $ 150 per hour, as of December 200? > QUID PRO QUO? DEAL or NO DEAL?
    Tim Bishop = ex-D-Assist Town Atorney, as one of 7 Dwarfs of 2001. Partner
    to Kevin Kelly (I forgot him)

    Burturla stated they have 318 FILES = Each CASE is a FILE.
    200 + CASES are open.
    90 % of all CASES are acts of DEFENDING the TOWN.
    10 % Tend to be Regulatory and Administrative ISSUES.

    Burturla had a few questions asked, mostly by Henrick & Moore.
    Kubic was not there, I THINK?? Neither was EMMA.

    While the T. C. did not kiss his ring or his -ss, he was basically given
    a FREE RIDE.

    The anti-nepotism act is too little, too late,
    too little > needs to be broader. Norm’s R are same putz,
    too late > all miron appointment are made.

    PCS

    You mention /insult Mayor candidates > Best / Dom / Miron.

    I did not make the list?
    I am not sure if it is a compliment, not to be insulted or
    an insult not to be listed (somewhere)? 🙂

  68. 68 jezebel282

    You read them in the Post:
    http://www.topix.net/forum/source/connecticut-post/TARVBDVCIUDFP3V1C#lastPost
    David Blumstein
    Bridgeport, CT

    6 hrs ago

    As you know, this process of Charter Revision was begun shortly after this Charter was enacted. The process gained momentum nearly a year ago when a non-partisan group of citizens petitioned for Charter Revision. The present administration tried to delay, disrupt and impede this process at every turn. I am proud to have been a part of that effort and will continue to believe that the Citizens of Stratford deserve the best government possible.

    Over 300 people whom I personally spoke to one at a time understand that the current Town government is essentially broken and desire change. It is unfortunate that the CRC meeting and public sessions have been poorly attended, but I believe this is due to a sense of helplessness and frustration not of lack of interest.

    However, I believe the future of Stratford’s prosperity is in your hands. You bear the responsibility of providing effective, efficient and fair government to the residents of Stratford. We have been burdened by nearly two decades of, frankly, political gang wars. It is up to you to put an end to this by removing politics from the operational portion of our government. We simply cannot afford to replace effective Town government at every mayoral election.

    I am asking tonight that you reconsider your recent vote against giving the Council oversight of hiring/firing practices in this Town. The citizens deserve effective government not subservient government. Many of these positions require State certification. Others require at least minimum of knowledge and experience. Political party connections do not meet these criteria. We deserve the work product we pay for.

    In order to provide efficient and effective government you must also eliminate the “at-will” status of Town employees. This does not imply lifetime positions. Terminations may occur for a number of reasons such as incompetence, insubordination, absenteeism or other factors. However, it does not mean someone can be terminated from their position simply because of a party affiliation or to make room for a friend or relative. Surely, we have had enough of that.

    The creation of an independent Town Attorney is just as critical. The Town Attorney represents all of Stratford and its citizens not a single person. Serving at the pleasure of a mayor, whether it is this mayor or any mayor does not benefit the Town in any way. Yet it has cost the taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars in the last two years. The Town Attorney should neither serve the council nor the mayor. The Town attorney serves the Town and its citizens.

    As of this hearing
    We still do not have an independent Town Attorney.
    We still have every department remaining subject to exclusively political appointments every four years.
    We still have every town employee remaining fearful of their jobs when they disagree.
    We still have lack of hiring/firing oversight.
    We still have a lack of financial oversight.

    Most of you have been appointed because of your political connections. Some may even have ambitions beyond the service on this Commission. But I am imploring you to consider only the well being of Stratford citizens. What you do here will affect citizens of Stratford for generations to come. You will decide if our Town will be a prosperous and efficient organization working for the benefit of its citizens or remain a dumping ground for political appointees and inside deals. You will decide here whether the Town of Stratford will move forward with its citizens or at odds against its own citizens. This one time I ask that you put aside your party loyalties and vote as a citizen and taxpayer.

    Patricia Clark Sperling
    Bridgeport, CT

    5 hrs ago

    David Blumstein is absolutely on-the-money. Why would anyone want to work for a Town where they could have a job one day, and, for no apparent reason, not have one the next. What we have seen is a Mayor who came in and “cleaned house” in accordance with his own agenda.

    Every employee – from the department heads on down works for the Town, not the Mayor, and must always do what is in the best interests of the taxpaying citizens. Miron has created a hostile working environment and an atmosphere where employees are afraid and uneasy – every day.

    I’ve said all along that the Minority Report which was authored by Jim Miron, along with others, clearly indicated what could happen: that good town employees – working in the bests interest of the town could be removed and replaced with mayoral loyalists, whether or not they had the qualifications for the job. I ask, what exactly has happened since he was mayor? Exactly how many unqualified loyalists now collect town paychecks?

