This Time We Should Read It


Th CRC has posted it revisions to date. They have still left Town employees “at-will” and have not created an independent Town Attorney.

They have given the Council the power to block transfers between departments and the right of advice and consent of the Town Attorney.

The important thing to remember, unlike the last time, is that this is the charter we will vote on (hopefully) in November. Read it, understand it, talk about it.

Charter Revision


22 Responses to “This Time We Should Read It”

  1. 1 1george1

    I will oppose it, because I do not believe it reflects BEST PRACTICES
    of the GENERAL PUBLIC, both in C. R. C. decisions and pending issues.

    It already omitted / rejected priorities, I consider Major.

  2. 2 sudds

    George… granted the new version does not cover everything that these jamokes should have it cover, but the real question here is…

    is the proposed charter better than what we currently have???

    If you ask me… if it closes one loop-hole, or corrects even one oversite of CRC1… we should vote for it, no???

  3. 3 jezebel282


    If we have turnover of all employees every four years and a Town Attorney with a legal license to steal, at this point I can see no reason to vote for it.

  4. 4 sudds

    Valid points… but doesn’t the new Charter at least close one or two flaws/loopholes??

    Don’t get me wrong… I am NOT heaping praise upon the CRC2 (especially that Booth character… 😆 )… but isn’t a decrease in the governmental sodomy rates (as small as it may be) better than the current situation we are in???

  5. 5 jezebel282


    Only incrementally. Council approval of whoever gets to bill us $150/hour is hardly an improvement.

    The Council can block budget transfers by ordinance. If they had the guts.

    The Citizens are still in the same position as Blanche DuBois; depending upon the kindness of strangers. I am getting the feeling that some of the CRC members who are sock puppets are only giving the appearance of correcting this dysfunctional government.

  6. 6 sudds

    I realize I am not going to change your mind on this (and again I am NOT heaping praise upon the CRC2… in fact I think they are doing an AWFUL job), but since my wife says I’m as thick-headed as they come I’ll give it one last try…

    Quite simply… do you think that it’s better to reject the incremental changes because it is not 100% what we want?

    Granted I realize that this is EXACTLY what the sock-puppets on the CRC2 want us to do/think, but unfortunately (like every other political decision in this town) they got us over a barrel!!!

  7. 7 1george1


    Would you buy a case of YUCK BEER because the price is CHEAP?

    Would you choose a JUNK over getting something that is good for you
    and the same of lower long term cost?

    Last C. R. C. I thought we had better people on it than I later found out,
    although I had my suspicions.
    It has become clear that Norm & Burturla have their fingers in too many
    pies, in my opinion, and have both parties drinking UNCOOL AID.

    Given the choice of pleading guilty to an untrue charge and getting
    A) Time in Jail
    B) Probation
    C) Suspended sentence
    D) Accelorated Rehabilitation
    E) Fighting the charge, because it is a LIE –
    and/or, it can lay foundation for bigger charges and bigger

    Which do you choose?

    Would you take a job, where you were being told in advance that your
    pay will continually go down, you would have to work longer hours, and
    have less benefits, with poorer working conditions OR would you prefer
    a good job, pay, hours, benefits, conditions where the only concessions
    necessary would be towards mutually beneficial long term viability of the
    company and your opportunity?

    The Revised Charter is bad and does not address the key issues.
    The new Revised Charter might be much better written, and even better,
    but what good is it if it guarantees PARTY ABUSE and control by the few,
    picking the pockets of the many?

    Florek might be jolly, but he is still taking money from Burturla & Miron,
    which I think is at least partially true of a few members of the CRC.

    Without any kind of protections on Grandfathered rights and/or any
    options and qualifications towards forms of those items ratified by the
    1991 REFERENDUMS and the direction of same – > the C R C does not fly.

  8. 8 jezebel282


    The Town Committees have had us over that same barrel for 15 years. Frankly, I’m getting a little tired of it.

    Are you listening Mr. Proto, Orlowe, August, Fredette and Ms. McMellon? Ask Jim Miron how much this blog has done for him.

  9. 9 gforrester

    The Council can block budget transfers by ordinance. If they had the guts.

