The Dark Side

27Apr10

Imagined or Real?



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464 Responses to “The Dark Side”

  1. 1 1george1

    You can google:
    Jesse Ventura, conspiracy theory – I experienced 2 of these
    decades prior to the creation of the series.

    Robber Barrons

    Standard Oil Trust

    Skull n Bones

    Trilateral Commission

    Rockefeller Drug laws

    Council on foreign affairs

    Bilderberg

    Warren Commission

    Knapp Commission

    Watergate

    Frank Church select Committee

    Iran Cotra

    White Water

    Eisenhower farewall Jan 1961

    Marshall Plan

    MLK self eulogy – I have been to the Mountain top

    Federalist papers.

    Interesting counterintuitively?
    All were staged or presented by willing government actors.

  2. 2 1george1

    We are in the second year of a new President.
    We are due for being attacked by dupes for internal reasons

    2001 > 9/11

    1993 > WTC Bomb attempt

    1989 – 1990 > Panama

    1982 > Grenada

    1977 – 78 OIL WEAPON

    1963-64 – Vietnam Escalation start

    1962 Cuban Missle

    I will look up later

    NOTE FEDERALIST PAPERS:
    # 4 “ONE GOVERNMENT ….”
    # 25 “AS FAR AS AN ARMY ….”
    # 26 “SCHEMES TO SUBVERT ….”
    # 22 “SUPPOSE, FOR INSTANCE ….
    # 25 “WE MUST RECEIVE THE BLOW….
    # 4 “BUT THE SAFETY”

  3. 3 1george1

    I PROMISED JEZE to try to place MOST of my CONSPIRACY STUFF on 1 blog line.
    There will be some spill and continuation….
    Since Jeze was kind enough to create with her work, here it is.

    My suspicion would be the French and English Parliament / Parleament would
    and the WAR COLLEGES from LORD of WAR be more appropriate than the
    pyramid / brown robe / white robe / black robe …

    Federalist Papers
    # 79 – “A POWER OVER A MAN’S SUBSISTENCE, AMOUNTS TO A POWER
    OVER HIS WILL.”

    # 4 – “One government can collect and avail itself of the talents and
    experience of the ablest men, in whatever part of the Union they
    may be found.
    It can move on uniform principles of policy. It can harmonize, assimilate,
    and protect the several parts and members, and extend the benefit of its foresight and precautions to each….
    for want of concert and unity of system.

    It can place the militia under one plan of discipline, and, by putting
    their officers in a proper line of subordination to the Chief Magistrate,
    will, as it were, consolidate them into one corps, and thereby render
    them more efficient than if divided into thirteen or into three or four
    distinct independent companies.”

    # 25 – “As far as an army may be considered as a dangerous
    weapon of power, it had better be in those hands of which
    the people are most likely to be jealous than in those of
    which they are least likely to be jealous.

    For it is a truth, which the experience of ages has attested,
    that the people are always most in danger when the
    means of injuring their rights are in the possession of
    those of whom they entertain the least suspicion.”

    # 26 – Schemes to subvert the liberties of a great community
    REQUIRE TIME to mature them for execution.
    An army, so large as seriously to menace those liberties, could only
    be formed by progressive augmentations;
    which would suppose, not merely a temporary combination between the legislature and executive, but a continued conspiracy for a series of time. …. would commence a traitor to his constituents and to his country?

    Can it be supposed that there would not be found one man, discerning enough to detect so atrocious a conspiracy, or bold or honest enough to apprise his constituents of their danger?
    If such presumptions can fairly be made, there ought at once to be an end of all delegated authority. The people should resolve to recall all the powers they have heretofore parted with out of their own hands, & to divide themselves into as many States as there are counties, in order that they may be able to manage their own concerns in person.

    # 22 – Suppose, for instance, we were engaged in a war, in conjunction
    with one foreign nation, against another.

    > Suppose the necessity of our situation demanded peace, and the
    interest or ambition of our ally led him to seek the prosecution of
    the war, with views that might justify us in making separate terms.
    (KOReAN + SO. VIETnam Wars)

    > In such a state of things, this ally of ours would evidently find it much
    easier, by his bribes and intrigues, to tie up the hands of government
    from making peace,
    (LONG WARS benefit BIG OIL + WAR BUCKS – drain USA = SUN TZU)
    where two thirds of all the votes were requisite to that object,
    than where a simple majority would suffice.
    > In the first case, he would have to corrupt smaller number;
    in the last, a greater number.
    (Traffic: Drugs + Weapons-Munitions + Oil-Gas)

    > Upon the same principle, it would be much easier for a foreign
    power with which we were at war to perplex our councils and
    embarrass our exertions.
    And, in a commercial view, we may be subjected to similar inconveniences.

    > A nation, with which we might have a treaty of commerce, could
    with much greater facility prevent our forming a connection with
    her competitor in trade, though such a connection should be ever
    so beneficial to ourselves.

    >> Evils of this description ought not to be regarded as imaginary.
    (TRILATERAL COMMISSION + O. P. E. C.)

    # 25 – We must receive the blow, before we could even
    prepare to return it.

    (Boston Massacre + 1812 Seamen impressments + Alamo + Fort Sumter + Little Big Horn “The Maine” +”The Lusitania” + Pearl Harbor (predicted Gen
    Billy Mitchell) + Gulf Tonkin + Kuwait invasion + 9/11) (3 days Condor)

    All that kind of policy by which nations anticipate distant danger, and
    meet the gathering storm, must be abstained from, as contrary to the
    genuine maxims of a free government.

    We must expose our property and liberty to the mercy of foreign
    invaders, and invite them by our weakness to seize the naked and
    defenseless prey, because we are afraid that rulers, created by
    our choice, dependent on our will, might endanger that liberty,
    by an abuse of the means necessary to its preservation.

    # 4 But the safety of the people of America against dangers from
    FOREIGN force depends not only on their forbearing to give JUST
    causes of war to other nations, but also on their placing and continuing themselves in such a situation as not to INVITE hostility or insult;
    for it need not be observed that there are PRETENDED as well as just
    causes of war.

    EISENHOWER farewell warning usurpation:
    “But threats, new in kind or degree, constantly arise.
    Of these, I mention two only.”

    1) “we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence,
    whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial (congress) complex.”

    2) “be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could
    itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”

    Jeze – you gave me a space, I shall mostly confine my conspiracy or
    vertical relationship theory of criminogenic system within.

    There will be some spill over in other posts, as noted. Thanx!

  4. 4 1george1

    Jeze,
    I am going to push my luck ….

    Any chance you could change the picture from this occult stuff like

    – WICA charge on the AQUARION WATER BILL

    – $ “666” former Town Attorney monthly stipend.

    – Pyramid Eye (all see-ing or Holy See)

    – Brown Robe / Friars

    What I would like is the pre 2001 $ 20 bill folded in the shape of an
    Airplane with UNITED on 1 wing and AMERICAN on 1 wing.

    – on 1 side the trees form SMOKE from the PENTAGON CRASH

    – on 1 side the trees form SMOKE from the TWO LEVELS of the
    CRASHES into the WTC as seen from UPTOWN, like 30 ROCK as
    ROCKEFELLER CENTER is called.

    According to the interent, the KKK is a BRANCH of MASONRY
    and their members are fittingly called GHOULS.

    I understand much of the symbolism, including GOG – MAGOG
    and the use of intellectual hegemony to convince members
    of various ancient orders to be suckered into believing much
    of similar nonsense many sprout about religeons.

    I see the sign of Masonry in Marshalls Square w USPS.

    The Blue and Orange colors of WalMart and Home Depot
    reflec the old colors of the Giants and Dodgers of NY
    and their “root” causes.

    I found it fitting that Feehan, Dick Miron, and Scot Rite
    Masons hogged credit on the WW II memorial.
    Dick sold the Stone
    Tony Ross did a great job doing the masonry with the symbolic
    Masonic columns.

    However, I strongly suspect it was mostly Masons who died in
    WW II, WW I, Spansih American War, Civil War, Revolution War
    and more.

    I am decidedly not anti-mason despite the absurd sadism and
    schadenfreude of certain groups who love creating people with
    problems analogous to Job, from the “Book of Job.”

    Every group gets betrayed by “The GREAT PRE-TENDERS.”

    At some time each of the groups looks around and learns that
    while they have messed around with other peoples’ lives, it has
    diminished their own and it strikes terror into terrorists’ minds
    when they understand

    The time approaches to
    PAY
    THE
    PIPER

  5. 5 jezebel282

    George,

    “Any chance you could change the picture from this occult stuff like”

    No.

  6. 6 1george1

    Jeze,
    Just currious > R U into

    WICCA – Occult?

    Masons – Shriners?

    Only little green men & women I have seen are march 17

    I like Star Trek / Star Wars type sci fi.
    I do not believe extra terrestials visited earth.
    I do believe the is intelligent life beyond earth.

    Why is it that governments historically attract …. ??

  7. 7 jezebel282

    George,

    Sorry….just golf and skiing.

  8. 8 1george1

    Jeze,

    are both down hill sports? 😉

  9. 9 jezebel282

    From George:

    Jeze: “No one is guiltless.”

    Why would the RTC + DTC select Town Coucilors, who appoint Town Managers,
    to create this Defined Benefit Plan?

    What is in it for the political parties’ leadership?

    Perhaps
    Kick Backs from BID WINNERS
    Kick Backs from PREFERRED VENDERS like >
    > PENSION ADMINISTRATION
    > PENSION INVESTERS
    > INSURANCE COMPANIES
    > ARCHITECTS
    > SUBCONTRACTORS / CONTRACTOR
    > VEHICLE DISTRIBUTORS, like police cars, fire trucks, p w trucks
    > REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS
    > LAWYERS
    Having PENSIONERS use benefactor accountants to do TAXES or
    lawyers to close Real Estate Deals or financial planners.

    – T O W N – C H A R T E R

    Maybe there are multiple needs for Changing the form of Government?

    1 – It was Town Council who empowered TOWN MANAGER Mark Barnhart
    to hire Labor Consultant David Dunn and all promote Department heads.

    By dumping Barnhart, for Feeney, for Branyan, for Mayoral government
    > It creates plausible deniability on oversight.
    – Barnhart to Fairfield
    – Feeney to Bridgeport
    – Branyan to Board of Ed
    – Miron to pretend to be adversarial with Feehan / Henrick Councils.

    By having constant turnovers in various Departments and allowing Esq.
    Burturla and others to hold open contracts in their own computers,
    how do we know if ANY CONTRACT or LEGAL CASE is ORIGINAL and TRUE?

    2 – By changing the form of government, it opens the door for eliminating
    grandfathered Rights of “1st Amendment Petition Government for Redress
    of grievances.”
    > 2 % Budget Cap – blown under Kelly (instead of Burturla or Florek)
    > Prohibit Financial Self Interest – NEVER ENFORCED!
    > Term Limits – Validated by Burturla to Forrester, but possibly in danger
    if a court finds a NEW TOWN CHARTER and NOT a REVISED CHARTER.

    3 – Who was on Town Charter Revision Commissions?

    D – Gavin – Chaired # 1 / helped create # 2 was R before and after Council.
    D – Miron – Against Mayor – became Mayor – deniability / credibility?
    D – Collier – Was District 1 + friend of Jim > became HARKINS FINANCE DIRECTOR?
    D – Ulawtowski – Head of Monroe DTC – Monroe has BUDGET REFERENDUMS
    She and husband collect pensions over $ 130,000 combined.
    I liked Patty. I liked Sue. I respected Gavin. I felt sorry for Jimmy.

    R – Esq Williams – Was 1991 Town Council Chair – Year of Initiative / referendums
    R – Esq Kubeck – Was 1991 Town Councilor – Year of Initiative / referendums
    and with Gavin + Henrick + T. Moore + Julian + Dempsey + Stroomer + D,
    helped create C R C # 2
    R – Paul Joy was RTC chair – bucking the system cost him dearly
    R – Chris Silhavey – Has served every Town position Council / Zoning / boe?
    R – Paul Hoydick – worked for Rudy Weisse – Married to Laura Hoydic who
    replaced HARKINS – now on Town Council – The Parking Garage directly
    helps Laura’s brother – Stephen’s Pub
    R – Malcolm Youngquist – worked for # 1 Tax Payer Sikorsky / Wife was BoE
    and worked in Registrar office

    Town Manager – Feeney (Barry Knott son in law
    Town Attorney – Kevin Kelly
    Assistants – Burturla + Florek

    The above have people I like and people who may or may not be in on a
    MASTER PLAN, if I am correct?

    Charter Revision Commission # 2 created by Henrick Town Council

    R – Esq Florek – was Stratford Housing Attorney at the time, under Miron /
    Burturla – 1991 Town Attorney under Williams/Kubic @ REFERENDUMS
    R – Esq Proto – Represented Harborside / Helped avallone w 630 Condos
    at Lordship Boulevard (no elevators = impossible to legally pass)
    (Yo – Chris – same as Hanney Contract- no PERFORMANCE BOND)
    former Attorney for the State – Former RTC Chairman
    R – Eric Booth – He and Karen Rodia only ones to question Miron – hard

    D – Esq. Jon August represents Justin and others to pensions
    D – Fredette – United Dem / Voccola now an R?
    D – Fahan – Gavin’s Campaign Manager – Now on Economic Development
    Commission

    I – Karen Rodia – wife of former police captain ($ 91k pension) Hates Mirons
    Loves Harkins -Had the most balls to ask good question on Miron.
    I – Jim Orlowe – Head of Quest, started from Oronoque. Jim is a friend.
    Tour on Economic Develepment sponsor breakfasts / lunch dinner / fact
    finding. I saw NO beneficial effect from he or Maury on Econ Development,
    which unfortunate was true when Diane Toolan (I liked alot) was head.
    It was not allowed
    I – Beth ?? – I think a teacher and Florek’s neighbor. Attended meetings.
    Voted with the rest.

    Mayor Jim Miron
    Town Attorneys – Burturla
    Assistants – Kelly, Floreck,

  10. 10 1george1

    This is not an international conspiracy

    This is mostly local activities,

    and the plausible deniability

    is analogous to higher/hire government

  11. 11 jezebel282

    From George:

    Phin,

    I recognized I had no chance to win.
    If I said or wrote otherwise, I would have lied

    Phin, have you OR ANYONE caught me in a LIE?
    Mistakes = YES
    DEBATABLE CONCLUSIONS= MANY.

    Phin the problem is systemic.

    The following is likely to be moved. However – it flows >

    The system was created to have interlocking connections which are
    completely verticaland everyone in government or business, with any
    “supposed authority” really has NONE!

    I can link Attorneys, Town Commmittee, Town Council, Education, Town
    to State Police, Criminal Attorneys, Attorney General, Senators, Congress,
    State Reps, and people who populated positions in White House, DOD,
    CIA, NSC, USPS-NALC, NLRB, EEOC, and international.

    Business. Bureaucary, Military or Police, Corporate, and ultra rick
    private sector are part of a multicenture matrix.

    Virtually everyone in Stratford is caught in a bigger trap.
    Virtually everyone in CT. is caught in a bigger trap.
    Virtually everyone in the USA is caught in a bigger trap.
    Virutally everyone in the worls is caught in a bigger trap.

    They are captives of empirics of culture. ideology, indoctrinations,
    and training.

    How does the Rogers and Hammerstein musical go?

    You’ve got to be taught to hate and fear
    You’ve got to be taught from year to year
    It’s got to be drummed in your dear little ear
    You’ve got to be carefully taught ….

    FDR proposed four fundamental freedoms that people
    “everywhere in the world” ought to enjoy:

    Freedom of speech and expression
    Freedom of religion
    Freedom from want
    Freedom from fear

    FDR: This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth,
    frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly facing conditions
    in our country today.
    This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper.
    So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to
    fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.
    In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and vigor
    has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves
    which is essential to victory.
    I am convinced that you will again give that support to leadership in these
    critical days.

    IKE: My own relations with the Congress, which began on a remote
    and tenuous basis when, long ago, a member of the Senate appointed
    me to West Point, ………..
    Despite these holocausts America is today the strongest, the most
    influential and most productive nation in the world. Understandably
    proud of this pre-eminence, we yet realize that America’s leadership
    and prestige depend, not merely upon our unmatched material progress,
    riches and military strength, but on how we use our power in the
    interests of world peace and human betterment. ………
    our basic purposes have been to keep the peace; to foster progress
    in human achievement, and to enhance liberty, dignity and integrity
    among people and among nations. …………….
    We face a hostile ideology — global in scope, atheistic in character,
    ruthless in purpose, and insidious in method…..

    Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by
    any of my predecessors in peacetime
    Threats, new in kind or degree, constantly arise. I mention two only.

    1 – In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition
    of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the
    ” military industrial (Congressional) complex. ”
    The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties
    or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted.
    Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing
    of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

    The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government

    2 – in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should,
    we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy
    could itself become the captive of a ” scientific technological elite. ” —

    largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military
    posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

    In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

    The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present

    and is gravely to be regarded.

    George Marshall: …

    The remedy lies in breaking the vicious circle and restoring
    the confidence of the European people in the economic future
    of their own countries and of Europe as a whole.
    The manufacturer and the farmer throughout wide areas must be
    able and willing to exchange their products for currencies the
    continuing value of which is not open to question.

    It is logical that the United States should do whatever it is able to
    do to assist in the return of normal economic health in the world,
    without which there can be no political stability and no assured
    peace.
    Our policy is directed not against any country or doctrine but against
    hunger, poverty, desperation and chaos. Its purpose should be the
    revival of a working economy in the world so as to permit the emergence
    of political and social conditions in which free institutions can exist.
    Such assistance, I am convinced, must not be on a piecemeal basis as
    various crises develop. Any assistance that this Government may render
    in the future should provide a cure rather than a mere palliative.
    Any government that is willing to assist in the task of recovery will
    find full co-operation I am sure, on the part of the United States
    Government.
    Any government which maneuvers to block the recovery of other
    countries cannot expect help from us.
    Furthermore, governments, political parties, or groups which seek
    to perpetuate human misery in order to profit therefrom politically
    or otherwise will encounter the opposition of the United States.

    An essential part of any successful action on the part of the United
    States is an understanding on the part of the people of America of
    the character of the problem and the remedies to be applied.
    Political passion and prejudice should have no part.
    With foresight, and a willingness on the part of our people to face up
    to the vast responsibility which history has clearly placed upon our
    country,

    Replace ANGER for today’s USA for FDR’s warning about “FEAR.”

    Replace USA of today for Europe of the Marshall Plan warning.

    Replace IKE’s non descript generalist warning
    with what happened to the USA with
    “undeclared wars” > Weapons/Munitions > production – trade
    “drugs” & DEA
    “ATF & e”
    “Mafia Cash Cows” Vice related
    Oil – Natural Gas – Coal – Wealth Transfer for Military-Indusrial Complez.

    What do they have to do with Stratford?

    If the police / fire / teachers are looking at all the goodies going to
    their counterparts around the USA, they get sense of entitlement.
    It is easy to get suckered.

    If the Bar Association leadership and leaderships of the Democratic
    and Republican Political parties nationwide have drifted from their
    Constitutional fiduciary obligation, due to greed, it is easy enough
    to be swayed.

    If at the national level they need to corrupt and control every
    elected / appointed at each level of government …. that might
    be the “NORM” for seductible “DICKS.”

    Teachers, Police, Fire, PW, Chamber, Business, etc are often the
    cornerstone of a community

    Everyone can be seduced, especially when there is PEER PRESSURE
    and when everyone is being “bought” and non transparent.

    Are State Troopers, FBI, POLICE, U. S. Attorney, Judges, elected all
    willing to be TRAITORS against the system that was good to them?
    Especially whan many are VETS?
    – I think not!

    It takes an ASSHOLE like me to be willing to SLAPP them in the faces
    in writing and verbally, in a manner that get’s their attention, while
    giving them a BACK DOOR to step out… then to join back the public
    who are also their family and friends and neighbors.

    Hell the MAFIA is ULTRA PATRIOTIC.

    People need to see what they can LOSE
    in order to be willing to yield ILL GOTTEN GAINS.

    Since 1984, I have worked to create a peaceful implosion against
    the cause of my problems and those of others.
    It is a mindset.

    Unlike Socrates and philosophers, I lack the intelligence.
    Unlike Moses, Christ, Martin Luther, or MLK Jr, I lack the love of god
    andbelief in the religion.

    Unlike Ghandi & MLK jr, I had no interest in leading a movement, nor
    exposing others to danger.

    Unlike Machiavelli, Payne, Sun Tzu, Marx, and Clauswitz – I desired
    to work against the reinforcing self perpetuating vicious cycles of
    violence.

    In 1987, I found the spoils key and understood the nature of power,
    where a peacefull means could be used to vacate violence.

    So far, it has not worked.

    If the workers, political people, and public “man up”
    My whispers to enemies mine can leverage change in mind sets.

    Archimedes … Give me a lever … I can move the world….

    Often my letters to the editor, e-mails, and blog posts were meant
    for computer monitors, NO ONE in STRATFORD would dream was
    watching.

    Time to take off my tin foil cap and get badly needed beauty sleep.

    Hopefully by the time Mike R’s son gets into Jr. HS or SH, the DRUGS
    and WORST scenarios to turn children into FODDER can be eliminated!

    To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there’s the rub;
    For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
    When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
    Must give us pause: there’s the respect
    That makes calamity of so long life;
    For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
    The oppressor’s wrong, the proud man’s contumely,
    The pangs of despised love, the law’s delay,
    The insolence of office and the spurns
    That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
    When he himself might his quietus make
    With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
    To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
    But that the dread of something after death,
    The undiscover’d country from whose bourn
    No traveller returns, puzzles the will
    And makes us rather bear those ills we have
    Than fly to others that we know not of?

    To be, or not to be: that is the question:
    Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
    The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
    Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
    And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
    No more; and by a sleep to say we end
    The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
    That flesh is heir to, ’tis a consummation
    Devoutly to be wish’d. To die, to sleep;

    And makes us rather bear those ills we have
    Than fly to others that we know not of?
    Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
    And thus the native hue of resolution
    Is sicklied o’er with the pale cast of thought,
    And enterprises of great pith and moment
    With this regard their currents turn awry,
    And lose the name of action. – Soft you now!
    The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons
    Be all my sins remember’d.

  12. 12 1george1

    Sorry Jeze,
    The above belongs here.
    However it did not start that way, as I noted in prior e-mail,
    this will happen.

    If I intend on outside stratford issues – it definitely will come here.

  13. 13 sudds

    Sorry folks, but I GOTTA do it…

    Hey George… how come you don’t have any postings about Star Wars Day??? (“May the Fourth be with you”)

    😛

  14. 14 jezebel282

    Oy vey…

    Have you no shame?

  15. 15 1george1

    (“May the Fourth be with you”)

    Sudds I lub it!

    I seem to remember posting about Darth DeCilio?

    I have to e-mail you pictures of Senators Palpatine and Lieberman.
    Definite facial and political similarities!

    Jeze,
    Was that a rhettorical question of Sudds?

    Actually he has a unique sense of humor and comedians are among
    the most cynical and spot on social commentators.
    George Carlin
    Richard Prior
    Chris Rock
    Lenny Bruce

    Why Sudds is a wiseass, he occasionally hits an ass toot comment or
    gets a LOL or GROAN.

    I vote to keep him around.

  16. 16 jezebel282

    George,

    “I vote to keep him around.”

    Forget it. I don’t think Mrs. Sudds is going to share the halo. She earned it fair & square.

  17. 17 sudds

    “I vote to keep him around.”

    George… I’ve voted for you twice… so you still owe me one!!! 🙂

  18. 18 1george1

    Sudds
    I thoght you were an effective speaker at the Budget Hearing.

    Sudds,
    I took no one’s money in any of ny campaigns.
    One person ran copies of prep for Oronoque, as I ran out of ink
    A couple people helped with signs.

    If you were 😉 dumb enought 😉 to vote for me twice
    or highly intelligent enough 8) to recognize honest disclosure
    and reward me with your vote, I can say thank you for voting
    for YOUR BEST INTEREST and STRATFORD’S BEST ONTEREST.

    Publicly at the forum I mentioned to MATT how happy I was that
    he beat me for Town Council and I privately told the same thing
    to John Harkins aout Mayor – last night.


    I told the Town Council it is they who will sign the Budget.
    Not the MAYOR or PREVIOUS Councils.
    I made ISSUE about the HELD BACK ACTUARY REPORT
    (Sue gave it to me, IMMEDIATELY “AFTER” I spoke)
    I asked how ANYONE can SIGN a BUDGET, when everyone was KEPT
    IN THE DARK about PENSIONS –

    =============================================================
    1 QUICK ISSUE on DEFINED BENEFIT PENSIONS = Actuary Report
    where Henrick claimed “Norm Aldrich solved the PROBLEM.”
    It is an EXACT QUOTE (I won’t get into Mike’s quote on Mike’s Values)

    1 – 598 PENSIONERS get $ 17.4 Million ……… as of July 2009
    2 – As of July 1, 2009 there were 372 active people yet to retire.
    3 – If you look at the trend on PENSIONS, a case can be made the
    average future PENSION will be over $ 50,000 / $ 60,000 x 372
    $50 k x 372 = $ 18.6 million added to $ 17.4 m = $ 36 million minus deaths
    $60 k x 372 = $ 18.6 million added to $ 22.32 m = $ 39.72 million minus deaths

    The way the federal government is handling social security problems
    is limiting social security paynent, which effectualy help expedite deaths
    ======================back to Tuesnight ===============================

    I asked the Town Council MULTIPLE TIMES, including both Hearing
    to give extra money to the Library for Library Researchers with
    Masters Degrees degrees in Library Sciences to find a variety of
    Savings and Revenues.

    I told the Town Council to CUT the BUDGET by 10 % everywhere
    but the Library and make the Town + BoE figure out how to make
    it work.

    Further, I put Stratford in context, this situation is happening
    nation wide. One page of my 3 page hand out were quote from
    FDR / IKE / Geo Marshall which are appropriate, in tougher times.

    The 6 pillars of Character were missing.
    The partial truths by Teacher’s union reps were repulsive.

    Top Pay $ 88 – $ 94,000 + 40 % normal benefit package and they have
    a $ 17,000 annual insurance package a minimum 3 times the price of
    any private sector paskage = $ 150,000 annually from Tax Payers.

    I recommended they do what Irene Cornish did, in keeping her package
    and then donating back significant savings.

    Or next Budget, JOBS – a lot of JOBS will be lost or I expect people who
    lose jobs, homes. retirement savings, and pensions will committ violence.

    Our street had it’s 3rd foreclosure in 1 year.
    The biggest house on the street.
    Over 7,600 sq ft + 9 bathrooms
    On Market for $ 2.4 million last year.
    forclosed for $ 1.2 million and being cleaned out today / past week.

    This summer shall be devastating.
    I politely made sure Malloy, Collier, Council, + Harkins knew!

    They have to know Gavin, Kubik, Moore, Henrick, Feehan, Norm,
    Darth DeCilio / Wm Cabrol, Camillo, Mirons, Burturlas, and others
    put Bulls eyes on them.

    I found it amusing Alvin was the only former Town Council intelligent
    enough to step forward and be against any Tax Increase or Mayor’s
    desired Tax increase = called political posturing.

    Rick Marcone also spoke for minimizing taxes, as did Eleanor + Diane.

    To my knowledge – I was the ONLY PERSON who
    1 -asked for 10 % Tax DECREASE
    2 – Suggested ways to CUT COSTS and RAISE REVENUES

    FACT
    NO BOAST

    Realistic – Who cares!
    They will likely do whatever they are told to do.

    When, not if, someone turns violent … I hope he / she / they don’t hit me.

  19. 19 sudds

    “Sudds
    I thoght you were an effective speaker at the Budget Hearing.”

    Ummm… THANKS… what did I say???

  20. 20 1george1

    8) PER USUAL 🙂

  21. 21 sudds

    Psst… George… that was NOT me!!!

  22. 22 1george1

    Psst Sudds …. even if it was you … I would not out you
    by describing what you said “that” night. 😉

    If you were there I could tease you about your comments
    and my inability to describe those comments, which could
    identify you to the mIRON CURTAIN.

    Sudds, if you were NOT there I could tease you about NOT
    VOICING your comments in person, NOR doing your Civic
    responsibilty, to attend and assist in the process

    Either way, I could have a little fun with you
    and get you to respond, one way or another.

    It was a no lose posting gambit ….

    I could not get the joker to go wild. 😦 🙂
    I was able to get the joker to turn over a hole card…. 😉

  23. 23 sudds

    Trust me George… it was NOT me!!!

  24. 24 jezebel282

    George,

    I hear Sudds was seen entering Scruples that night with singles and fives dropping from his pockets.

  25. 25 1george1

    Sudds,
    I was playing with you.
    Jeze is having some fun too.

    I will drop pickin on ya for awhile … unless 😉

  26. 26 sudds

    “with singles and fives dropping from his pockets.”

    LOL… you think Mrs. Sudds allows me to have money???

  27. 27 1george1

    I pass.

  28. 28 jezebel282

    Update:

    I can confirm that Rich Weizel was let go from the CT Post. We wish Rich and extreme amount of luck in this economy finding work especially within an industry like print journalism. (The blog industry doesn’t pay much either).

    We applaud Mr. Weizel’s outrage and perseverance during the Miron years. Mr. Weizel did his best to cover the muck that existed in Town Hall. We did wish occasionally that he would have used a digital recorder to get some quotes correctly, but that is a minor complaint when compared to his body of work.

    The Post has apparently decided to move to a tabloid style format in an attempt to attract a new audience: Illiterate people.

  29. 29 1george1

    Let there be light!

  30. 30 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    1) ” NARCISSUS”
    (pronounced /nɑrˈsɪsəs/)[1] is the botanic name for a genus of mainly
    hardy, mostly spring-flowering, bulbs in the Amaryllis family native to
    Europe, North Africa, and Asia.

    Daffodil is a common English name, sometimes used now for all varieties,
    and is the chief common name of horticultural prevalence used by the
    American Daffodil Society

    2) ” NARCISSISM”
    is the personality trait of egotism, often used as a pejorative, denoting
    vanity, conceit, egotism or simple selfishness.

    Applied to a social group, it is sometimes used to denote elitism
    or an indifference to the plight of others.

    Applied to a social (or political/government) group
    elitism
    or an indifference to the plight of others.

    Applied to a social (or political/government) group
    elitism
    or an indifference to the plight of others.

    How many of the greatest generation had to sell homes or died
    from economic related causes because of the Mirons / Burturlas /
    Berchems / Country Club / Hartford / DC / NYC / OTHERS

    Applied to a social (or political/government) group
    elitism
    or an indifference to the plight of others.

    WHAT IF THIS WAS YOUR MOM or DAD or GRAMMA / GRANDDAD?

    A couple years ago, I let the thermostat get low.
    I caught a cold.
    The cold became bronchitis.
    The cold / bronchitis became pneumonia.
    Had I been older and more frail and with less resources it could have
    been fatal?

    There is a fiduciary obligation in being police, fire, ems, councilor,
    manager which transcends the immediate job description.

    I know there are many very, very good people in government and in
    the political parties, and who read this blog.

    There are also jerks and selfish …..

    Mirror, Mirror on the wall
    who and what are the F A I R E S T among us all?

    G-d bless – sleep well –
    may an epithany happen like paul of tarsus …
    changing from abuse and persecution to helping and tolerance

    and this from a free masonry web site:

    In his famous book Democracy in America, Alexis de Tocqueville,
    a Frenchman, summed up, among other things, the American
    inclination to form all kinds of voluntary groups aimed at civic
    improvement and the general betterment of society.

    Tocqueville was writing at a time when most Americans lived in
    small and self-contained communities.

