Hollywood East? This Should Go Well….

27Sep09
The Natera's New Property

The Natera's New Property

You read it in the Post:

Two homeowners behind some of the biggest blight problems
Inability to find homeowners limits options in fighting back

By Keila Torres
STAFF WRITER

The Natera family is known throughout the region.

In March 2008, the Federal Bureau of Investigation raided the Boston Avenue offices of Hector Natera’s mortgage-company, Invernat, LLC. A federal grand jury has been investigating that matter, but no charges have been brought.

Hector is also known as half of Hollywood East, a development team that includes his brother Ed Natera and which has developed plans to build a multimedia production complex on the former Army engine plant in Stratford.

Their mother, meanwhile, is known for owning two of the worst blight properties in Bridgeport.

A trustee for Virginia Natera is listed on the Tax Assessor’s Web site as the property owner of the now-empty lot at 563-569 Stillman St. The site has been on the blight list since April 2008.

Another property, at 273-279 West Ave., was placed on the blight list in October 2008, shortly after it caught fire and collapsed. It is owned by SJM Associates LLC, which according to the Secretary of the State’s Web site is Virginia Natera’s company.

The large three-family house that once stood on the site, at the corner of West Avenue and West Liberty Street, is now a pile of burnt rubble. Several mattresses, large garbage bags, old furniture and debris have been dumped on top of the blackened wood that once made up the house’s walls and roof.

Ed and Hector Natera could not be reached, and several messages left for her real-estate agent son, Sergio, were not returned.

No contact information could be found for Virginia Natera. Fairfield attorney Samuel L. Braunstein, listed as the agent for SJM Associates, said his client no longer lives in the country. “I haven’t heard from them [the Nateras] in years. The mom, I think, is the [property] owner. And, I think, she has moved to Mexico City. That’s the last I heard,” he said.

Luis Echeverria, who rents an apartment in a house several streets away from the West Avenue site, said the house was being repaired when it burned and collapsed last fall.

“It was like a bomb,” he said, in Spanish. “It fell in five minutes. And thank God there wasn’t a breeze that day because the house next door could have burned down, too.” Echeverria said the heat from the inferno could be felt all the way down the street.

Ronald Freeman, whose West Liberty Street house borders the rear of the West Avenue lot, said he couldn’t believe the property was not cleaned up after the fire.

“It looks raggedy,” he said. “It shows they don’t care about the neighborhood and they’re just going to let it sit there like that. I feel it brings down the value of the neighborhood.”

The two properties, which were both owned by Invernat before being transferred to Virginia Natera’s name, are also on the city’s condemnation list.

The house on Stillman Street, destroyed by fire several years ago, posed such a threat to the East Side neighborhood that the Condemnation Board ordered the house demolished. In late June, with a group of neighborhood residents cheering them on, a demolition company tore down the house.

The city has since placed a $46,808.50 lien on the property for the cost of the demolition. If the West Avenue debris is not cleaned up by the owner, the city will do the cleanup and a lien for the cleanup costs would also be placed on the property.

For those readers unfamiliar with the ongoing saga of the closed Stratford Army Engine Plant and the General Services Administration awarding the winning bid to Hollywood East, The Natera’s are the owners of Hollywood East.

We are going to leave it to our readers to figure out the chances of the success of this project.

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126 Responses to “Hollywood East? This Should Go Well….”

  1. 1 ronmoreau

    To all,

    It’s interesting to note, on the photo above, that all 3 parking lots are full. My guess this photo was taken in the 60’s.

    I believe AVCO was one of the, if not the, largest tax payers in Stratford.

    It’s sad that the Army contaminated this property for most of the 20 century and has done NOTHING to clean it up.

    To compound the situation, the Army then turns over the property to questionable individuals that are under investigation by the FBI. (I know…..innocent until proven guilty.)

    Until the Army (The US government) takes an serious interest in this property it will be vacant for years to come.

    From the largest tax payer in the town of Stratford ….

    …to the largest BLIGHT property in town.

    SHAMEFULL

  2. 2 jezebel282

    Ron,

    Let’s not forget the “contributions” of Debbie Rose, Norm Aldrich, Chuck Willinger et al…..

  3. 3 ronmoreau

    Not to mention that the Army is giving a ‘chunk ‘of the cleanest part of the AVCO property to the airport.

    A nontaxable entity.

    Sticking it to Stratfords resendents one more time.

  4. 4 1george1

    I believe SIKORSKY was Tax Payer # 1 with AVCO as # 2.
    Maybe AVCO was # 1, after Viet War?

    I was told it peaked @ 12,000 jobs and sikorsky peaked at 14,000 jobs.
    Where have Rell, Bush, Lieberman, Dodd, DeLauro, Congress delegation,
    State House and Senate been for AVCO?
    They were all over saving New London’s 10,500 jobs (according to WTHN)

    By keeping AVCO and SIKORSKY closed;
    By BRIBING RANKING POLICE / FIRE / PW – DEPT HEADS – Town Managers;
    By blowing PENSION INVESTMENT
    By blowing MANDATE FUNDING
    By blowing RAYMARK cleanup – destroying area and town Property Values

    It killed the TAX BASE, allowing KEY AREAS of BRIDGEPORT and STRATFORD
    to be bought up by the LAWYERS and DEVELOPERS at DISTRESSED PRICES.

    I think the Genovese, Gambino, Luchese, Columbo, Bonano, Patriacha…..

    For more conspiracy theory go to: https://stratfordcharter.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/george-mulligan-for-mayor/#comment-7831

  5. 5 ronmoreau

    The Army,along with a couple private companys, produced an aircraft that was insrumental in winning the war in the pacific.

    Also produced several gas turban jet engines,one being the AGT 1500 that powers one the most powerful weapons in the Army arsenaul today,the M1A1 battle tank.

    The Army allowed these companys to contaminate this property and now just walks away.

    A nice thanks to the generations of area residents that contributed to the preservation and safety of our way of life.

  6. 6 1george1

    The Republicans and Democrats gave nominal relief to Vets and Seniors.
    Meanwhile the PENSIONS ….
    The Attorney FEES …
    The AVCO preferred vender
    The SHAKESPEARE contract
    The RAYMARK TOXINS
    NO CONSPIRACIES by otherwise competent business people and officials.

  7. 7 ronmoreau

    George,

    You forgot the question mark at the end of your last question.

  8. 8 1george1

    Ron,
    Maybe it is a question.

    Maybe it is a simple statement of fact.

    We know I never use sarcasm, irony, or insinuation, although
    I try to be factual and truthful.

    Maybe I was testing Jeze’s temptation to move?
    Or teasing?

    Ron,
    Were you questioning if there was or were:
    Conspiracies?
    Competent?
    People?

    Or from another post, maybe I believe people who are PATRIOTIC
    but otherwise flawed, were suckered and entrapped?

  9. 9 ronmoreau

    George,

    Sometimes it’s just better to just ask a question and let people thinking about it.

  10. 10 ronmoreau

    example,

    …..(And there are ) NO CONSPIRACIES by otherwise competent business people and officials.(?)

  11. 11 1george1

    Ron,
    You are correct in your position, unless

    one is writing to the choir
    one is writing to conspirators
    one is writing to dense or naive people
    one is writing to people with vested interest to support those who
    lie, cheat, and steal.

    I suspect we have a few of each who read this.

    However, there are other advantages to writing as a question, aren’t there?

  12. 12 sudds

    “Sometimes it’s just better to just ask a question and let people THINKING(?) about it.”

    hahahahahahahahahahahahaha… 😆

    sorry Mr. Moreau… but when correcting someone’s context… one should REALLY make sure that they are using proper grammar!!! 😆

  13. 13 ronmoreau

    Sudds,
    “Sometimes it’s just better to just ask a question and get people thinking about it.”

    Is that better?

  14. 14 1george1

    Ron,

    Spelling and grammar does not count on the blog. 😦

    Neither does subjective perspective about relevance. 😉

    If you believe any readers, who type, will give a free pass to anyone
    who does not fit into their myopia or hegemonistic priorities, then
    you might also believe in the Harkin’s spin control fairy? 😉

    There were some pretentious jerks like FOS, who was obviously a
    local lawyer, pretending to be things he was not.
    He pinned my ears back on specifics in law, but I busted his butt
    and destroyed his arguments, just as I have done with most of the
    LYING JERKS who try to BULLY their positions,

    Sudds is a wiseguy, who although intelligent, limits useful comments,
    and chooses anal cavity perspectives and comments.

    Unlike many bloggers, I liked FRED MUSANTE.
    However, I caught one of FRED’s columns using a dangling participle.
    Another time, I caught FRED incorrectly using a pluperfect subjunctive.

    FRED took my criticism seriously, when I was having harmless fun.

    So, Ron, when Sudds makes a critique from his sniper positions, ask him
    to make a real contribution to the dialogue and to the community?

    The few times Sudds’ mug offers sober suggestions, he can be insightful,
    instead of his norm of pretentious or clownish: yorick-falstaff, spiteful. 😉

  15. 15 ronmoreau

    Sudds,

    Yea!. What George said.LOL.

  16. 16 jezebel282

    Maybe if George would stop using “I” and “me” as often, his posts would only be half as long.