    Jez your 100% correct – and I don’t believe that the Council accepted the transfers last year – but if you look at the Charter what’s the recourse if the Council denies a transfer. All it does is leave one line in the Red.

  10. 10 jezebel282

    Mr. Forrester,

    Budget transfers negate a basic power of the Council. The right to determine the budget. You know that, I know that, the voters now know that. Budget transfers (especially under this administration) are simply an accounting version of burglary tools.

    Yet another weakness of the current charter that the CRC is not addressing.

  11. 11 sudds

    Let me get this straight…

    If the mayor chooses to he can shift the entire town budget into his travel & entertainment line…

    …and there is NOTHING anyone can do about it…

    …and the CRC2 isn’t doing anythign about it???

  12. 12 jezebel282


    Pretty much.

    If anyone objects he has to get Alvin ONeal, Emma Brooks, Amy Wanamaker, Gavin Forrester and one more to back the transfer. (The Mayor gets to break a tie. He must really miss Bob Camillo)

    That’s only if anyone objects. If the Council just does nothing, it’s “Hello Aruba? Can I get a tee time?”

    CRC2? You know anyone on the CRC, Sudds?

  13. 13 sudds

    Yes I do! And my sock-puppet (take that Forrester & Best… lol) is actually doing a fairly decent job in his voting. Unfortunately he’s only one vote among many though!!!

    PS… in full disclosure he’s not really my sock-puppet, in fact we don’t talk about the CRC!

  14. 14 jezebel282


    Maybe you should start.

  15. 15 1george1

    Thursday night is the FINAL PUBLIC HEARING.

    The Mayor is also having a FUND RAISER, a little earlier.
    Maybe we will have a parade of items to consider?

    I am not happy with the CRC.
    I like some of the people, as people, BUT….

  16. 16 jezebel282

    Here is their Final draft. Notice the corrected spelling and different font. You may also notice that the Commission believes that the Citizens of Stratford really want political appointments to run this town forever.

    Final Draft Charter

  17. 17 1george1

    George’s opinion:
    The U. S. Federal and State Governments have Constitutions as foundations for rules and law. Stratford and other Municipalities have Town/City Charters. These give framework to our Republic of Democratic populist, representative, governments predicated on both enlightened self interest and “just consent of the governed.” These are anti-theoretical and diametric to the “INALIENABLE RIGHTS” concept.

    The term inalienable rights (or unalienable rights) refers to a theoretical set of individual human rights that by their nature cannot be taken away, violated, or transferred from one person to another. They are considered more fundamental than alienable rights, such as rights in a specific piece of property. Inalienable (Individual) Rights are: natural rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They are the most fundamental set of human rights, natural means not-granted nor conditional. They are applicable only to humans, as the basic necessity of their survival.

    Stratford Town Attorney Burturla has opinioned Stratford does NOT have a Revised Town Charter, but a NEW Town Charter, causing Grandfathered Rights to be lost or endangered.

    I would like the following to be included in a Revised Town Charter:

    1) Absolute protection of Grandfathered Rights, from the Council / Manager Town Charter. This would be done by including INTENT of this Town Council and this Charter Revision Commission and the first Charter Revision Commission and that Town Council, into the end of the Town Charter to be voted upon!

    2) Incorporation of the concepts and purview of the 1991 petitioners on Term Limit; Prohibit Financial Self Interest, and instead of 2 % Budget Cap, allowance for Tripartite Budget Referendum involving: Town side – Education side – Bonding issues.

    3) Creation of a Town Attorney position that is Full Time and put out to bid on a 5 year cycle, with a staff of Part Time / Stipended (only) Assistant Town Attorneys, and part time secretarial / paralegal staff.
    > By Charter, the Full Time Town Attorney would represent the Constitutions of the USA & CT, and all of the legal laws, regulations, rules, codes, and ordinances, along with the whole Tax Payers/Citizens above the Mayor / Town Council / Party committees, etc. Designated Assistant Town Attorneys would serve at the direction of the Departments / Bodies and can render independent opinions, however the Full Time Town Attorney would serve as the FINAL TOWN ARBITOR of decisions on Legal Opinions. > Town Attorney and Town Council may hire / use part time Town Attorneys for Special needs at flat rates.