    Jewish values are grounded on and derived from the idea of
    covenant which in itself embodies a basic value:

    the idea that humans establish institutions and relationships
    on grounds of a fundamental equality and based upon freely
    choosing to do so.

    Free will is the purported ability of agents to make choices free
    from constraints.

    The Golden Rule is an ethical code that states one has a right to
    just treatment, and a responsibility to ensure justice for others

  31. 31 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    as a form of anagram, like today’s stratford star:

    SILLY

    RA

    MA

    R O T F L M A O

    Sylvia loved troublemakers and would stir the pot,
    according to a friend of hers I spoke to recently.

    He said she was right far more often then ….

    He also said RAY was both BRILLIANT and HONEST.

    He knew both for many years, as a D.

    My favorite town R might surprize some people?

    He stunned me when one time I mentioned RAY.
    He stated simply …. “I loved that man.”

    I had heard various things from various people about
    RAY + SYL
    I make up my own mind.

    I did not know either until near the end of their lives.
    I liked them.
    This town could use a few more constructive troublemakers….

  32. 32 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    I did not realize you were a STAR T (w)REC(k) fan?

    You are welcomed to CLING ON (Klingon) to your beliefs.
    WARf (s) was the SEDERation “tag name” personification.

    RA is that anglicized name for the Egyptian SUN GOD,
    MA sons / R(h)o MA have some related beliefs,
    SILLY are some peoples’ beliefs …. perhaps including mine? 8)

    JAMES (as in the KJV)
    TIBERiU.S. (Tiber river)
    KIRK (SCOT church)

    was our Hugh Hefner / John Wayne hero.
    With his TV dalliances …. I wonder how many intergalactic venerial
    diseases he should have contacted?

    Some of THOSE bugs ……

    SPOCK was named for the BABY DOCTOR of our Generation.

    BONES (Skull and?) was part of the skeleten main crew.

    SCOTTY (Scot rite) was the engineer.

    Many of those mini-morality plays were lifted from the BIBLE
    or variances from SHAKESPEARE …. where no man goes before?

    VULCANS appeared to be a roman counter point to the werewolf
    like KLING ONS, who both had cloaks of invisibility and were enemies
    of the FEDERATION.
    The former were were mostly Stolid philosophers, except when mating.
    The LATTER were had the personalities of WAR college gremlins, who
    would have loved CAESAR’S COMMENTARIES …. in LATIN.

    The FerENGie, reminded us of the W F BUCKLEY / Yankee Traders,
    where any lie would do.
    These people are found on WALL STREET / CONGRESS / COURTS
    EXECUTIVE / many businesses and walks of LIFE.

    I thought the BAJORAN were created as a counterpoint to israel /
    right of return ….?

    The BORG (like BORK) were part of the COLLECTIVE out to assimilate
    or DESTROY …. kind like the 5 UN permanent members of the SECURITY
    COUNCIL – USA + BRITAIN + RUSSIA + CHINA + FRANCE … (France?)

    According to documentation and the movie “Lord of War,” those are
    the 5 largest weapons manufacturers / traders in the WORLD.

    Sorry Ron, I can’t remember many of the other ALIENS, now.

  33. 33 1george1

    I do not have copies of the plans, however we are hearing there are plans
    to move residents of Bridgeport’s East end into Stratford Districts
    2, 4, and 5, where there are OLDER HOUSING perfect for new ZONING for
    higher density “affordable housing.”
    In the Economic Community Development map legends,that is high minority
    population

    By expanding the Airport, increased Jet noice / traffic / pollution along
    with increased worker / condo / business density on AVCO + pollution
    will destroy property values in Distrcits 1 + 3.
    District 3 has gained substancial hispanic growth and property values are
    extremely vulnerable to RAYMARK DUMPSITES + GROUND WATER.
    District 6 borders RAYMARK and is targeted for dibilitation.

    Rumor is BERCHEM / OTHER FIRMS look to cash in on much greater potential
    revenue building up Bridgeport while debilitating Stratford, whereas Bridgeport
    intent to oursource Poperty Value retardents to Stratford by:

    increasing CAPITAL DEBT
    increasing PENSION OBLIGATIONS;
    decreasing REVENUES like UNFUNDED MANDATES
    avoiding containment of cost and cost avoidance
    stagnating ECONOMIC GROWTH – Tax Base
    calculated unequalized Tax burdens at rotating Targets
    perpetuating ENVIRONMENTAL TOXIN issues driving down property values
    expanding AIRPORT
    delaying SHAKESPEARE
    I – 95 Bridge / # 33 Ramp issues, related to groundwater / traffick / noise
    / air pollution

    Reason so many people in Board of Education and Town Government are
    living out of Town and being brought into Stratford from the outside is
    THEY PAY NO PROPERTY TAX
    THEY HAVE NO INVESTMENT IN STRATFORD
    THEY HAVE NO FAMILY or LOYALTY to STRATFORD
    MANY SUPERFICIAL INVESTMENTS pertain to CASHING OUT – moving
    MANY SUPERFICIAL ZONING CHANGES forebode “massive affordable housing”
    along the Bridgeport Border, including forcing out Stoney Brook long term
    residence with targeted taxation inflation to gain the property for devloper.
    Keating Ford rumored to become low income housing / apartment complex.
    The 630 Condo’s with NO ELEVATOR on Lordship Boulevard was TRIAL BALLOON
    as fore runner to future actions all along Southwest / Central Stratford,
    which will over whelm the School System and affordable Taxes.

    Note Jim Miron statement “stratford should consider population growth,”

  34. 34 1george1

    Irony

    We know how Sylvia felt about certain people.

    Sylvia felt Miron / Burturla worked with certain people.

    It appears people in Ray’s Disctrict, specifically Stoney Brook
    have been made hard targets, as wll as Lordship (Airport)
    and Districts 3 & 6 (Raymark).

    Jimmy spent a lot of money in Districts 2 + 4, with Democrats
    thinking he was trying to buy re-election, spending there.
    It is not like the RTC ever spent money on minorities or low
    or fixed income, since those were NOT Country Club potential
    members where the RTC could MILK for Political Donations or
    desirable Business accounts.

  35. 35 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    Now to deviate and improvise:

    ===

    March 18 my home was broken into and files deleted.
    Mayor Harkins’ handlers choose the date / time, after 6 week delays.
    It was 49 th anniversary of my mom’s death. sending me message.

    Last week I was called for job (supplemental) interview for this afternoon
    and I had to meet a professional this am.

    Naturally my phone had issues last night and A T & T scheduled repair for
    today, when I would not be ABLE to be around.

    I saw the AT & T lineman.
    I made sure he knew that my home was booby trapped.
    Let him guess details.
    Then I met the professional for 1 hour 10 – 11 am.
    10:38 my off site voice mail captured the expected postponement for
    the job interview, towards supplemental income.

    Scum bags who run the system and their flunkies are not very intelligent.

    However they inherited the toys made by geniuses. The USA political
    injustice / military intelligence handling people personify the peter
    principal and the paul stratification.

    Creatures like Mirons / Bururlas / Norms / Berchem / Justice / handlers
    and their directors are predictable, anal, cowardly, bullies who have no redeeming qualities.

  36. 36 1george1

    Jeze,

    Fair enough.

    Although I believe to deviate and improvize, inspired by continuing a blog
    string blogs with the germinating situation, I can work with this.

    I believe relevant.
    You don’t.
    Not big deal to me.
    As long as I can try to protect the innocent
    and perhaps motivate the guilty to change their ways ….

    unlikely

    I am looking forward to GAVIN’S answer to my counter points!

    It is possible that as smart as GAVIN is, he is too involved with
    the specific details, that he could not step back and see the
    grand strategy and tactics employeed by people using other
    people’s hegmonistic perspectives against them.

    USA Generalism from Liberal Arts has been overwhelmed by the
    focus of Specialism and compartmentalization, whereas people
    do not understand inter relationships.

    Gavin is a bit like Al Capone’s bookkeeper, as is Tom Malloy,
    Norko, Dean Moore, Tom’s Moore’s buddy Tom Angelo and a
    few others. Sooner or later …..

  37. 37 jezebel282

    George,

    I respect Mr. Forrester’s integrity. I only want an understanding of the problem.

  38. 38 1george1

    Jeze,

    I respect Mr. Forrester’s intelligence, expertise, and community service.

    I want to respect Gavin’s integrity. I really do.
    I can attribute a wide range of reasons for decisions I consider inconsistent?

    I recently spoke to a long time democrat who was pretty drunk and very
    truthful. I was surpized at his perceptions of different people involved in
    town politics related to being in either party. His experiences were much
    different than mine, contributing to the ascripted traits.

    We definitely did agree on Mr. Forrester’s intelligence, expertise, and
    community service.

    George, – I respect Mr. Forrester’s integrity. I only want an
    understanding of the problem.

    Jeze – I would like to play nickle dime / quarter half poker
    with Gavin, to get a better feel for his thought process?
    I truly, truly, truly get mixed signals from his acts / words.
    It would be interesting.

    Almost 30 years ago, I sat down to a game of Texas Hold’em
    in Las Vegas, after watching for 3 hours to figure the game.
    I started with only $ 40> I kicked in $ 20 more to win a hand.
    By the 10th hand I was out $ 60, but enjoyed the experience.

    Two days later I was home and watched the wide world of
    sports for the World Series of Poker. Final table was Doyle
    Brunson and 2 other men I played in Vegas.

    The pros don’t care about losing a few hands,
    The pros care about getting you to put up as much money
    as they can get you to kick in!

    Russia’s national game is chess = memory
    USA national game is poker = memory, intuition, calculated risk,
    maximizing ROI.

  39. 39 jezebel282

    George,

    The difficulty with your metaphor is that poker players have skin in the game. I have yet to hear that Mr. Forrester has ever made a penny from his service to the Town. He has dedicated countless hours and knowledge to the Town.

    That is a fact.

    Again, if we don’t know how we got here, how are we going to figure out how to get out?

  40. 40 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    In fairness to non servers, I spent 6 years from age 12 to 18 in the
    U S NAVAL RESERVE SEA CADETS, and had no intention of signing up
    for the military, which I respect and I honor true heroes.
    A) If my family wanted me to join or if I felt the need, I would have….
    B) I was the sole son
    C) I had a high draft number – according to a relative – I had not known or cared.
    D) My weight would not have allowed me to be accepted.

    I never sought a deferment.
    I had a 1 1/2 years of college where I did not want any, but did as family …

    I was and am just a stiff who wanted to a decent job and pay, to enjoy life.
    There are pathetic inhuman monsters who have a need to use and abuse people
    and have no redeeming values.

    Unfortunately circumstances placed them in positions to access and use toys which are very sophistocated and disproportionatly powerful. They are all ego and absolutely no self respect who are indoctrinated with warped values.

  41. 41 jezebel282

    George,

    Plan A is a very important topic that effects every homeowner in Stratford. I’m going to be fairly strict on relevancy here. Distractions of your personal life tend to kill relevant conversation.

  42. 42 1george1

    Hi Jeze,

    Reply: I do try to comply with your requests.
    The first portion of my post tend to relate, while I drift rather than
    go find relevant which I am unsure of while composing.

    I agree this Pension issue is of importance to every tax payer.
    Had the Pensions been honestly administered and kept to the Bond as
    promised, without the “problems,” Stratford Mil rate would be lower.
    1 – The 3.9 Mils extra going directly to pensioners
    2 – The Pension Shortfalls + Bond repayment

    Next year the Bond Interest + Premium of over $ 9.1 million annually
    with projected $ 8.6 million pension shortfall = $ 17.7 million

    Then add the Health Insurance coverage, whose agents made a report
    to the Tom Moore FAC stating, before anything else, they were a referal
    from Norm Aldridge.

    Note the BUDGETS hemerage on PENSIONS and INSURANCES much higher
    than national averages and question who gets referral (kickback) fees?

    Then take a look at Portfolio performance since 1998.

    Then take a look at Defined Benefit Plan since inception and who created
    and allowed it? Who benefitted? for whom were exceptions made?

    Then look at names of people past present on Town Committees and on
    the lists of workers, retirees, contractors and subcontractors.

    I am semi expecting Town Council and BoE meeting to also be moved to
    Mill River Country club (like RTC) to keep the public from participating?

    Unfortunately it is KNOWN POLITICAL PRACTICE to discourage VOTERS
    from being ACTIVE as CANDIDATES or VOTERS, SPECIFICALLY to increase
    the effect of the TAMMANY HALL voter.

    Jobs + Pay + Benefits + Pensions for Votes + Donations + Support
    Contracts awarded + Change Orders + Referals/Kick Backs for
    Votes + Donations + Support

  43. 43 jezebel282

    George,

    “Premium of over $ 9.1 million annually
    with projected $ 8.6 million pension shortfall = $ 17.7 million”

    I really don’t care about innuendo, veiled references and conspiracy theories.

    What taxpayers deserve is an actual accounting.

    If what Mr. Forrester said was true and the Councils passed every requested penny, then why is there a shortfall?

    It is not a complex question. But guessing and guilt by association won’t cut it. We are entitled to facts.

    On one side we have dedicated, brave town employees who have dedicated their adult lives (sometimes risking them) to serving us. On the other side, we have at best a murky knowledge that something is wrong.

    Both the taxpayers and employees deserve answers.

  44. 44 1george1

    Jeze,

    The 20 year pension bond repayment is between $ 9.1 – $ 9.2 million,
    The pension shortfall deposits have gone up every years since 2002,
    when THAT Town Council made NO PAYMENT and TRANSFERRED
    DEBT to TAX PAYERS.

    THAT Town Council created a 3 year GOLDEN PARACHUTE where people
    from BoE, Town Hall and elsewhere caused remarkable 63 people to retire.
    Check with you Fire / Police Union friends.

    THOSE ARE FREAPIN FACTS.

    Also a FACT is GAVIN was a 6 year Town Council and Pension Board member,
    who NEVER, repeat NEVER exposed the explosive PENSIONS you FINALLY
    recognize as a PROBLEM.

    GAVIN was on the MIRON / FEEHAN + MIRON / HENRICH years where PENSIONS
    went up 42 % from Jan 2006 to July 2009 (43 months).

    GAVIN voted on the BRANYAN / CRUDO?? + MIRON / FEEHAN BUDGETS which
    had BUDGETED O. T. for POLICE FIRE, under Imbro / Burturla + Fire Chiefs,
    which CAUSED the 42% PENSION OBLIGATION increase in 43 months.

    THOSE JEZE are not innuendo – those are FACTS.

    It is also a fact the BOARD of EDUCATION insurance company presented to
    the FAC and first thing they said – Norm Aldrich referred us.

    Who were Miron’s Town Attorneys & Board of Ed Attorneys?
    Berchem Moses & Devlin
    > Bishop, Kelly, & Jackson
    > Florek & O’Neill

    Who are Harkin’s Town Attorneys & Board of Ed Attorneys?
    Bishop, Kelly, & Jackson
    > Berchem Moses & Devlin – BoE & retain over 60 % Town Case in their Computer
    > Florek & O’Neill

    Jeze, I believe Mirons friends and some of your / Harkins friends aare
    Liars, Cheats, and worse.

    No innuendo.
    Facts speak for themselves.
    Circumstances speak for themselves.

    We can draw different conclusions and have different opinions.

  45. 45 1george1

    The Acturary report contains the page 9 Total Contributions as:

    July 1, 2008 > $ 7,233,412
    July 1, 2009 > $ 8,526,398

    The Budget specifically shows the exact Pension Bond repayment
    of OVER $ 9.1 Million for Principle and interest.

    The figures are publicly posted and available, although the Actuary
    report was supposed to be available about Oct / Nov 2009 and became
    available May 6, 2010. having been composed April 28, 2010.

    However, certain information appeared to have been held back, before
    the final report could be printed (Innuendo?)
    Fact? The January Pension Shortfall deposit was made, included adding
    over $ 150,000 beyond the prior estimate.

    Jeze you are welcome for me trying to make transparent what your
    political enemies and political allies KEEP MURKY!!!! 8)

  46. 46 1george1

    JULY 1 2008 = 30.1%
    JULY 1, 2009 = 35.2%

    Total Town Contribution as a percent of payroll.

    Wait who was Mayor and who was on Town Council when the town
    was contributing a average of 32.65% over payroll to cover pensions,
    while fully funded percentage is under 40 %?

    I will give you a guess about the “initials” of the smartest and best financial
    expert Town Councilor was “Gavin Forrester:”
    “no good deed goes unpunished !”

    Jeze – take off the blinders as the answer is in front of you, but your
    prejudices refuse to accept that some of your friends/allies and enemies
    have a sense of entitlement:

    ==
    I really don’t care about innuendo, veiled references and
    conspiracy theories.
    (What if the facts and circumstances lead back to your enemies and
    allies who have vested interests to WORK TOGETHER in Town / BoE,
    with State and Federal personnel in CT, who came or were appointed
    by people selectd from LOCAL / STATE PARTIES, like Governor, Senators,
    congress, state senate, state house into State Police/Attorneys/Judges?
    Or approve Justice Attorneys / FBI / Fed Judges and local rank police
    and Attorneys – Walt Kelly’s POGO: “We met the enemy…. he is US!”)

    What taxpayers deserve is an actual accounting.
    (I am a failure for trying to simply explain FACTS and accounting – but
    some accounting by Town/BoE is intentionally confusing – other issues
    are due to failure of Public’s due dilligence)

    If what Mr. Forrester said was true and the Councils passed every
    requested penny, then why is there a shortfall?
    (Gavin was factual. I explained why there is shortfall:
    1 – Underperforming pension portfolio investment (worse than bad market)
    2 – Exploding obligations up 540 % since 1994 / up 42% Jan 06 – July 09
    3 – Expanded members: Gold parachute Defined Plan 2002-2003 BoE/Town Hall
    4 – Town Committees/Councils – Managers/Mayor – Dept heads/worker against
    general Tax Payers

    It is not a complex question. But guessing and guilt by association
    won’t cut it. We are entitled to facts.
    (What if the fact lead you to same conclusion I/others draw?)

    > On one side we have dedicated, brave town employees who have
    dedicated their adult lives (sometimes risking them) to serving us.
    (and want the best possible deal they can get – same as anyone?)

    On the other side, we have at best a murky knowledge that something
    is wrong. Both the taxpayers and employees deserve answers.
    (YUP ! Been there for years. Glad to have more members to the club)

  47. 47 jezebel282

    “Doesn’t the DTC meet tonight where Jim Miron”

    It occurs to me that a nomination of James R. Miron would be more than a nice gift to Kevin Kelly.

    It also occurs to me that Berchem Moses and Devlin (you know, Rich Buturla’s firm?) are STILL billing the Town. And who controls that billing? None other than Kevin Kelly’s partner, Tim Bishop.

    What a nice gift to Kevin Kelly; nominating ex Mayor Moron.

  48. 48 1george1

    Tonight the Town Council Ordinance Committee referred a new ordinance
    for vote to the Town Council to raise discretionary spending by Town Attorney
    from $ 2,500 to $ 50,000, conditioned on a monthly report.

    The explanation was to keep more of the work in house and avoid litigation
    costs.

    At a brief recess, I was already standing at the public forum podium and asked
    Tim Bishop (could be heard by Council)
    1 – What about Checks and Balances?
    2 – What about the Town Council Town Charter Financial fiduciary …
    3 – What about giving Town Attorneys a blank check?

    After the recess Matt Catalano asked about a hypothical situation where
    a future Town Attorney was writing $ 20,000 / $ 40,000 / $ 30.000 checks?

    I stated loud enough to be heard – I remember that.

    It broke up some people.

  49. 49 jezebel282

    George,

    “raise discretionary spending by Town Attorney from $ 2,500 to $ 50,000, conditioned on a monthly report.”

    Seriously? Are you kidding us?

    A TWENTY fold increase in discretionary spending? Just a monthly report? “Oh, here is the report. I spent $48,950 last month.”

    I think I’m gonna be sick….

  50. 50 1george1

    There was some sort of change in the FLOOD PLAIN LAW – EPA.
    I was not happy with the potential danger.

    There was a raise of your Sewer Treatment Tax from $ 250 to $ 280.
    I was only one to address that in Public Hearing.
    I channeled Ed Hargus pointing to seniors who pay more Taxes than their
    homes cost.

    I am disappointed that Tom Malloy has been completely unmoved.
    Paul Hoydic, Chris Barnaby, Stepnaie and Matt Catalano expressed concern.
    They still all voted unanimously on everything.

    To be fair there were some “friendly” amendments.

    Jason and Scott seem to vote the party line.

    Conners was not part of that Committee, but drove back from vacation,
    Kim Meuse, John Dempsey were not there for ordinance, which they
    may have not been on?

    Chris, Step, Matt, Jason, Scott, Malloy, Paul, present
    Jim, Kim, John not there.

    Very, very sophisticated personnnel moves, include “risk management”
    toward point counterpoint nomenklatura for local and state proxies,

    Those were only my obstacles, not my end game.

    While the controllers and handlers were running me thru the maze to
    beat me and manipulate me, they exposed themselves, IF, IF there are
    a superior surveillance.

  51. 51 1george1

    Jeze,

    My first thought was the same 2000% factor or 20 times there prior amount.

    The second thought is this was part of the time tabled plan.
    Then it becomes why?

    A thought could be to pay Christian and Justin $ 49,000 each under seal to
    fund Dick”s restitution.

    Malloy led the roll over and asked more “good questions” about the ice cream
    truck ordinance than about the blank check handed to Town Attorney office.

    I wish I was kidding you.

    However, this lays foundation for pushing out Tim Bishop and bringing back
    Burturla as Town Attorney around/after June BUDGET?

    Apparently Kevin Kelly won his nomination too, so there appears to be
    a huge payola in the works, for him to want to run for state office
    and give up his very high billing rates and leave his young family.

  52. 52 jezebel282

    George,

    “for him to want to run for state office
    and give up his very high billing rates and leave his young family.”

    State Senator is NOT a full time job. There is no requirement to give up anything. Besides, how could an attorney profit from being in the State Capitol on a regular basis?

  53. 53 1george1

    JEZE

    What are the days and hours of State Senate in Hartford?
    (away from his practice)

    The commute is over 1 hour each way (down time).

    How could an attorney profit from being in the State
    Capital on a regular basis?
    Hypothetically:
    > do you mean besides what has been paid already?
    > do you mean besides the other business flowing to associates
    and partners?
    > do you mean besides the other business flowing to known
    associates in political party(s), clients, and strategic partners?
    > do you mean besides the chits being acquired for favors?

  54. 54 jezebel282

    George,

    “What are the days and hours of State Senate in Hartford?”
    That would vary depending upon the particular Senator.

    It appears that the Senate was in session 56 days between February and May of 2010.
    http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/menu/ClerkDocList.ASP?House=S&doc_type=cln

    There shall be a regular session of the General Assembly on the Wednesday following the first Monday of January in the odd-numbered years and on the Wednesday following the first Monday of February in the even-numbered years, and at such other times as the general assembly shall judge necessary; but the person administering the Office of Governor may, on special emergencies, convene the General Assembly at any other time.

    All regular and special sessions of the General Assembly shall be held at Hartford, but the person administering the Office of Governor may, in case of special emergency, convene the assembly at any other place in the state.

    The General Assembly shall adjourn each regular session in the odd-numbered years not later than the first Wednesday after the first Monday in June and in the even-numbered years not later than the first Wednesday after the first Monday in May and shall adjourn each special session upon completion of its business.

  55. 55 1george1

    56 SESSION DAYS. Unclear how many were weekends?

    52 weeks in year x 5 days in work week = 260 workdays
    Minus 9 to 12 holidays = 250 week days in year.

    This has potential to cut honest business peoples revenue by 20-25%.

    LOB alert.

    Special props to Walt Rimcunis for seeing and pointing out the absurd,
    even by Stratford Standards.

    Two members of Burns construction ran a hose and were pumping water
    from the airport side of main street or lordship boulevard into the swamp
    on the other side of the road.
    It was emptying into the swamp which had a pipe under the road where
    water from the swamp went into the airport swamp pond on high tide and
    went from the airport swamp pond to the other side of main street on
    low tide.

    This is just too classic!

    Would someone tell Grant Dalling?

  56. 56 rex525

    Jez,
    I think we have to keep a better eye on George, this link could lead to our biggest conspiracy on wordpress yet: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-names-director-white-house-military-office

    George, I think you have some explaining to do.

  57. 57 1george1

    rex + jeze + et al

    If you read the link Rex posted, about which I blogged previously,
    you would note this George Mulligan held a similar office under “W.”

    In his prior capacity, his position was related to liaison to Air Force # 1
    Helicopters, which for years were made by Stratford Sikorsky.

    “W” took away the contract, the same way his daddy GHWB closed AVCO
    after downsizing it from almost 10,500 to 8,000 during the cold war years.

    Incidently 10,500 is the number of jobs NOT LOST at New London Submarine
    Base, but were lost in AVCO and is worth about $ 2 – $ 3 Billion if properly
    developed.

    To put it in perspective, that is about how much Burturla / Berchem helped
    police, fire, and teachers steal from the unconnected.

    The drop dead date for Natera is late June, just after Dickie is supposed to
    make restitution and at the same time this dunsel Town Council and Mayor
    drive another nail into the people of Stratford.
    > Dave Killeen made a presentation to THIS COUNCIL that over 40 % of the
    Stratford Home owners were underwater on their home mortgages. ie.
    The homes are worth less than the mortgages.
    – This means more foreclosures and more depressed sales, for vulture lawyers
    since every home sale transfer require 2 lawyers.

    The other shoes waiting to drop.

    1 – AVCO tank engines were obsolete due to sateliite infrared heat technology
    where tank engine heat lit up like christmas tree likes from space view.
    Smart bombs and laser guided missles are far less expensive and more prolific
    and accurate. END of MASSIVE TANKS as meaningful OFFENSIVE PLATFORM.
    – When the Stock Market tanks in August, and does not come back on schedule ….

    2 – Sikorsky manufacturing SHALL CLOSE DOWN in Stratford because the Black
    Hawk and similar attack helicopters can not match PREDATOR DRONES for
    COST EFFECTIVENESS as a WEAPONS PLATFORM combined with RECON and
    reduced casualties.
    – Heliocopters still have certain tactical and transportation advantages.

    Stratford shall be missing it’s largest and second largest tax payers.

    DOGSTAR and NATERA may fold like accordions.

    3 – The Stock Market has been kited by BIG OIL + ENERGY + WEAPONS +
    MUNITION MANUFACTURERS and the INSIDER TRADERS / TRAITORS at the
    top of the PYRAMID who are as knowledgeable about the INSIDER TRADING
    of the LAST DECADE, as POLICE + FIRE + TEACHERS were knowledgeable
    about DRUG TRAFFICKING for the last 45 years and about their PATRONS
    in the RTC + DTC manning the COURTS + JUSTICE/FBI + STATE POLICE/CT.
    STATES ATTORNEYS + TOWN ATTORNEYS / LOCAL POLICE+FIRE+TEACHERS

    Big OIL + WAR Manufacturing is allied with RUSSIA, CHINA, UK, FRANCE,
    OPEC and the 3rd world, Europe, and growing nations.

    I believe they intent to throw the local and state parties to the mobs of
    people whose houses are being foreclosed, jobs lost, portfolios stolen, etc.

    When the PENSION PORTFOLIO hits ZERO and PENSIONS cease and the PUBLIC
    has not money with MIL RATE around 50, as BUSINESSES close down and people
    abandon houses …..

    mirror, mirror on the wall.

    look to Thursdays’ Letter to the Editor …. if it gets printed.
    And know family and friends who have been tricked and victimized …

  58. 58 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    Sorry Sudds – The first part of this was submitted for publication
    My computer system paid the price, with massive virus Wednesday.

    I have mine enemies attention, and use the local dregs as object
    lessons on the way the political-injustice / finance-production
    systems interface and are being intentionally broken.

    ————————— submitted june 7, 2010 ——- not made cut

    Former Democratic Registrar Dick Miron,
    (Town Committee Chairman/Ward Boss?)
    plead guilty to charges of $70,000 undelivered Tombstones.
    No jail time? ($70,000=NO JAIL TIME!!)

    Google: Tammany (T-am-many) Hall’s wealthy patrons used
    government workers to assist plundering USA assets for
    (225) years, using jobs and benefits for votes and support!
    (See DeSapio > Harriman/Rockefeller/Bush)

    I believe Miron and others “cost Stratford over $ 3 billion” in
    “70 year obligations and lost revenues!”

    I believe people are protected by Federal, State, and area
    political powers who are stealing America, under
    “Color of the Law.” (Ultimate: Insider Traders?)

    (Sudds >) (Like Dictators and Lords of War?
    Unlike, peaceful and honest citizens?)

    I believe Miron influenced Stratford politics since the 1980s,
    with Town Attorneys Burturla, Kelly, Florek, and other
    (police state) selections and was involved in Town Charter Revisions
    and years of bipartisan Budget and personnel issues.

    I believe “no jail time” relates to political knowledge of Madoff,
    Ponzi, and Tweed-like schemes?

    Are “multiple Billions” steered (or in process) of Public assets
    and obligations: Pension computations, Health Care, Airport,
    AVCO, Shakespeare Theater, Raymark, BoE/Town Fees and
    Bridgeport’s tens of Billions in developments!

    No Stratford arrests of Mayors, Town Attorneys, Police Chiefs,
    Finance, or personnel?
    Police union grievance alleged top pensioner fraud or ethics?
    Epileptic hire reportedly admitted perjury and theft?

    March 18, 2010, my home was broken into.
    Thousands of documents deleted!
    Stratford: Budgets, Town Attorneys payments;
    Police, Fire, Education Pensions and Healthcare Excel/Word;
    and other work product documents=gone!

    Why file police report?
    Dick & Jim Mirons’ long time friends?
    Stratford Town Attorney Rich Burturla is brother to
    Stratford’s Police Chief John Burturla who headed
    CT State Trooper home land security under
    Dodd, Lieberman, DeLauro, Blumenthal,
    (Weicker, Morrison, Rowland)
    Rell, Harkins, Bush, & Cheney.

    Miron/Harkins: same Town Attorneys and Police!

    More ominously direct communications to/from FBI,
    U. S. Justice, Attorney General, CT. Secretary of State,
    and law suit documents against former police chief
    were deleted! Yahoo’s emails has deletions!

    Who knows “what could be planted” on my (your) computer?

    I wrote for Stratford’s WW II Memorial Committee.
    My father was combat veteran.
    Public documents were subsequently revised,
    which had taught me cryptographic icons,
    foundational to criminality and treason alluded to by
    Eisenhower’s 1961 (warning) speech.

    Wasn’t Eisenhower’s warning proven in
    subsequent clear, plain, evident & massive
    transfers of wealth by governmental planning,
    operations, and trans-actors of:
    “drugs,” “oil, natural gas, coal,” “weapons, munitions,”
    “finance, industries,” and more?

    Who among readers wouldn’t trust Stratford documents as original or true?

    Who among readers don’t trust U. S. Government’s honest oversight?

    Cold War’s ending became convenient terrorism creation for
    fatherland security?

    Pretexts?: Patriot “ACT;”
    “Color of the Law;”
    “Constitutional circumvention?”

    Pending stock crash/bottom test?
    “Money never sleeps” (Carey Mulligan)
    (Bruce Morrison’s gimp’s lies cost me USPS career –
    after I exposed sept 1987 oil price x barrels = DJIA value,
    prior to original oct 1987 movie “Wall Street” preceed crash)

    Betrayers already betrayed
    veterans, greatest generation, and honest Americans!

    Most “America Towns-Boards of Education are cutting Budgets.”

    Are Stratford’s/USA political debts being paid with your money?

    “Attend” Harkins – Malloy Stratford’s Town Council Meeting’s”
    scheduled “10.6 % Mil Increase = 9.75 % Budget Increase”
    and portent Town Attorneys’ carte blanche
    check writing Ordinance, “June 14!”