  17. 17 1george1

    The word “I” was used 6 times in post # 14.
    One use of “me.”
    About 210 total words divided by 7 or 1 out of every 30 words = 3.3%

    Of those, the word “I” was used 3 times, related to Fred Musante post.

    Mr. Musante showed far more journalistic integrity than Mr. Weizel has
    done from a subjective perspective.

    Conversely, Jeze as writen diametric subjective perspectives.

    Martin Luther: “It all depends whose ox is gored.”

  18. 18 jezebel282

    Kevin Kelly, Chuck Willinger, Barry Knott, Rich Buturla, John Florek.

    Are these guys the only attorneys in Stratford? Can’t we just throw our wallets/purses on a table and let them fight over them? It would be a lot quicker.

    Water Pollution Control Authority hires attorney for engine plant suit

    Written by John Kovach
    Friday, 02 October 2009 04:53

    The Water Pollution Control Authority wants a say in pending litigation involving the former Army Engine Plant.

    The independent agency, made up of Town Council members, voted 8-1 Monday to hire Bishop, Jackson & Kelly to represent it in litigation involving claims by the City of Bridgeport for property at the former engine plant that it wants to incorporate into Sikorsky Memorial Airport.

    Emma Brooks (D-4th) dissented.

    “There’s a lot going on at the Army Engine Plant we don’t know about. The WPCA and Town of Stratford have to get a seat at the table,” said Councilman Joseph Kubic (R-9th), who made the motion Monday to hire the attorneys.

    “If we’re such an important party,” Kubic said Tuesday, “why aren’t we involved? I don’t understand why the town isn’t.”

    Michael Julian (R-1st), chairman of the Water Pollution Control Authority, Monday called it “prudent” to be involved in any legal proceedings, and said it was “beyond his comprehension” that the town was not represented.

    State Rep. John Harkins, the Republican mayoral candidate, raised the question in similar language during Tuesday night’s Protect Your Environment Candidates Night.

    “It’s obvious they don’t understand the issues,” Mayor James R. Miron said Tuesday afternoon, adding he could discuss them with the authority in executive session.

    Bishop, Jackson & Kelly was chosen because former Town Attorney Kevin C. Kelly is familiar with the issues surrounding the Army Engine Plant, “and time is of the essence here,” Kubic said.

    Plans to turn the site into a movie studio remain tied up in court.

    In April, on the eve of the sale of the plant closing from the U.S. Army to Hollywood East/Area 51, Bridgeport filed suit, seeking more than one acre of Army Engine Plant property to incorporate into Sikorsky Memorial Airport.

    Bridgeport contends that the land was promised by the Army and is needed to improve airport safety.

    In a July letter to the Water Pollution Control Authority, Attorney Charles J. Willinger of Willinger, Willinger & Bucci, representing the studio developer, requested a special meeting with the group regarding the case.

    Willinger wrote that a draft settlement would require an easement from Stratford and connection into a sewer main. The settlement is contingent on Stratford waiving the standard sewer connection fee.

    Willinger wrote that the area to be served by the new sewer connection would enhance use of the property occupied by Atlantic Aviation, leased from Bridgeport, and that the four hangars on the site would not increase sewer usage.

    Miron, Town Engineer John Casey and Town Attorney Richard Buturla were copied on the letter, according to a copy obtained by the Star.

    I hope they deliver the Star in Mexico. That is the last known location for the Nateras.

  19. 19 1george1

    Yo Jeze,
    I have been e-mailing Attorney information to the CT. POST & STAR,
    including Tuesday. where I pointed out this situation to Mr. Kovach
    and Mr. Weisel.

    I know they were both taking notes.

    I had several calls about the story in the STAR and my handouts to PYE
    which featured 2008-2009 money paid to about 10 Law firms, for over
    $ 1.118 Million
    Berchem, Moses, Moses led way with over $ 620 k
    Jackson, Kelly, Bishop was over $ 154 k
    Florek n O’neill were about $ 44 + k
    Kent was over $ 40 k, if I remember correctly?

    Robinson n Cole came in # 3

    Before Kelly became involved, in 1998 total fees were $ 222 k
    The Kelly n Cabral n Schirillo Special July 4 week meeting
    raised from $ 60 to $ 125 per hour, despite
    2 % Budget Cap
    Prohibition of financial self interests.

    $ 222 k > $ 1.118 m is over 500 % + increase in 10 years attorney fees
    $ 3 million (average 1990 to 1995 to $ 17.4 million is over 500 + %
    increase in 14 years in pension obligations

    Mean while

    What happened to most people’s
    Wages?
    Social Securities?

  20. 20 jezebel282

    Let the lawsuits begin!

    Army Engine Plant sale gets green light
    By Michael P. Mayko
    STAFF WRITER
    Updated: 10/05/2009 10:44:34 PM EDT

    NEW HAVEN — A federal judge gave the green light Monday for the sale of the Army Engine Plant to Hollywood East and the transfer of a nearby acre of land to Bridgeport and the Federal Aviation Administration for the extension of a safety zone at Sikorsky Memorial Airport.

    Senior U.S. District Judge Charles S. Haight Jr. lifted his April-imposed stays and denied what some say was a desperate political attempt by Stratford Republicans to throw a wrench into the impending sale. That attempt surfaced in the form of a motion to intervene filed by Kevin Kelly and Garrett A. Denniston on behalf of the Stratford Water Pollution Control Authority, which claims a portion of their sanitary sewer system would be rendered inaccessible if Bridgeport receives the acre.

    Stratford Mayor James Miron agreed the effort was “without question a political attempt by (Stratford’s) Republican leadership to obstruct the progress we have made at all costs. Thankfully, it didn’t work.” Progress? Expanding the airport, giving the City of Bridgeport free water and sewer lines?

    Miron called the judge’s ruling and impending sale “a tremendous victory for the town and the region because it will put a property that has been off the tax rolls for the last dozen years back on the tax rolls and create jobs for many people.” Are you kidding me? You think you’re going to collect taxes from the Nateras?

    Neither Kelly or Denniston appeared at Monday’s hearing.

    Haight said he called their office and was told they were never notified of the session.

    “That’s a little puzzling to me,” the judge said. “Arrangements should have been made by them to secure communications.”

    Bridgeport officials countered with some legal strategy of their own to stave off the attempt by withdrawing their suit against the Army just hours before the hearing.

    Deputy Bridgeport City Attorney Arthur Laske convinced Haight that once a case is withdrawn and no timely request for intervention was filed, the motion should not be granted.

    Laske also pointed out that it was up to Stratford, and not the WPCA on its own, to file the intervention request.

    Following the session, Charles J. Willinger Jr., who with Thomas W. Bucci Sr. represents Hollywood East/Area 51, met with lawyers for the U.S. Army and Bridgeport Air Services for about two and a half hours. The session ended around 6:15 p.m. with no closing papers signed. Hollywood East/Area 51 proposes to build a movie production center and digital imaging studio on the site.

    The stumbling block to the final closing is who will pay for sewage services and water for fire suppression to Bridgeport Air Services, also known as Air Atlantic. Presently, the Army supplies those utilities to Bridgeport Air Services, which houses $300 million in aircraft in two hangars near the Army Engine Plant. Without the 4,000-gallon water tank, three pumping systems and pipeline, a jet fuel fire could be a disaster, the company claims.

    Alison McKay, a lawyer for Bridgeport Air Services, urged the judge to keep the stay in place until the utility issue is resolved.

    But Haight sided with Willinger’s suggestion that the two sides continue to negotiate this aspect after the sale is completed. Willinger told the judge Hollywood East would provide at least 10 days notice to Bridgeport Air Services, should it decide to turn off the utilities.

    Willinger said a closing is “imminent” and Hollywood East has a “commitment for funding” the project.

    “Stratford is poised to have the largest real estate development in the state of Connecticut and a business on that real estate which will result in substantial revenues to the town,” Willinger said. Like you care what happens to Stratford?

    He said his client is on the verge of announcing “a very active additional partnership which brings to the table great contacts in the motion picture and digital media industry.” Maybe they’ll get Mel Gibson to perform?

    The 1.07 acres Bridgeport wants will be transferred first to the FAA. That agency could, as early as next year, begin building the runway safety zone at Sikorsky Aircraft, which requires a portion of Main Street to be rerouted. Once the zone is completed, ownership will be transferred to Bridgeport. Here we go….watch property values dive.

    Bridgeport City Attorney Mark Anastasi said the property transfer “is in no way about development” at the airport but only about the “creation of a safety zone — that has been (Bridgeport) Mayor (Bill) Finch’s priority from Day 1.” And you’ll call us in the morning, right?

    In June, a chartered jet carrying six passengers skidded into a fence bordering the Main Street end of the runway where the safety zone would be increased by the extra acre. None of the passengers were injured. However, a similar crash in 1994 killed eight people. Oh please, stop already.

    This ought to be great. The lies and misrepresentations have already started.

  21. 21 1george1

    He said his client is on the verge of announcing
    “a very active additional partnership which brings to the table
    great contacts in the motion picture and digital media industry.”

    As I have been blogging and wrting in Letters to the Editor
    WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE REAL DEVLOPER of AVCO or
    SHAKESPEARE THEATER

    EVERTHING IS ON A TIMETABLE.