    By allowing oversight by the Town Council, this kind of behavior will be more difficult. It will, at the very least, ensure that qualified candidates are not looked over as they have been. It will also ensure that employees are terminated “for cause,” not just because the mayor doesn’t like them or they don’t agree with him or his agenda.

  69. George ~ sorry, purely an oversight.

    Also, “Burturla stated paralegals are less than the $ 150 per hour. hmmm?”

    Hmmm is right. However, if it’s a negotiated $150 per hour, the paralegal billable rate is probably negotiated too. Is this $150 just for partners billing at a certain rate – say $375, then the adjusted billable rate decreases in accordance with a formula for associates, jr. associates and paralegals. Also, some firms do charge for secretarial overtime – just depends on the retainer agreement.

  70. 70 sudds

    Ummm… didn’t Mr. Blumstein state on the record that he is clearly NOT an unbiased opinion because one of his family members is one of those who got the axe???

    As such, then isn’t this similar to Jim Miron writing an editorial about how Dick is a such great guy and should therefore get accelerated rehab!?!?!?!

  71. 71 sudds

    Umm Jez… please allow me to quote someone very near and dear to my heart… YOU!!!

    “No. No one attorney can do that. Not even Rich Buturla. That’s what consulting attorneys are for.”

    So this is how I see it, please tell me where I am wrong:

    General Counsel, Paralegal & Asst Salaries $200,000
    Benefits, Taxes, etc 50,000
    Utilities, publications, research, etc 50,000

    Subtotal $300,000
    add: Consulting attorneys * 318,000

    Total $618,000

    Where are the phenomenal cost savings??? Oh wait… with these numbers my taxes MIGHT go down enough to buy a pack $0.25 chewing gum!!!

    * this is probably LOW… I based it upon George stating that there are 318 cases… at a cost per case (which is most likely low for legal representation) of only $1,000

  72. 72 freedomofspeach

    I think you can have an in house council, a paralegal, and a secretary (remember you pay one in addition to the budget now) with all the required equipment and such for under $400,000.00 per year, not including specialist and consulting attorneys, or settlements and costs. Right now you have no one watching to see that effective legal representation exists or managing the risk benefit to the town in mitigating damages. All you have is churning and burning the billing.

    This is why insurance companies have in-house people to watch and lead the outside lawyers. In addition, there comes a time to settle (a term all defense attorneys hate) as the money machine stops when the case ends. 300 plus cases? I wonder how many should have or could have been settled, and have cost more to defend, then just cutting the towns losses. Also, with the two federal cases pending, that brings up who should really be responsible for those costs. I know there is immunity, but think that if the political games that were played with the towing contract, were able to be pinned on the person who really caused the issues, and you were able to collect the cost incurred by the town as damages…..my lord what a dream!!!!

    What is the interest of BM&D? Is it to effectively manage the cases of the town, or is it to bill until the cows come home?

    Here’s a hint……….MOOOOOOOO.

  73. 73 jezebel282

    Sudds,

    “didn’t Mr. Blumstein state on the record that he is clearly NOT an unbiased opinion because one of his family members is one of those who got the axe???”

    The last time I looked, Mr. Blumstein never worked for the Town and his wife currently works for the Board of Ed. Just like Ben Branyan, Pat Naylor, Sue Nicholson and Tory Florek. I’m not sure how a family member getting fired also invalidates your First Amendment rights. But perhaps you can explain how that happens to:

    Ben Branyan
    Judy Heigel
    Pat Blumstein
    Al Dubois
    Elaine O’Keefe
    Mary Tiernan
    Eileen Murphey
    Diane Toolan
    Pat Naylor
    Sue Nicholson
    Brian Thomas
    John Carroll
    Steven Danzer
    Ken Kellogg
    Beth Stremple
    Patrice Sulik
    Len Buehler
    Kim Correia
    Diane Maurice

    “As such, then isn’t this similar to Jim Miron writing an editorial about how Dick is a such great guy and should therefore get accelerated rehab!?!?!?!”

    Sudds! I am very surprised at you. To the contrary, it is more like one of Dick Miron’s victims being told to shut up and sit down because they have a biased view of Miron’s ethics.

    “Where are the phenomenal cost savings??? Oh wait… with these numbers my taxes MIGHT go down enough to buy a pack $0.25 chewing gum!!!”

    I’m not sure why you are missing my main points here and focusing on cost savings, Sudds. You always seemed intelligent before.

    There is no magic formula to save money, especially when attorneys are involved. It is however a question of ethics, efficiency and integrity. As the Charter reads now, the Town Attorney serves at the pleasure of the Mayor. That means the town attorney has one client…the mayor. Buturla has been Miron’s Chief Enabler. The real point is that the Town attorney represents the Town not the mayor. Any opinion rendered by an attorney that answers only to the mayor will be suspect. As it is now.