    “Come back Shane.” (shame)

    ——————————————————————————–

    – The above letter to the editor did not survive the STAR cut
    for publication. I have no regrets.

    – My internet was again attacked Wednesday with viruses
    rampant in my system.
    – I have no regrets

    – Local scumbags think this is about them. It is not.
    They are only puppets, obstacles, and impediments.

    They were set up to be betrayed, which I recognized 6 years ago.
    THAT is why I did not blame people who deserved blame, ONLY
    because I believe there was planning and operational entrapment.
    (Reluctantly – I can protect those who harm me and mine)

    Sudds:
    Their secret societies and graft are a product of the US Constitution
    Article 1, Section 5.
    (look it up – the shadow government exists in Constitutional plain sight!) 😦
    (keepers of secrets have secrets kept from them, who is to know?) 😦
    (those in secret societies – lost family in war / drugs / alcohol = the
    secrets you keep helped kill people you lose) 😦 😦 😦

    Like so many capITALYst creations, there is built in obsolescence,
    in the american political injustice system.
    mirror image of masonry > making “chaos” out of “order.”

    British Empyre is now a “Common” “Wealth.”
    “Communist” Manifesto = written in Britain
    “Wealth” of Nations = written in Britain

    I was taught there are 4 “‘common wealth” states in the USA.

    The USA is undergoing a Pyrrhic experience, like the Phoenix.

    ——-

    – That which god creates is true and eternal.

    – That which man creates is arbitrary and transitory.

    ——-

    Jeze – your are correct in your IPO assessment as the primary
    focus and justification for Capitalism.

    My opinion:
    The rest, which you noted, like most work / careers are derived
    from empirics of Adam Smith’s “invisible college” and “invisible hand:”
    1 – Theory of Moral Sentiments.
    2 – Wealth of Nations.

    Machiavelli wrote “The ART of WAR”
    Revisionists created an alternative under SUN TSU also “The ART of WAR.”

    Money never sleeps.
    Devils never sleep.
    Money used properly in macroeconomics moves through the world
    body much like a healthy blood flow.

    When there are clogs, tears, fatigue, too slow, too fast, infection, etc.
    the body suffers.

    The world is based on empirics.
    Laws are based on precedents and stare decisis.

    Change a letter and read the truths of intents and bondage:

    Business becomes BUSY ness

    Federal becomes SEDER AL

    Television becomes Te LEVI ZION

    Radio becomes RA DEUS

    Diogenes becomes DEUS GENES

    GENESIS becomes GEN ISIS

    Jerusalem becomes JESUS MALE

    Barabbis becomes BA RABBIs

    Roma becomes RHO MA

    Crime becomes CRY ME

    Christ becomes CRIES “T”

    Jykill and Hyde becomes JE KILL and HIDE

    There was a genius in the root creation of Hebrew + Greek
    + Latin + Aramaic + Celt + Germanic + Hispania where the
    alphabets incorporated symbols from withing the known world
    and the known alphabets and icons.

    It was the good people trying to get people to play nice.

    We use Aramaic for our numbering, not Roman Numberals.

    The Roman Alphabet has 22 letters, not 26 letters.

    There was no “J” (see above)

    Military / Police / Fire / Teachers / Lawyers / Administrators
    all have a place.
    However, it was the FARMER, FISHER, RANCHER, SHEPERD who
    provided the food and all have a place.
    It was the Mason, Carpenter, Black smith, wheel right who built
    homes and churches and castles and vehicles all having a place.
    Money changers and academics all have a place.
    Planning and operations have a place.

    Even the royal courts and fagin’s gang recognize there is a nature
    and logic in playing nice among your peers.

    The Magna Carta expanded the royal gangsters from Gemeinschaft
    to Gesellschaft, just as primogeniture’s limitations were opened by
    colonization, conquest, and trade.

    Killing is easy. Destruction is easy.

    Getting people to want to be peaceful and constructive takes genius.

    According to Marx, Capitalism is the pen-ultimate form of socialism.

    Sudds – T.A.R.P. was Bush / Paulson $ 3/4 Trillion payola to facilitators
    for the MASSIVE TRANSFER of OIL + Natural GAS + COAL + WEAPONS +
    MUNITIONS + DRUGS + ALCOHOL + TOBACCO + MAFIA CASH COWS +
    MOST IMPORTANTLY the insider trading where 51 % of all stocks are
    controlled and in Harness of the creators of the Federal Reserve by
    Woodrow (one worlder) Wilson cousin to Teddy Roosevelt 🙂
    Rockefeller gave land to UN + CREATED Trilateral Commission (one worlder).

    Sudds / Jeze / Chris – STIMULUS is BAM BAM $ 3/4 Trillion payola to
    Police + Fire + Teachers + states + Municipalities and

    RELATIVE to both SCREW MAIN ST!

    According to the movie Lord of War, the 5 permanent members of the
    UN (ONE WORLDERS) SECURITY COUNCIL are the 5 greatest WEAPONS
    TRAFFICKERS in the WORLD.

    One thing being made obvious in Stratford and American politics,
    is that if everyone was given 20 acres and a mule,
    then the same people would find ways to control all the land
    and OWN all the asses.

    Editor’s Note: Don’t even bother about complaining about this move.

  59. 59 1george1

    The above post was a direct response to Sudds and the Letter
    was about a Miron and correlations whereas a system justifies
    the “income stream.”

    Tammany never existed?
    Tammany doesn’t exist now?
    Miron and Testa are not Tammany?

    What of Bridgeport’s Algonquin Club in a Scinto Building
    where the FBI is presently domociled?

    There are no secret societies in the USA either…..

    Tammany disappeared during Lindsay with rise of Nelson (R) Rockefeller,
    who replaced his family’s business partner W. Averell (D) Harriman as NY
    Governor, prior to being AN UNELECTED V. P. to the AN UNELECTED
    President (Ford) at a time his brother David Rockefeller was credited
    with creating the Trilateral Commission, which was a successful front.

    Ford was on JFK ‘Warren Commission.” No one believes findings.

    Rockefeller gave land to create the UN.
    Rockefeller steeped in OIL / ALCOHOL / INSIDER TRADING / MONOPOLY.
    Partners have been involved in GUN POWDER, for centuries.
    WAR and CRIME are very profitable for OIL / GAS / COAL
    The UN 5 Security Council permanent member countries are the
    TOP 5 Weapons / Munitions traffickers in the World.

    The DARK SIDE is winning.

    They create shiney puppets.
    The public buys the BS.
    The Merry-go-round, continues on the same paths.

  60. 60 jezebel282

    George,

    “The above post was a direct response to Sudds”

    Forget it. Not even close.

  61. 61 1george1

    Since these are not my words but appear to echo that
    which jeze, sudds, chris, mayor, Rex , other post …..

    I did sneak in my comments early and smacked at end!

    We like the system.
    It worked for a majority in the past.
    We want it to succeed. Read on / go to web posting
    and comment if you choose ….. Have nice weekend.

    By Peter Morici, TheStreet.com Senior Contributor ,
    On Tuesday June 8, 2010, 9:42 am EDT

    NEW YORK (TheStreet) — Democratic capitalism is in eclipse.

    From Berlin to Tokyo, governments struggle to instigate enough
    growth to pay their bills and gainfully employ workers, meanwhile,
    China enjoys breakneck progress.

    (GHW Bush – former Ambassidor to China)
    (Brother Prescott head US Chamber-China)
    (Partner Rockefellers – governor ARK – Home Clintons/WalMart)
    (WalMart is China’s single market)
    (ALL coincidence – sudds / readers)

    Democratic capitalism is not flawed.
    Rather, government policy-makers are destroying a system that took
    mankind from dark feudal superstitions to cracking the secrets of life
    with deceptions, delusions and abuse.

    From Athens to Sacramento, politicians have deceived voters by
    telling them pension systems can be constructed allowing
    retirement at ages 55 or 60.

    Whether funded by savings and investments or taxes,
    no solvent pension system is possible that permits
    educated professionals,
    unionized workers
    and government employees,
    who get most of the income and benefits,
    to work only 30 or 35 years
    and retire for another 20 or 25 years.

    – – – – – –

    I have tried to warn about this for 6 years.
    Star, Bard, Register, Post and lawyers / politicians / unions
    could have been more responsible and locally solvent.

    HOWEVER MY FOCUS has ALWAYS BEEN on the BIG MONEY

    Unions will be scapegoated with justification for GREED
    STUPIDITY, AND SELFISHNESS.

    HOWEVER MY FOCUS has ALWAYS BEEN on the BIG MONEY

    Illegal WARS, CRIMES, DRUGS, WEAPONS/MUNNITIONS TRAFFIC,
    OIL/GAS/COAL, and assorted INSIDER TRADING has transferred
    the WEALTH of the Average American Citizen, whose homes
    were kited in Value, to create LIQUIDITY TRAPS.

    Jeze it took you 2 years from JULY 2008 to come around to see
    and write about the plight of the Middle Class and sometimes
    about Seniors, Minorities, and low / fixed income.

    FOLLOW THE MONEY – THE BIG MONEY

    FOLLOW THE MONEY – THE BIG MONEY

    FOLLOW THE MONEY – THE BIG MONEY

    While ignorant local schmucks are trying to steal any local asset

    FOLLOW THE MONEY – THE BIG MONEY

    BIGGEST FISH eat BIG FISH who eat medium size FISH, who eat
    smaller FISH, who eat TINY FISH, who eat plants = food chain.

    Mirons / Burturlas / DTC / RTC / Town Councils / Government
    Workers / Corporate insiders / Government insiders are myopic
    ignorant selfish bastards who can not conceive they are considered
    fungible, fodder, to be used and harvested / hunted like farm, fish,
    or ranches!

  62. 62 jezebel282

    From 1George1;

    PBS had an interview with 2 people who went PUBLIC warning
    about the PENDING MARKET CRASHES.

    1 – Nassim Taleb wrote “The Black Swan.”
    He stated he worked on the theory of the “FAT TALES” on either
    side of a “BELL CURVE.”
    It relates to PROBABILITY of EVENTS or THINGS, like
    – MENS HEIGHT range
    – STOCK performance

    There actually are BLACK SWANS who exist in nature
    – I believe I read in Austrailia.

    Appropriate, because
    A) Austrailia was populated by exiled penal colony
    B) The MOVIE / TALL SHIP “Black Swan” relates to government by
    plutocratic kleptocracy.

    But then I would be called a conspiracy theorist, even though I
    had not invented the words and definitions. 😉

    2) The other person wrote about inflated Real Estate Bubble.
    He wrote about people being vulnerable to being “underwater.”

    He points out so many Stock / Bond / RE Traders are so young
    and have no sense of History, they are unlikely to remember 2001
    never mind prior situations.

    I forgot his name. They were interviewed on PBS.

    It is nice to read Jeze, Chris, Phin, and others arguing about things
    I posted 2 – 3 years ago.

    They are not alone.

    Many things simply do not hit our conscious level because many people
    are too busy to see what is happening around them UNTIL it becomes
    TOO OBVIOUS to IGNORE!

    Probably all coincidences:

    1) CLINTON + WALMART are from ARKANSAS, which had a ROCKEFELLER
    GOVERNOR.

    2) WALMART is China’s largest customer.

    3) DAVID ROCKEFELLER credited with creating the TRILATERAL COMMISSION.

    4) CLINTON, GHW BUSH, SHULTZ, and many others are ALUMNI of the
    NYC based TRILATERAL COMMISSION. (can verify)

    5) While GHW BUSH was President, his brother Prescott was HEAD of the
    U. S. Chamber of COMMERCE to CHINA.

    6) GHW BUSH great resume (for a TRAITOR, DRUG PUSHER – WEAPONS SALES)
    – Oilman – Sold Oil Parts – Congressman – UN Ambassidor – China Ambassidor
    – CIA head – VP – President – FATHER of a President

    7) Prescott Bush was appointed CT Senator when he was partner to
    W. Averill + Roland Harriman of Brown Brothers, Harriman, which has
    had Rockefellers on their Board of Directors.

    8) George PRATT (& Whitney) Schultz was the Treasurer of Standard Oil
    Trust and partner to ED HARRIMAN (Father of “W” Averill + Roland) and
    partner to JOHN DAVIDSON ROCKEFELLER.

    9) Standard Oil Trust controlled 100 % of ALL USA OIL Refineries by 1880.
    verifiable.

    10) Sailing Warships were replaced by OIL / GAS users for WAR
    With the INVENTIONS of Automobiles and Airplanes control of OIL / GAS
    supplies and various uses of same became a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE
    where the Military needed access to the Standard Oil Empire.

    11) EXXON was formerly named ESSO or spelled reverse acronym stood
    for (OSSE) Office Strategic Services Energy.

    12) Before 1947 the USA Department of Defense was named
    Department Of War – acronym D. O. W.
    USA Industrial 500 market was D. O. W. Jones Industrials

    13) 1961 Eisenhower warned of UNWARRANTED INFLUENCE by the
    MILITARY (D. O. W.)
    INDUSTRIAL (D. O. W.)
    (Congress)
    COMPLEX – military has always needed complex supply chain from
    Weapons to Food and millions of different items = Voo Doo Economics!

    14) CONGRESS appoints EVERY CANDIDATE to EVERY MILITARY ACADEMY.
    – Use DRUGS + WEAPONS / MUNNITIONS + OIL / GAS / COAL + Commodities
    + INSIDER TRADING + REGULATORS malfeasance = take over political parties
    and control all Senators / Congress / Governors / successful Business
    and you control Presidential selection process.

    15) Use of Federal and State personnel creating LAWS, granting CONTRACTS,
    supporting local, state, and federal political committees creates
    MIRONS
    BURTURLAS
    B. UTTER NUTS

    Sometimes 1 + 1 equals 2?
    Sometimes complex equations have errors in factoring, leading to different
    conclusions.

    Sometimes

  63. 63 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    There are Police + Military organizations, as well as throughout government
    who use rites and murder for fun and intimidation.

    The Democratic and Republican parties can tap into Ancient Orders, like:
    Masons
    Elks
    Knights of Columbus
    Shriners
    Hibernians
    Mafia (Omerta)
    Police (Blue Wall) Justice / government attorneys
    Fraternities / Sororities (Skull n Bones)
    Army
    Navy
    Marines
    Air Force
    Departments and Agencies

    There are mostly relatively good people in all these organizations.
    However, as Oliver North pointed out >
    Like WW II NAZIS, many people ignorantly “just follow orders”
    Like Orwellian some are more equeal than others described the USSR
    political arm of the government -> really commenting on the USA.

    U. S. Constitution Article 1 Section 7 –
    Allows the government to keep secret those things they consider
    important. …..

    Now we KNOW no one in Stratford Government or the USA has ever
    done anything they would want to hide from the general population.

    Elaine, Diane, Patty, Ellen are all highly competent people and deserve
    praise.
    Yet do they all keep secrets about government abuse?
    Have they all benefitted from maintaining silence, like so many others?

    I do not expect Jeze to agree that people are human and make mistakes
    analogous to the book “the firm” where people join a company, only to
    find it has ties to people who are truely rotten.

    The USA was built on WAR
    Before the 1947 name change to Department Of Defense, it was called
    D. O. W. = Department Of War.

    The USA Stock Market was dominated by 500 industrial companies, which
    Marx called about europe the people who CONTROLLED PRODUCTION.
    The USA Stock Market was called the D. O. W. Jones Industrials.
    The Major holders of the Stocks were DADDY WARBUCKS from the Robber
    Baron Rail Roads and Oil Refineries.

    They controlled all States’ politics, along with british / french / europe
    royal investors.

    The Senate + Congress appoint all Military Academy and contract the
    Feeder companies. Like the Houses of Lords and Commons, those in the
    Legislative are controlled, perhaps by PRIMOGENITOR.

    Interesting that Sylvia believed some Jews helped Hitler to power and
    that there were good and bad people and mostly in between in every
    group.

    The Magna Carta, and later the evolving Constitution created vehicles
    for new additions to join the world wide criminal enterprizes, and not
    have to be blood related. jeze and ashkeNAZIm will reconize
    Gemeinshaft = blood
    Gesellschaft = contract

    I am not using ashkeNAZIm in a negative way, the same way as
    mary jo kO.P.E.C.hne, where people hide false flags within names
    and whose fate is tied to nomenklatura …

  64. 64 1george1

    Predictable.
    I just posted this would likely be at least partially moved.

    ———–

    Some of the BEST INTELLECTUALS and CONTRARIAN THOUGHT
    in HISTORY comes from JEWISH INTELLECTUALS.

    I grew up admiring NY POST MAX LEHNER.
    I agree with major aspects of MILTON FRIEDMAN economics.
    – Some KEYNESIAN are still KEY, used flexibly / customized.

    Marx was correct on most problems.
    – I disagree with need for violence.

    Adam Smith “Theory of Moral sentiments” preceded “Wealth of Nations.”
    Just as “Declaration of Independence” preceded “Constitution.”
    > Masons, Protestants, Catholics, Jews who contributed to Anglo-american
    juris imprudence, had foundations in classical eduation > Greek, Hebrew,
    and Roman. I suspect few would admit foundations made of straw/fiction?
    – What if almost everything we were taught had fictious foundations?

    The Allen Bloom / Robert Strauss theories for University of
    Chicago hold contrarian views to conventional wisdom that
    ART, PHILOSOPHY, and RELIGEON are actually subversive to
    their PATRONS

    The Reagan – Bush – Robert Gates CIA, studied ART and LITERATURE
    for clues about cultural foundations.

    Each culture makes decisions based on indoctrination / inculcation
    foundational to the culture, which assists analytics in forming the
    probability analysis for the decisions from their decision making
    process towards end results or actions.

    The people attending the UN are more cognicent of USA and other
    countries realities, than they are within their own cultures.

  65. 65 jezebel282

    George,

    “Predictable.
    I just posted this would likely be at least partially moved.”

    Just another of your predictions that turned out to be true!

  66. 66 1george1

    Hypothetically,

    What if there were certain traditions, such as using
    people as golem, caused a frankenstein rebellion,
    whereas people who were harming and manipulating
    innocent people, were laying foundation for / causing
    wars or diaspora?

    People do not have to be jewish to use /abuse hebrew
    traditions, and manipulate those (like in secret societies)
    with FALSE FLAGS and PHONY SYMBOLS of their cultural
    or rite sensitive enGRAVENED IMAGE?

    If I am a SAILOR and knew what General Billy Mitchell predicted
    in 1925 was being manipulated to come true 12/7/1941 how do
    I feel being staked out on a ship in pearl harbor like a lamb for
    the wolves?

    If I am police / fire / ems and I knew 9 / 11 was an inside job
    where 3000 americans died, including many police / fire / ems
    why would I believe I will not be double crossed?

    If I have see the stock market blink in a milisecond dropping 9 %
    in value and if I know computers have access ports which can be
    back doored, why should I believe all of my SWAG will not be
    stolen, when the time is chosen?

    The British Flag is a flag of the DOUBLE CROSS.
    It is a TRUE FALSE FLAG.
    What are the legends of ST. MICHAEL + ST GEORGE?

  67. 67 1george1

    Yo jeze, I am expecting at least one addition here.

    Truthfully, I believe my posts were responses and/or continuations
    to post comments of other people?

    Like Chris, I identify who I am, unlike many others.

    Yo Gavin – 10:50 tonight EMS truck passed the firehouse, following
    a fire truck that just backed into the Fire truck slot.

    The EMS Box Truck had a trailer hitch with about a 20′ boat on it?

    Was that “official duty?”

    10:40 pm?
    Sun was down a couple hours.
    I am curious if any bloggers can “splain”

  68. 68 1george1

    ST MICHAEL / ST. GEORGE

    In modern Theater, the below is called arcing – one topic suggests
    and leads to another topic, which leads to another topic

    Michael (Hebrew: מִיכָאֵל‎, Micha’el or Mîkhā’ēl; Greek: Μιχαήλ, Mikhaḗl;
    Latin: Michael or Míchaël; Arabic: ميخائيل‎, Mikhaḗl) is an archangel in
    Hebrew, Christian and Islamic tradition.

    He is viewed as the field commander of the Army of God.
    He is mentioned by name in the Book of Daniel,
    the Book of Jude and the Book of Revelation.

    In the book of Daniel, Michael appears as “one of the chief princes”
    who in Daniel’s vision comes to the Archangel Gabriel’s aid in his
    contest with the angel of Persia (Dobiel). (Iraq -Iran)

    Michael is also described there as the advocate of Israel and
    “great prince who stands up for the children of your [Daniel’s] people”.

    In Hebrew, the name Michael means “who is like El (God)”,
    which in Talmudic tradition is posed as a rhetorical question:
    “Who is like God?” to imply that no one is like God.

    Much of the late Midrashic detail about Michael was transmitted
    to Christianity through the Book of Enoch,
    whence it was taken up and further elaborated.

    [KEY]
    In late medieval Christianity, Michael, together with Saint George,
    became the patron saint of chivalry,
    and of the first chivalric order of France,
    the Order of Saint Michael of 1469.
    In the British honours system,
    a chivalric order founded in 1818 is also named for these two saints,
    the Order of St Michael and St George.

    St Michael is also considered in many Christian circles
    as the patron saint of the warrior.
    Police officers and soldiers,
    particularly paratroopers and fighter pilots,
    regard him as their patron.

    He is also a patron of Germany, the City of Brussels and Kiev.

    The traditional legends have offered a historicised narration of ST.
    George’s encounter with a dragon: see “St. George and the Dragon”

    It is likely that Saint George was born to a Christian noble family in Lydda, Palestine during the late third century between about 275 AD and 285 AD,
    and he died in Nicomedia.
    His father, Gerontius, was a Roman army official from Cappadocia and
    his mother was from Palestine.
    They were both Christians and from noble families of Anici, so by this
    the child was raised with Christian beliefs.
    They decided to call him Georgius (Latin) or Geōrgios (Greek),
    meaning “worker of the land”.
    At the age of 14, George lost his father; a few years later,
    George’s mother, Polychronia, died.

    Nicomachean Ethics:
    is the name normally given to Aristotle’s most well-known work on ethics.

    The work, which plays a prominent role in defining Aristotelian ethics,
    consists of ten books, originally separate scrolls, and is understood to
    be based on notes from his lectures at the Lyceum, which were either
    edited by or dedicated to Aristotle’s son, Nicomachus.

    Aristotle begins with the premise that the highest good for humans
    and the highest aim of all human practical thinking is eudaimonia,
    often translated as “well-being,” or “happiness,”

    which in Aristotle’s view is achieved by action of the human psuchē,
    traditionally translated as “soul”, in accordance with virtue
    (Greek aretē, sometimes translated as “excellence”),
    in a stable way that endures throughout life.

    Aristotelian Ethics is about what makes a virtuous character
    (“ethikē aretē”) possible – righteous actions, often learned
    through the influence of teachers,
    allowing the development of the right habits,
    the right character,
    and a chance of achieving eudaimonia.

    Aristotle describes how his ethical work differs from his other
    kinds of study, because it is practical rather than theoretical,
    in the original Aristotelian senses of these terms, and is intended
    to help people become good,
    rather than work merely for the sake of contemplating what things are.
    It is therefore connected to Aristotle’s other practical writings,
    on Politics, which also aim at people becoming good,
    though from the perspective of a law-giver.

    Nicomachean Ethics is widely considered one of the
    most important historical philosophical works,
    and had an important impact upon European Medieval Philosophy,
    and hence indirectly upon Modern Philosophy.

    Many parts are well-known in their own right,
    and have been referred to by philosophers,
    and in legal and theological traditions as well.

    Particularly important authors influenced by this work in
    different periods include Averroes, Marsilius of Padua,
    Thomas of Aquinas, Alasdair MacIntyre and Martha Nussbaum.

    Several great modernists, such as Niccolo Machiavelli,
    Francis Bacon and Thomas Hobbes,
    clearly saw the Aristotelian tradition in practical thinking
    as a great impediment to philosophy in their time,
    making the work very important to them also.

    (MLK Jr. referred to Aristotle, ST. Augustine, + others)

    Nicomachean Ethics is very often abbreviated “NE”, or “EN”,
    (like EN G LAND?)

    and books and chapters are generally referred to by
    Roman and Arabic numerals,
    respectively, along with corresponding Bekker numbers.

    —-

    The prophet Daniel experiences a vision after having undergone
    a period of fasting. In the vision, an angel identifies Michael as
    the protector of Israel (10:13, 21).

    Later in the vision (12:1), Daniel is informed that Michael will stand
    for Israel during the time of the End.
    There is no further mention of Michael in the Hebrew Bible.

    —-

    THERE ARE PEOPLE who love creating “illusions” to prey on the beliefs
    of people.

    For them, the DECEPT ICON and the BIG LIE are preferred.

  69. 69 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    I am George Mulligan
    429 Housatonic Avenue
    Stratford, CT

    I have been in marketing, sales, and business development for decades.

    I ran for Mayor & Town Council.

    I was in 6 Mayor Debates and 1 Town Council Debate

    My letters to the editor have been in the CT. POST + Stfd STAR
    including today.

    Harkins’ “right hand” man was given a 25 % raise from $ 60,000
    to $ 75,000 monday night, if that is who you were referring to?

    If you are familiar about Jeze and other people complaining about
    James Miron’s “right hand” woman’s compensation you might be
    equally outraged.

    Sylvia Guberman was respected by most of this blogsphere.
    Sylvia did not respect certain people and respected others.

    We did not always agree on everyone.
    We did agree on certain people.

    If you have questions to me – I am in the phone book and I attend
    monthly Town Council Meetings since 1998

    The ranking police and leaders in town unions have lists of over 50
    people (at least 10 stratford residents) who I believe were murdered.

    THAT should INFURIATE YOU!!!

    IT does not bother most of the bloggers.

    UNFORTUNATELY, many people wear flags and uniforms or display them,
    yet disgrace themselves by going along with secret societies and rites,
    who MURDER innocents for political inanity and graft.

  70. 70 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    Matt Catalono’s parents deaths timing was too coincidental
    related to Harkins running for Mayor and Hugh Catalano history, knowledge,
    and politcial efforts.

    I have told Matt.

    It is not comprehensible to most intelligent people that people in the police,
    FBI, Military, politics would use biotoxins to eliminate threats and/or intimidate
    or “CHILL” whistleblowers.

    Dan Ross + Tom Murray + Ellen Murray appear to have something going
    on related to retirement / possible retirement.

    I would invite anyone who knows these people to have a candid off the
    record conversation about what they know and believe.

    At my suggestion and instigation TOM MURRAY set up BURTURLA to MAKE
    a PUBLIC STATEMENT at a PENSION BOARD MEETING about RESPONSIBILITY
    by Town Administration, especially Town Attorneys, and Town Councils
    about the PENSIONS.
    It mitigates, but does NOT completely exculpate the UNIONS from blame.
    TOM MURRAY is the most intelligent /street smart of the crew and he
    appreciates what I did for the UNION MEMBERSHIP and him.
    > Prosecutors looking to make a name for themselves and help their
    patrons take over Stratford politics and assets, are less likely to agree!!

    Seeing the mood of the Country and the antics of the locals, I have told
    UNION people, REPEATEDLY, to expect a DOUBLE CROSS.

    I have also told them and they know the facts better than I do, that the
    DEFINED BENEFIT PLAN is NOT SUSTAINABLE, where people are getting
    THREE to SEVEN TIMES what they would have gotten under a DEFINED
    CONTRIBUTION PLAN.

    Especially with the GOLDEN PARACHUTE add ons and STOCK PLUMMET.

    Many, many, many people expecting a major DOW Jones / Stocks drop!
    Unlikely to happen when people expect it.
    It is standardly known as capitulation – Jeze understands.

    Last week Jeze reminded me of the real reason for Stocks = IPO

    My realization is they intend to liquidate all electronic records
    and force a reboot, with the rich losing everything.

    BP has been a MAJOR SOURCE of REVENUE to BRITISH WEALTHY +
    PENSIONERS and PENSION FUNDS.

    Based on past 23 years, it looks more and more like this accident
    was not an accident, but another vehicle to force changes.

    I know a good portion will be moved!

    Editor’s note: Right again, George. You’re astonishingly accurate.

  71. 71 jezebel282

    George,

    “Dan Ross + Tom Murray + Ellen Murray appear to have something going
    on related to retirement / possible retirement.”

    Could it be 80+ years of combined hard work?

    “TOM MURRAY is the most intelligent /street smart of the crew ”

    I hear he’s a pretty good shot too.

  72. 72 sudds

    “Matt Catalono’s parents deaths timing was too coincidental
    related to Harkins running for Mayor and Hugh Catalano history, knowledge,
    and politcial efforts.”

    George… you DO realize that this is only Stratford, right???

    And do you REALLY think that Councilman Catalano appreciates you dragging his deceased relatives into your quack-job conspiracy theories??? (matt, please accept my… on behalf of the entore town except George… apologies for this)

    PLEASE try to leave other’s family members out of your hypotheses???

    (note: unless you’re talking about alien anal-probes… I have a cousin who might enjoy that… but I digress… LOL!!!)

  73. 73 1george1

    Unique TIMING and REATIONSHIPS, with decepticons –
    Stratford Deaths.

    Mrs. Curcio – my condolences to the family. AVCO about to happen/

    Sylvia Guberman – I emailed DeCilio Feb 15 – i heard rumor of Feb 25 Violence
    Knew who lot about various players and changing relationships

    Hugh Catalano – Died shortly after Harkins announced. Harkins was given
    State Seat about 1996 that Mr. Catalano had worked for.
    Former Military Intelligence linguist – could cause trouble.

    Alex Kozak – literally an Eagle Scout + computer whiz.
    May have kept darth decilio from the dark side.

    Ed Fennell – I knew from 1970s – 1980s as a Softball Ump. Decent man.
    Integrity. No place for that type in Registrar office = sorry Rick, your
    allies gave you fleas

    Amy McDonald Knott – Died within days of her husband doing a job at my
    home. Local thugs made similar mistake when they torched Councilor
    Meehan, when they were supposed to torch Councilor Moreau = message

    Evelynn O’Sullivan – Wakelee Avenue – Stratford HS GYM Teacher – Her
    husband John’s testimony in USPS / NALC Arbitration saved my job.

    Russell Pleasic – Sutton Place – the real address of the BoE – Like WILLY
    SUTTON local politicians STEAL from where the MONEY is.
    Russell was my USPS / NALC local President who did his best to protect
    me and my fellow workers in the Southport USPS from Fairfield merged
    branch

    Anthony Mazzarese – Yale ST. – he and family were my friends 30 + years!
    – Family had low level mafia connections. Tony = straight.
    He and brother were US Combat Vets. Tony wrote affadavit supporting me.
    He was one of 16 deaths 1992 – 1994 Mossman + Imbro + Burturla + FBI +
    Justice NEVER INVESTIGATED, after C. I. A. turned down my F. O. I. about
    myself and my father 1991 – 1992.

    After Mossman false arrest – complaints to court / police / Barnhart /
    Burturla Cabrol a series of REAR END ACCIDENTS happened monthly to
    July 1999 – woman ex-employer rear ended stop short I-91 Hartford.
    Aug 1999 – my car totalled by teenager
    Sept 1999 – woman I dated rearended I -95 NY
    Oct 1999 – my godson’s mom rearended I – 84 NY
    Nov 1999 – cousin’s daughter reart ended Easton – State Highway
    Dec – zip
    Jan 2000 – woman I dated rearended I -95 NY, again
    Jan 2000 – cousin’s father in law died
    Feb 2000 – Registered complaint to CT Supreme court justice Wm Sullivan

    Accidents ceased – charges on my car totalled were dropped.