  22. 22 1george1

    Yo Jeze,

    On Berchem’s Website they had a company as 3rd party Administrator
    or Lawyer or something called
    “SNIDE MULLIGAN”

    It was the law firms partners’ actual names.

    Almost as good as Obama calling his dog “Bo”

    Let te headline read “Bo Obama”
    or in ee cummings world “bo ob a.m.a.”
    I wonder what their attending physicians think?

  23. 23 1george1

    Jeze,
    I love your SNIDE commentary on the above CT. POST.

    No props for me pointing it out to you this am?
    Nah ,,, you definitely would not have missed this one!

    Miron will be taking all the credit.
    He actually deserves some.

    However, it has taken me pointing out the obvious at PYE
    and in letters about what has been hiding in plain site, for
    the politicians to act!

    I suspect Rell, Dodd, DeLauro, Lieberman, & Blumenthal appreciate
    the attention and credit I gave them for doing NOTHING…. 🙂

  24. 24 jezebel282

    George,

    “I love your SNIDE commentary on the above CT. POST.”

    Snide?

    Moi?

    Miron will take credit for anything and blame for nothing. We all know that.

  25. 26 jezebel282

    Update:

    You read it in the Star:

    Roadblock to Engine Plant sale removed

    Written by John Kovach
    Thursday, 08 October 2009 09:07

    “Bridgeport has withdrawn a lawsuit blocking the sale of the former Stratford Army Engine Plant, opening the way for the transfer of the property to a studio developer. An acre of land sought by the city will be added to Sikorsky Memorial Airport.

    Attorney Arthur Laske said Bridgeport unilaterally withdrew its suit Monday once it was assured of the transfer of 1.07 acres for the airport.

    Mayor James R. Miron Tuesday called the attempt by the Water Pollution Control Authority “ill-advised” and a partisan attempt to stall the sale with a municipal election looming Nov. 3.”

    So here we have Mayor Moron complaining about an attempt to save Stratford land from Bridgeport?

    This makes Mayor Moron the only elected Stratford official in living memory to actually assist in Bridgeport’s efforts to expand the airport.

    It is under this mayor’s watch that not only have we lost the battle to keep the airport from expanding, we have lost more land, lost more revenues from sewer usage and will have the Nateras to deal with for the next 20 or so years. Great job, Jimmy!

    You have earned the loss of every single vote in the second district and Lordship.

  26. 27 ronmoreau

    …And there are NO CONSPIRACIES by otherwise competent business people and officials?

  27. 28 1george1

    Ron,
    where did I read that quote?
    was that by some intellectual?
    was it by a conspiracy nut job?

  28. 29 ronmoreau

    George,

    My apologies for not crediting you.

    I just put it in the form of a question.

  29. 30 1george1

    Ron
    No problemo.
    Are you a (wannabee) jeopardy player?

  30. 31 1george1

    It is sure odd on this blog,
    where people (except Jeze) kinda stopped contesting my theories
    and actually agree with some? 😉

  31. 32 jezebel282

    George,

    I’m still trying to figure out what a Planning Commissioner does….

  32. 33 1george1

    Plannig?
    I think they take credit for other peoples’ ideas and milk them
    into 10 -15 year projects, which are never implemented?

    Kinda like what the EPA did with RAYMARK ….
    $ 220,000,000 for a parking lot with a few wells and monitors?

    And they spent over $ 1,000,000 on basement vents / alarms
    for 110 families due to VOCs, thanks to the RAC and my being
    stupid with questions to the Town Council about “toxic fog”
    and being extremely lucky, Erin Brocovich movie release was
    between my 2nd + 3rd public forum to theTown Council.

  33. 34 ronmoreau

    jez,

    “I’m still trying to figure out what a Planning Commissioner does….”

    Here it is in a nut shell,

    1-To prepare,adopt, or amend a plan of conservation and development for the municipality.

    2-To review and make recommendations on all proposed municipal improvements.

    3-T establish,change,or repeal regulations for the subdivision and resubdivisions of land.

    4-To determine whether the existing division of any land constitutes a subdivision or resubdifision.

    5-To hear, consider, and decide upon applications for approval of subdivision or resubdivision plans.

    6-To hear, consider, and decide upon applications for special permits or special exceptions to the extent required by the zoning regulations of the municipality.

    7-To review and make recomendations on any proposed zoning regulations or boundries or any changes to such regulations or boundries.

    8- To prepare and file suveys,maps,or plans of proposed highways,streets,or sidewalks,or the relocation,grade or improvement of existing highways,streets,or sidewalks,or of any proposed building or veranda lines, and to assess benifits or damages to landowners or mortgagees arising from such work.

    9- To approve or disapprove municipal applications to the Commissioner of Environmental Protection for grants-in-aid of programs established to preserve open space lands or restrict the use of such lands for conservation or recreational use.

    As you can see there is alot of responsibility connected with this position. I wonder if all the other candidates realize it.

  34. 35 1george1

    Ron,

    Please connect the dots for me with a similar articulation for
    the position that Henrick is running for?

    Then step back and look at the role OTHER PEOPLE have in mind
    for you and Henrick as the elected officials (front men)

    Then review your last sentence for # 34 as for the potential boiling
    pot OTHER PEOPLE have in mind for you?

  35. 36 ronmoreau

    George,

    When I first ran for town council 20 years ago. Doc Gunther gave me some advice that I will never forget. “You use the party to get elected. Once elected you represent ALL of the people in your district and town, regardless of party affiliation.”

    Any decision I make, in any position I hold, is made with that advice in mind.

    What OTHER PEOPLE have in mind? They have their vision of Stratford. I have mine. Many times both visions are the same. That’s why WE are Republicans. Is that wrong?

    Many people elected find that they are overwelmed with the position that they were elected to. Some quit,some just go with the flow, some do the best they can, some do a great job. I know what I’m getting into. Many don’t.

    There are good and bad in all walks of life. Lord knows politics is not exempt. I believe that most elected officials do their best to do the right thing.

  36. 37 ronmoreau

    George,

    The information you seek, concerning the Zoning board, is in a document prepared by the Zone Department in town hall. The same document that I quoted (above) for the planning board position.

    It is given to all elected zoniing officials at their first meeting. I for one want to know what I’m getting into before I sit in that seat not after I sit in it.

  37. 38 ronmoreau

    George,

    I forgot…. The document is called The ‘Planning Commissioners Handbook’.

  38. 39 ronmoreau

    Back to the subject of this thread.

    All 3 zoning boards will have some input to what transpires at the SEAP (AVCO) property unless the Mayor elect , town attorney, town council find a way to exclude us. This developement needs to be done right for the benefit of all in Stratford.That’s why it is important to make the right decisions in the voting booth this November.

  39. 40 1george1

    Ron,

    Thank you for the FYI.

    I was hoping you would post in simpler terms like you did for
    your position, so people could see in your words the highlites
    of the position Henrich is running to be elected?

    The act of doing so would also make you MORE AWARE of the
    probability people will want to use you

    >>>

    I look at Mirons / Schirillo / Burturlas / Berchem as very bad

    Harkins / Cabrol-DeCilio / Kelly / Florek-Feehan / Willinger as worse.

    I believe Dom is part of the system.

    Bridgeport City Council voted to get Berchem involved in Stealpointe
    after the Judge ruled about airport expansion.
    TIMING?
    MOTIVE?
    FOREKNOWLEDGE?
    POSITION?
    DISPARATE TREATMENT?
    MENS RHEA?

    Recently Natera’s people had something about a new partner?

    I always blogged about Conspiracy and Time Tables.

  40. 41 jezebel282

    George,

    Ron answered the question I posed about the duties of a planning commissioner.

    You, on the other hand, are running for Mayor and Councilman. Maybe you should post what is is you think a mayor should do? After all, Ron is not running for mayor, you are.

  41. 42 ronmoreau

    “There’s a lot going on at the Army Engine Plant we don’t know about. The WPCA and Town of Stratford have to get a seat at the table,” said Councilman Joseph Kubic (R-9th), who made the motion Monday to hire the attorneys.

    “If we’re such an important party,” Kubic said Tuesday, “why aren’t we involved? I don’t understand why the town isn’t.”

    “It’s obvious they don’t understand the issues,” Mayor James R. Miron said Tuesday afternoon, adding he could discuss them with the authority in executive session.

    Jez,

    It’s obvious to the most casual observer that the Mayor CHOSE not to include the Town Council , for whatever reason, in ‘breaking developements’ concerning the SAEP property.

    It’s also obvious that the Mayor has his own aganda concerning the SEAP property. By not keeping the town council in the loop reaks of ‘back room politics’. So much for transparency in government.

    We can’t afford to have 4 more years of this. At least I can’t.

  42. 43 ronmoreau

    Stratfords concerns should, at the very least, be transparent to the Town Council.

  43. 44 jezebel282

    Ron,

    “It’s obvious to the most casual observer that the Mayor CHOSE not to include the Town Council”

    As a result of Miron’s “involvement” (although I might give that particular credit to Rich Buturla and Berchem Moses & Devlin) we are now stuck with the Nateras and a gift of Stratford land to Bridgeport by the Army who was nice enough to leave us with a toxic nightmare.