    Much damage has been done in the past two years to the Town Council, Town Attorney and mayor’s office. It is time to rebuild faith in our government. One way is to have an Independent Town Attorney. The only one who wins are the taxpayers/voters.

    The POINT was that we need to remove politics (or at least as much as we can) from the day to day operation of the Town. Reviewing employment contracts, leases, tax liens, rental agreement, purchase contracts, zoning issues and titles are currently political gifts to an attorney that toes the line with absolutely zero oversight.

  74. 74 1george1

    Sudds,
    The number 318 Cases was repeated by Burturla, from a T C request.
    I am hard of hearing. I am certain I heard that correctly.
    However, I do NOT know the ABSOLUTE TRUTH?

    I believe I heard a number like 220 open cases.
    I believe MOOOO is the appropriate reaction.

    I believe you did the math of $ 150 per hour times 40 hour work week = $ 6000
    times 50 weeks a year = $ 300,000 for Attorney fees.

    Since the Town and Courts are closed a minimum of 13 DAYS a year, that
    would mean there are only 247 billable days. = 49.4 Weeks per year!

    Since the Clerks, police, public works, are on a40 hour work with minus
    1/2 lunch, wouldn’t that limit billable hours to 37 1/2 hours per work week?
    37.5 * $ 150 = $ 5 625

    $ 5 625 * 49.4 = $ 277 875

    If the Town Attorney takes no time off and works every day of the year,
    or 49.4 weeks a year and 37.5 hours per week, shouldn’t his 1099 max out
    @ $ 277,875

    How is it that Burturla’s 1099 from the town are
    2007 = $ 580,000 +
    2006 = $ 530,000 +

    Could it be that OLD HABBITS die hard, like DOUBLE BILLING? 😦
    $ 277 875 * 2 = $ 555 750

    Hmmmm…
    1 for me?
    1 for you?
    1 for me,
    1 for you,

    Yet, where does the extra money come from, after looking
    at the Budget of actual Town Payments?????

    Could I have been given the wrong 1099s?
    Or could the Town actual past numbers be incomplete or wrong?
    Maybe the 1099 includes the BoE?
    But there are still only so many hours a day / week / year?

    Maybe the 1099 includes kickbacks? 🙂

    The $ 675 a month stipend for after hours meetings coverage only
    adds $ 8,100 to $ 277,875 = $ 285,975
    for PERFECT ATTENDANCE / NO TIME OFF PER YEAR, PLUS COVERING
    the AFTER HOURS MEETINGS?

  75. 75 mikereynolds

    I was reading an article about Thursday’s CRC meeting in The Star today.

    I was intrigued by Mr. Burturla’s comments regarding why the Town Attorney position shouldn’t be made into a full time staff Corporation Counsel.

    Did anyone expect him to say anything to the contrary?

    Wouldn’t it have been better for the CRC to interview an attorney, one qualified to speak about being a Corporation Counsel, not being paid currently or in the past by Stratford?

    Doesn’t this sound like a conflict of interests? Would Mr. Buturla actually say, “You know what, the town would save money by getting rid of me and BMD and hiring a full time Corporation Counsel.”

    I’m not saying that having a Corporation Counsel is the right decision. All I’m saying is did the CRC have to interview someone with an actual financial stake in decision making process?

  76. 76 1george1

    Mike,

    I did not bother reading the Star.

    I agree ENTIRELY with your position.

    Their coverage of the C. R. C. has actually been OK, as the guy TOM makes
    a concerted effort to report what he hears. The problem is what he hears,
    are from people appointed / Rubber Stamped, by the Town Council, who the
    Town attorney seems to have disproportionate influence with many of the
    people on BOTH Town Political Committees, Town Councils (past/present/
    future) and C. R. C. # 1 & # 2.

  77. 77 jezebel282

    George,

    Maybe you can tell your friend Tom to go to http://www.stratfordcharter.wordpress.com ?

    He’ll certainly get a different point of view here.

  78. 78 1george1

    Tom is not my friend.

    I tend to learn more details on Town issues (unrelated to Miron family) from
    the Bard & Star than the Post.

    I have seen items about the Town Attorney opinions in the Star and Bard,
    but not the CT. POST, as it relates to recall, and other things.

  79. 79 jezebel282

    Tonight is the last Scheduled CRC2 meeting before the recommendations are submitted to the Council.

    The meeting is scheduled to start at 6PM in the Council Chambers. If at all possible you should try to attend.

    Nothing will affect the future of Stratford more than this Charter. Hopefully, the members will not succumb to the Town Committee pressures.

  80. Jeze ~

    I’m certainly going to try, but won’t be there until about 7:30ish.

  81. 81 1george1

    Jeze,

    Why not e-mail tom @ the Star, with your opinions and blog address?

  82. 82 jezebel282

    George,

    Umm…I think Fred Musante knew all about it.


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