    NONE of you SCUM BAGS will express condolences or sympathy,
    as you are likely part of the same “secret scot rite and other societies,
    like hibernians, K of C, Mafia, Police, Fire, etc

    Selfish and souless – unlike many of the other members of your societies
    and organizations.

  74. 74 1george1

    You might weant to see this PBS interview.

    Russian VTB bank Chair + CEO Andrej Kostin is framed
    in the charlie rose interview as lying that the political party
    will not control or influence Economic controls.

    No country, more than russia can benefir from HIGH OIL / GAS
    prices NOR the ability to heat homes / businesses with low
    fossil fuels. Huge incentives.

    The world is a series of counterpoints to Mensa Morons
    who play the GAME RISK using real people.

    Post WW II
    Germany + Japan raised to # 2 + # 3 economies.

    Post 1987 Non Proliferation Treaty
    Warsaw pact + Russia were improved and NATO consolidated

    Russia raised by commodity kiting
    > Rich in OIL + GAS + Minerals
    > Poor in Capitalistic business culture and political party thea-tricks.

    Other highest populated China + India + Brazil given exported jobs

    CHINA is a counter point to:
    Japan / Russia / Asia / Pacific rim / Africa / lower Americas.
    Each can look at China economic growth / standard of living
    and what happened in W Europe / Germany, and
    Japan / Hong Kong / Taiwan (low key = face) Pacific Rim
    = JOBS / WEALTH / QUALITY of LIFE

    INDIA is a counter point to:

    Moslem Countries, because it is HINDU

    China + Russia which are Aethist or local Gods

    = JOBS / WEALTH / QUALITY of LIFE

    BRAZIL is a counter point to:

    Spanish speaking South and Central America to the

    south, west, and north, as ex-Portugese colony

    Africa to the east with common denominators to

    Black Africa, below the Moslem equator belt.

    = JOBS / WEALTH / QUALITY of LIFE

    Bottom Lines:

    WAR is no longer the best way to improve LIFE of the Victors.

    The Weapons trading of the UN controllers is the obstacle to

    World Peace along with Drugs and Crime.

    All are state sponsored / created as soul less ways and means.

    Former U. S. Military men, understand the limited mindset

    capabilities of Military generals / admirals / staff.

    See movie about General Billy Mitchell.
    1925 He predicted Japan to attack Pearl Harbor
    The ARMY set trap for JAPAN to bomb Pearl Harbor to get into WW II

    Same way Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, and Stalin were propped up, the
    Japanese were willingly suckered into long war to conquor China,
    Asia, and Pacific Rim.

    HUGE tactical error with 19th century thinking about Pacific vastness,
    while OIL driven Warships and Warplanes made japan vulnerable from
    the East.

    HUGE tactical error with HITLER engaging RUSSIA without conquering
    ENGLAND and IRELAND. STAGING AREAS!

  75. 75 1george1

    SEE # 73

    Unique TIMING and REATIONSHIPS, with decepticons –
    Stratford Deaths.

    Mrs. Curcio – my condolences to the family.
    AVCO is about to happen.
    Like Sylvia’s death and my experiences in the USPS, certain subtle
    violence “happens” about 7 – 10 days before a KEY SITUATION like
    the AVCO drop dead date for the Nateras

    Sylvia Guberman – I emailed DeCilio Feb 15 – I heard rumor of Feb 25
    Violence at the time of RTC Country Club meeting.
    Sylvia died Feb 24 – I remember = none of her blog friends remember?

    Syl knew who lot about various town political players and changing
    relationships where more and more people were aligning with Mirons
    / Burturlas, including several people Sylvia thought were friends.

    Between intercepted traffic, overheard information, anonymous sources
    and experience with KEY DATES like MARCH 2 ELECTION – I believed there
    was a strong chance of a key assassination.
    Sylvia’s offical death explanation did not match up with Jason’s experience.
    Individually, these are sooooo subtle and likely to have BIOTOXINS which
    do their damage, start a breakdown, and then vacate the body thru liver
    natural process.

    Hugh Catalano – Died shortly after Harkins announced. Harkins was given
    State Seat about 1996 that Mr. Catalano had worked for.
    Former Military Intelligence linguist – could cause trouble Harkins election?

    Alex Kozak – literally an Eagle Scout + computer whiz.
    May have kept darth decilio from the dark side.
    While darth likely sold out – he admitted he is not I. T. expert.
    Personal experience andd what Sylvia told me and what O’Meara posts,
    the mIRON CRTAIN is not above SPYING on COMMUNICATIONS.
    Darth actually thinks his home e-mail is NOT tapped?
    Alex was Darth’s best friend and godfather to his son.
    AVCO is a BILLION $$$ PROJECT
    BRIDGEPORT DWARFS AVCO + AIRPORT + LBW + RAYMARK + DOT +
    SHAKESPEARE + REMINTON POINT / WOODS + ROOSEVELT FORREST

    Any blogger think the Willingers / Bucci / Berchem / Army / FOP / would
    NOT MURDER for CONTROLLING well over $ 20 Billion Bridgeport development?

    Ed Fennell – I knew from 1970s – 1980s as a Softball Ump. Decent man.
    Integrity. No place for that type in Registrar office =
    Sorry Rick, your Allies gave you fleas, when you lie with DOGS.

    Amy McDonald Knott – Died within days of her husband doing a job at my
    home. Local thugs made similar mistake when they torched Councilor
    Meehan, when they were supposed to torch Councilor Moreau = message

    Evelynn O’Sullivan – Wakelee Avenue – Stratford HS GYM Teacher – Her
    husband John’s testimony in USPS / NALC Arbitration saved my job.

    Russell Pleasic – Sutton Place – the real address of the BoE – Like WILLY
    SUTTON local politicians STEAL from where the MONEY is.
    Russell was my USPS / NALC local President who did his best to protect
    me and my fellow workers in the Southport USPS from Fairfield merged
    branch

    Anthony Mazzarese – Yale ST. – he and family were my friends 30 + years!
    – Family had low level mafia connections. Tony = straight.

  76. 76 1george1

    POSTED on YAHOO BLOG:

    Down with Traitors and Seditionists

    The announcement of NFL Star Pat Tillman’s death as
    U. S. ARMY RANGER in Afghanistan was announced
    on the eve of the NFL DRAFT.

    I respect USA MILITARY.

    However, personal experience about treatment of my
    dad, a WW II COMBAT Veteran in the Phillipinnes,
    and years later Federal employment maltreatment to
    him and later myself, and many others, led me to the
    belief there are BLACK OPS personnel and politically
    appointed personnelvery willing to MURDER our own
    TROOPS, like PATRIOT PAT TILLLMAN!

    OR

    LET Pearl Harbor Attack happen, the way General
    Billy Mitchell PREDICTED in 1925, CAUSING HIS
    COURTS MARSHALL
    OR
    Lusitania sinking = WW I entry
    OR
    TONKIN GULF attack = SO. VIETnam
    OR
    FORT SUMPTER = Civil War
    OR
    The MAINE = Spanish American War
    OR
    KUWAIT Invasion
    OR
    9/11 Attack with NO AIR COVER over D. C. or N.Y.C.?


    Protect and serve ….. (WHOM?)

    WAR COLLEGE profited from 9/11
    + Sept 2008 Stock Market Crash
    AND
    OCT 1987 Stock Market crash
    AND
    Bush / Paulson T.A.R.P.
    AND
    OBAMA Stimulus package
    AND
    Oil / GAS Wealth Transfer


    Batmans Joker = anarchist = FIRE SALE
    AND
    LIVE FREE or DIE HARD = FIRE SALE


    DIE HARD # 1 = NakATOMi tower
    +
    DIE HARD # 2 = AIRPLANE CRASHES
    = World Trade Center + Pentagon 9/11 attacks

    George Mulligan
    Stratford CT.

  77. 77 jezebel282

    Editor’s Note: I apologize if anyone takes offense at George’s mention of family members. Since I do not edit the posts of individuals, each post is the responsibility of the poster.

    However, if you are particularly offended, please send an email (anonymous or not) to jezebel.anonymous@gmail.com and I will consider removing the offending portion.

    If you are a public official, that IS part of the job, you know.

  78. 78 paradisegreen

    I’m not offended but the “conspiracy theories” have reached a whole new level of creepy. Good Grief.

  79. 79 1george1

    Rather than dismiss as being offended, what IF, IF I was correct about
    YOUR FRIEND or YOUR FAMILY MEMBER who was MURDERED and YOU
    DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT?

    > Elie Wiesel’s statement, “…to remain silent and indifferent is the
    greatest sin of all…”stands as a succinct summary of his views on
    life and serves as the driving force of his work.

    > The Murderers Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal Memoirs

    Yo Paradise Green Since when is MURDER “not” creepy?

    What if I am correct about “ghouls” (KKK call themselves ghouls and
    who are violently anti-Black, anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish, and anti-??)
    like using positions within military and police to MURDER people for
    POLITICAL REASONS, in such a way as to appear as “natural deaths?”

    There are people who look at delight in murdering people and making
    them suffer, including creating analogous situations / people to the
    “BOOK of JOB.” Ask Mike Imbro.

    These are supposed to be your friends
    Sylvia was against Mirons / Burturlas who are politically connected
    to VERY, VERY BAD PEOPLE according to stuff they did to McNeil etc.
    Sylvia was extremely righteous and courageous!

    Mr. Catalano had history related to Harkins / RTC.

    Both had insiders’ knowledge

    Fennell + Kozak were exceptionally honest in the Registrar office.

    Ev O’Sullivan’s husband’s UNIMPEACHABLE testimony in arbitration
    along with dozens of affadavits CAUSE problems for certain CT.
    political and government people.

    rU.S.S. PLEASi.c. was USPS (UP SS) NALC (CLAN) Union president who
    helped protect lives in the Post Office – USPO (SOUP = STEW) and he
    lived on Sutton Place = same as entrance to BoE

    mO.S.S.man was Stratford Police Chief and his “cancer,” like Evelyn
    O’Sullivan (non smoker) was (I believe) induced and accelorated by
    bio-toxic carcigens.

    Where was the AIR COVER over D.C. + NYC on 9/11?
    Floyd Bennett field and other military fields should have been able
    to scramble JETS to be OVER the WTC in minutes, from the ground.

    There should be pairs of FIGHTER JETS patrolling at all times and
    within minutes of major population centers.

    Want motive?

    Bush + Cheney + Rockefeller are OIL / GAS / COAL and FACTORY
    INVESTORS – did they MAKE MONEY or LOSE MONEY when prices
    of OIL went
    from $ 10.58 a barrel Dec 14, 1998
    to $ 147.00 a barrel June 20, 2008

    Check the name of the person appointed to Head the ROCKEFELLER
    FOUNDATION, and the WALL STREET position he held for years.

    Check the TOP 5 weapons / munitions selling Countries in the world
    as being the 5 permanent members of the UN Security Council.

    QUESTION:
    If you sell weapons / munitions, why not sell and kite the prices of
    OIL / GAS needed for WARSHIPS / AIRPLANES / TANKS / TRUCK and
    general operations?

    QUESTION:
    If you sell weapons / munitions, why not sell and kite the prices of
    POT + coCAINe + METH + OPIUM (Afghan), which also KILL?

    QUESTION:
    If you are willing to pit
    White vs. Reb
    White vs. Black
    White vs. Brown
    English vs. Colonials
    English vs. French
    English vs. Germans
    English vs. Russians
    English vs. Colonies oboriginal ruler
    Spanish vs. Spanish
    Spanish vs. Jew
    German vs. Jew
    Jew vs. Moslems
    Moslem vs. Christian
    Moslem vs. Hindu
    Moslem vs. Russian
    Moslem vs. USA
    Sunni vs Shiite
    Persian vs. Arab
    Arab vs. Arab
    Arab vs. Turk
    Greek vs. Turk

    Manufacturers of Weapons, Munitions, War Supplies, Supply chain
    everybody makes money while people KILL EACH OTHER or DRUG
    and COMMITT CRIMES against each other and BUILD PRISONS for
    $ 60,000 a year incarceration vs. $ 12,000 year education …

    I absolutely wish to G-D that I was 100 % wrong about EVERYTHING
    I have posted on these blogs, since / including PLAY WRITE.

    However the more your write and read, the more clear those horrors
    in plain sight become. as we have MURDERERS AMONG US.

    Military people are INDOCTRINATED to MURDER.
    Police are PARA-MILITARY

    Who knows more about BIO – TOXINS and CRIMINAL / MILITARY M.O.?

    Who gurads the guardians?

  80. 80 1george1

    I notice a complete absence of people who blog when I hit these topics.

    For years, I was in denial.

    Then I could not understand … so how could I explain.

    With each passing year the onion peels layers.

    I also noticed that those who reveled in schadenfreude and sadism
    did not realize they too were being victimized by others using the
    same techniques from LOCAL to NATIONAL to INTERNATIONAL.

    EVEN IF I WAS COMPLETELY CRAZY – EVEN CRAZY PEOPLE CAN BE CORRECT.

    WHAT IF I WAS THE SANE ONE AND RECOGNIZED TRUEST EVIL above those
    who practice RELATIVELY PETTY EVIL?

  81. 81 1george1

    The PAT TILLMAN “political murder” and cover up has some of the same actors from
    the days of Nixon > Reagan / Bush > Bush / Quayle > in the Bush / Cheney White House.

    There are also other modus operendi, timing, animus, and other factors …..


    Filmmaker Says McChrystal Part of Pat Tillman
    Cover Up, Surprised at His Obama Remarks
    By Hollie McKay Published June 24, 2010 | FOXNews.com

    Soon after the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, pro football
    star Pat Tillman surrendered his multimillion-dollar NFL contract,
    left behind his wife, Marie, and joined the United States Army
    Rangers, where he completed multiple combat tours.

    On April 22, 2004, while serving in the mountains of Afghanistan,
    Tillman was shot dead in what the U.S. government initially said
    was a result of enemy fire from a hostile ambush near the border
    with Pakistan.

    But it ultimately emerged that Tillman was, in fact, shot by his
    fellow soldiers, and details surrounding the motives and circumstances
    behind his death remain a source of great controversy.

    In his new documentary, “The Tillman Story,” filmmaker Amir Bar-Lev
    explores these controversies and the roles numerous high-powered
    political and military figures played in falsely reporting how Tillman
    died and turning his killing into what his mother,

    Dannie Tillman, called a “recruiting” tool for the U.S Army.

    One of the high-powered figures highlighted in the film for his alleged
    deception is Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who was relieved of his military
    duties in Afghanistan on Wednesday.

    Reacting to McChrystal’s forced resignation, Bar-Lev said he was shocked
    that McChrystal had made the remarks critical of the Obama administration
    that led to his resignation

    “I am quite frankly surprised,” Bar-Lev told Pop Tarts.
    “In the Tillman case, he was much more strategic than he seems to
    have been in this Rolling Stone interview.”

    Prior to President George W. Bush addressing Tillman’s death at a
    White House dinner, McChrystal,

    who reportedly knew that it was fratricide

    but chose to omit such details from his subsequent paperwork,
    sent an urgent memo to Bush’s speechwriters, warning them that

    “unknowing statements by our country’s leaders … might cause
    public embarrassment if the circumstances of Corporal Tillman’s
    death become public.”

    Tillman’s father told the New York Daily News on Wednesday that

    “I do believe [McChrystal] participated in a falsified homicide investigation.”

    McChrystal did not share his side of the story in the film,
    despite the filmmakers’ request,
    Bar-Lev said. Bar-Lev has not spoken to the Tillman family
    since McChrystal resigned.

    “The Tillman Story,” which will see limited release in late August,
    was narrated by actor Josh Brolin, who told Pop Tarts he was
    “shocked” by what he learned while working on the project.

    “I remember hearing in the documentary that someone
    [Gen. Kensinger] was saying that
    the family doesn’t have God in their lives and they are having a
    tough time getting over the death of their son because they don’t
    have anything to rely on,” Brolin said.

    “That was a guy that knew that they were lying to the family.

    So to say that to someone publicly was just so disrespectful to
    every person fighting for the country and fighting for the freedom
    in the country,

    that is the most evil thing you could do.”

    The documentary alludes to the fact that the government put the
    all blame on Kensinger after he had retired from the military, after
    which he could not be criminally charged, and
    “conveniently” no further investigation could then be ordered.

    While the family doesn’t believe Kensinger is blameless, they do
    believe he was merely a pawn
    to protect then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

    The film also shows a letter Rumsfeld allegedly sent to
    military officials after Tillman enlisted,
    telling them that he was “a special man”
    and that they needed to “keep an eye on him.”

    A fellow Ranger, who was at Tillman’s side when he died,
    indirectly raises the question
    that the former NFL star may very well have been murdered.

    Despite Tillman’s constant screams and, what turned out to be his last words,

    “I’m Pat f***ing Tillman, why are you shooting at me?”
    the bullets continued to gain momentum.

    Tillman’s longtime friend Russell Baer, who was with him
    when he killed and accompanied
    his body back home,
    hopes the documentary brings some sort of closure in giving the

    American public a sense of what really happened to Tillman.

    “If you’ve spent a lot of time in the service, they tell you to never lie.

    They hold you high with integrity and the truth and always sticking up
    for what you believe in and having each other’s backs,

    and when it came down to it they completely lied,” Baer said.

    “They completely held everyone out to dry, including Pat.”

    Bar-Lev says the story does not end with his movie.

    “This is an unsolved mystery;

    nobody has ever really paid a price for what was done to the Tillmans,”

    he said. “No one has taken accountability or made an admission for a

    deliberate attempt to conceal the truth.

    This story is not over yet.”

    Sylvia Guberman told me she was a “good” trouble maker and was
    always looking for other “good trouble makers”
    and told me she liked my efforts.

    We disagreed on some of her friends.
    We disagreed on some political positions.
    However we agreed on much that is RIGHT / WRONG.

    Incidently – TILLMAN’S friend noted is named BAER.
    One of my BOSSES is named BAER (Jewish)

    We sell a product line named “TENNANT,” which recently
    changed names like Dresser to Ashcroft?

    The TENNANT name existed while GEORGE TENNANT headed CIA



    My former USPS / NALC President was rU.S.S. PLEASic
    Russell Pleasic
    Former Stratford Police Chief was ROBERt mO.S.S.man.
    Robert Mossman

    Military Intelligence thrives on cryptography.
    An modus operendi within the operation against me has been
    using people with messages in their names.

    What if 9/11 was created by people like Rumsfeldt / Cheney /Bush
    for “political” “financial” and “power” reasons?

    How many died who were
    POLICE?
    FIRE?
    EMS?
    PENtagON Soldiers?

    If 9/11 was ordered by political appointees of Bush / Cheney / Rumsfeld
    does that suggest they prefer MERCENARIES to government employees?


    Could KKK like people in the Military be USING AVCO + SIKORSKY as
    LEVERAGE against STRATFORD, while PAYING OFF
    Mirons / Burturlas / B-UTTER NUTS – Jan 2008 retires?

    NOT LIKELY – Maybe a TIN FOIL HAT.

    QUESTION:
    However, who had done more damage to USA since COLD WAR end?
    DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS or AL QAEDA

    QUESTION:
    Where has the MILITARY oversight been on NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUES
    like the TOTAL TAKE OVER of ALL USA MARKET SEGMENTS?

    NOW that is “c.r.e.e.p.y” + scary.

  82. 82 1george1

    The INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY includes COUNTER INTELLIGENCE.

    In counter intelligence nothing is done simply, but in a convoluted
    logic with more twists than a rube goldberg gimmick.

    People are used … set up … then betrayed.

    Countries are used … set up … then betrayed.

    People protected for many years, become expendable AFTER the
    HANDLING AGENT or CONTROL AGENT and his ASSETS retire or die.

    The people I am against have no reticence about turning on anyone,
    including all the people in Stratford / Bridgeport / Fairfield / Milford
    / Hartford / NYC / DC who have been “protected.”

    Many had relied on “retiring” to be out of the loop.

    Remember my posts within the last month about HARTFORD LAWS to
    TAKE AWAY PENSIONS related to CORRUPTION ….Food for thought.

  83. 83 paradisegreen

    As I said yesterday, Good Grief. Meds please.

  84. 84 1george1

    “Good grief” is a sick oxymoron.

    There are murderers and traitors among us.

    Bigger fish also prey on the smaller ones.

  85. 85 jezebel282

    From 2013:

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    Editor’s Note: Vast right wing conspiracy, you know.

  86. 86 1george1

    Does it make a difference?

    Checked COUNCIL on FOREIGH AFFAIRS Board of Directors
    and the Clintons / Bush are alumni as well as many BoD.

    Surprizing how many had highly placed Wall Street Jobs with
    Goldman Sachs, Bear Stearns, AIG, Lehman, Rockefellers.
    – Your know, the firms that caused Sept 2008 Stock Market CRASH!

    Look it up!

    Why not check Board of Directors and famous Alumni of the Trilateral
    Commission? The Clintons / Bush are likely alumni as well as many BoD.
    – Note jobs/positions in government – private sector.
    – You may see the firms and government position that caused or may have
    been in position to lessen Sept 2008 Stock Market CRASH!
    – OR, be in position to have bought SHORTS prior to the prohibition and
    also be in position to affect ANY investigations from finding wrong doing?
    (Reminds me of Stratford …. on a much greater scale of theft that affects
    everyone, even the local and CT. LIARS and THIEVES!)

    Look it up!

    Both Trilateral Commission and Council on Foreigh Affairs have NYC offices.

    I did get one surprize.

    One of the Council on Foreigh Affairs Board of Directors is the producer of
    the PBS “Charlie Rose” show!
    > SHE is “Charlie Rose” WIFE!
    > I wonder where the PBS “Charlie Rose” show can get some of their guests?
    > I wonder if their guests ever have OWN Agenda or Agenda “common?”

    HILLARY 2012 HILLARY 2012 HILLARY 2012
    A courtesan (group of courtesans) by any other name?

  87. 87 jezebel282

    George,

    “Why not check Board of Directors and famous Alumni of the Trilateral
    Commission?”

    Are you on their mailing list?

  88. 88 1george1

    Council on Foreign Affairs Board of Directors also had many
    Clinton and Bush alumni as members.

    No it does not prove conspiracy.

    However looking over brief resume of positions and education,
    these people are NO DUMMIES.

    They also have back ground to know what could cause problems
    and how to pre-empt them IF that profited them / agenda?

    Antinomian?
    Anfractuous manipulated clerisy?
    Concatenation deracination?

    YES – I do suggest CONSPIRACY.

    My prime USPS antagonist was named BRINKER.

    DOD Secretary Robert Gates had headed CIA
    / been in CIA during my USPS years.

    Gates “happened” to join BRINKER (company) Board of Directors.
    Analogous:
    Google George Mulligan – My namesake happens to be WHITE HOUSE
    – DEPARTMENT of DEFENSE Liaison, under “W” + OBAMA.
    – > Position includes involvement with SIKORSKY Helicopters.

    Do Robert Gates or George Mulligan (DC) have a clue about me?
    I doubt it.
    Someone appears to have “possible” knowledge?

    My USPS lies was due to firing because of Bruce Morrison AID = CAREY.
    New WALL STREET MOVIE stars CAREY MULLIGAN
    Original WALL STREET MOVIE (in production over 1-2 years?) came out
    1 – 10 days prior to OCT Stock MARKET CRASH
    2 – 1 month after my simple MATH of $ 1 BILLION a DAY OIL SALES was
    about EQUAL to “TOTAL D.O.W. Value.
    3 – In middle of STOCK CRASH, on OCT 18, congressman MORRISON was
    getting $ 5000 honorarium (bribe) for USPS NALC union in Meriden and
    IN FRONT of 300 union member, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, I let Morrison
    know what had been happening in my Southport USPS.
    > Morrison immediately talked to me and promised to HELP.
    > 6 months later his AID CAREY LIED and cost my USPS 16+ year CAREER as
    I was NOW the SENIOR USPS worker LEFT from former WW II / Korea Vets!
    > MORRISON DID NOT RUN FOR RE-ELECTION = CAKE WALK TO WIN
    > DODD’S Office Manage Rosa DeLauro, replaced MORRISON.
    > MORRISON took job in DC.

    > A little later, Stratford’s Vinnie Chase took a job in D. C.
    A different set of relationships.

  89. 89 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    ==========================================================

    Maybe it’s time to question the “patriotism,” “gullibility,” and “integrity” of those philopseudes in power?

    I suspect the “last U.S. Government lawyer, in any level of U.S. Government,” who had “integrity” and

    “patriotism,” might have been Eliot Richardson? Or was he “playing a role in Watergate?”

    In America, Democrats and Republicans correctly point out each others’ failings. Then they and their

    Surrogates continue on the same paths of “profitable failures” like the WARS on:

    Vietnam/Indochina; Racism; Poverty; Crime; Drugs; Energy; Election reform; Foreign Aid / Trade; Finance;

    Mid-east; Government Waste; Government Corruption; Mafia: “States legalized / taxed vice and gambling:”

    Insurance is Protection Racket; Lotto Power Ball are Numbers Racket; OTB, Jai Alai, Horse, Dog Racing

    Are Bookmaking; Strip Bars, Massage Parlors, Bar Association: Prostitution; Casino is Gambling.

    Who made the courts contemptible, and judges appear dishonorable and barratry?

    Who turned Intelligence Community into Mensa Morons, with Star Wars supercomputers out smarted by:

    Al Qaeda 9/11 Cave Men; Mafia High School drop outs; insider traders; & peasant opium / cocaine growers?

    Who turned War College graduates into “Defense failures,” yet “Budgetary Beneficiaries?”

    Who turned FBI-Police into Political Praetorians guards against the spoils system?

    Who caused 1,400% increase in Oil, Natural Gas, and Coal prices, while building weapons, munitions,

    and death merchandise to world markets? 34 % of world trade is destructive and 66% constructive, controlled

    by WW II victors?

    “Today’s technology driven cornucopia potential” is nonparallel, historically!

    Walt Kelly’s POGO stated: “We have met the enemy and, he is U.S.”

  90. 90 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    If that were true …..

    And because of the National Interest is forming public policy,
    which abosolutely needs contrasting views on those issues
    governments, militarys, bureaucrats, and business want …

    (Kind like the publishing stories for the RTC by Weizel & Fred,
    and the counterintuitive headline grabbing by Mirons)

    If one goes back far enough ….
    Might one find “some sort” of connection throughout the USA + World?

    WW II Normandy Invasion was named OPERATION OVERLORD.

    An OVERLORD is a LORD OVER all LORDS.

    In 1900 the British Empire controlled outright 25 % of the world population
    and land mass and still controls 8 or 12 Countries with 64(?) more in the
    Common Wealth (whatever QE2 said)

    In WW I, England’s King, Germany’s Kaiser, & Russia Czar were 1st cousins
    and grandsons of Queen Victoria.
    At the same time, NOTE how Teddy Roosevelt became President.
    > I have not confirmed Woodrow Wilson was Teddy’s cousin.
    Everyone knows FDR + TEDDY were cousins and Presidents for 22 of the
    first 44 years of the 1900s, during which time the UN was created on the
    land given by the ROCKEFELLERS.

    Hypothetically – If you ADD
    British Empire (Included)
    (India/Pakistan, Canada, South Africa, mideast protectorate)
    Russia + Germany
    USA

    Subtract China, Japan, Indo-China, South/Central America, black Africa.

    After WW II all COLONIAL EMPIRES were conquored and KINGDOMS went
    submerged or went the way of Ethiopia.
    About 1900
    China still had Emperor
    Japan had Emperor
    Thailand had King
    Ethiopia had King
    Black africa had Chiefs
    Central + South America / other 3rd world had dictators.

    By end of 1987 SO VIETS quit COLD WAR, same month as U. S. Constitution
    200th Anniversary. The MASONS (and other groups like MAFIA, HIBERNIANS,
    K of C, SHRINERS, various Military, Political Parties, etc) all thought they
    and their group was in control of the USA and hence the world.

    I was tutored besides being tortured.

    The end game, is the DEATH of the REPUBLIC.
    1987, World wide, virtually every leader in every major organization
    in every country was in harness.

    Hypothetically – IF TRUE, then there should have been no need for WAR.

    NIXON’S 1999: VICTORY withour War was such a vision.

    However, when allowing Warriors to control politics and they stick to
    the KEENAN LONG WIRE as their TIMETABLED PLAN of Operations to work
    Generationally, for their own reasons, even Nixon was double crossed and
    he was Eisenhower’s political operative.

  91. 91 jezebel282

    Actually I am kidding. Chris – you caught me!
    It was an honest and harmless mistake that I
    chose to use the blog for recreation.

    I forgot Washington is in the National League.
    The Washington Senators in the early 1960s
    were in the AL, when I was 9-11 year old.

    However Strausberg has HOF writen all over him.
    Swisher is talented and personable, but HOF?
    If they were in the same League … who would all
    true baseball fans prefer to see?
    ==================================================================
    As for the rest … no reason to apologize.
    Some of my posts are very difficult to read.

    1 – What had become ROTE to me, is unfamiliar to others.

    2 – Somethings I can prove. Somethings I know are true, but can’t prove.
    Somethings I believe to be true. This forum is a good place to practice
    and try to improve presentations with ample criticisms for corrections.
    I try to write what I know and can prove to be true.

    3 – I need an objective editor. I am subjective and involved.

    3 – Connecting DOTS which may not be connectable OR need other
    DOTS, in order to connect, to make sense about conveying facts in
    a manner for receptiveness, in order for the right conclusions to be
    drawn, is both an art and a science.

    For some, like RON and other, I have been able to connect some DOTS
    which they had not previously connected.

    RON and others would agree with you, that i am very difficult to read
    and lead you and others to conclusions I have reached.

    I may be wrong.

    Or

    I may be correct and SO FAR lack the ability to project that which I want
    to be conveyed.

    Another point is that some readers have substancial knowledge of local
    politics, and many WHO KNOW those thingsto which I refer have told me
    that I am VERY, VERY ACCURATE.
    People without this inside information, lack touchstones and code pads
    to convert / translate subject matter.

    Another point, is there are readers of my writings who are NOT LOCAL
    and they have a different set of situations they value and understand.

    Local insiders have no clue about those things, however those people
    can deconstruct, analyse, and disseminate those things I want them to
    read, and some of them want an outsider like myself to write.

    Chris, in the latter 2 situations, you are at a reading / understanding
    disadvantage.

    Chris, the recent russian spy situation involves steganography and crypt-
    ography, which are things I have writen about.

    HYPOTHETICALLY:

    PRAVDA printed a story for world consumption.
    Encrypt within the story were words from different alphabets and different
    cultural and religeous icons.
    RUSSIANS / CYRILLIC would read one story.
    JEWISH would pick up Hebrew Alphabet or Icons
    ENGLISH / Ancient LATIN would pick up their Alphabet or Icons
    ARAMAIC would pick up their Alphabet or Icons

    Embedded in the same story can be several different and sometimes
    diametric messages directed at Targeted audiences / readers, who
    because they knew only 2 or 3 alphabets and icons sets, would only
    see those messages, and NEVER REALIZE there were OTHER MESSAGES
    embedded and encrypt within the same words.

    Another example

    SCOTUS = Supreme Court Of The United States
    To: Scot Rite Mason – it is SCOT US

    To: Catholic Theologians it refers to – John Suns Scotus
    like ST THOMAS Acquinas + ST Agustine = KEY DOCTORS to convert
    PAGAN customers into Catholic practices

    To: Law / Philosophy Scholars – John Duns Scotus was a fore runner
    of Locke and Hegel among others.
    Karl Marx referred to HEGELian dialectic.
    MLK Jr. referred to ST THOMAS Acquinas + ST Agustine
    Much masonic / protestant / jewish philosophy is interactive to the
    Catholic and Moslem and Greek and Celt / Gael and Gothic people
    who have built the LOSTory and HI STORY of man.