    One cannot imagine a worse scenario. Thanks, Jimmy.

  44. 45 ronmoreau

    For those of you who don’t know. The WPCA and the Town Council are one in the same.

  45. 46 mikereynolds

    Now, I’m no supporter of Jim Miron, but I don’t think you can blame him for the Natera’s.

    The GSA took over the whole thing from Team Stratford and ran the bidding process. The Natera’s bid, they won.

    Stratford had no say. So I don’t think you can pin that on Miron.

  46. 47 jezebel282

    Mike,

    “So I don’t think you can pin that on Miron.”

    LOL! I can try…..

    But you are right. As a Democrat-for-Life it does, however, please me to no end to say that the bulk of the guilt belongs to Norm Aldrich, Chuck Willinger and Team Stratford with an assist from Debbie Rose. That deal was about as dirty as they come.

    Miron did have his chance to block, or at least delay, the proceedings that gave the City of Bridgeport ownership of more Stratford land. He did not.

  47. 48 1george1

    The Debby Rose Town Council was the one where she came out as a
    Democrat after going Independent, and being elected as Republican.

    That night in December was hugely covered by CT. POST, NEW HAVEN
    REGISTER, STRATFORD STAR, and STRATFORD BARD.

    GI LARD I ceased being Town Attorney.
    Burturla became Town Attorney.
    Druggie Steve Cleary fingered Police Chief Mossman in audience
    I was dumb enough to confront Mossman in front of 100 witnesses.
    > NO WITNESS backed his police report – arrest next day & withheld 74 days.
    > NO NEWSPAPER reported me and Mossman “brief disagreement” before I walked out.
    – No arrest on spot = no exigent situation
    – No call to B & W
    – No arrest when I returned, reported that week police blotter.”
    – No Warrant.
    – Violate at least 7 procedures written under Mossman

    I would be very interested in feed back from Jeze or others via blog
    or my web contact page or phone or e-mail about
    Mossman
    Rose
    Burturla
    Gilardi

    I believe Mike Reynolds has police background.
    Despite fact you don’t like me, if Mossman did this to one of your
    buddies …. would you agree it was a frame?

  48. 49 ronmoreau

    Jez,

    It appears to me that State Statute is being ingnored ,by all, concerning the ‘Subdivision ‘of the SAEP property.

    By State Statute the Stratford Planning Commision has authority concerning the the proposed ‘Subdivision’ of all municipal property. Which includes the SAEP property.

    How many more State Statutes are being violated? I believe the Stratford Inland Wetlands and Watcouse Agencies are governed by State Statute as well.

    Another Failure of the current administration in our wonderful town of Stratford.

  49. 50 1george1

    Isn’t it amazing how Lawyers and Government officials ignore
    State and Federal Statutes and Constitutions?

    Lawyers:
    Miron
    Burturla
    Kelly
    Florek

    Does anyone care about seniors, veterans, families, business, minorities,
    quality of life, human decency.

    Some people appear to worship the ENGRAVENED IMAGE.

    SAD
    pity

  50. 51 jezebel282

    Ron,

    “By State Statute the Stratford Planning Commision has authority concerning the the proposed ‘Subdivision’ of all municipal property”

    Umm…wouldn’t that be you?

  51. 52 ronmoreau

    George,

    Now it’s time to say…

    …And there are NO CONSPIRACIES by otherwise competent business people and officials?

  52. 53 ronmoreau

    Jez,

    I am currently chairman of the Stratford Board of Zoning Appeals.

    However, I am running for the Planning Commission seat vacated by Angello Stavola.

  53. 54 jezebel282

    Ron,

    “However, I am running for the Planning Commission seat vacated by Angello Stavola.”

    OK…I’ll bite.

    What the f&%k do you intend to DO about this?

  54. 55 ronmoreau

    Jez,

    What CAN I do?

    The subdivision of land is a Planning issue, not an Appeals issue.

    I’m not a lawyer so I’m not sure what legal recourse the Planning Commission or Inland Wetlands has.

    I would imagine that the town attorneys office would have to initiate legal recourse.

    With all the alledged deals, that the Bridgeport and Stratford administrations appear to be making, I doubt that that will happen.

  55. 56 ronmoreau

    jez,

    There is a preponderance of impropriety with this whole SEAP situation.

    It’s time for Stratford to move on.

    Three more weeks.

  56. 57 jezebel282

    Ron,

    It is you who said, “By State Statute the Stratford Planning Commision has authority concerning the the proposed ‘Subdivision’ of all municipal property”.

    So as a Planning Commissioner there is nothing you can do?

    ????

  57. 58 ronmoreau

    Jez,

    As a Planning Commissioner I would pose the question to the town attorney about the town administration usurping the authority of the Planning Board.

    If not satified with his explanation, I would propost that the Planning Board go over his head to the States Attorney General.

    State Statute superseeds the Town Charter but I’m sure he would find some way to explain the administrations ignoring of state law.

  58. 59 ronmoreau

    In reality perhaps it’s the judge who is ignoring state laws with respect to Land Use Boards.

    In any case the current administration chose to ignore State Statute by not presenting, on behalf of the Stratford residents, the argument that The Planning commission has authority with respect to ‘Subdivisions’.

    The buck stops in the Mayors office.

  59. 60 ronmoreau

    “In any case the current administration chose to ignore State Statute by not presenting, on behalf of the Stratford residents, the argument that The Planning commission has authority with respect to ‘Subdivisions’.”

    Perhaps I should rephrase this last statement.

    In any case the current administration chose to ignore state statutes concerning land use boards, and is providing a disservice to Stratford residents by not presenting an argument, in court, that the Planning Commission has authority concerning ‘Subdivisions’ of all Stratford property.

  60. 61 ronmoreau

    Jez,

    I would not expect Bridgeport officials to be concerned with Stratfords land. But I do expect the Mayor of our town to protect Stratfords interests.

  61. 62 jezebel282

    Ron,

    Good answer.

  62. 63 ronmoreau

    Jez,

    It also appears to me that the Bridgeport and Stratford administrations see the writing on the wall, with respect to the November election and are giving this SAEP situation the bums rush.

  63. 64 jezebel282

    “Bridgeport and Stratford administrations see the writing on the wall,”

    Interesting comment.

    It would be difficult to see any circumstance under which Miron gets re-elected. (perhaps if everyone that is not a member of the Democratic Town Committee had the flu on Nov 3rd?).

    Do you think it possible that this complete failure to protect Stratford is more of Miron’s Revenge? He seems to have spent the last 4 years getting even with real and imagined enemies.

  64. 65 ronmoreau

    Jez,

    I can’t imagine what the mans motives are.

    It just appears to me that he does not have Stratfords best interest at heart.

  65. 66 ronmoreau

    Jez,

    However,I do suspect that several members of the Democratic Town Committee will be voting Republican on November 3rd.

  66. 67 jezebel282

    Ron,

    “I do suspect that several members of the Democratic Town Committee will be voting Republican on November 3rd.”

    Really? I thought Gavin Forrester switched.

    Most Democrats have a conscience. That’s why they won’t be voting for Miron. No matter what he claims to be. There has never been a more anti-union, anti-education, vulgar, egomaniacal, fiscally irresponsible and paranoid political official that I can remember. Maybe Joe McCarthy…but he was from Wisconsin.

    Perhaps on November 4th someone can quote Army Counsel Joseph Welch and say, “Have you no decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”

  67. 68 nomoreyears

    “Do you think it possible that this complete failure to protect Stratford is more of Miron’s Revenge?”

    Jezebel, I have known this assclown for over 20 years and in the past have actually conversed with the soon to be former mayor on his “revenge”. It would not surprise me in the least that this is James R. Miron’s final “gift” to Stratford.

    I wonder what Jim will be doing for employment as the newly unelected and discredited mayor of Stratford? Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he joins the corporation council of the city of Bridgeport.

    He’s one sneaky, conniving, mental case and I’m really quite sure he set Stratford up for airport expansion.

  68. 69 phineast

    You can take that to the bank, and he has set it up so the Fed. gov’t takes the hit for it. He needs the army engine plant to close to he claim something happened on his watch. This deal is nothing that he should be bragging about though. You have Bridgeport’s Biggest Blight offenders that will be owning the biggest site contamination since Raymark. What would Stratford do if the Natera’s turned around and sold the whole damn parcel back to the FAA? Now there is a whopping expansion and the FAA provides the “cap” in the form of a runway. Stratford would permanantly lose the tax dollars that should be generated and because it is federal there is not a damn thing they can do about it. The only ones to profit would be the attorneys and maybe the Nateras. It is a frightening senario that even George would appreciate.

  69. 70 jezebel282

    It remains a question how the Army and/or the GSA can give land wholly within Stratford to another municipality. It is sort of like giving the Federal Courthouse in Manhattan to Newark. For free.

    As for Miron/the Nateras/the Buturlas/Finch/Willinger, with a crew like that what kind of outcome for taxpayers could possibly emerge from that?

    That’s like expecting the Gambino and Genovese families to build a secure prison.