    4) Creation of a paid Assistant or Vice Mayor, to replace the C. A. O. and act as C. O. O. who would be on an elected ticket, jointly with the Mayoral Candidates. Solves succession question, with definition.

    5) Creation of an unpaid Councilman-at-Large, who would head the Town Council, with full voting rights and replace the Mayor, who would be taken out of the Legislative and Financing decision process.

    6) Mandating Public Forums for all regular meetings, special meetings, and Public Hearings of the Town Council, Bored of Edukation, Zoning, and all subcommittees.
    A) 5 minutes per speak prior to the major meetings; 3 minute Adendum available at meeting end;
    B) 1 minute per speaker, recognized by committee chair, at the end of each part of a meeting, like:
    1. Old Business; New Business, etc.

    7) 100 % Web based Transparancy in ALL: Town / Education Meetings of Treasury; Appointments / Promotions / Bidding process / Contract Awards / Change Orders / Monthly department spending / Job Description per Departmental position / Budget Line Items, with linked explanations / MORE

  18. 18 1george1

    In case this 281 word letter to the editor does not get printed:

    June 3, 2008

    Stratford Bard, Letter to the Editor
    Stratford Star, Letter to the Editor
    CT. POST, Letter to the Editor

    Ref: Stratford Town Charter: Revised or Whole new?

    George Mulligan
    429 Housatonic Avenue
    Stratford, CT. 06615
    (203) 378-1888

    Dear Editor:

    The Stratford Town Attorney, Richard Burturla issued an opinion to the Charter Revision Commission that due to certain circumstances, Stratford has a WHOLE NEW TOWN CHARTER?

    The Town Attorney’s opinion was the People’s Right to Recall Town Councilors has been lost. And in the same opinion, the Town Attorney opined that if challenged in court, the RIGHTS to petition and referendum might be ruled in violation, because he believes there is a change of “which” CT STATE ACT is the basis for the Stratford Town Charter legality?

    I believe this Town Charter opinion, is like eliminating the Amendments from the U. S. Constitution.

    I believe this is like forcing people to give up their RIGHTS of Checks and Balances, to give the Power of Attorney to the Democratic and Republican Party bosses, and to Town Council and Mayor. Do you Trust the political parties and government to represent YOUR RIGHTS or THEIR INTERESTS?

    This opinion raises several questions. Like:

    If those Rights of the People are lost, how can they be recovered, quickly and without costly court fight?

    Since there are 2 Charter Revision Commissions and a Charter Revision vote, has malpractice or fraud been perpetrated on an unsuspecting public?

    Who is or are liable: Town Attorneys; Town Managers/Mayor; Town Councils; Political Parties?

    If part of the Town Charter is illegal, does that mean the whole Town Charter is illegal (similar to the throwing out of a conviction based on tainted evidence or law application?)

    If the Town Charter is illegal than have all of the Acts of the Mayor, Town Attorney, and others also been Illegal and non binding, ….
    such as 9 Pensions which averaged over $ 84,000 this January?

  19. 19 sudds

    “You may also notice that the Commission believes that the Citizens of Stratford really want political appointments to run this town forever.”

    Was there EVER any doubt of this? Did we not realize as soon as the CRC2 members were chosen that maintaining the status quo was priority one for these APPOINTEES?

    We basically had politicians setting rules for themselves… and you expected them to tighten the reigns?

    wait for it…

    wait for it…


  20. 20 jezebel282


    I guess politicians use a parallel language.

    Strong mayor = Political appointments.

  21. 21 sudds

    I’d say it’s more like..

    Strong mayor = POWER (that none of us serf-like taxpayers can do anything about)

  22. 22 1george1

    If you like quotes about POWER & STRONG GOVERNMENT, why not google
    this schicklgruber guy. He and some of his party harty smarty farty are not
    much different, philosophically than certain TOWN D & R?

    Sudds & Jeze agree with my positions on abuse of discretion?
    Actually they have given me props in the past.

    Now, will this get published? The star has a slightly abreviated version.
    The Bard is the most likely to Publish. Occasionally the post surprizes?

    I am holding my breath for Mike Reyolds critique on my LTTE.
    Having a blog adversary is fun. Mike really can’t be as insensitive as…

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