    Some SCOTUS anagrams (do NOT have to mean anything=subjective)
    SCOUTS (eagle / boy / girl / military ?)
    CUSS O.T.
    C U.S.S. O. T.
    USS TOC (as in Toxin)
    US TOCS

    Chris,
    sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
    sometimes a cigar can be subjectively meaningful.

  92. 92 1george1

    INTERESTING RUMOR about REPRISAL for my LETTER to EDITOR
    on VOODOO ECONOMICS.

    Also interesting were the sewer dregs from Stratford’s past
    who resurfaced …. then RAN AWAY.

    Some people have had GREAT SORROW and REGRET shown on their
    faces, as they learned they were played.

    Other creatures continued to play their completely insensitive games,
    because of jobs they took, oaths and people betrayed, and willingness
    to live like vampires and parasites because of their ritualist cannabalism.

    Their children and grandchildren may continue to benefit for secrets.
    Or, once the ritualists are no longer needed, it will be their turn.
    People far more capable than I can break their secret codes.
    Movie: SNEAKERS “To many secrets”
    Designer techniques in WARFARE can lead to selective elimination.

    RANDUMB THOUGHTS to connect DOTS which may not be connectable?

    Interesting the KKK call themselves GHOULS.
    Part of Stratford worships or ACTS like RED DEVILS and PUCA White Wolves

    Cannabis
    Cannibalism

    CAIN + ABLE
    coCAINe

    Lebanon spelled backwards is NON ABLE
    Jerusalem anagram, substituting 1 letter =
    JESUS for JERUS
    MALE for alem

    Tel a Viv backwards is VIVA Le “T” or “leyte gulf” my dad’s WW II
    Crucified robber next to Christ was Barabbis of BA-“RABBIs”
    Whiffenpoof > LOST LAMBS … “BA, BA, BA”
    1832 founding New Haven Yale skull and bones
    1882 founding New Haven Knights of COLUMBUS, by Irish Priest
    1789 founding NYC Tammany Hall founded aka COLUMBIAN SOCIETY
    1790 founding VA District of COLUMBIA

    pHARMacy
    FARMaCIA in spanish – COLUMBIA is coCAINe Capital

    SPES
    SpeCIAl agent, forces,

    fCIAc – Fairfield County Inter?? Athletic Conference + CIAc

    SS was German Nazi monster troops
    SS is an alphabet highest of the highest, or first of the first
    oSS was against NAZI SS
    CIA succeeded OSS and together transitioned to “cia oSS”

    D. O. W. stood for
    Department Of War
    D. O. W. Jones Industrials

    GOOGLE: JK GALBRAITH “the Planning System” (David H Ciscel)

    “A group of two to thre thousand large corporations that make up
    the central instituional amalgam of the United States economy.”
    > “It is with these corporations that the institutional power resides>”
    > “The othe r14 million or so business enterprises in the United States
    live on the periphery of the Industrial system.”
    > ” The planning system can, to a greater degree than
    any other part of society, control its’ fate.”
    > ” It is able to effectively plan its future, by controlling its environment.”
    > “Galbraith uses the term “planning” in substitution for the word “market.””
    Planned Economy:
    > 1950s countervailing power theory
    > 1970s bureaucratic symbiosis
    Institutional control, whether effective or ineffective,
    and power, ….. whether exercised or unexercised
    are the key attributes to understand in the exchange process.
    > Planning is developed to maintain organizational autonomy
    and to reduce enironmental uncertainty.
    Galbraith impled in the industrial system 3 actions effectively
    eliminate vagaries of the marker
    Superced through vertical, horizontal, or conglomerate p 411
    presented December 1983 Evolutionary Economics SF CA

    GOOGLE: JK GALBRAITH “the Planning System”

    First state to ratify the U.S. Constitution Delaware Dec 7, 1787
    End Cold War – Non Proliferation Treaty Dec 1987 (200 years)

    9/11/1941 PENtagON ground breaking
    9/11/2001 PENtagON + World TRADE Center attacked
    9/11/1960 O.P.E.C. created in Baghdad
    1954 – tOPEKa Board of Ed vs. Brown
    1969 – mary jo kO.P.E.C.hne died

    11/22/1963 JFK (5/29/17)- 100 years + 3 days after the GETTYSBURG ADDRESS
    4/4/68 – MLK Jr. (1/15/29) – Year anniversary of MLK Jr. against Vietnam War
    6/6/1968 RFK born 11/20/25- Anniversary of D-Day Normandy Invasion

    Invisible Empire > KKK
    1) 1860-1870s
    2) 1920s
    3) post WW II

    Invisible Empire > Masons – Web

    Invisible Empire (Mark Dice) connecting
    New World Order, Roman Catholic Church and secret societies
    illimnati, global mafia, freemasons, skull and bones, Bilderberg,
    council foreign affairs, bohemian grove.

    Interesting name Mark Dice
    I heard of marked cards and loaded dice / but interesting combo?

    Bohemian club from Wikipedia (their conspiracy / not mine:)
    The pre-eminent camps are:

    Hill Billies –
    (Big Business/Banking/Politics/Universities/Media);

    Mandalay –
    (Big Business/Defense Contractors/Politics/U.S. Presidents);

    Cave Man –
    (Think Tanks/Oil Companies/Banking/Defense Contractors/Universities/Media);

    Stowaway –
    (Rockefeller Family Members/Oil Companies/Banking/Think Tanks);

    Uplifters –
    (Corporate Executives/Big Business);

    Owls Nest –
    (U.S. Presidents/Military/Defense Contractors);

    Hideaway –
    (Foundations/Military/Defense Contractors);

    Isle of Aves –
    (Military/Defense Contractors);

    Lost Angels –
    (Banking/Defense Contractors/Media);

    Silverado squatters –
    (Big Business/Defense Contractors);

    Sempervirens –
    (California-based Corporations);

    Hillside –
    (Military—Joint Chiefs of Staff);

    Idlewild –
    (California-based Corporations

    Wikipedia TRILATERAL COMMISSION:
    The Trilateral Commission is a private organization,
    established to foster closer cooperation among the
    United States, Europe and Japan.
    It was founded in July 1973 at the initiative of David Rockefeller,
    who was Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations at that time.

    The Trilateral Commission is widely seen as a counterpart to the
    Council on Foreign Relations.

    Speaking at the Chase Manhattan International Financial Forums
    in London, Brussels, Montreal, and Paris,

    Rockefeller proposed the creation of an
    International Commission of Peace and Prosperity in early 1972
    (which would later become the Trilateral Commission).
    At the 1972 Bilderberg meeting, the idea was widely accepted,
    but elsewhere, it got a cold reception.
    According to Rockefeller, the organization could
    “be of help to government by providing measured judgment.”

    DAVID ROCKEFELLER’S Brother – Wikipedia

    Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (July 8, 1908 – January 26, 1979)
    was the 41st Vice President of the United States under Gerald Ford,
    and the 49th Governor of New York, as well as serving the
    Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower and Nixon administrations
    in a variety of positions.
    He was also a noted businessman, art collector, and philanthropist.

    As a businessman he was President and later
    Chairman of Rockefeller Center, Inc., and he formed the
    International Basic Economy Corporation in 1947.
    (Same year as founding of CIA, DOD, NSC, MARSHAL PLAN.)

    WIKIPEDIA > The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
    is an American nonprofit and nonpartisan organization dedicated to
    improving the understanding of U.S. foreign policy & international affairs.

    It is a think tank, a membership organization, and a publisher.

    Founded in 1921 and headquartered at 58 East 68th Street (Park Avenue)
    in New York City, with an additional office in Washington, D.C.,
    CFR is considered to be the nation’s
    ‘most influential foreign-policy think tank.’

    It publishes a bi-monthly journal Foreign Affairs.

    It has an extensive website, http://www.cfr.org, featuring links to its
    history, fellows’ biographical information, think tank,
    the David Rockefeller Studies Program, Independent Task Force reports
    and other reports, CFR books, expert interviews, meeting transcripts,
    audio, and videos, Emmy award-winning multimedia Crisis Guides and
    timelines,
    Foreign Affairs, and many other publications, biographies of
    notable directors and other board members
    (PBS Charlie Rose’s wife is his show producer & CFR Board member)
    and, corporate members, and press releases.

    The Council on Foreign Relations is located in the former home of
    Harold I Pratt.
    Pratt was a director of Standard Oil of New Jersey, now Exxon.
    (STANDARD OIL > JD Rockefeller + Ed Harriman + H. Pratt)
    He was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations from 1923-1939.
    > Grandson is George Pratt Shultz (born December 13, 1920)
    is an American economist, statesman, and businessman.
    He served as the United States Secretary of Labor from 1969 to 1970,
    as the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury from 1972 to 1974, (NIXON)
    and as the U.S. Secretary of State from 1982 to 1989. (REAGAN-BUSH)

    Before entering politics, he was professor of economics at MIT
    and the University of Chicago, serving as Dean of the University of Chicago

    Graduate School of Business from 1962 to 1969.
    Between 1974 and 1982, Shultz was an executive at Bechtel,
    (a company that is much LIKE Prick Cheney’s Halliburton)
    eventually becoming the firm’s president.
    He is currently a distinguished fellow at Stanford University’s
    Hoover Institution. (STUDIES – how to create or prevent WAR)

    Pamela Beryl Harriman (née Digby; 20 March 1920 – 5 February 1997),
    also known as Pamela Churchill Harriman,
    was an English-born socialite who was married and linked to important
    and powerful men. > “Winston Churchill + W. AveRELL Harriman” (son of Ed)
    (also Ed R Murrow, Prince Aly Khan, Baron eLIE de Rothschild)
    Her only child, Winston Churchill, was named after his famous grandfather.

    The United States Department of Defense
    (USDOD, DOD or DoD, initially briefly referred to as the
    National Military Establishment or NME) = (ANAGRAM M. E. N.)
    is the U.S. federal department charged with
    “coordinating and supervising all agencies and functions”
    of the government
    “relating directly to national security and the United States armed forces.”

    The Department of Defense is an evolution of the Department of War. (D.O.W.)

    DoD is the major tenant of The Pentagon building near Washington, D.C.,
    and has three major components – the
    Departments of the Army, Navy, and Air Force.
    Among the many DoD agencies are the

    Missile Defense Agency,

    Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), (INTERNET CREATOR)

    Pentagon Force Protection Agency (PFPA), (another post 9/11 change)

    Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), (Counter Intelligence)

    National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), (SEE below)

    National Security Agency (NSA). (crypto-spies = all satelite/cable transmission)

    The department also operates several joint service schools,
    including the National War College.
    – TheirWEBSITE in PLAIN SIGHT – “WE RUN the WORLD”

    DARPA’s original mission, established in 1958, was to
    prevent technological surprise
    like the launch of Sputnik, which signaled that the
    Soviets had beaten the U.S. into space.

    The mission statement has evolved over time.
    Today, DARPA’s mission is still to
    prevent technological surprise to the US,
    but also to create technological surprise for our enemies.

    SO WHEN YOU READ ABOUT the surprize effect of DERIVATIVES
    and unsecured LOANS, OIL / GAS prices, and the destruction
    of the USA society and economy since 1960s…..

    First state to ratify the U.S. Constitution Delaware Dec 7, 1787
    End Cold War – Non Proliferation Treaty Dec 1987 (200 years)

    9/11/1941 PENtagON ground breaking
    9/11/2001 PENtagON + World TRADE Center attacked
    9/11/1960 O.P.E.C. created in Baghdad
    1954 – tOPEKa Board of Ed vs. Brown
    1969 – mary jo kO.P.E.C.hne died

    11/22/1963 JFK (5/29/17)- 100 years + 3 days after the GETTYSBURG ADDRESS
    4/4/68 – MLK Jr. (1/15/29) – Year anniversary of MLK Jr. against Vietnam War
    6/6/1968 RFK born 11/20/25- Anniversary of D-Day Normandy Invasion

    Invisible Empire > KKK
    1) 1860-1870s
    2) 1920s
    3) post WW II

    Invisible Empire > Masons – Web

    Invisible Empire (Mark Dice) connecting
    New World Order, Roman Catholic Church and secret societies
    illimnati, global mafia, freemasons, skull and bones, Bilderberg,
    council foreign affairs, bohemian grove.

    Interesting name Mark Dice
    I heard of marked cards and loaded dice / but interesting combo?

    Bohemian club from Wikipedia (their conspiracy / not mine:)
    The pre-eminent camps are:

    Hill Billies –
    (Big Business/Banking/Politics/Universities/Media);

    Mandalay –
    (Big Business/Defense Contractors/Politics/U.S. Presidents);

    Cave Man –
    (Think Tanks/Oil Companies/Banking/Defense Contractors/Universities/Media);

    Stowaway –
    (Rockefeller Family Members/Oil Companies/Banking/Think Tanks);

    Uplifters –
    (Corporate Executives/Big Business);

    Owls Nest –
    (U.S. Presidents/Military/Defense Contractors);

    Hideaway –
    (Foundations/Military/Defense Contractors);

    Isle of Aves –
    (Military/Defense Contractors);

    Lost Angels –
    (Banking/Defense Contractors/Media);

    Silverado squatters –
    (Big Business/Defense Contractors);

    Sempervirens –
    (California-based Corporations);

    Hillside –
    (Military—Joint Chiefs of Staff);

    Idlewild –
    (California-based Corporations

    Wikipedia TRILATERAL COMMISSION:
    The Trilateral Commission is a private organization,
    established to foster closer cooperation among the
    United States, Europe and Japan.
    It was founded in July 1973 at the initiative of David Rockefeller,
    who was Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations at that time.

    The Trilateral Commission is widely seen as a counterpart to the
    Council on Foreign Relations.

    Speaking at the Chase Manhattan International Financial Forums
    in London, Brussels, Montreal, and Paris,

    Rockefeller proposed the creation of an
    International Commission of Peace and Prosperity in early 1972
    (which would later become the Trilateral Commission).
    At the 1972 Bilderberg meeting, the idea was widely accepted,
    but elsewhere, it got a cold reception.
    According to Rockefeller, the organization could
    “be of help to government by providing measured judgment.”

    DAVID ROCKEFELLER’S Brother – Wikipedia

    Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (July 8, 1908 – January 26, 1979)
    was the 41st Vice President of the United States under Gerald Ford,
    and the 49th Governor of New York, as well as serving the
    Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower and Nixon administrations
    in a variety of positions.
    He was also a noted businessman, art collector, and philanthropist.

    As a businessman he was President and later
    Chairman of Rockefeller Center, Inc., and he formed the
    International Basic Economy Corporation in 1947.
    (Same year as founding of CIA, DOD, NSC, MARSHAL PLAN.)

    WIKIPEDIA > The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
    is an American nonprofit and nonpartisan organization dedicated to
    improving the understanding of U.S. foreign policy & international affairs.

    It is a think tank, a membership organization, and a publisher.

    Founded in 1921 and headquartered at 58 East 68th Street (Park Avenue)
    in New York City, with an additional office in Washington, D.C.,
    CFR is considered to be the nation’s
    ‘most influential foreign-policy think tank.’

    It publishes a bi-monthly journal Foreign Affairs.

    It has an extensive website, http://www.cfr.org, featuring links to its
    history, fellows’ biographical information, think tank,
    the David Rockefeller Studies Program, Independent Task Force reports
    and other reports, CFR books, expert interviews, meeting transcripts,
    audio, and videos, Emmy award-winning multimedia Crisis Guides and
    timelines,
    Foreign Affairs, and many other publications, biographies of
    notable directors and other board members
    (PBS Charlie Rose’s wife is his show producer & CFR Board member)
    and, corporate members, and press releases.

    The Council on Foreign Relations is located in the former home of
    Harold I Pratt.
    Pratt was a director of Standard Oil of New Jersey, now Exxon.
    (STANDARD OIL > JD Rockefeller + Ed Harriman + H. Pratt)
    He was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations from 1923-1939.
    > Grandson is George Pratt Shultz (born December 13, 1920)
    is an American economist, statesman, and businessman.
    He served as the United States Secretary of Labor from 1969 to 1970,
    as the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury from 1972 to 1974, (NIXON)
    and as the U.S. Secretary of State from 1982 to 1989. (REAGAN-BUSH)

    Before entering politics, he was professor of economics at MIT
    and the University of Chicago, serving as Dean of the University of Chicago

    Graduate School of Business from 1962 to 1969.
    Between 1974 and 1982, Shultz was an executive at Bechtel,
    (a company that is much LIKE Prick Cheney’s Halliburton)
    eventually becoming the firm’s president.
    He is currently a distinguished fellow at Stanford University’s
    Hoover Institution. (STUDIES – how to create or prevent WAR)

    Pamela Beryl Harriman (née Digby; 20 March 1920 – 5 February 1997),
    also known as Pamela Churchill Harriman,
    was an English-born socialite who was married and linked to important
    and powerful men. > “Winston Churchill + W. AveRELL Harriman” (son of Ed)
    (also Ed R Murrow, Prince Aly Khan, Baron eLIE de Rothschild)
    Her only child, Winston Churchill, was named after his famous grandfather.

    The United States Department of Defense
    (USDOD, DOD or DoD, initially briefly referred to as the
    National Military Establishment or NME) = (ANAGRAM M. E. N.)
    is the U.S. federal department charged with
    “coordinating and supervising all agencies and functions”
    of the government
    “relating directly to national security and the United States armed forces.”

    The Department of Defense is an evolution of the Department of War. (D.O.W.)

    DoD is the major tenant of The Pentagon building near Washington, D.C.,
    and has three major components – the
    Departments of the Army, Navy, and Air Force.
    Among the many DoD agencies are the

    Missile Defense Agency,

    Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), (INTERNET CREATOR)

    Pentagon Force Protection Agency (PFPA), (another post 9/11 change)

    Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), (Counter Intelligence)

    National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), (SEE below)

    National Security Agency (NSA). (crypto-spies = all satelite/cable transmission)

    The department also operates several joint service schools,
    including the National War College.
    – TheirWEBSITE in PLAIN SIGHT – “WE RUN the WORLD”

    DARPA’s original mission, established in 1958, was to
    prevent technological surprise
    like the launch of Sputnik, which signaled that the
    Soviets had beaten the U.S. into space.

    The mission statement has evolved over time.
    Today, DARPA’s mission is still to
    prevent technological surprise to the US,
    but also to create technological surprise for our enemies.

    SO WHEN YOU READ ABOUT the surprize effect of DERIVATIVES
    and unsecured LOANS, OIL / GAS prices, and the destruction
    of the USA society and economy since 1960s…..

  93. 93 1george1

    a copy and paste went haywire

  94. 94 addivdgruy

    Lebanon spelled backwards is NON ABLE

    Seriously? At what length will you go to to prove you are your own worst enemy.

  95. 95 jezebel282

    Ad,

    “At what length will you go to to prove you are your own worst enemy.”

    Good ole George knows no limit. He’s not real sure about “context” either.

  96. 96 1george1

    English LAW is based on BLACK STONE (or STEIN)

    Roman Juries would declare innocent or guilt with
    white or black pebble or STONE.

    ENGLAND controlled the Middle East under PROTECTORATE
    after WW I.
    PALESTEIN translates to White Stone (vs. BLACK STONE)

    Jeze is correct about context

    Although Jeze thinks the local audience has been the only one
    to whom I have been blogging.

    Ergo, my context within the blog stings are lacking.

    DEC 1988 TIME MAGAZINE 1 page with Admiral William Crowe,
    Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff after the FALL of Berlin Wall

    Takes comfort in the book of JOB

    Quoted CT’s WALT KELLY the CARTOONIST creator of PO GO
    “We have met the Enemy ….
    He is U. S.”

    See the movies “All the President’s men” + “3 Days of the Condor”

    The USA secret operations were world wide and ran everything.

    Eventually the plan within condor became the IRAQ Wars.

    No one has to believe me.
    It is not important that I convince anyone locally.

    HEMINGWAY QUOTED in the new MOVIE PREDATORS

    There is no hunting like the hunting of man,
    and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it,
    never care for anything else thereafter.
    Ernest Hemingway

    Since 1984, I peacefully hunted a MINDSET of why people kill people
    who are innocent and decent, analogous to what is happening to
    the american people, now

    and what happened to:
    American Indians
    American Black Slaves
    Spanish and later German Jews
    Irish potato famine
    WASP history by Norman Conquest
    virtually all of history.

    REIFY: “To regard or treat (an abstraction) as if it had concrete or material existence.”

    BOOK of JOB: a book in the Old Testament containing Job’s pleas to God
    about his afflictions and God’s reply.
    The Book of Job (Hebrew: אִיוֹב‎ ʾ iyov) is one of the books of the Hebrew Bible.
    It relates the story of …. “Why me?” (Book of Job) by Einar Hákonarson

    “In the land of UZ (U. S.) ….”

    SHADENFREUDE: enjoyment obtained from the troubles of others

    Many of the WORLD’S PROBLEMS have evolved from PERVERSE applications
    antithetical to the “probable” INTENT of WRITERS trying to get people to
    play nice.

    DVD guy – thank you for the criticism …
    it opened doors to express opinions and convey facts.

  97. 97 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    You have to look all of us as CHESS PIECES, where people at higher
    levels open doors and create opportunities and/or close doors and
    hurt people for their own reasons.

    Those in favor today, think they will always have protection.
    I have seen leader of/and numerous secret societies move out of favor.
    The Masons are in for a HUGE SHOCK!

    Esq. Kevin Kelly worked as investigator for Blumenthal.
    Esq. Kevin Kelly was Town attorney and gave Esq. Rich Burturla much work.
    James Miron appointed Esq. Rich Burturla as Town Attorney who gave
    Esq. Kevin Kelly much work. And both gave some Town work to Esq. Florek.
    Esq. Kevin Kelly’s mom was Secretary to Police chiefs Mossman and Imbro,
    whose bro-in-law, Tom Moore was on the Town Council which created the
    Defined Benefit Plan in Stratford, with highest benefits going to people who
    were HIRED about the time Police Capt Joe Burturla was being pushed up
    the highest Ranks. Joe is father to Rich and John.

    Lieberman is Blumenthal’s mentor and AG predecessor.
    John Burturla was Home Land Security head, while Lieberman
    has been head of Senate Home Land (Fatherland) Security.

    In the Senate, Lieberman was seen KISSING “W” Bush.
    “W” brother Niel Mallon Bush was named for ex-CEO of Dresser,
    who gave GHW Bush his first job selling Dresser’s ASHCROFT Brand.

    Prick Cheney was CEO Halliburton as late as 2000 (Y2K) owner of
    Dresser / Ashcroft.

    Ray Voccola and Barker were Knights of Columbus, who originated in
    New Haven like Skull N Bones.

    Hibernians led Tammany for years.

    SAM a Jewish Fraternity has some very interesting alumni.

    The various Mafias, include Italian, Irish, Jewish, WASP, among others.

    German is the largest ethnic group in the USA. Martin Luther and Catholic
    Church condemned Antinominan, which made it to the USA Colonies and
    may be why the USA government speaks with forked tongue?
    COUNTRIES’ LEADERS act out of their INTEREST.
    SUBJECTS are fun-GI-ble
    On the Chess Board, the KNIGHT is a SOLDIER or LAWYER / POLITICIAN
    the Bishops are Theologians or Philosophers (Adam Smith/Mark) or Scientist.
    the Rooks are physical and other Assets – See Galbraith’s “the Planning System”
    (about 4,000 of the largest corporations who control everything and the
    people … who control them …. are “in harness”)
    Guess which role all of us play?

    Interesting to watch when pensions get taken away, which I warned about.
    It was the Hartford Legislatures, including HARKINS, who wrote Legislation
    to take away Pensions where corruption is proven.

    I am the best witness for the Unions / corrupt State / Local Police,
    as I can lay foundation for entrappment, to mitigate.
    However, overwhelmingly circumstances suggest premeditation ….
    on multilateral positions.

    If ANYONE drives by YALE, it will be obvious the NEXT SACHEM will be
    Chinese.

    OUT will go the KKK + MASONS + SHRINERS.

  98. 98 1george1

    I e-mailed Jeze JPG of the FOLDED $ 20 BILL, which shows
    an ORIGAMI IMAGE, from uptown of a SMOKING W.T.C. 9/11
    and shows a SMOKING PENTAGON from the Trees on the $ 20

    One wing has UNITED
    One wing has AMERICA

    UNITED FLIGHTS # 175 (A.G.E.) + 93 (I.C.)
    AMERICAN FLIGHTS # 11 + 77 OR anagram of 1717

    I forward this to JEZE as well over 60 people had gotten copies.
    This was a mixture of people consistent with many readers of this blog.
    I’ve known about most of this ORIGAMI for years as have many others.

    JEZE choose to not PUBLISH.
    This is her/his blog.

  99. 99 1george1

    JEZE,

    You gripe when I post where you claim is inappropriate.
    Have I “mostly” conformed or tried?

  100. 100 jezebel282

    George,

    “Have I “mostly” conformed or tried?”

    Relax. By far & away you are still the champion of unrelated posts.

  101. 101 1george1

    Jeze,

    I might even pass you as the major poster, on your own blog?

    I mostly am relaxed when I post.

    Most readers could “project” about how I expect my postings
    will be received?
    > Most people call me nuts.
    > A couple people told me they thought I was brilliant or have
    often nailed exactly what has been going on. (My sources have
    made me look more intelligent than I am, although I can often
    separate the wheat from the chaff.
    > I try to be truthful, regardless of how I will be perceived.

    Jeze even among my “related” post, I expect you would conceed,
    I bring the most unique perspective to your blog.

    As exasperating as I can be and have been to you, have I or have I
    not contributed to making your blog “more interesting,” including
    playing “angels’ advocate” and “counter posturing?”

    We can pretend we do not care ….
    We will not pretend, we will post that which we do not believe!
    we conceed that about each other.

  102. 102 jezebel282

    George,

    “I bring the most unique perspective to your blog.”

    I will concede that no one has your perspective.

  103. 103 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    “Kinda like voting?”

    NOT EXACTLY!
    At every level the “votes” are for surrogates and proxies of
    Boss Tweedle dee or Boss Tweedle dumb.
    These are echos – NOT CHOICES.
    Most are intelligent enough to wipe off the brown from noses
    and dust from their knees.
    Superficially they have nice resumes as pillars of the Community,
    while the truth is in (too many cases) their livelihoods and careers
    have been dependent on the plans and schemes of others.

    Stratford is a microcosm of the entire system.

    Mirons / Burturlas blantant disregard for propriety and fiduciary mandates
    simply make more obvious past practices in Stratford and across the USA.

    Bush did the same thing with Attorney General Gonzalez firing US Attorneys.
    JFK appointment of RFK = showcased NEPOTISM analogous to the DULLES.
    NIXON’S AG John Mitchell went to JAIL
    REAGAN’S AG Ed Meese should have gone to JAIL
    GHWB had (cloak of invisibility)
    Clinton had RENO and WACO
    “W” had ASHCROFT and GONZALEZ and

  104. 104 1george1

    Define: to Reify or Reification.

    Define: Job Comforter

    Define: Schadenfreude + Sadism

    Define: Cowardice

    Define: Catch 22

    Define: Peter Principle

    Define: Neutron Jack Labor Policies

    Define: Old mother Hubbard

    Define: the Invisible Gorilla

    Define: Deniability

    Define: Smoke and Mirrors

    Define: Handling agent / control Agent

    Define: Invisible Hand / Invisible College

    Define: The Planning System

    Define: Free enterprize, Laisse Faire, Command Economy

    Wealth of Nations > Federalist Papers > Reconstruction
    > Marshall Plan > Trilateral Commission

    Conclusion?

    Writing that I am crazy is a moot issue.

  105. 105 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    Incidently, Romulus & Remus were supposedly raised by a she wolf.
    Werewolves refers to the ancestors of the Roman Empire.

    The roman empire, started out as a republic … like the USA.
    The roman empire existed through plunder with no middle class.

    Anagram
    Remus = SUMER, spelled backwards.

    Romulus = SOUL RUM, anagram

    The Romans also claimed TROY as relatives.

    BURTURLA = U. R. BRUTAL, amagram.

    VERSAILLES = SELL I AS REV, backwards.

    JEKYLL and HYDE = JE KILL and HIDE

    INVISIBLE MAN = INVISIBLE HAND = INVISIBLE EMPIRE = INVISIBLE UNIVERSITY
    Secret parts of BIBLES n WRITINGS

    FRANKENSTEIN = “F” RANK in STONE

    BLACKSTONE LAW vs. PALE STEIN

    ISRAEL = (PRO) SE LIAR, anagram
    SEMITE = (PRO) SE MITE
    The TIMES = SEMITE ht, backwards

    If one was being led into a trap, where people use words with multi-
    cultural meanings, would you or would you NOT want to be warned
    about possibly being led to ……. ?

    Who is the greater patriot – KING LEAR’S Regan or the 2 fawning sisters?

  106. 106 1george1

    Just testing. Above.

    Incidently, Any post for the 2 Bridgeport firemen who lost lives?

    I favor full time police + fire over volunteers, for a lot of reasons.
    Whatever disagreements about PAY + BENEFITS … they are MOOT
    relative to people living and dying.
    Especially trying to protect lives of others.

  107. 107 jezebel282

    George,

    “Any post for the 2 Bridgeport firemen who lost lives?”

    There was/is plenty to be said. This is not really the appropriate place. Mostly I am thankful our firefighters are safe. Now, if we only had more of them instead of paying all that overtime.

  108. 108 1george1

    If only everyone were safe, healthy, happy, and prosperous!

    This includes all blog readers as well as firemen and every
    American and human ….

  109. 109 1george1

    The way Jeze has been posting about Republicans and Democrats
    acting against the interest of average Americans …..

    Jeze may move her post to the Dark Side.

  110. 110 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    Next time just paste a link.

    CNBC Wed July 28 @ 1:07

    Weep not for Wall Street: Even though the nation’s big financial institutions will get hit by the new financial reform regulations, they already have begun figuring out ways around them and are setting the path for more profitability in the future.

    Analysts who feared the new rules might cripple the backbone of
    the American financial system have relented since President Obama
    signed the Dodd-Frank reforms into law last week.

    The new law establishes tighter requirements for capital and restricts
    risk-taking. It also contains a significant consumer watchdog component
    and seeks to prohibit banks from becoming too big too fail.

    But crafty financial veterans already are finding loopholes in the law and
    banks likely will profit both in spite of and because of the reforms.

    What the law did was force the banks to rethink their business lines, their pricing strategies, their methodology for maintaining their balance sheet,” banking analyst Dick Bove of Rochdale Securities said in an interview. “When they rethink it all, they will be able to offset all of the costs of this bill.”

    The banks’ course of action likely will break down into four strategies:

    1. Outfox the foxes

    A harsh critic of the law, Bove is among the analysts who nevertheless
    believe banks will thrive. One big reason is because he thinks industry
    executives will show that they’re smarter than the legislators who
    crafted financial reform, also known as FinReg.

    “If you had anyone who knew anything about the financial industry
    writing this law, that’s one thing,” said Bove, who has called the law
    one of the worst in US history. “But if you have a bunch of hysterics
    who were looking for political gain, you get something that was an
    abortion. All it did was increase the cost of banking in the United
    States relative to the cost of banking in other countries.”

    One of the loopholes will be challenging the government to decide
    what is “proprietary trading.” Normally considered that trading which
    institutions do for their own benefit rather than their customers,
    observers have speculated the government will have a tough time
    enforcing an exact definition.

    The same could go for the much-touted Volcker Rule-named after
    White House economic adviser and former Federal Reserve Chairman
    Paul Volcker-which restricts to 3 percent of Tier 1 capital the amount
    banks can hedge or put into private equity.