  70. 71 1george1

    Hey Guys,

    After a long Tuesday, with work starting @ 6:00 am and Clown Council
    ending at Midnight and then having to prep my statement and deliver
    it to the mostly white, miron appointed, mostly employee C.A.R.E
    (Citizens Addressing Racial Equality) last night around 8:00 am, I took
    an early beauty sleep (lob alert( and left the blog for 18 hours.

    Now you guys out do my conspiracy stuff … darn it!

    Did I note a Freudian slip with Ron calling SAEP a SEAP?
    Stratford Army Engine Plant, writen as seap, sound like something for
    the new water treatment plant …
    But then, I have blogged Stratford politics needs an enema.

    Convenient facts get in the way of some arguments posted.
    Miron pointed out to Julian Tuesday.
    1. The Army, not Stratford, owns the SAEP.
    2. Stratford had “no standing” in the Law suit between Bridgeport
    and the Army over 1.07 acres of Land.
    3. There has been no transfer of all or ANY part of SAEP.
    4. If the land does not belong to Stratford, how could planning or
    zoning or the mayor have ANY say in the SAEP property?

    I hate giving credit to Jimbo, when he is correct.
    However, I prefer not to be incorrect in basing arguments.

    Do I believe the conjecture of the bloggers is close to the end game,
    of the people behind the Stratford, Bridgeport, Milford, Fairfield, and
    Westport/Norwalk Democratic and Republican political parties, members
    of the Bar Association, Feds from the ARMY to FAA to EPA to DOT and
    the various “elected” or “appointed,” as well as Ctate of CT. counterparts?

    I guess the answer is rhettorical?

  71. 72 jezebel282

    With about a month left in office, we are gratified that Mr. Julian has finally found his voice. Were it not for HIPAA laws we may also be able to state that 4 years is the longest case of laryngitis on record.

    You Read It in The Post:

    Stratford concern is not political
    Updated: 10/15/2009 04:54:55 PM EDT

    On Oct. 2, the Stratford Water Pollution Control Authority filed a motion to intervene to get involved in the city of Bridgeport’s lawsuit with the U.S. Army to acquire 1.07 acres of the engine plant property for airport expansion. The purpose of the WPCA intervention was to assert the WPCA’s justified right to protect the sewer pipes that travel under Main Street and service the south end of Stratford. It was not to block the sale of the engine plant to Hollywood East, which the Town Council agrees with.

    The WPCA’s concern centers on the fact that if the sewer pipe is relocated with Main Street as part of the city’s airport expansion, then who pays the cost of that relocation? The WPCA and Stratford’s taxpayers, the city of Bridgeport or the U.S. Army? Second, if the pipe is not moved with the relocation of Main Street, then will the city of Bridgeport grant an easement so that the WPCA can service the pipe? And if no easement is granted, what happens to the sewer system to the Lordship section of town? These are the issues the WPCA is concerned about.

    The mayor’s only comment is that the WPCA intervention is election year politics. Unfortunately for our town it is not election year politics. It is about our town, our neighborhood and our quality of life.

    The mayor’s comments do not dispute that he is in favor of airport expansion. He does not dispute that he is giving Bridgeport 1.07 acres of taxable property for free. He does not address the potential problems with the Lordship sewer system. Instead, he is attempting to confuse the issue by claiming that the message is coming “20 days before the election” and that the Town Council does not have all the facts. Why doesn’t the mayor share the facts with the Town Council?

    Michael Julian

    1st District Councilman

    Stratford

    The evidence against Miron just keeps piling up…..

  72. 73 ronmoreau

    Councilman Julian,

    AMEN

  73. 74 ronmoreau

    phineast said,

    ” What would Stratford do if the Natera’s turned around and sold the whole damn parcel back to the FAA? Now there is a whopping expansion and the FAA provides the “cap” in the form of a runway. Stratford would permanantly lose the tax dollars that should be generated and because it is federal there is not a damn thing they can do about it. The only ones to profit would be the attorneys and maybe the Nateras. It is a frightening senario that even George would appreciate.”

    It IS a frightening senario.

    We have a Mayor who is ignoring State Statute concerning Stratford Land Use Boards. Who is ignoring the concerns of the Stratford WPCA. Who is not keeping our representatives on the Town Council aware of ‘breaking developements’ concerning the AVCO property.

    And we have the city of Bridgeport taking more property from our town with the blessing of the U. S. of A.

    SHAMEFUL

  74. 75 ronmoreau

    Jez,

    What’s wrong with this picture?

  75. 76 ronmoreau

    I’m not asking you Mr. Mulligan. LOL

  76. 77 ronmoreau

    ….. But feel free.

  77. 78 ronmoreau

    With Jez’s blessing of course.

  78. 79 jezebel282

    Ron,

    “What’s wrong with this picture?”

    The easier question is what is right?

    The answer is “nothing”. There is no upside for Stratford whatsoever from this deal. The lawsuit brought by Bridgeport because their tenants have been getting free water and sewage for decades was wholly their problem, not ours nor Hollywood East’s.

    Their solution was to delay the “sale” of the SAEP by the GSA to Hollywood East. So what? It will take decades and tens of millions of dollars before that property is remediated to even an industrial level. There will be no bulldozers, construction crews, or even traffic within our lifetimes. And that’s only if the Nateras come back to the States from Mexico.

  79. 80 1george1

    It confounds me that people intentionally got people with the
    Nateras “reputation” involved in AVCO, unless there was some
    “new” intentional failure in the plan?

    I spoke to the woman partner in the AVCO BID.
    I have no doubt they envision a massive pay day from large
    construction.
    However a nice cash payout makes too much sense.

    Ron raised a very interesting twist with a PORTION of the AVCO
    property being sold to whoever owns the Airport?
    I can not see the FAA owning the land.
    PROBLEMATIC?

    All of that RAYMARK DUMPING with ASBESTOS shavings sitting under
    ground, awaiting to take flight, when dug up.

    YEP!

    Directly across the street from BOTH of the RUNWAYS are a very
    large tract of RAYMARK DUMPINGS.

    Ohhhhh

    So close to SHORT BEACH, TOOOOOO!

    Remember the PCBs leaching into the Housatonic River from Raymark?
    Check the stuff in the the DORNE DRIVE dump?

    Ask for 2005 EPA Bulletin # 44. It has all the MAPS of all DUMPS
    and details, needing updating, from Health Studies

  80. 81 jezebel282

    George,

    “All of that RAYMARK DUMPING with ASBESTOS shavings sitting under
    ground, awaiting to take flight, when dug up.”

    Raymark dumpings are the least of the problems at SAEP. Remember, for the 50+ years of it’s operation it was exempt from ALL federal and state environmental laws and guidelines.

  81. 82 1george1

    Jeze,

    I not sure what is happening, but ever since I put a single post in the
    george’s post, you have been posting things I posted for years.

    When Barnfart was still TM, AVCO had a Town Council + RAC in the big
    conference room down the hall from the main entrance a little before
    “Rose’s.” We were treated to the visions of all kinds of “stuff” that Saddam
    Hussein coulda / woulda wanted.

    It made Raymark look like chicken soup, by comparison.

    And, the water on the shoreline by the phallic symbol getty was filled with
    particularly nasty stuff, where a GREEN WAY – WALK WAY was delusional!

    I could just see a 6 year old toss a toy in the water, and a resulting
    disaster.

    Whatever the plans there have been for AVCO, should include the
    remediation of that area and then CLEAN FILL to elevate the entire
    site by 10 feet, including past the promontory and into the River,
    which could INCREASE the LOT SIZE by a couple acres.

    Boston, Tokyo, NY City and many other cities recover riparian areas
    to be used for development.

    Between the land of the Airport and AVCO, especially going to 4 stories,
    WHERE only part of 1 building had 2 stories and a tiny part had 3 stories,
    12,000 jobs, could be a very conservative estimate, using part of the Ar
    port for parking, and Hangars with Offices above them?

  82. 83 jezebel282

    George,

    “Whatever the plans there have been for AVCO, should include the
    remediation of that area and then CLEAN FILL to elevate the entire
    site by 10 feet, including past the promontory and into the River,
    which could INCREASE the LOT SIZE by a couple acres.”

    That actually WAS the plan submitted by Jim Neale, Director of the Stratford LRA (Local Reuse Authority) working under Diane Toolan and Mark Barnhart until Debbie Rose and the Council killed it and selected Team Stratford instead.

    But that was back in the day of professional Town government….seems like a loooong time ago.

  83. 84 ronmoreau

    George said,

    ” Convenient facts get in the way of some arguments posted.
    Miron pointed out to Julian Tuesday.
    1. The Army, not Stratford, owns the SAEP.
    2. Stratford had “no standing” in the Law suit between Bridgeport
    and the Army over 1.07 acres of Land.
    3. There has been no transfer of all or ANY part of SAEP.
    4. If the land does not belong to Stratford, how could planning or
    zoning or the mayor have ANY say in the SAEP property?”

    George,

    Facts you say?

    NONE of the properties that come before the Stratford Land Use Boards are ‘owned’ by the Town of Stratford.

    State Statute dictates that the Stratford Planning Commission has the responsibility and authority…

    1-To prepare,adopt, or amend a plan of conservation and development for the municipality.

    2-To review and make recommendations on all proposed municipal improvements.

    3-T establish,change,or repeal regulations for the subdivision and resubdivisions of land.