    But Bove said banks like Goldman Sachs (NYSE:GS – News) can sell
    private equity funds to a third party and then establish a management
    contract in which Goldman would run those funds and take a percentage
    of the increase in value “which presumably would be equal to the profit
    you were getting for holding the funds in the first place.”

    “Although banks will be limited in how much they can invest in the
    funds along side with investors, managing the fund is still expected
    to garner meaningful management and incentive income,” analysts
    at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods wrote of the 3 percent restriction.

    2. Going Overseas

    As Bove stated, Congress enacted FinReg unilaterally-foreign banks
    don’t have to abide by the US rules, and US banks doing business
    overseas also can skirt FinReg in certain instances.

    “The US is the world’s largest economy and has the largest and
    deepest capital markets. There’s no way for any big bank to avoid
    the US,” said Doug Landy, banking partner at Allen and Overy in
    New York. “But I think people are re-looking at what business
    they do here and what business they do elsewhere.”

    While banks will have to be cautious not to cross regulatory
    restrictions, Bove said there are plenty of ways for financial
    companies to take their business outside the US.

    Under the new rules, “You run the risk of the Federal Reserve
    saying, ‘You’re interconnected, we’re going to regulate you,'”
    he said. “Or you can do it through a consolidated subsidiary
    in Switzerland. Nobody sees it, so there’s no regulation.
    So why should you do it here?”

    3. Take it Out on the Customers

    This is what Bove considers the most odious part of FinReg-the
    increased costs through regulation and restrictions will simply,
    he said, be passed onto customers.

    Free checking will not exist anymore and customers likely will
    have to pay $10 to $12 a month to maintain their accounts, he
    said, meaning some on lower incomes may be forced to close
    their accounts.

    He used Wells Fargo (NYSE:WFC – News) as an example of how
    banks will find numerous ways to pass costs onto customers.

    “Wells Fargo claims they have 86 specific businesses. That means
    there are about 80 businesses that they can increase prices and
    charges on, which they’ve already done” Bove said. “Wells Fargo
    has not been slow to make adjustments to its costs in order to
    make sure customers bear the burden of increases in regulatory
    costs.”

    A host of large banks already have warned that there earnings
    could be impacted by the new law.

    “They’re going to find more ways to make it. They’re going to put
    more fees on customers,” said Andrew Neale, partner at Fogel Neale
    Partners in New York. “That’s obviously the first line of defense.”

    4. Be Big

    Perhaps the great irony is that a bill designed to prevent banks from
    becoming too big to fail- a la Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns
    -almost ensures the future of behemoth banks.

    Banks that lack the capital to survive will be absorbed by their larger
    brethren, as has already happened 103 times in 2010. The financial
    crisis provided plenty of templates: JPMorgan Chase (NYSE:JPM – News)
    swallowed Bear Stearns and Washington Mutual; Bank of America
    (NYSE:BAC – News) took in Merrill Lynch; Wells Fargo ate up Wachovia.

    “One unforeseen victor is banks are actually much bigger than they
    were five years ago. Rather than being broken apart, they’re bigger
    and stronger,” said Landy, of Allen and Overy. “What it leaves is a
    situation where you have six huge banks, a bunch of regional banks
    and thousands of small banks.”

    FinReg provides a resolution mechanism to seize and blow up banks
    that become too big to fail. But Wall Street is betting it stays at least
    a step ahead of the Washington regulators.

    “We have no doubt that the banks are actively looking at the best
    possible ways to rework their current business models to take
    advantage of inconsistencies in this legislation,” Landy said.
    “That’s their job and that’s what they’re good at.”

  111. 111 1george1

    Jeze,

    Instead of a link – how about a partial story?

    You know …. like you post? 8)

  112. 112 jezebel282

    George,

    “You know …. like you post?”

    Nope.

    The reason I do it is to maintain the record. I don’t charge to go back and find articles. Otherwise I would just post the link.

  113. 113 1george1

    The above was in the same day Yahoo.

    I believe I read a couple paragraphs from various articles which you posted.
    Maybe you forgot? 😉
    Just scroll FinReg! 8)
    Like Magic … there they are! 🙂

    Teasin ..

  114. 114 jezebel282

    From 1George1

    In 1998 I spoke to 3 PEOPLE in DC FBI HQ.
    Each had forwarded me to the other after discussions.
    FBI DC can ONLY ASSIST with SUPERIOR ABILITIES and ASSETS under
    3 conditions.
    1 – OPEN LOCAL CASE
    2 – REQUEST from LOCAL Police / STATE Polce / FBI local field office
    3 – APPROVAL from DC SUPERIORS.

    Since these MURDERS likely originated from ARLINGTON MILITARY HQ
    and have had Bridgeport FBI / JUSTICE Department protection …..
    > CIA and DOD-SIS are also knowledgeable of facts and circumstances.
    > Certain DC area personnel, have very, very discreetly assisted me.
    > Burturlas / Kelly have relationships with Blumenthal / Lieberman who
    is hooked in with Cheney – Bush, OILogarchial Yale Mafia.

    Those are the creatures who used OIL to take over and destroy the
    Stock Market and control the USA economy thru controlling Military
    and Political Parties, with the Industrial Complex.

    Prior to Trilateral Commission JK Galbrith called it a “Planning System”
    It was further identified to 3,000 – 4,000 of the Largest Corporations
    who could control their Economic Environment.
    > Those Businesses to Scale are/were needed to WAGE WAR.
    > WAR is a Business. It is a source of major profits, high margins, power,
    and being able to place Military people into high paying SECURITY and
    CONSULTING positions, besides booming stocks and cash flow.
    > Oil / Gas profit margins explode during War.

    Trilateral Commission and Council of Foreign Affairs list their members
    and Directors = interesting Reading.
    These groups were called different things in the past:
    > Eisenhower > The Military Industrial (congress=political) Complex
    > Orwell > Big Brother – Dystopians – Orwellian – doublethink/doublespeak
    > Marx > Ruling class – production control – Capitalist = rational miser -Spectre
    > HG Wells > MoreLocks vs. Eloi
    > Adam Smith > Invisible HAND (Invisible University / Invisible Empire)
    > John Locke > Social contact vs. Thomas Hobbes – Brutes
    > ST Thomas More > Utopia (no place) vs. Luther – Heresy
    > Luther > Hypocracies

    A 11,000 DOW is only $ 14,000,000,000,000 (Trillion)
    The entire world Stock Market might be $ 50 Trillion
    The entire world GROSS PRODUCT / SERVICES is likely under $ 200 Trillion
    with 40 % estimated GROSS SALES to be ILLEGAL / CONTRABAND?
    > Weapons – Munnitions – 5 UN Security Council countries: top 5 sellers.
    – USA + USSR had Satellites from WW II to 1987
    – China Communist are a shell for France/England
    – English Empire was 25 % of World Population / Land mass in 1900.
    This excluded influence over USA, Russia Czar Nicolas + Kaiser Wilhelm
    as cousins during WW I to England’s King George – Queen Victoria’s
    grandsons.
    This excluded influence of French Norman lords who took over Castles
    and Lands of England through William the conqueror and the Medici
    taking over the Papacy of 2 Popes in 1500s, including Ferdinan who was
    patron to Columbus.
    The Medici had 2 French Queens.
    The last Medici was from NeMours, as were the DuPonts, land brokers
    to the Louisiana Purchase, and invested in a GUN POWER Plant in DE.
    DuPonts sold GUNPOWDER to ALL SIDES in the NAPOLIAN WARS and
    conquest of the USA from early 1800s. Also all WARS.
    DuPonts control DE. LA. MI. and other states. They were the major
    stock holders of GENERAL MOTORS.

    The ROTHCHILDS 1800s BANKING (Mercinaries) and MEDICI (1400-1800) BANKING rose to POWER with the creation and expansion of COLONIES and later ROBBER BARONS related to RAILROADS None appear to be really Jewish or Catholic, same as the KINGS and Princes wear COATS and CLOAKS of Catholicism, Protestantism, and Masonry to be honored and accepted as the LEADERS of their scrap taking “useful idiots” in
    the various countries.

    ROCKEFELLERS control every State where Standard Oil existed.
    NY. NJ. OH. CA. PA. IL. TX. KY. IO. MN. KA.

    Wikipedia:
    The Standard Oil Trust was controlled by a small group of families.
    Rockefeller stated in 1910: “I think it is true that the Pratt family,
    (George PRATT Schultz-Grandson of standard Oil Treasurer)
    the Payne-Whitney (NY METS) family (Walker => BUSH related)
    (which were one, as all the stock came from Colonel Payne),
    the Harkness-Flagler family (which came into the Company together)
    and the Rockefeller family controlled a majority of the stock during
    all the history of the Company up to the present time.

    By 1890, Standard Oil controlled 88% of the refined oil flows in the
    United States.

    So, in 1899, the Standard Oil Trust, based at 26 Broadway in New York,
    was legally reborn as a holding company, the Standard Oil Company of
    New Jersey (SOCNJ), which held stock in 41 other companies, which
    controlled other companies, which in turn controlled yet other
    companies. This conglomerate was seen by the public as all-pervasive,
    controlled by a select group of directors, and completely unaccountable.

    In 1904, Standard controlled 91% of production and 85% of final sales.
    Most of its output was kerosene, of which 55% was exported around
    the world.

    Standard’s dominant position in the refining industry was due
    “to unfair practices, to abuse of the control of pipe-lines,
    to railroad discriminations, and to unfair methods of competition

    1910: They also invested heavily in the gas and electric lighting business
    (including the giant Consolidated Gas Company of New York City).
    They made large purchases of stock in US Steel, Amalgamated Copper,
    and even Corn Products Refining Company.

    (GM: I wonder what BIG OIL “bought with profits” from OIL PRICE increase
    1998 $ 12.58 a Barrel to $ 147 a Barrel in June 2008, just before STOCK
    MARKET collapse? Bush-Cheney would never be INSIDER TRADERS?)
    (Y2K destroyed the sillicon valley – new Economy / Technology)
    (9/11 > 9 year WAR destroyed USA economies the ROCKEFELLER
    TRILATERAL COMMISSION’S outsourcing had not already destroyed)

    The successor companies from Standard Oil’s breakup form the core of today’s US oil industry. (Several of these companies were considered among the Seven Sisters who dominated the industry worldwide for much of the twentieth century.) They include:

    Standard Oil of New Jersey (SONJ) – or Esso (S.O.) – renamed Exxon, now part of ExxonMobil. Standard Trust companies Carter Oil, Imperial Oil (Canada), and Standard of Louisiana were kept as part of Standard Oil of New Jersey after the breakup.
    Standard Oil of New York – or Socony, merged with Vacuum – renamed Mobil, now part of ExxonMobil.
    Standard Oil of California – or Socal – renamed Chevron, became ChevronTexaco, but returned to Chevron.
    Standard Oil of Indiana – or Stanolind, renamed Amoco (American Oil Co.) – now part of BP.
    Standard’s Atlantic and the independent company Richfield merged to form Atlantic Richfield or ARCO, now part of BP. Atlantic operations were spun off and bought by Sunoco.
    Standard Oil of Kentucky – or Kyso was acquired by Standard Oil of California – currently Chevron.
    Continental Oil Company – or Conoco now part of ConocoPhillips.
    Standard Oil of Ohio – or Sohio, acquired by BP in 1987.
    The Ohio Oil Company – or The Ohio, and marketed gasoline under the Marathon name. The company is now known as Marathon Oil Company, and was often a rival with the in-state Standard spinoff, Sohio.
    Other Standard Oil spin-offs:

    Standard Oil of Iowa – pre-1911 – became Standard Oil of California.
    Standard Oil of Minnesota – pre-1911 – bought by Standard Oil of Indiana.
    Standard Oil of Illinois – pre-1911 – bought by Standard Oil of Indiana.
    Standard Oil of Kansas – refining only, eventually bought by Indiana Standard.
    Standard Oil of Missouri – pre-1911 – dissolved.
    Standard Oil of Louisiana – always owned by Standard Oil of New Jersey (now ExxonMobil).
    Standard Oil of Brazil – always owned by Standard Oil of New Jersey (now ExxonMobil).
    Other companies divested in the 1911 breakup:

    Anglo-American Oil Co. – acquired by Jersey Standard in 1930, now Esso UK.
    Buckeye Pipeline Co.
    Borne-Scrymser Co. (chemicals)
    Chesebrough Manufacturing (now Unilever, manufacturer of Vaseline)
    Colonial Oil.
    Crescent Pipeline Co.
    Cumberland Pipe Line Co.
    Eureka Pipe Line Co.
    Galena-Signal Oil Co.
    Indiana Pipe Line Co.
    National Transit Co.
    New York Transit Co.
    Northern Pipe Line Co.
    Prairie Oil & Gas.
    Solar Refining.
    Southern Pipe Line Co.
    South Penn Oil Co. – eventually became Pennzoil, now part of Shell.
    Southwest Pennsylvania Pipe Line Co.
    Swan and Finch.
    Union Tank Lines.
    Washington Oil Co.
    Waters-Pierce.

    MULLIGAN > ESSO is O.S.S. E. spelled backwards or Office Strategic Services Energy.

    O.P.E.C. from Russian coin cO.P.E.C.k and mary jo kO.P.E.C.hne

    (MULLIGAN: NOW project this to the CAUSES of the 1929 DEPRESSION and
    2008 DEPRESSION and the BUY up of STOCKS, USA homes, and BUSINESS)

    Note: Standard Oil of Colorado was not a successor company;
    the name was used to capitalize on the Standard Oil brand in
    the 1930s.

    Standard Oil of Connecticut is a fuel oil marketer not related
    to the Rockefeller companies.

  115. 115 jezebel282

    From 1George1

    > It is no secret there are anti social issues or maybe strife among decisions
    within the EMS hierachy, as posted, within a mostly volunteer organization.

    > It is also no secret that Mayor James Miron dumped managers and the EMS
    head was not among those dumped.

    > There were also Miron people among those who supported Jon Best for
    his Mayoral race.

    I have no criticism of any of the people in a family, personal, or social
    arena. That is not what this blog is supposed to be about.

    However, GAVIN there are many areas where you and your friends on the
    Republican Town Committee and Democratic Town Committee appear to
    “Kiss Ass” of each other, at the expense of the unaffiliated.

    1 – If TAXES were 1/2 as high for residents, many would be paying $ 2,000 or
    $ 3,000 less for property Tax, which could SENIORS, LOW INCOME could PAY:
    A) HEATING OIL or GAS for a WINTER
    B) Electric Bill
    C) Perscription Drubs
    D) Food

    GAVIN in your years of EMS service, how many homes of SENIORS / LOW
    INCOME had very low Temperatures causing SENIORS to get Pneumonia,
    Bronchitis, Cold, Flu, ETC ….. causing them to DIE or be hospitalized
    with very high medical bills?

    2) GAVIN you were on the Town Council all 4 years of Miron with Feehan
    and Henrick.
    GAVIN am I incorrect that PENSION OBLIGATIONS went up 42% in 43 months
    from Jan 2006 to July 2009?
    GAVIN you were on the Town Council 6 years Dec 2003 to Nov 2009 and
    A) What was the INCREASE in PENSION OBLIGATIONS and TAXES?

    B) What was the INCREASE in HEALTH CARE COSTS?

    C) Who were the Town Attorneys and Assistants and their COSTS?

    D) What was the Original Cost of the new Fire House and to date costs?
    Hint: Under $ 2 Million to Over $ 7 Million
    D – 1) Who sold the STONES and GOLDBRICKS
    D – 2) Who sold the Granite for the GREEN
    D – 3) Who sold the Stone for the WW II Memorial

    E) What ever happened to those FOI documents you supposedly bought
    and did nothing with?
    E – 1) Jim Miron was on the Charter Revision Commission you Chaired and
    you helped create the 2nd Chrater Revsion Commission.
    E – 1a) Jimmy was against the Mayor form of Government
    E – 1b) You publicly stated the Town Charter Revisions did NOT work.
    However you NEVER tried to create another Charter Revision Commission,
    after either admitting YOU FAILED the TOWN or just being deniable and
    hypocritical like the MIRONS?

    F) GAVIN how much was the BONDING for the Custom + Non custom fire trucks?
    Hint: Custom $ 570,000 + non Custom $ 230,000
    Yet your Town Council set the Stage for 2 non custom fire trucks and the
    equipment to be sold for the same $ 900 k, but at $ 400,000 per non custom
    fire truck?
    Was that payola?
    if so, what is in it for you?

    G) GAVIN – The MARCH 18 break in to my home accessed my computer,
    which still has spyware in it, and deleted documentation from JUNE 2008,
    PENSIONS, TOWN ATTORNEY FEES, FIRE TRUCKS, and more.
    – The date chosen by Harkin’s office was the 49 th anniversay of my mom’s
    death. Not dissimilar to my Mossman initial court date on 22 nd anniversary
    of my dad’s death, nor the Mossman jury verdict being entered on the 7th
    anniversary of my uncle’s death,
    – YOUR E-MAIL DUMPED a TROJAN into my computer.

    GAVIN why is it that if you were on EMS duty related to a call to me, I get
    the feeling that you, Calzone, and Best would assist in my death?

    GAVIN – I have other Town Councilor issues you won’t answer:
    1 – ECS
    2 – BoE + Town Unfunded Mandates
    3 – AVCO (compare: New London Sub Base) closed since 1992 (1986>8500 jobs)
    4 – SHAKESPEARE – closed since 1980s
    5 – RAYMARK / Contract Plating / Tilo
    * Jobs * Dumpsites * Ground water * Health/safety * Property Values
    6 – LBW
    7 – AIRPORT
    8 – DOT # 33 + TOLLS
    9 – KEATING FORD
    10 – SIKORSKY down sized 14,000 + to 6,000 jobs
    11 – DICTAPHONE under replaced from 1,100 to 400 Sikorsky
    12 – ASHCROFT / DRESSER from 1,100 to 300
    13 – Bargain News 600 jobs to Trumbull, now 120 jobs
    14 – Mobile Chemical downsized from 450 to closed – Dogstar pending
    15 – Dianon moved 350 jobs to Shelton
    16 – Town Fair closed and vacant for years – now occupied
    17 – Town Fair closed and vacant for years – now occupied
    18 – Bradleys closed and vacant for years – now BJ
    19 – COKE 250 JOBS, eventually PEPSI
    20 – AMERICAN FROZEN FOOD moved 150 jobs to milford, now 35 jobs

    GAVIN how many times have I presented information about a series of deaths
    and auto accidents to every Town Council, Manager/Mayor, Police chief,
    since 1998 and NONE of YOU did SQUAT?

    GAVIN when I presented a SLASHED TIRE to the TOWN COUNCIL and NONE OF
    YOU had the DECENCY to COMMENT in PUBLIC, so I held it in FRONT of me,
    and when HENRICK finished without commenting about my slashed tire, I put
    it around my neck.

    GAVIN since you are sooooooo concerned as an EMS Volunteer …
    Why were you NOT OUTRAGED innocent people could have been killed if I had
    a FLAT TIRE on a MAJOR ROAD and crashed into them?

    GAVIN as head of Finance and Claims, why didn’t you offer to reimburse me
    for the $ 150 for the TIRE and REALIGNMENT?

    GAVIN – For your public service as an EMS volunteer I have always praised
    you, Calzone, Best, and others.
    I have praised you as being among the MOST INTELLIGENT of your crews.
    No comment about personal lives except as excellent family people.

    All of the above are criticisms of political decisions you made and did not
    make as we have talked many times and I respect honest political beliefs.

    I know there are local, area, state, and federal people who are causal to my
    ISSUES related to PROTECTING LIVES and LIVELIHOODS, and they are both
    GHOULS and CANNIBALS in their ego centric ritualism of schadenfreude and
    sadism, because they are indoctrinated ignorant sluts and troglodytes.

    They are like those in the Coliseum watching as Christians were fed to the
    lions in a form of ProSerpine complex or Passover Complex which infects
    many readers and malpracticioners of Old Testament or Torah and classics.
    They were cheering (or silently releived) with bloodlust and fear that sooner
    or later they would become the fodder.

    So instead of telling anyone to KISS MY ASS … I understand:

    Dancing with the Devil leads to being burned.

  116. 116 1george1

    The above is a direct challenge to GAVIN to enter into political debate.

    This includes what GAVIN did to the STRATFORD TOWN CHARTER as the
    Chairman of REVISION # 1 and co-sponsor of REVISION # 2, who actively
    participated in who was on and NOT on the REVISION COMMISSION.

    If I am correct about older people or low income people DYING because
    of POLITICAL DECISIONS by CALZONE and GAVIN …..
    Then could they be criminally negligent in political decisions
    AND
    have UNDERMINED their excellent history and active years on EMS?

    I do not believe they and others (locally) were trying to create more EMS
    work or make the EMS more needed, NOT LIKE LAWYERS PERPETUATING
    PROBLEMS for BILLING PURPOSES.

    I WANT GAVIN + CALZONE enraged and engaged in POLITICAL DEBATE.

    I WILL SEE BOTH OF THEM.

    They will either engage and take responsibility for irresponsibile politcal
    decisions OR like BURTURLA they will hide their eyes everytime they see me!

    Mossman could NOT look me in the eyes after I whipped out a VIDEO camera
    and he and STATE POLICE RANK OFFICE OTELLO … scatter like cockroaches!

    I hope MOSSMAN is rotting in HELL for NOT protecting LIVES and LIVELIHOODS.
    I hope BURTURLA, BERCHEM, WILLINGER, NORM and the REST ROT in HELL after
    they live LONG LIVES.

    I hope all the SCAVENGERS, GHOULS, PARASITES, and CANNIBALS in the US
    POLITICAL and INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITIES who committed TREASON also
    ROT in HELL after they live LONG LIVES.

    They give “LIP SERVICE” to BELIEF in GOD.
    If there is a GOD and if GOD makes JUDGEMENTS on individuals then GOD,
    not me, shall be their JUDGE.

    All I know is
    too many innocent people have been hurt.
    too many ignorant people have been led down paths contrary to best
    interests towards “pursuit of happiness” and “more perfect union.”

    Many cultures & people participate in ritualistic murders and prey on others.

    It does not have to be that way.
    That is the way it is.
    The (savage) animals run the farm, ranch, fishery, and feeding system.
    Cowardly looking glass warriors and audience get psychic gratification
    hurting innocent people, when THEY and THEIR ANCESTORS were victims
    of those who put them in place.
    > THIS POST is meant for LOCAL and NON LOCAL AUDIENCES!
    > The MASTERS are SLAVES to LONG DEAD DIE NASTY Philosophies!

  117. 117 jezebel282

    From 1George1

    George and I are actually in agreement with regards to Jez’s statement
    “Pardon my language (I may be a bit upset) but does someone have to
    FREAKIN’ DIE before anyone does anything?????”

    I choose not to include this in my above post, for reasons that become
    obvious:

    If GAVIN and the COUNCIL choose to investigate my requests for help
    and the lists of people who ACTUALLY DID DIE and were STRATFORD
    RESIDENTS ( and many other jurisdictions ), then maybe some people
    would be ALIVE, now.

    If GAVIN and his COUNCILS took a stand on PENSIONS and HEALTH CARE,
    and UNFUNDED MANDATES and ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT and MORE …
    maybe our MIL RATE would be below 25 INSTEAD of ABOVE 33 and maybe
    some people would not have gotten SICK and / or DIED – Directly relevant
    to JEZE’S POINT and my COUNTER POSTS.

    Again, this is not about people’s personal lives or families or the like.
    IT IS ABOUT SAFETY and HEALTH and MORALS, all relevant to the TOWN
    CHARTER, for which this BLOG was named.

    And GAVIN … LET’S start with something small that you already stated
    PUBLICLY – the TOWN CHARTER does NOT WORK.

    Will you committ to writing a LETTER to the EDITOR requesting the PUBLIC
    to CREATE and sign INITIATIVES for PETITIONS to REOPEN the CHARTER and
    to RESTORE the old form of Government with STRONGER restrictions on
    the myriad of CONFLICTS of INTERESTS and STEERING, and to DECREASE the
    POWER of the POLITICAL PARTIES nad INCREASE the PUBLICS’ POWERS and
    RIGHTS?

    GAVIN – I respect your intelligence.
    We disagree politically.
    Wanna DEBATE or NOT?
    The latter will become self evident…..

    IF you and the POLITICAL PARTIES have LEGITIMATE POSITIONS, why FEAR
    having them in the OPEN, instead of Executive Session or Private Country
    Clubs where CITIZENS are denied access to the orwellian B UTTER NUTS
    or the TESTA “Bridgeport room” where Stratford’s assets have been divied?

  118. 118 jezebel282

    From 1George1,

    Jeze,

    Gavin has nothing to do with BoE grievances – wrong again, per usual.

    Do you lack confidence in him or/and do any blogger lack confidence
    in honest debate about?
    The Town Charter
    TAXES
    Safety
    Health
    Morals
    MIL RATES
    Personnel
    Health Care
    Pensions
    STEERED CONTRACTS
    AVCO – now Aug 9 deadline
    RAYMARK Toxins – Health + Property Values
    TAXES
    UNFUNDED MANDATES
    Personnel decisions
    Managers / Department Heads
    ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
    Town Charter
    SLAVERY to BRIDGEPORT whim
    TAXES
    COUNTRY CLUB thievery and bunko
    DRUG TRAFFIC + AIRPORT
    LBW
    Pleasure Beach
    Shakespeare Theater
    DTC – RTC Primaries
    POLICE PILFERAGE PATRONAGE and PERFIDITY
    Malfeafance
    TAXES
    Human Resources
    lack of residency
    TAXATION inconsistancies
    JUDICIAL impropriety
    TAXES – MIL RATES
    Town Attorneys / Department head
    JOY STICK pay raises for MAYORIAL AIDS past / present
    COMMUTER PARKING
    PARKING GARAGE
    TAXES
    Mil Rates
    SAFETY n HEALTH
    Town Councils Conflicts of Interests
    Town Charters – ABRIDGEMENT of CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
    Grand theft
    VOTER RIGHTS FRAUD
    JUNTA power grabs
    Using the constitution as toilet paper related to unaffiliated
    COMPUTER THEFT (O’Meara + me)
    Eminent domain by Bridgeport / Airport allowed by Burturlas

  119. 119 jezebel282

    George,

    “Gavin has nothing to do with BoE grievances – wrong again, per usual.”

    I think you are wrong. In fact I think Gavin is going to have WAY bigger problems come September 1.

  120. 120 jezebel282

    From Ronmoreau:

    ” ….not for outsiders
    who are not chosen to be within the Town Committees ”

    I feel compelled to remind you and everyone that All Stratford Republican and DemocraticTown Committee members are ELECTED to that position by Stratford registered voters.

    So you tell me George.

    Who’s at fault for this “strangle hold on government”?

  121. 121 1george1

    I feel compelled to remind you and everyone that All Stratford Republican and DemocraticTown Committee members are ELECTED to that position by Stratford registered voters.

    So you tell me George.
    Who’s at fault for this “strangle hold on government”?

    I have NEVER VOTED for ANYONE to be on a TOWN COMMITTEE!

    To VOTE for TOWN COMMITTEE, one has to be a Registered D or R!

    Tell me Ron:
    The R lowered the QUORUM # and MEET in a PRIVATE Country Club,
    which I do NOT have a RIGHT to attend.

    They kicked YOU, JOY, and GOODRICH to the curb adding Fredette
    and Gavin, who leapfrogged from the DTC to RTC passing over Lifetime
    Republicans.

    Tell me Ron – Are there limited # of people controlling both Committees
    which control the party money to support elections, from many people
    who have Government Jobs or work for Government Contractors and sub
    contractors, where virtually ALL of them DEPEND on PARTY BLESSINGS?

    Do the PARTIES SUPPORT FRIENDS?
    Do the PARTIES ATTACK perceived ENEMIES?
    Have the PARTIES ever resorted to ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES like using FIRE to
    a CAR or BARN or SLASHING a POOL LINER …. because of allegedly ….

    Do the PARTIES arrange awarding Health Insurance and Pensions and Jobs
    in BoE and Town and State and Feds?

    Do the PARTIES arrange for friendly JUDGES, PROSECUTORS, WORKERS, and contributors to be nominated, endorsed, promoted, and awarded?

    Normal networking to trust our friends.

    Ron – write credibly that the POLITICAL PARTIES have NOT ABUSED their
    positions of TRUST and PROFIT?

    Ron – I have articulated Stratford should have a MIL RATE of 15 Mils.

    In Plato’s Republic, Plato refers to the Military as being like DOGS.
    They protect their MASTERS.
    Those who FEED them.
    Those who EMPOWER them.

    Tammany Hall did exactly that for immigrants and then the settled.
    Jobs for Votes and support.
    Housing for Votes and support.
    Some power for Votes and support.

    The PARTIES leaders created and allowed BLACK SLAVERY, INDIAN GENOCIDE,
    and REPRESSED WORKERS rights.

    As time passed Blacks were Constitutionally and legally emancipated, but
    shuffled from Plantations to ghettos and some intermingling.
    Sports, Entertainment and Drug Traffic are high paying.
    Military, Government, and Government Subcontract = middle class.
    A disproportionate number are poor or jailed.

    American Indian Genocide and different form of ghetto, called reservations
    and were allowed to become BAGMEN for GAMBLING / VICE of Casinos and
    Alcohol / Tobacco.

    Ghetto is a Jewish term. The vast majority of American Jewish are hard
    working lower / middle class stiffs, like most Americans.
    A disproportionate high profile of many of the 2 % of americans who are
    jewish has political interest at the heart of it, besides the intellect and
    talents of the best and brightest and a few of the worst.

    Irish Tammany had positions before and above later Jewish, italian and many
    others, and often worked at the direction of WASPS.

    The preRevolution america contained Protestant, Catholic (MD), Jewish,
    and other in the MIX.

    It has never been a perfect system.
    It has great opportunities.
    I was born into it, as were most of the readers.

    We all want to make it work best for ourselves.
    Some are more equal than others.
    Some prefer to steal and steer, while giving CRUMBS

  122. 122 1george1

    Today’s CT POST “you said it” allowed me to question IF ANY POLITICIANS
    are any different or worse than ROWLAND, GANIM, & NEWTOWN?

    To any BLOGGERS = Name a single person you believe would be willing to
    DEBATE me about the INTEGRITY and ACTS of the POLITICAL PARTIES?

    There are good Democrats and Republicans.
    Unfortunately too many live in FEAR!

    That was another reason I really liked Sylvia (who liked troublemakers).

    And I respect Gavin, Ron, PCS, Phyllis, and others who sign their names.
    I understand and do not disagree with others who need being anonymous.

  123. 123 ronmoreau

    George ,

    I guess I have to say it AGAIN George.

    I feel compelled to remind you and everyone that All Stratford Republican and DemocraticTown Committee members are ELECTED to that position by Stratford registered voters.
    You said,
    “They kicked YOU, JOY, and GOODRICH to the curb adding Fredette
    and Gavin, who leapfrogged from the DTC to RTC passing over Lifetime
    Republicans.”

    We were kicked out by 3rd District Stratford REPUBLICANS in a lawful ELECTION.

    So what’s your point?

  124. 124 ronmoreau

    So what if only 20 3rd District Republicans out of 600 showed up for the election.

    The insiders show up and we are out.

    What does that tell you?

    George, It brings me to my first question.

    Who’s at fault for this “strangle hold on government”?

  125. 125 ronmoreau

    “We were kicked out by 3rd District Stratford REPUBLICANS in a lawful ELECTION.”

    DISCLAIMER…Several of the 20 “3rd district Republican? voters” were registered Democrats a few weeks earlier.

  126. 126 1george1

    Ron
    You confirmed my point that Registered Republicans and Democrats
    ONLY can vote related to Party Delegates.

    You pointed out 20 Democrats switched to Republican in 3rd District.

    You pointed out votes changed the people in the RTC.

    1 – I have 1 vote.
    2 – I have NO interest in affiliating = guilt by association.
    3 – Very few 3rd District Republicans bothered to Vote.

    What has happened in Stratford is the fault of the system’s insiders and
    the general voters.

    Voters are ignorant of the system in which the insiders CHANGED the
    RTC BUY-LAWS, and have a stranglehold on the system, using PUBLIC
    TREASURY to give jobs, promotions, and contracts to allies who in-turn
    contribute to perpetuate themselves.

    The general public is so busy with life and making a living they do not pay
    attention.
    A significant percent of Republicans and Democrats have a FINANCIAL
    INTEREST in who runs the local / state / national political parties.

    Ron, cummulatively you 3 posts answered the question of who is at fault,
    when placed in context of how the sytem is set up.

    The DTC votes TOWN WIDE.
    The RTC votes each of 10 Districts. Control a Majority = Control Town RTC.

    It would be easier for the Public to take over the Stratford DTC than the
    Stratford RTC, if I am correct in my understanding of the process?

    The donkey and elephant were taken over by skunks and vultures.

  127. 127 sudds

    To George’s point…

    (see George, people can/will defend you when you are clear, concise & correct)

    Not for nothing, but the R’s & D’s in the town are VERY “closed” groups!!!

    I’ve been an R for about two years now (full disclosure, I’m more of an “I” than an “R”… I just switched to vote in the primaries, and have never changed it back)… and I have NO idea when/where the town’s R’s even meet!!!

    Although, I was contacted ONCE by someone who I know and asked to attend a Repub town meeting… but I was also told how I should vote at said meeting!!! (note: I was NOT able to attend said meeting)

  128. 128 1george1

    Sudds,
    It took 5 minutes for me to get back from the floor to my chair.
    Thank you for the defense!
    Next Jeze “might” claim some of my recent posts are relevant?

    From Sudds: (cogent post)
    1) I have NO idea when/where the town’s R’s even meet!!!

    2) Although, I was contacted ONCE by someone who I know
    and asked to attend a Repub town meeting…

    3) but I was also told how I should vote at said meeting!!!

    4) (note: I was NOT able to attend said meeting)

    From George: answers

    1) RTC Meetings are at the Mill River Country Club
    A) When they were at Booth Park – they were 4th Thursday of Month 7:00
    B) Esq. Kelly at the request of Norm / Lou / Bill / et al lowered the number
    of people necessary to “constitute a quorum.”
    C) By reducing the number for a quorum ….. it lessens need to call people
    to come to meetings …. who might ask embarassing questions or raise issues
    that certain peopl do not want raised (See # 2 + # 3 above)

    2) Being asked to attend a Meeting, might simply mean they need a live
    body to be present to satisfy BUY-LAWS and LAWS under
    Secretary of State; Attorney General; and Chief Criminal Attorney.
    A) See reply # 1

    3) Being told how to Vote?
    A) I am as shocked as the Inspector in Rick’s Cafe in movie Casablanca.
    B) Is being told how to vote consistant with the purview and public image
    the Republican party portrays OR with the reality of …. politics?

    4) Not attending – Addition by subtraction? 😦 (Kidding)
    A) The liars, cheats, and thieves wear out the decent, honest, and/or less
    bad people because they have vested interest in control.
    B) Knowing the violent nature of people who feel cheated and who all know
    the HOME addresses of all of the Pensioners, Managers, Elected, RTC + DTC,
    one of these nights some people may get a visit by people like people who
    burned peoples cars and barns.
    – Those INSIDER people already caused REAR END AUTO ACCIDENTS in 1999
    to myself and female family, friends, and business support and totalled my
    car, where I just got a minor concussion, but could have been killed by
    allies of Burturla and Barnhart and Cabrol and Mossman.
    – I am against violence. If all the cowardly political whores were killed and
    put in jail, the USA might lose 10 % of the population.
    – Worse, many innocent people would be victimized!
    – Worst, the cycle would perpetuate.

  129. 129 ronmoreau

    sudds,

    “Although, I was contacted ONCE by someone who I know and asked to attend a Repub town meeting… but I was also told how I should vote at said meeting!!! (note: I was NOT able to attend said meeting)”

    Was your invitation to a Republican town committee election or a town committee meeting?

    You are allowed to vote at the town committee election but NOT at Regular Town commiittee meetings unless you are a mamber.

    “…I have NO idea when/where the town’s R’s even meet!!! ”

    The yearly meeting schedules for both parties are posted in the town clerks office in town hall. These meetings are open to ALL Stratford registered Republicans and Democrats respectively. NOT just town committee members.

    George.

    By George I think you’ve got it.

    “The R lowered the QUORUM # and MEET in a PRIVATE Country Club,
    which I do NOT have a RIGHT to attend.”

    It doesn’t matter where the meeting is. You are not allowes to attend because you are not a registered Republican.

  130. 130 1george1

    My car totaled
    My Van tire slashed
    Family died related to appeal dates or personal icon dates
    Friends died related to appeal dates or personal icon dates
    Family of friends died related to appeal dates or personal icon dates
    Support died related to appeal dates or personal icon dates
    Finance and assets attacked
    Employers finance and assets attacked

    Creatures like Mossman/Imbro/Burturla like creating peoples’
    lives like “Book of Job.”

    In my calls to multiple states, people who are masons, jews, catholics,
    protestants, and others are suffering similar fate.

    There are Police + Military who have a PERVERSE VIEW of LIFE.

    It is proven the PEARL HARBOR was allowed to HAPPEN
    – USA Soldiers / Sailors SET UP to DIE

    It has been proven and will be accepted that 9 /11 was allowed to HAPPEN
    or actively caused by people within the US Intelligence Community.
    – INNOCENT CIVILIANS, + POLICE, + FIRE, + EMS, murdered

    In WAR, Battles like Battle of the Bulge, some lines are spread thin to entice
    ENEMY to attack, sacrificing Soldiers, and setting up a trap.

    In WAR, the GERMANS and RUSSIA lost MILLIONS, while the ENGLISH/AMERICANS
    built up forces and took over OIL RICH Mid – East, Italy, and
    then France/Germany
    WEST FRANCE and SPAIN / PORTUGAL had no AMERICAN / GERMAN battles?
    ENGLAND’S resigned KING who married Wallace Simpson, lived safely in
    VICHY FRANCE?

    On a daily basis a few Jews and Palistinians are murdered for political reasons.

    In the Military and Politics, there is a term “acceptable losses.”

    Those acceptable losses tend not to be friends and family of deciders.
    Those losses are human beings and parents / relatives of people.

    Around the world Weapons / ammo created and shipped from
    USA + RUSSIA + CHINA + ENGLAND + FRANCE = (UN Security Council)
    kills many innocent people.

    Compare violence and general population of USA vs.
    RUSSIA + CHINA + ENGLAND + FRANCE
    Western Europe NATO / Eastern Europe WARSAW

    If PEACE can be declared with WAR OFF LIMITS in SOME AREAS ….

    What is the logical question about the lack of need for WAR,
    if alternative sources of profit can be found for weapons makers?

  131. 131 1george1

    RON,

    I knew the situation about voting and attendance PRIOR to writing
    certain people have Strangle hold on RTC / DTC / Stratford.

    RON,

    I believe: You were defending a system you believe in and NOT the
    creatures who have bastardized the system.

    We look at things differently.
    I suspect we have many similar conclusions?
    However, I would not want to put words in your mouth, not post for you
    on the blog, nor project your beliefs.
    I would not want you to be endangered by those creatures as a free thinker
    who is unafraid to post his feelings.

    RON and SUDDS
    Thank you for helping to LIGHT UP the DARK SIDE blog post.

    I would have preferred giving the DARK SIDE to:

    DARTH DECILIO or
    Bee UTTER NUT ALDRICH or
    BAD MEDICINE – Berchem Moses Devlin = B MD or
    BURTURLA -> angram spells U R BRUTAL ( try rearranging the letters ) or
    mIRON CURTAIN or
    mALLOY – MAL MAtricks of Euectic melting points, or
    CABROL ROOT replacement
    HARKINS – SHARK i.n. siders

  132. 132 ronmoreau

    George,

    My goal is to educate the voter. The system is what it is. The citizens of Stratford can control town goverment by VOTING good people to represent them.
    on the Town committees. These are the people who endorse candidates for local,state and federal government elections. If only bad people vote you get bad people in government.

  133. 133 1george1

    RON,

    We have COMPLETE AGREEMENT on YOUR POSITION which is much
    like why I have done many Stratford and USA related situations.

    Unfortunately I also have other concerns about peoples’ safety and
    health, which also seems to cause some to post anonymously.

    This blog had about 340,000 hits, to date.

    Many are the same people and groups of people.

    Slowly, I have affected positions of many people.

    I do not think JEZE will controvert my position that I raise unique
    facts, circumstances, postions, situations, and questions.

    One of those ancient GREEKS (Socrates?) postulated that acknowledging
    ones ignorance was the beginning of wisdom.

    Even the most hard hearted criminal, police, state police, FBI, Lawyer,
    and political animal has a soft spot somewhere for someone.
    Even Hitler cared about some people and some cared about him.

    Eventually those people watching the lions eat jews, christians, and
    others evolved in their points of view …..
    The roman empire was completely conquored by beliefs.
    The roman city was sacked a couple times,
    The beliefs of the ANCIENTS has lived multiple millentium:
    EGYPT – HEBREW – SUMER – BABYLONIA – GREEK – ROMAN – ARAMAIC
    CELT – GERMAN – HISPANIA / HIBERNIA – BRITON – NORSE

    Catholic Scholars – called doctors of the Church tried to convert ancient
    Pagan belief to work within Catholic Universality.
    Catholicism, like other beliefs, are vulnerable to babylonian captivities,
    whereas MALPRACTICE takes over the HIERACHY of RELIGEONS or Countries
    or Towns. Such is the nature of man …. according to Federalist Papers,
    along with various Political Science, Philosophies, and Religious beliefs…

    At least from what I can figure out …. 😦

  134. 134 1george1

    Town Council Meeting August 9 I raised and issue which gives the
    parties and actors potental mitigation – that they were manipulated
    and unwittingly moved around like human chess pieces, the same way
    I and my family and others were, from when I worked in the USPS.

    I HANDED to the
    Town Councilors & Carol,
    Mayor,
    Attorneys Bishop, Kelly, Florek
    Dept Heads: Burturla, Casey, Gene, Collier, Bauer
    Press
    even GAVIN showed and laughed when I asked about blog debate
    and others
    and e-mailed to various press
    – Page 3 first 10 newspapers are an old joke. added political joking opinions.
    My intent in the whole below is NOT to insult ANYONE, but to make people
    aware they and other could be manipulated and other operations that can
    be working against the USA. I gave to John Burturla hoping these were not
    caused or allowed by Homeland Security but could cause ending of terror
    from within the USA Government?

    August 9, 2010 Stratford Town Council Public Forum
    My name is George Mulligan. I have lived at 429 Housatonic Avenue,
    Stratford, CT. 06615 since 1978.
    Actually the Stratford ZIP CODE changed from 06497 in 1998, the same
    year that:
    * The $ 95 million Pension Bond was created to be used to repay
    itself and pay all pension obligations.
    However after 3 years the Pension portfolio became under funded
    due in part to outrageous pension renegotiations, and perhaps
    intentional Town Political subversions, and Stratford Tax Payers
    paid an added $ 180 million since 2002, with over $ 1 billion projected
    obligation to pensions
    and more to the Town and Board of Education Health Care benefits
    programs, over a 60 year window.

    * AVCO was awarded the preferred Vender status.
    Today is the latest date for the ARMY / politicians,
    to award AVCO SAEP or bring in a new (the real?) developer.


    It is my belief that there are outsiders creating games to manipulate
    people, that same way I and my family and coworkers and others were manipulated and used as human messages when I worked for
    the USPS from Sept 1971 to April 1988.

    People unwittingly had been moved around and their names,
    home addresses, business address, and Phone numbers or
    social security numbers were cruelly manipulated for embedded
    steganographic messages for political purposes.

    Here are other analogous situations of people being manipulated
    without having a clue

    —- SOME READERS MAY HAVE FUN – SOME WILL BE FRIGHTERED!

    1) Names ending in “Y” nation-local vertical operation: Relationships-Appearances?:

    A) Sikorsk“Y” helicopters: “White House; Black ops used to sp“Y!”
    Chene“Y” ex-CEO “Halliburton owned Dresser.”
    “GHW Bush sold Dresser’s brand Ashcroft.”
    “Neil (“Y”ale) Mallon Bush, son of GHW Bush and
    brother of “W” was named for Dresser’s ex-CEO, Neil Mallon.”

    B) The AVCO SAEP decider for the Arm“Y” is: William Birne“Y.”
    “I believe At least 3 different Ex-Army Judge Advocates are involved
    in AVCO SAEP:”
    1- “Rep Team Stratford for Monti Posillico AVCO presentation
    was Barry Steinberg;”
    2- “Westport partner (?) merged with: ex-Town Attorney Burturla’s
    firm;”
    3- “Partner to Florek?”

    C) Aren’t Esq. Kevin Kell“Y” and Esq. James Miron, running for
    DeBicella seat? How are they different?
    “Esq. Kell“Y” was paid over $500,000 Town Attorney FEES (4 years)”
    from “Stratford Mayor James Miron and Town Attorney R. Burturla?”
    “Kell“Y”is mayor Harkin’s Town Attorney Bishop’s partner, who allows
    Esq. Burturla to keeps Stratford cases” the same way Esq. Burturla
    fed cases to Esq. Kelly.

    D) Federal and State connections?
    Wasn’t Esq, Kevin Kell“Y “(Investigator) for Esq. Blumenthal?”
    Isn’t Senator LIEberman,
    ex-National-State Democratic Party Chairman John Moran BaileY’s Biographer,
    “Esq. Blumenthal’s mentor-predecessor?”
    “Lieberman=Chairs Senate Homeland SecuritY!”
    John Burturla=former CT State Trooper head Homeland SecuritY,
    while Lieberman chaired the Senate Committee.”

    (By themselves these are harmless facts, I suspect some people will not
    like these dots connected. However my intent was pointing out some
    people may have been manipulated = gives them mitigation
    “Ye shall know the truth … the truth shall set you free …)

    E) Town Council Town Charter Revision Commissions:
    “Esq. Kelly oversaw Town Charter Revision #1!”
    “Esq. Burturla Town oversaw Charter Revision #2
    “Chairman: Esq. Florek, while on Town Pay!”

    1F) Police (State) Connections:
    Esq. Kell“Y’s mother “Stratford Police Chiefs” “Mossman’s + Imbro’s Secretary?”
    Brothers: Rich Burturla Stratford Town Attorney and Police Chief John Burturla. Father Joseph Stratford Police Captain “retired 1985?”
    (Highest Pensioners hired: “1978-1985!”)
    “Burturla firm $9million-Stratford, since 1996?”
    (ex)CT. State Troopers: Moore, Schirillo, Burturla! –
    Federal Judge: Robert Chatigne“Y”
    “Bridgeport Police:” “Dan DeBicella’s father and Dom Costello.”
    “ex-Stratford Police:” became Comers became “Bridgeport FBI co-head?”
    “ex-Stratford Police:” Joe HarrY became “CT. State Prosecutor?”
    “ex-Bridgeport U.S. Attorneys:”
    – DroneY became Federal Judge!
    – DooleY became State Judge?
    – Federal Judge: ChatigneY.
    – “Public Defenders:” ex-Town Councilors Naples and Williams?

    G) More “Y:” Stratford elected/appointed:
    mallo“Y;” barnab “Y;” silhave “Y;” feene“Y;” bran“Y”an

    H) CT POST: Michael Dal”Y” + Hugh Baile”Y”

    I) United Technologies: James Mihale”Y”

    —-

    – Possible
    ANIMUS of contracting and special treatment for “front law firms?”

    “Law Firms” websites clients: massive projects, companies, Insurance,
    Boards-Education, Municipalities, Housing/Parking Authorities,
    Developers, unions, managements, etc.?

    Haven’t Ex-Bridgeport Mayor Bucci & Willinger/Berchem Law firms
    been involved in multiple AVCO bids?
    Have both firms represented both Bridgeport & Stratford?
    Which client pays: “SikorskY Airport or/and AVCO?”

    Operational Steganography embedded appropriate specific messages
    within nomenclature and numerology:

    #1-Stratford Police Chiefs/Rank names embedded messages:
    Mossman + Imbro (hidden: glio) + Burturla + Knapp

    Becomes: “M” “O.S.S.”“man.”
    > O.S.S. is the WW II organization which preceded the C. I. A.
    – Burturla (anagram: “U” “R” BRUTAL)
    – Police Capt Gene Vedock = French Vidoq Society = 1st formal Detective
    – Knapp were names of 2 Stratford Police Captains
    & KNAPP (Serpico) COMMISSION = POLICE CORRUPTION

    “I” “m” “bro” “G” “OIL,”
    > Question: Hidden message to show Military INTENT to HIDE OIL
    (drive up prices)

    Kari Dooley – U. S. Attorney, prior to 9/11 – Iraq war
    > Backwards YE LOOT(d) IRAQ(k) – sub: “t for d – k for q”

    #2- Hidden Messages within names to show INTENT of future
    operations, which came to pass:

    “I” “m” “bro” (“G” “OIL),”
    > Question: Hidden message show G2 Mason INTENT to HIDE OIL
    (drive up prices)

    Kari Dooley – U. S. Attorney, prior to 9/11 – Iraq war
    > Backwards YE LOOT(d) IRAQ(k)– sub: “t for d – k for q”

    RTC Registrar DeCilio > backwards is OIL ICED
    > Hidden message USA INTENT to HIDE OIL (drive up prices)

    RTC Registrar Miron + Mayor Miron
    > mIRON CURTAIN = all fell in disgrace.

    IRON to ALLOY, an ALLOY is mixed, stronger, and more advanced
    mIRON to mALLOY (Tom + Dan)

    Tom Moore is hidden message about UTOPIA writer:
    SIR (SAINT) THOMAS MOORE
    (“Man for all Seasons” and Stratford’s motto was a “Town for all Seasons”)

    * Ganim (anagram): GI MAN
    * Gavin (anagram) GI VAN
    * Norman(s) Aldrich (old rich)

    #3-Embedded operational confluence:
    > O.P.E.C. cartel; created 9/11/1960
    > 9/11/1942 Pentagon ground broken
    > 9/11/2001 WTC + Pentagon attacked

    > k.O.P.E.C or kO.P.E.K Russian penny,
    > Mary Jo kO.P.E.C.hne = Ted Kennedy/Chap-pa-quid-dick.
    > Pentagon ground broken 9/11/1942;
    > O.P.E.C. created 9/11/1990;
    > W.T.C. + Pentagon attacked 9/11/2001

    Keenan Long Wire
    – contain USSR: Korean War lasted 1172 Days=K.G.B. (K=11,G=7,B=2)

    SO.VIETnam was Indochina – SO. Vietnam can be read as SOVIET MAN

    FIDEL cASTRO, placed by Military vs. Mafia: Marine Motto: Semper FIDELis;
    Cape Kennedy ASTROnauts

    #4-Embedded messages in Airplane flight numbers,
    via number/letter substitution Code

    > KAL-007: simple tense Hebrew-License to kill
    > ValuJet 529+BIE (295) of Locker-BIE;
    > 9/11/2001:
    – United Airlines: 93 (I see) + 175 (age) 9/11/2001:
    – American Airlines: 11+77 =1717
    > 17171 Mason Grand Lodge Founding date
    Several high profile airline crashes domestically and foreign
    with Airline flights spelling messages
    > Schullenberger: 1549 = idea, spelled backwards

    – Jeze ma agree with this one?

    #5-Star July 15: Ex-Stratford Police Officer’s O’Meara blogged on StratfordCharter.wordpress.com, while not in a police paid capacity.

    Was O’Meara on job injury, covering a shift for Miron-Burturla-Imbro’s
    epileptic police hire Justin LoSchiavo?
    I find it outrageous Stratford politics, police, State police, judge,
    Prosecutor took his computer?

    My networked computers-external hard drive back ups were attacked
    March 18 (my mom’s 1961 death),
    June 9, and July 14.
    I believe O’Meara’s antagonists also dislike my Pension, Fire Truck,
    AVCO, and political writing?
    July 15th, My Viruses disappeared, while Star story was being popularly read?
    Did local political get scared off?

    #6-*Antinomian: caeteris paribus:

    Deconstructing possible: “anfractuous manipulated clerisy
    and concatenation deracination?”

    “Feb 2009” PBS NOVA, “The SPY FACTORY:” 9/11/2001 caused
    NSC law changes.

    >Created “total satellite>Trans-oceans fiber-optic-cable
    ATT interceptions” post-9/11/2001.

    > Law changes gave “NSC-White House (D.O.D.-C.I.A.)”
    ultimate INSIDER TRADERS access, with unlimited
    VOICE/DATA ACCESS to “ALL USA BUSINESSESPEOPLE?”

    > “Brain washing” is a term from 1950s, after ORWELL.
    There are proven methods for projecting suggestions!

    #7-Summary: I believe people in local, state, federal, &
    international capacities act illegally & manipulate
    people without their knowledge & I believe very dangerous.

    Objective: may give criminals, mitigation?

    — Abot the first 10 are from an old joke – I added a few

    Who Reads Newspapers?

    The Wall Street Journal: is read by the people who run the country.

    The New York Times: is read by people who think they run the country.

    The Washington Post: is read by people who think they ought to run the country.

    USA Today: is read by people who think they ought to run the country
    but don’t understand The Washington Post.

    The Los Angeles Times: is read by people who wouldn’t mind running
    the country, if they could spare the time.

    The Boston Globe: is read by people whose parents used to run the country.

    The New York Daily News: is read by people who aren’t too sure
    who’s running the country?

    The New York Post: is read by people who don’t care who’s running
    the country, as long as they do something scandalous.

    San Francisco Chronicle: is read by people who aren’t sure there
    is a country, or that a country is a good idea in the 1st place?

    The Miami Herald: is read by people who are running another country.

    The Chicago Tribune: is read by people who live in the Midwest, which
    readers of the other newspapers don’t think is part of the country.

    Variety: is read by people who do not care what is written about them,
    but need to see their names and/or their clients name associated with
    self indulgence, shock, sex, drugs, alcohol, scandal, and notoriety.
    Known to worship golden calf type award statues:
    Golden Globe; Oscar; Tony; Emmy; SAG; Guild; Critic;

    Izvestia: (Delivered news) is read by government nomenkltura and
    apparatchik to stay abreast of the latest Russian government lies
    and delusions. (Counterpart: Washington Post, The Times, & Newsweek)

    Pravda: (Truth) is read by Communist party people, who wish it was softer,
    for toilet paper.

    Mad Magazine: is read by people who should run the Country.

    Stars and Stripes: is read by ranks and files of patriots, and
    “those who betray them and our beliefs”
    and allow our Country run by:
    Warlords, WarLockes; Warwhores; Warmongers; War Bucks; War gamers; Plutocrats; Mensamorons, Logocracrats; Schadenfreude-ist; Sadists;
    Morelockes; Oligarchy; OILgarchy; Narcokleptocracy; Kratocracy;
    Kleptocracy; and Puppeteer Chess masters, who use people as pieces.

    CIA Presidential Daily Briefing: is composed and read by willing and
    useful idiots for History’s zigs, zags, repetitions, perversions,
    ego massaging, psychic gratification, power, money, and disinformation.

    The Sun, Telegraph, The Times:
    Wikipedia > The newspaper industry in England is dominated by national newspapers, all of which are edited in London.
    Multiple fonts and icons are embedded within each publication,
    including multilingual, pseudo classical fonts, and steganography
    with number-letter code pad messages from the Home Office to
    primogeniture nobility, cut outs, operatives, surrogates, and
    collateral relatives.
    Directors: operations, investments, seed money, appanage, royalties,
    and other considerations.
    Using stratification, hierarchical increments, and gradation the classically educated titled can move into government, military, intelligence, academia, private industry, bureaucracy, corporocracy, entertainment,
    (similar to movement of Trilateral Commission or
    Council of Foreign affairs, in/out of government or business).

    Created byMagna Carta lords, nobles, peers, relatives, surrogates,
    and people who cause all of the world’s problem for money $$s.

    Le Monde – deGaulle inspired, post WW II –Created or read by people
    who cause all of the of the world’s problems.
    Export world wide sedition for arms sales:
    Normans run England
    -> Avignon Papacy
    -> Diasporas
    -> American + French colonies Revolutions;
    -> Lenin – Russian Revolution
    -> PEKING China revolution
    -> HoChi Min – Indo China
    -> Ayatola Khomeini – Iran Revoultion;
    -> Created WW II in Vichy France + USA + inland Britain,
    causing billions of human deaths in 2 centuries!

    ANY QUESTIONS?

    The above are facts and opinions with my intent on ending violent
    activities against relatively innocent people and others.

  135. 135 ronmoreau

    I urge HONEST Democrats and Republicans to get out and VOTE in todays primary election. Just do it.

  136. 136 sudds

    Ummm… can you please clarify your meaning of “honest” for me… umm, I mean for us???

  137. 137 ronmoreau

    sudds,

    1 a : free from fraud or deception : legitimate, truthful b : genuine, real

  138. 138 1george1

    Sudds and Ron,

    I know there are many honest, decent, truthful, real Democrats and
    Republicans. Many have been sources. Even those who disagree with
    some or many of my positions, there is plenty of room for honest
    political disagreements.
    No one is perfect, but at least they care about other people and do
    things for the Town, Country, and people.

    (Gavin always gets deserved praise for EMS + more, despite my b…b…ing)

    However there are DEMONcrats and RepubliCONNartists who …….

    Who knows what EVIL “lurks in the hearts of men?”
    “The EVIL that men do, long outlive them…..”

    I read there was a plane crash involving ex-Senator Ted Stevens and
    “W”‘s former head of NASA, before / during / after Columbia explosion
    over Bush’s ranch in TX.

    I have always believed the 17 ASTRONAUTS who died in the 3 worst
    “accidents” were murdered.

    That has been conveyed in the past.
    A new set of eyes have been looking over my material.
    I am against violence.
    If violence happens to murderers and traitors, because patriots do not
    like sabotage and treason, I feel badly for the innocents, including the
    families of BAD PEOPLE.

    NO ONE will ever know.

    All I can do is my best to protect lives and livelihoods.
    The costs have been fearsome, including financial, but lives and livelihoods
    are THE PRIORITY.
    I do not regret any efforts or money spent.
    I wish my life and lives of family members were not impacted by others.

    I would like to see GOOD Democrats and Republicans and others do the
    RIGHT THINGS for the USA and GENERAL POPULATION, which I believe
    would make it better for them too.
    Even if BAD Democrats and Republicans and others do the RIGHT THINGS
    for the USA and GENERAL POPULATION, I believe would make it better for
    them too.

    I guess I am a naive cynic?

  139. 139 ronmoreau

    If only bad people vote you get bad people in government.

  140. 140 sudds

    If only George knew when to stop… we might have him in our government!!!

    Seriously George… “DEMONcrats and RepubliCONNartists”… are you TRYING to get people to laugh AT you???

  141. 141 mikereynolds

    As of 2:30pm only 128 people voted at Stratford High. Disgraceful.

  142. 142 jezebel282

    Mike,

    “Disgraceful.”

    I agree. There’s not much for a registered Democrat to do.

  143. 143 ronmoreau

    George,

    “I know there are many honest, decent, truthful, real Democrats and republicans.”

    Yea, to bad they don’t vote.

  144. 144 1george1

    Last night I handed # 134 to the noted people.

    I had not touched one of my databases until after 5:00 today.
    As expected, it was hit by the political operatives who deleted
    more information.

    # 134 was a GIFT of mitigation and exculpation.
    People were manipulated.

    I will no longer feel badly about what I am certain will happen to them.
    It is not like I didn’t try to warn them ….

    —-

    Yes Sudds,

    DEMONcrats – – – RepubliCONNartists
    were terms (portmanteu) I coined to make fun of those who are nominally
    Democrats and Republicans.

    I do not care if people laugh at me.
    It will not be the first or last time in my life.

    People with big egos really hate being mocked.
    My portmanteumocks have that purpose like
    FAGINomics – FAGANites – FAGINknights – MensaMORONS

    —-

    I understand and can relate to the points made by JEZE, RON, + MIKE.

    In the MAYOR vote the 3rd district was about the 4th lowest turnout.
    So if 128 people voted by 2:30, there is a good chance ABOUT 200 will
    vote at SHS? There are 10 Districts, So the total should be about 2,200?

    That would represent a turnout of about 9 % of Registered voters.

    CT has 1,999,541 ACTIVE Registered votes.
    1,155,135 are D or R and can vote in primaries
    742,980 D
    412,155 R
    844,406 I

    I think it would be GREAT if under 1,000 DEMOCRATS and under 1,000
    REPUBLICANS in STRATFORD voted for STATE PARTY POSITIONS!!!!

    When the STOCK MARKET CRASHES in SEPT / OCT and BANKS further
    abuse CREDIT CARDS and MORTGAGES, with the HEATING OIL PRICES
    and NATURAL GAS PRICES climb to record levels ….. there may be open
    season on ELECTED and APPOINTED OFFICIALS?

    The Military controls the World Prices of OIL and SET UP all the countries
    in the World and all the major businesses and corporate entities.
    – Who created the Japanese Constitution after WW II?
    – Who ran the 3 parts of Western Germany after WW II?
    – Who set up the pacific rim, after WW II?
    – As France shed colonies and England transitioned into a Common Wealth
    from an Empire, who controlled rebuilding Britain, France and elsewhere?

    By law, the Military and certain other groups are supposed to stay out of
    DOMESTIC ISSUES.

    However, other countries Military and Intelligence Communites operate
    within the USA, as well as mercinaries …. I mean private industry.

    It just boils down to who controls the system.

  145. 145 mikereynolds

    “There’s not much for a registered Democrat to do.”

    Here’s the beginning of my list….

    1. Long walk off a short pier.
    2. Play in traffic.
    3. Walk along the Metro North tracks.

  146. 146 1george1

    If people wanted to be involved, the DTC would be easier to take over
    than the RTC which votes within Districts.
    Need to control 6 Districts to control the RTC and a percent or number
    of votes.
    The DTC is simple majority rules.

    Jeze
    1 – how many Registered R + D in Stratford?
    2 – how many D voted?
    3 – how many R voted?

    It would be too late for this election.
    However, the following election will be to control the Town Council.
    Control the Town Council and you control the Town Charter.
    Control the Town Charter and you control the personnel.

  147. 147 jezebel282

    Mike,

    “Here’s the beginning of my list….

    1. Long walk off a short pier.
    2. Play in traffic.
    3. Walk along the Metro North tracks.”

    And Republicans wonder why nobody likes them except Wall Street brokers and Health Insurance executives.

  148. 148 sudds

    “As of 2:30pm only 128 people voted at Stratford High. Disgraceful.”

    Not for nothing, but it’s not exactly like the Republican ticket gave registered voters a lot to get excited about:

    Linda “how many more millions will it cost me to win?” McMahon

    Rob “I concede, oh what… I’m still on the ballot? Well then, please vote for me” Simmons

    Peter “I told you so, but you lemmings were too greedy/stupid to listen” Schiff

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    But on the plus side… at least Democrat voters proved that throwing tons of your own money at an election doesn’t gaurantee a win! Right, Ned “I’m rich, but I’m still a loser” Lamont???

  149. 149 sudds

    And the worst part about this election process is that I thought I would wake up this morning to less politcal ads (it’s not like there could have been more)… only to have my alarm go off to Linda McMahon’s voice rattling on about Blumy taking PAC contributions… UGGH… I can’t wait until the first WEDNESDAY in October!!!