    4-To determine whether the existing division of any land constitutes a subdivision or resubdifision.

    5-To hear, consider, and decide upon applications for approval of subdivision or resubdivision plans……..

    The Stratford Planning Board has no say how Stratford property gets subdivided?

    The Stratford WPCA has no say in what happens to OUR sewer system?

    The Town Council has no say in what happens in our town?

    The people in Stratford have no say AT ALL?

    Just because the Mayor says so?

    ROTFLMAO

  84. 85 ronmoreau

    George,

    It’s actually not funny.

    It’s sad.

  85. 86 ronmoreau

    Town officials have all the authority to dictate what Stratfords residends and buisnesses do with their property, in the Town of Stratford.

    Yet Town Officials have NO say what the state, the army or the city of bridgeport wants to do in Stratford?

    Where is OUR representation?

    It’s just not right.

  86. 87 1george1

    Ron I agree and disagree.

    Where I disagree, is where a Judge may or may not rule
    Stratford had any standing in the Army – Bridgeport thing?

    However I definitely agree something should have tried.

    I guess the left wing of Berchem Castle does not know what
    goes on in the right wing of Berchem Castle?

    But maybe both wing are right wings, without doing right?

  87. 88 genericscreename

    Et al:

    Yes I know it has been a while, so after months of pondering and observing the most recent comments I find myself here once again offering the following to stimulate your thoughts and comments:

    for those of you who care to look back a year or so ago when the debate ensued regarding SAEP, the FAA and the airport I posted my observations regarding the approved facility expansion at the airport concurrent with the 200K one time payment to the town of Stratford which was approved by the prior town council after all the fact were presented to them in executive session.

    So for those who may have forgotten that post and need a reminder, here goes:

    Volo Aviation broke ground a few months back at the airport for the first of three phases of construction for an initial investment of $9,000,000.00 to construct an FBO, private terminal and 90,000 square feet of state of the art hanger space.

    I ask those of you with great financial minds to consider this:

    In today’s economy when commercial credit is almost non existent, with new construction development nationwide virtually at less than 1%, why would a private aviation concern (especially when all airlines of all sorts with the exception of a few boutique lines are filing for bankruptcy) find the necessary capitol and financing to make such a significant investment in an airport which does not comply with current FAA safety regulations or have the capacity in the length of the runways to accept the commercial traffic for that magnitude of hanger space and private terminal do such with out cause?

    It is pretty clear to me that they have cause, know what will happen by the time phase three is concluded and that once the FAA has completed its construction for safety compliance the last of the construction will be completed and the aviation concern will be primed to open for business just as the final pieces come together. First in gets the gold.

    Ok, enough of my thoughts and observations again for a few months, Ill be back I suspect after the elections, and although I am supporting Harkins, I have a funny feeling we may all be both surprised and possibly shocked at the outcome. I hope I am wrong and Harkins wins by a landslide.

  88. 89 jezebel282

    Generic,

    “Ill be back I suspect after the elections, and although I am supporting Harkins, I have a funny feeling we may all be both surprised and possibly shocked at the outcome.”

    Let us all hope that after the election, there will be no further need for this blog.

  89. 90 mikereynolds

    From the CT Post:

    Sergio Natera, whose brothers have been involved in redevelop plans for Army engine plant in Stratford, pleads guilty in bank fraud case.

    Where have we seen where criminal behavior runs through a family??

  90. 91 jezebel282

    Mike,

    Nice pick up!

    How many more Nateras are there?

  91. 92 1george1

    Good job candidate Mike!

  92. 93 jezebel282

    Update:

    Stratford film studios: Lights, camera, no action
    Brittany Lyte, Staff Writer
    Published: 05:11 p.m., Monday, August 16, 2010

    STRATFORD — More than two years ago, a quarrelsome clan of New Haven investors won a $9.6 million bid to pump thousands of jobs and a bit of Hollywood magic into the long-abandoned Army engine plant, a shuttered factory set on 78 acres of contaminated soil along the Housatonic River.

    The plan was to transform the old aircraft manufacturing plant into Hollywood East, a campus of sound stages and multimedia studios.

    Propped up on the shoulders of the state’s multimedia production tax incentive program, the idea that one of the largest movie studio complexes in the country could replace the ghost of the U.S. Army defense manufacturing plant gave hope to a community eager for economic development.

    More than two years later, time has whittled that hope to hype. The federal government last week put the Army engine plant back on the auction block.

    Back in 2008, the Army gave the investors, Allen Christopher and brothers Ed and Hector Natera, 180 days to finalize the bid. Over the years, that deadline was extended at least three times while the partners wrestled a storm of upsets, including an internal power struggle over control of the project, an FBI raid of Hector Natera’s real estate office and a lawsuit over access to a water pipeline.

    Last Monday marked the most recent deadline, and, once again, the investors failed to come up with the money to close the deal. But this time, the Army is considering re-offering the plant for public sale, according to Army spokesperson David Foster. The property is newly listed for sale on the real estate auction website of the U.S. General Services Administration.

    For now, the dream is dead of the movie industry breathing life back into the deserted property.

    Really? The Nateras couldn’t come up with $9 Million? I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you.

  93. 94 1george1

    Generic: post 88
    the 200K one time payment to the town of Stratford which was
    approved by the prior town council after all the facts were
    presented to them in executive session.

    George
    could that be $ 20,000 per Councilor? 😉

    Generic:
    Volo Aviation broke ground …at the airport
    three phases of construction for an initial investment of $9,000,000.00
    to construct an FBO, private terminal and 90,000 square feet of state
    of the art hanger space.

    In today’s economy when commercial credit is almost non existent,
    with new construction development nationwide virtually at less than 1%,
    why would a private aviation concern

    It is pretty clear to me that they have cause,
    know what will happen by the time phase three is concluded and
    that once the FAA has completed its construction for safety
    ….the aviation concern will be primed to open for business just
    as the final pieces come together. First in gets the gold.

    George:
    COULD IT BE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO BELIEVES THERE IS A
    TIME TABLE?
    CONSPIRACY?

    ———–

    Blyte (blight) story (b lyte) in POST:

    My letter to the Editor in the STAR in late JUNE/early JULY.
    stated AVCO may need a NEW BIDDER.

    Last Sunday’s CT POST front page story mentioned DOG STAR
    in Chapter 11. Yet had written about positive:
    1 – Shakespeare Festival
    2 – Blues on the Beach
    3 – Stratford as Hollywood.

    Earlier in the week I sent e-mails to CT POST management, Ms B Lyte,
    and Mike Mayko suggesting a reporter do a positive story about our
    Stratford.

    Their own website listed the past 6 reporter stories were negative
    about people in Stratford.
    Sunday’s story was mostly positive.
    Today’s story is likely the one that was planned to run Sunday.

    The ARTS FESTIVAL PEOPLE had a nice turnout, good reception,
    made money, and created positive press.

    I hear people in RTC + DTC + Bridgeport politicians are ticked.

    The OCT 18 CUT OFF DATE is a relative’s Birthday.
    I take it as a threat.

    I do not care who gets AVCO / DEVELOPES Bridgeport/Stratford
    Can’t we get it done and everyone make money and pay less taxes?

  94. 95 ronmoreau

    re: Draft written revaluation for the Environmental impact statement,AIP 03-09-0002-26 Igor I. Sikorski Airport Stratford,Connecticut August 2010.

    Presented to the Stratford Zoning Dept. September 3,2010.

    Presented to the Zoning commission September 21 2010.

    Public hearing concerning this draft, September 22,2010.

    What is wrong with this picture?

  95. 96 1george1

    Hi Ron,

    I was called 2 weeks ago and told about FAA Public Hearing
    Sept 22, 2010, at Ramada Inn.

    I listened to presentation, after signing up to speak and came
    back in time to speak my 3 minutes.

    The Mayor, Kevin Kelly, Chris Barnaby and others were at the
    Ramada Inn.

    Was the Public Hearing for Zoning at Town Hall?

    What is wrong with both of those pictures?

  96. 97 ronmoreau

    I guess we are just ‘political second class citizens’ on the Stratford Zoning Board.

    The draft and cover letter was presented to the Stratford Zoning commission September 21 2010.

  97. 98 ronmoreau

    Are land use boards still being ignored in Stratford?

  98. 99 1george1

    Ron,
    Were there any speakers to the Public Hearing?
    Was there legal posting?

    The Star and Post were at the Ramada?


    Ron,
    I am ignorant of land use board.
    Please explain?

  99. 100 ronmoreau

    George,

    Last nights meeting of the zoning board is when I first heard of the Ramada public hearing.

  100. 101 ronmoreau

    Just an observation, on my part.

  101. 102 1george1

    Ron

    1 – good job making people aware.

    2 – were the public hearings going on at the same time in 2 places?

    3 – who were the public speakers, if any?

    4 – did the zoning board vote on the impact statement or will they
    need time to review, results of the public hearing?

    5 – Is the impact somewhere on the web?

    6 – What is a land use board?

    I am shutting down – going to sleep.
    Stay well.

  102. 103 ronmoreau

    Jez,

    ” Sikorsky Aircraft said it has opened an experimental assembly line in Florida for the heavy lift CH-53K helicopter, but has not determined whether the production line will be in Connecticut or elsewhere.

    http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Sikorsky-to-launch-Big-Iron-from-Florida-1277236.php#ixzz1HaBPyD6J

    Former jet engine/aircraft manufactoring facility available in Stratford.

    3 miles south of Sikorsky Aircraft.

    Owned by the U.S.Army.

    Directly across the street form Sikorsky airport.

    Easy access to I95 and rail lines.

    U.S. Army saves money.

    Puts alot of people to work.

    Everybody benefits. Even the greedy bastards that would love to get their hands on the property.

  103. 104 ronmoreau

    Lets make a deal.

  104. 105 1george1

    Good Post.

    United Technology which owns Sikorsky and Pratt & Whitney
    bought AVCO TEXTRON LY COMING in the early – mid 1980s.

    So it is not like they are not knowledgeable of the property.

    Actually, they know the stuff underground …. worse than Raymark
    and twice as big ….

    I guess we can scratch that idea?

    FYI
    George Pratt Schultz is related to the Pratt of Pratt & Whitney.

    Dick Cheney resigned as President / CEO of Halliburton in 2000
    to accept VP nomination. Halliburton owned Dresser/Ashcroft
    at the time.

    Neil Mallon Bush, son of GHW + W’s brother, was named after fellow
    Skull & Bones Neil, Mallon … President & CEO of Dresser, who gave
    GHWB his first job outta college.

    George Pratt Schultz’s grandfather was Treasurer of J D Rockefeller’s
    original ….Standard Oil Trust.
    David (Chairman Chase Bank & NYC Trilateral Commission) Rockefeller
    was brother to Nelson Rockefeller, unelected VP to unelected Pres
    G. Ford, who rose to the position from the Watergate cover story.
    See David’s Wikipedia and all elments of conspiracy are there!

    If you were wondering who the INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX of the Military
    Industrial complex are, trace the properties and foundations of the
    Robber Barons and who they married?

    Rockefellers Standard Oil Trust

    Rockefellers gave the land for the UN.

    Rockefeller DRUG LAWS,

    Rockefeller Trilateral Commission

    However – It is likely there was a hostile take over?

    Patty Hurst, Getty, Grace Kelly, Henry Dupont, Rockefellers,
    Piccolo, Paul Castellano, Gotti ….

  105. 106 ronmoreau

    George,

    “United Technology which owns Sikorsky and Pratt & Whitney
    bought AVCO TEXTRON LY COMING in the early – mid 1980s.”

    Textron(AVCO) Lycoming was bought by Allied Signal in the mid 80’s.

    “Actually, they know the stuff underground …. worse than Raymark
    and twice as big ….”

    If the property is used as an assembly plant remediation costs would be mu
    ch lower.

    “I guess we can scratch that idea?”

    It’s an idea that should be considered by the Army,Sikorsky and the Mayor.

  106. 107 1george1

    Ron you are partially correct.

    1) It would cost less to remediate to Industrial than commercial,
    which cost less than to retail, than to condo / residential.

    2) I do not have the SPECIFICS, but I am 100 % sure a plan has been
    in places since the 1980s / 1990s ……
    > CIA + DOD Intelligence have had offices in both buildings, as they
    should.
    > SENATE / CONGRESS / STATE / LOCAL defer to DEPARTMENTS/AGENCIES
    who are given marching orders by politically elected who get their orders
    from the money people behind the political parties.

    Those could be British intelligence or French Intelligence, which runs
    British and American intelligence.

  107. 108 ronmoreau

    George,

    ” Ron you are partially correct.”

    Which part was incorrect?

  108. 109 ronmoreau

    “Prior to 1927, the AEP/S property was farmland. The property was developed in 1927 for Sikorsky Aircraft and was owned by the Air Force through 1976.”

    50 years …and developed for Sikorsky Aircraft.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if Sikorsky Aircraft stepped up to the plate and assumed responsibility for the property by remediating it to an industial level and turn it into an assembly plant for the ch53K?

    Sikorsky,with the help of the government(local,State and Federal),would be remediating the property,create hundreds of middle class jobs and stimulate the whole area.

    The PR that would be generated would show that Sikorsky Aircraft is not only a leader in the industy, but is a true leader in the community where its helocopter was born.

  109. 110 ronmoreau

    Capitalizing on its and our rich aeronautical history.

  110. 111 1george1

    RON > George, ” Ron you are partially correct.”
    Which part was incorrect?

    GEORGE > Ron, it is my understanding that the long standing toxins
    have created an unknown amount of VOCs (Volitile Organic Compunds)
    which would cause a need for all or most of the buildings to be torn
    down.

    I do not disagree with your basic concepts, as they are very good ideas.

    American industrial production is actually much higher than in the past.
    However technology has eliminated excellent jobs and benefits in those
    fields, and those people were never retrained or re-educated.

    So you are correct about use of the facility for Manufacturing.

    As of 2 years ago, the ARMY had paid $ 70 million to Caretakers instead
    of property taxes to Stratford, which would have exceeded that number.
    If the ARMY, authorized by Senate / Congress spent $ 100 million for the
    property’s remediation, and facilitated a brief transition to redevelopment
    it would have increased
    A) the SALE PRICE
    B) PARTIAL REPAYMENT of ARMY’S COST
    C) PROPERTY TAXES to STRATFORD
    D) DIRECT SALES TAX to CT by Companies on AVCO SAEP
    E) DIRECT SALES TAX to CT by Companies (ct+stfd) selling to companies
    and employees (Food/Refresh) on AVCO SAEP
    F) 10,000-20,000 GOOD JOBS paying FED + CT Taxes
    G) REDUCTION in UNEMPLOYMENT (Taxes) + I -95 Traffic
    H) more

    So RON I definitely think you are, at least, partially right.

  111. 112 ronmoreau

    George,

    I’m just planting a seed.

    ” American industrial production is actually much higher than in the past.
    However technology has eliminated excellent jobs and benefits in those
    fields, and those people were never retrained or re-educated.”

    There are many of us (Lycoming workers)still in the area with experience in production and inventory management, engineering, R&D and assembly. Some of us were even crew chiefs on helicopters in the service with ch-53d experience.

  112. 113 1george1

    Ron,

    The Military and Intelligence WAR GAME E V E R Y T H I N G.

    What happened in REAL ESTATE, FINANCE, INDUSTRIES, JOBS,
    DRUGS/ALCOHOL, OIL/GAS seems to me of NATIONAL SECURITY
    NATIONAL INTEREST

    Ron, would you find it more likely or less likely that everything was
    planned?

    Ron, you are aware that DOD + CIA have offices in AVCO + SIKORSKY
    and that POLICE + LAWYERS work under direction with FATHERLAND
    ooops, I mean HOME LAND SECURITY?

    Helicopters AIR FORCE # 1
    are made where?
    carry whom?

    Helicopters have been key operational tools for
    ARMY + NAVY + MARINES + COAST GUARD + Domestic security

    Drone Helicopters are less expensive to operate.

    Drones are less expensive with suffient fire power to replace some
    combat operations

    – The ONLY positive thing about Hurricane Katrina was COAST GUARD
    HELICOPTERS saving THOUSANDS!!!
    – FLOODS, FIRES, post TORNADOS, post HURRICANES, post EARTH QUAKES,
    post ACCIDENTS, EMERGENCY DELIVERIES = those are markets for Helicopters
    which Transports, VTOL, Rail, and Road Vehicals can not deliver.

    If the people who ran the Country, cared about the people – so many things
    would be different …..

    DRUGS/CRIME + WAR are BIG MONEY.

    The people who run the country make the MAFIA look like CHOIR BOYS.

  113. 114 ronmoreau

    George,

    “Helicopters AIR FORCE # 1
    are made where?
    carry whom?”

    Are you refering to Marine 1?

    The Sikorsky helicopters that carry the President of the United States? The US Marine corps squadron HMX-1?

    Semper Fi.

  114. 115 1george1

    Ron – you passed quiz with “FLYING” “COLORS!”

    Just wondering?

    FIDEL(is) (c)ASTRO (naut) ?
    Who guards GITMO?
    Can Cuba see ASTRONAUTS launched from Cape Kennedy?
    Did Military / CIA overthrow Mafia backed Dicator and install FIDEL?

  115. 116 ronmoreau

    George,

    “Just wondering?”…..

    What the hell does that have to do with AVCO?

  116. 117 1george1

    Yo ron ….

    Nice letter to the Editor.
    Nice job.

    As far as my comments …. which you wonder about

    They were related to your writing:
    1) Marine 1
    2) Semper Fi,,,

  117. 118 ronmoreau

    Jez ,

    As a follow-up to Brittany Lyte’s expansive review of the environmental issues in Stratford, I need to mention a few things. It was sad to see such extensive coverage of the issue, most of which is widely known already, without input from some of the local folks who have worked so hard to bring about solutions. Former members of The Raymark Advisory Committee like Charlie Perez and Ron Mazzey come to mind. Both have a wealth of knowledge but no comment. Also no input from the current incarnation of local activism through Save Stratford and Tom Smith.

    Inasmuch as this is Stratford’s legacy, so is it the legacy of the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Environmental Protection, which in my opinion is a legacy of failure. A legacy of half-truths and delay. A legacy of inaction. And it begs the question: “Whose environment are they protecting?”

    The truth is Stratford’s legacy is the result of a fat bureaucracy with no real motivation to help us, the citizens, who live here. The truth is we have the answer in hand as a result of the tenacious efforts of Tom Smith, chairman of Save Stratford, to find real solutions.

    The answer lies in new technology that is EPA approved, patented technology in all 50 states. It is Thermo-Chemical Processing and has been used by the EPA to … wait for it … clean up Army bases.

    This process cleans the soil. Cleans it! It is a process that renders asbestos, PCBs and most heavy metals neutral. So the discussion around where to put the waste goes away; it can be returned to where it came from because at the end of the process it is no longer toxic.

    The price tag for this technology is in the area of $20 million — the same amount that is in our Superfund account. Which, by the way, the EPA says we have to spend before we get any more money. Well, let’s spend it on building this facility and start cleaning the ground. Once the technology is in place the cost to clean the soil is in the neighborhood of $70 a ton. If we could get everyone in the same room and perhaps change some laws to actually benefit the residents we could have a two-for-one deal here.

    Put this technology to work in the U.S. Army Engine Plant, clean the ground there and then we could start cleaning Ferry Creek by barging it into the back door of SAEP and drive the clean dirt out the front door. It’s important to note that this is mobile technology and can be used in more than one place and can move on to the next community in need when we’re done.

    When you study it, it’s just a no-brainer. And therein lies the rub; the local EPA just doesn’t seem to operate with any common sense. Their best idea right now is to dig up a few small properties and pile them in a residential neighborhood off East Broadway, right atop the very watershed that is currently leeching toxins into Ferry Creek. That is absolutely a ridiculous plan when we have the solution in hand.

    Capping in place is just kicking the can down the road to future generations. Caps are not forever. Thermo-chemical processing is. As the problem is generational, so is the solution. It is our duty to hand the future generations clean ground, not capped ground.

    That will be Stratford’s legacy if the bureaucrats can get out of their own way on our behalf.

    Matthew P. Catalano Town Council member

    Third District

    Stratford

  118. 119 ronmoreau

    My questions to Mr.Catalano,

    How long has this technology been around?

    Have town leaders been brought up to date on this technology?

  119. 120 ronmoreau

    George,

    How many millions of dollars have been spent mothballing SAEP for the last 20 years??

  120. 121 sudds

    Ron,

    Here’s a good one…

    Mr. Catalano,

    Why did you wait until the week before the election to post this in the local paper? Isn’t this information that would have better served the public being presented to the Town Council MONTHS ago???

  121. 122 sudds

    Nothing like putting people’s health in danger to try and get re-elected!!!

  122. 123 ronmoreau

    Sudds,
    “Nothing like putting people’s health in danger to try and get re-elected!!!”

    What part of, he is running unapposed, don’t you get?

  123. 124 sudds

    to quote MLK Ron…

    “I HAVE A DREAM”!!! 😛

  124. 125 1george1

    Ron,
    FROM 1996 decision and 1998 SHUT DOWN
    until the 2009 election the ARMY spent $ 80 million

    Caretaker costs & utilities had cost $ 4 million / year.

    They now cost $ 3.5 million.

    I think that is almost $ 90 million in 15 years.

    When BOB CALZONE was TOWN COUNCIL CHAIRMAN,
    he told me he PROVED to the ARMY that the R. O. I.
    would more than pay for the REMEDIATION & DEVELOPMENT.

    The AVCO SAEP property had 14,000 WW II Jobs.
    Textron Lycoming peaked @ 10.500 Vietnam era / cold War Job
    United Technologies bought Textron in mid 1980s.
    They peaked @ 8,500 jobs.

    In the 1960s / 1970s Stratford had
    35,000 good paying / great paying Factory / Industrial Job
    35,000 residents

    1960s- 1970s
    Stratford Businesses paid 73 % Property Tax
    Stratford Residents paid 27 % Property Tax

    As of about 2005
    Stratford Businesses paid 27 % Property Tax
    Stratford Residents paid 73 % Property Tax
    – The RATIO was very nearly reversed!!

  125. 126 1george1

    YO SUDDS & EVERYONE ELSE,

    I will email SUDDS, RON, & JEZEBEL
    1 – RAYMARK 2005 EPA BULLETIN # 44

    2 – The COLOR CODED PULL OUT of ALL RAYMARK
    DUMPITES, including the ACRE across the street from
    the AIRPORT.
    >
    This COLOR CODED PULL OUT is part of the HARD
    (printed) COPY of RAYMARK 2005 EPA BULLETIN # 44.
    >
    It is INcluded in the HARD COPY’S TABLE of CONTENTS
    It is EXcluded from the HARD COPY’S TABLE of CONTENTS
    – I suspect it has direct relationship to the land across from
    the SIKORSKY AIRPORT RUNWAY.


    I have been looking for the HARD COPY for months.
    I was 99 % sure, it showed the LAND across from the SIKORSKY
    AIRPORT RUNWAY, was a RAYMARK OPERATING UNIT (Dumpsite)


    I found this COLOR CODED PULL OUT (part of the HARD
    (printed) COPY of RAYMARK 2005 EPA BULLETIN # 44).
    after I got out of the HOSPITAL and emailed it to the STAR,
    PATCH, & CT POST.
    – I made SURE compentent reporters / personnel got copies.
    I spoke to those people, about the GROUND WATER / VOC
    issue that neither HARKINS nor SAVE STRATFORD and
    certainly the EPA do not want disclosed or MADE an ISSUE.

    Brittany and others did a GREAT JOB and PUBLIC SERVICE
    to the PEOPLE of STRATFORD and in my AREA.

    The CT POST loves making STRATFORD look like a BLIGHT
    ISSUE (blyte = homonym)

    SUDDS – The CT POST didn’t INTERVIEW
    ME
    HARKINS
    SAVE STRATFORD

    The CT POST interviewed Matt Catalano, District # 3 and
    several other people on my street & affected by Ground
    Water which creates VOC Volatile Organic Compounds.

    Mr. Catalano hosted Ms. Lyte, at her request.

    Mr. Catalano was alarmed that the exceptional STORY
    done by Ms Lyte & the CT POST only showed the PROBLEM.

    Over 6 months ago a group in PA who also has EPA / ARMY
    SUPERFUND ISSUES advised Tom Smith & I & others about
    AVI TECHNOLOGIES.

    I was advised (after the fact) that AVI made a PRESENTATION
    to MAYOR HARKINS and other appropriate PEOPLE.

    Mr. HARKINS & Mr. Smith (a Republican) have sat on the INFO.

    Mr. Catalano was alarmed at the IMAGE PRESENTED about his
    BELOVED STRATFORD.
    Mr. Catalano wrote a BRILLIANT LETTER.

    My LETTER is PENDING for a variety of REASONS, because
    sometimes Striking while the IRON is HOT, affects the accuracy
    of the OBJECTIVES.


    SUDDS,
    I doubt you are MAN ENOUGH to TYPE an APOLOGY to MR.
    CATALANO for your allegation of POLITICAL OPPORTUNISM,
    related to the RAYMARK GROUNDWATER / VOC.


    Mr. Catalano does not hide his relationship to the Theater &
    some of his professional income is related to Stage hand.
    Mr Catalano inherited his dad’s Title search Business.
    .
    I can not and would not type / write there is no room for a
    reasonable person to wonder if there is a “conflict of interest”
    related to the Shakespeare Theater, by Mr. Catalano.

    He had worked hard with other volunteers, without compensation.
    > The inside of the Theater is ready for seats & production.
    > 2 weeks productions were done this summer
    > The consulting towards a NON PROFIT with excess money
    going to the General Fund (Not Lawyers/bean counter pockets)
    is in process.
    > Positive publicity has been generated about the Theater &
    about Stratford.

    Mr. Catalano chaired the MEETING which denied the SEWER FEE
    from being raised from $ 280 to $ 345.

    Mr. Catalano called out Nick Owen comments about Stratford and
    spoke passionately related to KEATING FORD property which
    the HISTORIC DISTRICT wants to be OPENED as a DESIRED
    TOWN ASSET which is PROFITABLE for OWNERS.
    > Classic reference, where Paul Newman called Bridgeport
    the “armpit of CT.” while Bucci was Mayor and Mr. Catalano
    defended your & my property values and image that Stratford
    does NOT want to become the “armpit” of Bridgeport.

    I choose not to run for 3rd District Town Council, fearing I might
    get hidden support from D & R, and then crushed in Council
    Meetings, while my District & Town were debilitated.

    If I am alive.
    I INTEND to RUN for STRATFORD MAYOR.
    BALLS to the WALLS.

    Win lose or draw, I intend to legally, morally, ethically, and
    approriately attempt to EXPOSE and E V I S C E R A T E
    the A B U S E S in Town government,
    using
    MALICE towards NONE
    CHARITY toward ALL …
    ….
    NOT LOVING the SINNER,
    .
    but at least understanding them
    & protecting, mitigating, & exculpating them.
    .
    WHILE I HATE the (systemic – indoctrinated) SINS
    .
    .
    .
    There are practical reasons why after wars, former enemies
    have to be used to keep the peace in the defeated occupied
    lands ….


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