  150. 150 1george1

    Sudds,
    I overheard Adam Bauer referred to Simmons on a personal
    first name basis, almost …. sweetly ?

    I am guessing they know each other from Hartford? 😉

    By staying on the ballot, it causes people to vote one way or another.
    It is one way to stir the pot, gage strength, and have excuses for the
    primary to actually have votes.
    – We have to justify the existance of the Registrars, right?
    – $ 28,000 pay and $ 28,000 in Benefits for 20 hour work weeks where
    there is only 1 election and 1 primary per year.
    > Dick Miron apparently was overworked ?? 8)

    If people could have voted to include Kelly and Miron running alone,
    in primaries, many would bet the UNDER on 100 votes …. 8)

    Many people who tell me they always vote, may skip a preference on
    that election…. How can I become a debate questioner?

    Jeze,
    Sudds was Sudds being Sudds…..
    At least when I bash political parties, I normal give credit to some.
    It was not how it read in last week’s CT POST.

    I saw Terry Backer the other day and he was so ticked he gave me the
    silent treatment…… 😉

    They hit my DATA BASE again Tuesday, after the Monday handout.
    It was the same people from the March 18 break in.
    They have been able to enlist ATT field personnel locally and phone
    people in TX. They also accessed a CABLE PHONE REP.

    This time they went after personal, financial, and business records.
    > So much for their claims about the BIGGER PICTURE.

    note # 134 about the PBS special on tapping CABLE + SATELLITE by
    ATT which has duplicate equipment in the same buildings on each
    coast, thanks to 9/11. That is according the the PBS documentary?

    – If there were terrorism concerns, I would find it unlikely the mirror
    image equipment would be in the same building.

    – After 9/11 Stratford moved internet servers across the country to
    protect against terrorism knocking out local serves for EMERGENCY
    SERVICES. Kinda wise move, but only if there was multiple redundancy
    and some servers were away from high target areas.

  151. 151 1george1

    Sudds,
    It occurs to me that your humor is wet and bubbly sarcasm
    and my humor is dry and flat sarcasm.

    What ever happened to PCS?

    Despite disagreeing on nuances related to the parking gargage, I was in
    full support, but did not see it getting done.

    When PCS posted, she had her facts.
    I hope all is well?
    Since she is intelligent, maybe she moved outta town?

  152. 152 pcsperling

    George….. I’m never far, just taking it all in. I’ve been busy with lots of other things – new job, daughter’s activities, my activities, etc. But I’m still watching it all…….

  153. 153 sudds

    “But I’m still watching it all…”

    Grrrrrr….rrrrrrowl!!!! 😉

  154. 154 1george1

    PCS,

    Thank you for the reply.
    Good luck with the new job.
    Good luck with the family and activities.

    With a new job, maybe you don’t need the PARKING GARAGE?
    Now that the Attorneys and Party leaders have all their ducks
    in a row, they were planning to finally let things happen?

    The GOOD NEWS is that the time able is set for the Developers.

    The BAD NEWS might be:
    1) The real Developers might be finally unveiled as steered, rewarding
    the local kleptocracy?
    2) That the ARMY / FEDS may not want to play on the Time Table,
    which would deny the kleptocracy, but devastate property taxes.
    A) Word is ARMY will not extend Willinger and has always known every
    thing that has been happening

    Yesterday’s NY POST Dick Morris wrote about letting the States and Towns
    go bankrupt and breaking the power of the UNIONS and CORRUPTICRACY
    of local and state party committees.

    I call businesses with 50 + employees in CT, MA, NJ, NY, etc.

    > The private businesses that size are going the way of the buffalo.
    * Off shored – Outta State – Down sized – Bought out – Shut down

    > The corporate businesses consolidated, downsized, and out source,
    often with internet buying to scale or managing?larger companies services
    and purchasing.

    > Towns and BoE in NJ (reputed to be more corrupt than CT.) have seen
    BUDGETS DROP by MILLIONS.
    That is actual DROP!!!
    In stratford they propose $ 6 million raise and then drop or save $ 1 million
    or they claim insurance would go up 50 % and get it for the real price that
    they always intended to BUY at 12 % raise ….
    1 for you
    1 for me
    2 for you
    1, 2 for me
    3 for you
    1, 2, 3 for me
    HEY GAVIN …. That’s how it works … right?

    In a presentation to Town Council a few months ago, Dave Killeen pointed
    out that about 1/2 of Stratford Home Owners were underwater.

    Studies are showing over 60 % of americans live pay check to pay check.

    People can not borrow due to home value and lack of income.
    Credit Card rates are at LOAN SHARK LEVELS.

    Tom Malloy’s Town Council, like HENRICK / GAVIN / TOM MOORE / KUBIC
    / JULIAN / ALVIN / DEMPSEY / STROOMER / FEEHAN / ALDRICH / CAMILLA
    / DECILIO / SILHAVEY / PHILIPS / COLLIER / SCHIRILLO to name a few have
    helped sunder and plunder Stratford, in my opinion ….. 10 % tax increase

    In this economy?
    In this housing marketing?
    In this drained savings?
    In this attacked portfolios?
    In this credit enviroment?
    In these closing / downsizing / underpaying ?

    Some of those people I like and are decent people who have shame.
    They do not all have a sense of shame.
    Some was simple stupidity, ignorance, and peer pressure.
    They have to live with the face in the mirror, and the neighbors, and the
    pta and schools or social events, beyond just the “COUNTRY CLUB!”

    I suspect it will NOT be GAVIN who breaks first and goes STATE’S EVIDENCE.
    But it’s gonna happen ….. And had people been more sensitive, sensible,
    and caring …… “HEY … THIS … IS …. STRATFORD!”

    The socialist think they will help create utopia, breaking the middle class.
    The military want to break the system and remake it.
    The unenlighted want to steal as much as they can, and not realize they
    will become targets of hacks, theives, vandals and desparate.

    Meanwhile those OLD people who ED HARGUS spoke for, have NO VOICE,
    NO HOPE, and NO FUTURE ….. while the schemers steal from dreamers!

    And those men and women of the greatest generation sit stoically and
    quietly with their days of vitality behind them and bewildered by all of
    the HIGHER PRICES ….. and HIGHER TAXES …..sick … sick ….sick … S A D !

  155. 155 1george1

    Inflation or Deflation? “Yes,” Says Chris Martenson,
    Who Sees ‘Stagflation’ Coming

    Posted Aug 09, 2010 07:30am EDT – YAHOO FINANCE
    by Peter Gorenstein in Investing, Recession

    The Federal Reserve is once again trying to put a floor under the U.S. economy. Worried about the threat of deflation — or as Ben Bernanke & Co. put it, “measures of underlying inflation have trended lower in recent quarters” — the central bank said Tuesday it wold begin to purchase longer-term Treasury securities.

    This second round of quantitative easing is meant to lower mortgage rates (boost the housing market) and increase demand for bank loans (grow the economy).

    Yet many reading this must be thinking: What deflation? Prices of gasoline, food, health-care, education are all getting more expensive.

    Ask Chris Martenson, inflation or deflation? The economic researcher responds, “Yes!”

    “We’re seeing inflation in some areas and deflation in others,” he tells Tech Ticker in this clip. “We have powerful deflationary forces in play right now. It’s been well balanced, so far, by what the Fed has done.”

    Martenson thinks we’re “dangerously close” to entering a stage of “stagflation” that crippled the economy and market in the 1970s. “It’s the worst of all possible worlds,” says Martenson. “(Stagflation) really squeezes the workers even harder than any other condition you can experience. Wages are weak. Job growth is weak. The main assets that the average person tends to hold like real estate – that’s going down. On the other side, we are seeing base inflation” in some commodities.

    “Stagflation,” as defined by Investopedia, is: a condition of slow economic growth and relatively high unemployment — a time of stagnation —

    — THERE IS MORE to the POST.

  156. 156 1george1

    I am unsure when this was first published in the orlando sentinel?
    I would like to know if bloggers agree or disagree?
    I mostly agree?

    The 545 People Responsible For All Of U.S. Woes

    BY Charley Reese

    (Date of publication unknown)– — – Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

    Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits? Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The president does. You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does. You and I don’t write the tax code. Congress does. You and I don’t set fiscal policy. Congress does. You and I don’t control monetary policy. The Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices – 545 human beings out of the 235 million – are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank.

    I excluded all but the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it.

    No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislation’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

    A CONFIDENCE CONSPIRACY

    Don’t you see how the con game that is played on the people by the politicians? Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of Tip O’Neill, who stood up and criticized Ronald Reagan for creating deficits.

    The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it. The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating appropriations and taxes.

    O’neill is the speaker of the House. He is the leader of the majority party. He and his fellow Democrats, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetos it, they can pass it over his veto.

    REPLACE SCOUNDRELS

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 235 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts – of incompetence and irresponsibility.

    I can’t think of a single domestic problem, from an unfair tax code to defense overruns, that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.

    When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair. If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red. If the Marines are in Lebanon, it’s because they want them in Lebanon.

    There are no insoluble government problems. Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take it.

    Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exist disembodied mystical forces like “the economy,” “inflation” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people and they alone are responsible. They and they alone have the power. They and they alone should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses – provided they have the gumption to manage their own employees.

    This article was first published by the Orlando Sentinel Star newspaper

  157. 157 1george1

    For those blog readers who believe the government is simply
    incompetent, I have known this exact cycle has existed since
    before 1986. E V E R Y T H I N G is S C R I P T E D by PLANNING
    for OPERATIONS

    ———————— FROM C. I. A. Website + Internet ———————

    The Intelligence Cycle is the process of developing raw information
    into finished intelligence for policymakers to use in decisionmaking
    and action.

    There are five steps which constitute the Intelligence Cycle.

    1. Planning and Direction

    This is management of the entire effort, from
    identifying the need for data to
    delivering an intelligence product to a consumer.

    It is the beginning and the end of the cycle–
    the beginning because
    it involves drawing up specific collection requirements and
    the end because finished intelligence,
    which supports policy decisions,
    generates new requirements.

    The whole process depends on guidance from public officials.
    Policymakers–the President, his aides,
    the National Security Council,
    and other major departments and agencies of government–
    initiate requests for intelligence.

    2. Collection

    …is the gathering of the raw information needed to produce
    finished intelligence.
    There are many sources of information including open sources
    such as
    foreign broadcasts,
    newspapers,
    periodicals,
    and books.
    (LIKE I READ)
    Open source reporting is integral to CIA’s analytical capabilities.
    There are also secret sources of information.
    CIA’s operations officers collect such information from agents abroad
    and from defectors who provide information obtainable in no other way.
    FBI (FIB) operations officers collect such information from domestic agents.

    Finally, technical collection–electronics and satellite photography–
    plays an indispensable role in modern intelligence,
    such as monitoring arms control agreements and
    providing direct support to military forces.


    3. Processing

    …involves converting the vast amount of information collected
    to a form usable by analysts through
    decryption,
    language translations,
    and data reduction.


    4. All Source Analysis and Production

    …is the conversion of basic information into finished intelligence.
    It includes integrating,
    evaluating, and
    analyzing all available data
    –which is often fragmentary and even “contradictory–”
    and preparing intelligence products.

    Analysts, who are subject-matter specialists,
    consider the information’s reliability, validity, and relevance.

    They integrate data into a coherent whole,
    put the evaluated information in context,
    and produce finished intelligence that includes
    assessments of events and judgments
    about the implications of the information for the United States.

    The CIA devotes the bulk of its resources to providing
    strategic intelligence to policymakers.

    It performs this important function by
    monitoring events,
    warning decisionmakers about threats to the United States,
    and forecasting developments.
    The subjects involved may concern different
    regions, problems, or personalities in various contexts–
    political, geographic, economic, military, scientific, or biographic.

    Current events, capabilities, and future trends are examined.

    The CIA produces numerous written reports,
    which may be brief–one page or less–or lengthy studies.

    They may involve current intelligence,
    which is of immediate importance,
    or long-range assessments.

    The Agency presents some finished intelligence in oral briefings.
    (DEEP THROAT – The FRENCH ROOM)
    The CIA also participates in the drafting and production of
    National Intelligence Estimates,
    which reflect the collective judgments of the Intelligence Community.

    (HOWEVER – ALL personnel are vetted BY D. O. D. of 100 % of the I. C.)


    5. Dissemination

    The last step, which logically feeds into the first,
    is the distribution of the finished intelligence to the consumers,
    the same policymakers whose needs initiated the intelligence requirements.

    Finished (G I G O )intelligence is hand-carried daily to the President
    and key national security advisers.

    The policymakers, the recipients of finished intelligence,
    then make decisions based on the information,
    and these decisions may lead to the levying of more requirements,
    thus triggering the Intelligence Cycle.

    (REAGAN was supposely notorious for accepting briefs as true.)

  158. 158 1george1

    Google: galbriath: the planning system
    1 page by David H Ciscel
    Jounal of economic Issues June 1984
    It is in a form I can not copy / paste.

    ECONOMICS

    ================================================

    With searing wit and incisive commentary, John Kenneth Galbraith
    redefined America’s perception of itself in The New Industrial State,
    one of his landmark works.

    The United States is no longer a free-enterprise society, Galbraith argues,
    but a structured state controlled by the largest companies.

    Advertising is the means by which these companies manage demand
    and create consumer “need” where none previously existed.

    Multinational corporations are the continuation of this power system
    on an international level.
    (CREATED through the MARSHALL PLAN – Bastardized by Trilateral Commission
    of Rockefellers’ Big Oil allies in the Intelligence, Military, & Industry)

    The goal of these companies is not the betterment of society, but
    immortality through an uninterrupted stream of earnings.

    First published in 1967, The New Industrial State continues to resonate today.

    =====================================================================

    Lecture from John K. Galbraith, “Power and the Useful Economist”

    I. General Criticisms of Current Neo-Classical Economics
    Economics is insufficiently normative. Model building has become an end
    and not a means. This is because mainstream theory has hit the point of diminishing returns on model building – what is a graduate student to do?

    If mainstream doesn’t watch out, we will evolve into simply being applied mathematicians.
    Galbraith shares these criticisms, but wants to add to them a concern over assumptions.

    He argues we are no longer dealing with general or accepted theory.
    We are simply looking at behavior and interpreting it.
    We are not successful at prediction because events lead us rather than
    the other way around.

    The problem is we have lost our ability to be useful.
    Yet, amazingly, the textbooks and courses we teach still carry the orthodoxy. Early watchdogs in this regard were the rising businesses that required we establish the principles of private property, profits, free trade, etc.,
    and that would fight against unions, government regulations, etc.
    (classical liberals).

    This censorship is, by and large, gone.
    It is replaced by the notion that scientific excellence is any belief
    or method used by people that are already there.
    So, we ignore our problems or call for simple free market solutions
    to most of them. But the problems won’t go away.

    II. The biggest flaw in neoclassical assumptions is the way in which
    they totally ignore power in economic relationships

    We assume the business firm to be a slave of the impersonal market –
    assuming away all potential power and content.
    We even assume that the state is subordinate to the wishes of the citizens,
    or at least the citizen’s acquiescence.
    The role of the firm is, therefore, to service the market.
    As such, the firm has only limited power to influence the market and
    no power to influence the state.
    Even the monopolist reacts to demand
    – monopoly power is an ability to influence price.
    The consumer still has the power to restrict that degree of influence.

    In ignoring the political world, the neoclassical economist
    ignores the real world altogether.

    In microeconomics, power is only the ability to influence price,
    as I said before.

    In macroeconomics, power is found only in the government’s ability
    to influence aggregate demand.

    Look at what we can’t explain:

    1. Economics argues that monopoly power tends towards underproduction.

    2. Yet, most agree that we tend to overproduce automobiles, chemicals,
    plastics, alcohol, tobacco, defense, and space exploration.

    3. If there are deficiencies in resource uses, they tend to occur in
    competitive industries, like in medicine, housing, local transportation, etc.

    Now, the apologists say that the over-production in some of the industries mentioned is a matter of public choice and that under production in the
    others is due to their regional monopoly powers.
    But that begs the question of why the public makes insane choices and
    why little, regional monopolies perform so much worse than their
    national big counterparts.

    Which leads us to the biggest question of all,
    “Why do we have a highly unequal development as between industries
    of great market power and industries of slight market power …
    greatly favoring the first?”

    When we apply that microeconomic question to macroeconomics,
    we are even more embarrassed.

    We have applied various versions of macro policy with it in mind that
    markets will adjust in appropriate manners.

    Yet, we have had inflation, unemployment, stagflation, etc.,
    for the past twenty years.

    We have not cured the business cycle, cured unemployment, or
    cured inflation.

    At best, we have only had small periods of relative prosperity,
    usually on our way to some new disaster.

    Now, we have come to a most disconcerting set of theories that
    state that expectations run the economy.

    Therefore, we should not engage in any macro policies at all
    – expectations will undo any policy we attempt.

    This is the extreme of, “let the market do it” types of philosophies
    – as if pure competition really existed.

    So, what are the alternatives?

    III. Let’s replace the market assumptions with the realization that
    at least half (50+%) of the economy is controlled by a planning system.

    The planning system consists of the 2000 largest corporations
    who have powers that transcend the market.
    (Were these SET UP for the needs of WW II ?)

    It seems unreasonable to think that the power of the modern
    corporation along with the associated power of large labor unions
    would be a central part of our set of economic theories were it
    not for the “vested interests” discussed earlier.

    The modern corporation has extensive control over its prices
    and its costs, and, even its ability to control (or at least influence)
    the tastes of its customer.

    They even have substantial influence over the sources of their supplies.

    ———

    —- Galbraith claimed to be a socialist. But he was a millionaire and
    friend of Mcgovern and both were friends of W F Buckley. —–

    I met them at McGovern’s Stratford Inn.
    I had use a McGovern Sept 1987 Parade Magazine article about FBI,
    CIA, + DOD violating Constitution, in my pleas to Senate and Congress
    on my trips to DC.

    And even major control over finance and their ability to attract credit.

    Finally, only a fool would fail to recognize the substantial influence
    the corporation exerts over the state, including the agencies of the state
    that are there to control the corporation itself.

    The state provides research, technically qualified people, emergency
    financial support, etc.

    The state also provides an artificial market when others can’t be found.

    We tax the population to buy MX missiles.

    The two organizations even regularly exchange executive personnel.

    Finally, the corporation exerts power over all in terms of its legitimacy
    and respectability.

    Those that guide the corporation are among the most influential
    and prestigious people in the nation.
    They exert more influence than congress people, vice-presidents,
    and many suspect, even the president. They are the establishment.

    The corporation’s interest is in power.
    Not to the exclusion of profits.
    But power itself assures the autonomy of management to seek profits.

    They also provide management with the ability to pursue their most
    important goal of growth.

    That the corporation really chooses profits over influence and growth
    is believed by none – but it is the cornerstone of neoclassical theory.


    Recognize that there are, at the same time, many small firms that are
    subject to the market. There, profit maximization is necessary for survival.

    These are not just pure competitors.
    They run the full range of possibilities described by the neoclassical system.
    They represent the neoclassical model at work!
    We have these two systems existing side by side.

    One is subject to the powers of the market.
    The other has power unto itself that extends into every facet of our lives.
    (Re-read EISENHOWER’S Warning of unwarranted influence in to EVERY home,
    EVERY business, AND every GOVERNMENT AGENGY / DEPT / LEVEL.)

    The coexistence of these two should be the subject of our investigations.


    IV. This should dissuade us from our attempts to separate politics
    and economics.

    The modern corporation is much like the state itself.
    This is not to say that economics should become a part of political science.
    But that politics should become a part of economics.
    What difference does this make?
    It eliminates the “invisible hand.”

    No longer are the interests of the firm and the community always in harmony.

    Divergence of interests predominate in predictable ways:

    Growth is the principal goal of the planning system.
    This is the source of overproduction in the industries mentioned before. Neoclassical theory says they should expand even more.

    Don’t forget, we then talk about socializing the competitive sector
    in housing, medicine, transportation, etc.

    When we introduce power into this equation, we clean up the seeming contradiction in the micro sphere.


    V. In the macro sphere, a similar improvement is found.

    Increases in costs are passed forward to the consumer.

    The neoclassical model doesn’t work because the corporation
    holds power over the consumer.

    Anti-inflationary policy has to be quite severe to offset this.
    We permit these policies because they do not hit the system itself.

    Monetary policy only hits those that don’t have control over credit.

    Highways, defense, industrial research, etc., aren’t hit by budget cuts
    because they have a higher purpose.

    Taxes will be cut for investment and raised for persons.

    Any really new taxes for corporations are, again, passed on to the consumer.

    If things get too out of control, costs will be cut, but at the expense of the resource owners, not the planning system itself.

    Other effects are as follows:

    1. Systematic differences in income between the planning
    and the market system.

    2. Resource immobility between these systems so that
    rates of return are not equalized.

    3. This leads to differing wage rates between the two systems
    in favor of the planning system.

    4. Policies to help out, like minimum wage legislation, are
    hot topics in the market system.
    They are of little interest in the planning system.

    5. The environmental problems we face are not due to externalities,
    they are due to the single minded pursuit of growth.

    Growth will generally win over environmental concerns.
    We will generally use the power of persuasion to discuss
    environmental problems, rather than spend the same
    resources on cleaning the environment.

    Finally, if the consumer is the ultimate source of authority, his
    or her abuse is an occasional fault.

    There can be no fundamental disagreement between consumer
    and the system.

    But if the producing firm has comprehensive power,
    conflict becomes inevitable.

    Technology is then subordinate to consumer persuasion.

    Products are changed, not to make them better, but to make them
    new and to create new markets.

    “Can it be sold?” is much more important than “Is it better?”.


    VI. The real conclusion deals with the state

    When we make power politics a part of our system, we can’t escape the contradictory character of the modern state.

    The state is the prime object of economic power.

    Yet, restrictions against abuse are to come from the state.
    The fox is the manager of the coop.

    The greatest question then becomes,
    “Can we free the state from the control of the planning system?”

    No one knows the answer.

    The first step would be to realize that the planning system exerts
    this power and that they are not, in fact, slaves to the market

  159. 159 1george1

    Battle Looms Over Huge Costs of Public Pensions
    NY TIMES On Saturday August 7, 2010, 12:50 am EDT

    There’s a class war coming to the world of government pensions.

    The haves are retirees who were once state or municipal workers.
    Their seemingly guaranteed and ever-escalating monthly pension
    benefits are breaking budgets nationwide.

    The have-nots are taxpayers who don’t have generous pensions.
    Their 401(k)s or individual retirement accounts have taken a real
    beating in recent years and are not guaranteed.

    And soon, many of those people will be paying higher taxes or
    getting fewer state services as their states put more money aside
    to cover those pension checks.

    At stake is at least $1 trillion.
    That’s trillion, with a “t,” as in titanic and terrifying.

    The figure comes from a study by the Pew Center on the States
    that came out in February. Pew estimated a $1 trillion gap as of
    fiscal 2008 between what states had promised workers in the way
    of retiree pension, health care and other benefits and the money
    they currently had to pay for it all. And some economists say that
    Pew is too conservative and the problem is two or three times as large.

    So a question of extraordinary financial, political, legal and moral
    complexity emerges, something that every one of us will be taking
    into town meetings and voting booths for years to come:
    Given how wrong past pension projections were,
    who should pay to fill the 13-figure financing gap?

    Consider what’s going on in Colorado
    — and what is likely to unfold in other states and
    municipalities around the country.

    THERE IS MUCH MORE TO THIS ARTICLE!

  160. 160 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    ALMOST Everything about INSURANCE RATES are LIES created for
    POLITICAL REASON at the NATIONAL LEVELS, with KITED COSTS.

    There will be a CLASS WAR where the PRIVATE SECTOR is paying for
    PUBLIC SECTOR PENSIONS and HEALTH CARE, according to LAST
    Saturday Wall Street Journal or NY Times.

    I believe it was an INTENTIONAL TRAP.

    Portia, I agree with you about good and bad Democrats and Republicans.

    Please google:
    “The Invisible Gorilla”
    “Inattential Blindness”
    “Conceptional Blindness”

    Because we all have priorities and focus on certain things, there is much
    that we miss that are (hiding) in plain sight.

    Please google: Orwell 1984
    About 20 % down to the right of writing about winston smth is a pyramid
    relating to OCEANIA SOCIETY.

    TOP of the PYRAMID = BIG BROTHER
    2 % of population = INNER PARTY
    13 % of population = OUTER PARTY
    85 % of population = Proles or “P” roles, compare to Marx proletariat

    Please investigate: 2010 USA Wealth Distribution: Looks like OCEANIA

    UCSC.EDU Chart as of 2007, before STOCK MARKET CRASH

    Top 1 % = 43 % of USA Financial Wealth

    2% – 5% = 29 % of USA Financial Wealth

    6%- 10% = 11 %

    11% – 20% = 19 %

    80% of USA = 7 % of Financial Wealth

    ====

    In OCEANIA, the MAGNA CARTA created LORDS to be PARTNERS to KING.

    1900 BRITAIN a tiny island conquored 25 % of
    The World Land Mass and Peoples, excluding USA, RUSSIA, CHINA , and
    South / Central America and most of Africa / Asia.
    After WW I, England / France eliminated Turkey and created Protectorate
    for much of the Mid East. Russia had Lenin.
    China’s last Emperor happened about then.
    India was the first country / subcontinent conquered by private company
    the British East India, who with Dutch East india made huge fortunes by
    exporting DRUGS into CHINA, which the British EMPIRE went to WAR with
    CHINA to ALLOW.

    EACH 750 of the DOW = $ 1 TRILLION
    A 7,000 DOW = $ 10 TRILLION
    A 10,500 DOW = $ 15 TRILLION
    Then there are all of the other financial Markets

    My studies indicate the transfer of Wealth due to OIL / GAS / COAL have
    allowed the TAKE over of most of the USA PUBLICLY TRADED that were NOT
    already held by the Rockefeller Standard Oil FOUNDATIONS.

    1987 I mathematically proved the total OIL PRICES (just oil) from OPEC
    CREATIONS 9/11/1960 to 9/1987 was about $ 10 Trillion or about the
    TOTAL VALUE of just the DOW.
    1960 OIL was $ 2 barrel.
    I used average of $ 25 barrel x 40 mm bbl day OR $ 20 barrel x 50 mm bbl.
    The math works to $ 9.861 Trillion

    They only have to control just over 50 % of stock and can do so by over
    25 institutions / foundations holding 2 % average. Then ADD.
    > The $ 3/4 Trillion PAY OFF to WALL STREET rank via T.A.R.P.
    > The $ 3/4 Trillion PAY OFF to GM / UNIONS by Stimulus Package

    What has happened to the USA is analogous to what happened due to
    the KEATING 5, where many people were wiped out….

    OCEANIA double crosses everyone!
    It is their nature.

    OCEANIA controls the USA + RUSSIA and respective allies.
    PROOF?
    Russia caused Berlin Blockade = made allie airforces into supply angels,
    when they had FIRE BOMBS hundreds of German cities.

    Russia walked out of the UN security council allowing UN to defend South
    Korea, using / building up / protecting JAPAN as STAGING area.

    Russia pipeline thru East Europe to Germany / West Europe = partners

    9/11 cause USA to kill former allies, who were russia enemies in Afghan.

    9/11 cause invasion of IRAQ to take their OIL off SPOT MARKET.
    OIL 12/1998 was $ 12.58 Barrel
    OIL 6/2008 peaked $ 147 Barrel
    OIL averaged about $ 80 Barrel or twice high under REAGAN / BUSH
    Check price of OIL / GAS / COAL when Rockefeller, Bush, Cheney
    OILMEN in White House?
    I am sure their Allies killed JFK, MLK, RFK = AGAINST Vietnam War.

    KNAPP Commission proved police, judges were corrupt on mafia payroll
    and that NY Governor ROCKEFELLER’s crew took over MAFIA cash cows.

    Post Watergate CHURCH COMMITTEE proved CIA + DOD + FBI routinely
    violated CONSTITUTION, NATIONAL LAW, and INTERNATIONAL LAW.

    The INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY needs a COMPLETELY CORRUPT SYSTEM
    where police, judges, lawyers, politicians violate oaths and become the
    criminal class.

    When they attack the mafia, politicians, and unions and scapegoat them …..

  161. 161 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    Laurence Devlin 6/18/22 – 12/6/2008 CIA field officer.
    Station Chief Congo Jan 1961.

    James O’Sullivan was on the reconstituted Stratford Ethics
    Commission, who attended the War College and was State
    Department assignee in the Congo in the 1960s,according to
    his resume, which I had reviewed.
    He is now very old or maybe dead?

    State Department embassies work with and are at least partially
    Staffed by C. I. A. Field and HQ.

    Town Councilor Robert Blake defeated Sylhavey and is dead.
    He had worked directly for David Rockefeller @ Chase Bank
    (If he told me the truth?)
    So weird it could be true, is that David Rockefeller who was the
    figurehead creator of the TriLateral Commission, claimed to think
    of himself as …….. MIDDLE CLASS…..

  162. 162 jezebel282

    From 1George1:

    WIKIPEDIA Dean Devlin supported Mobutu Sese Seko

    anagram view of name
    obtuse
    oss
    uk
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  163. 163 1george1

    I find it interest the approximation of Berchem’s Milford and Westport
    offices to the Milford and Westport Masonic Grand Lodges / Halls.

    59 Broad St, Milford Masonic
    75 Broad St, Milford BMD

    210 Post Road East, Westport Mason Hall
    27 Imperial Avenue, Westport BMD

    INTERESTING town attorney Tim Bishop has offices in Milford,
    Stratford Station House Sq. and Westport.

    Tom Moore told me of his mason affiliation and passing of his dad.
    I believe Gavin is a Mason.
    There has been a diversity of memberships among elected positions.

    Ray Voccola was a member of the Knights of Columbus

    ex-Mayor Hugh Curran was a member of the Hibernians.
    Fairfield holds the Irish club, which my uncle had been a member.
    He was also a member of the Elks and some others.
    I never was a club joined. I read thier exclusionary rules and bylaws.

    The Shriners Hall telecast in the 1980s included Bono making a certain
    reference. I had to smile as a short time later, most of them realized
    they were mostly DRUG ADDICTS ….

    I have also seen various Mafia, FBI-Justice, and other clubs….

    I witnessed Orangemen references and the Green references.

    I witnessed surprize by Military and Intelligence.

    I have witness corruptions of Unions and Managers of multiple ethnic
    and religeous back grounds.

    It was confusing, because I could NOT pin down just one group or one
    political party or one defining situation, as to who were involved?
    Attending DTC + RTC meetings yielded surprizing results.

    An old priest at Fairfield Univeristy cried like a baby and could not tell
    me what he wanted to say.

    Certain Episcopalians, Methodists, Baptists, Mormons, Lutherans, Catholics,
    Jews (various), Masons, Shriners, and more have all gone against core beliefs.

    Each thinks theirs is the group in control.

    What L E V E R A G E do any of you have, if BIG OIL + WAR MANUFACTURERS
    decide to TARGET you, instead of me?

    Do you actually believe Y O U will NOT be double crossed and your savings
    wiped out electronically, when they WANT YOU for your turn in the BARREL?

    While some have mocked me and my conspiracy theories, I have watched
    as the mansters (man-monsters) city logs float down the river Stix.

    So much ignorance and lack of empathy and cowardly use of schadenfreude
    and sadism, reading and watching and FEARING Y O U … S H A L L .. B E .. NEXT!

    Ask NOT for whom the Bell Tolls ….

    Review martin niemuller poem
    Every past society

  164. 164 1george1

    Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who was forced to retire in July after
    an embarrassing Rolling Stone article quoted him and his staff
    making disparaging remarks about top White House officials, is
    taking a job at Yale, POLITICO has learned.

    McChrystal will teach grad students a course in leadership at the
    Jackson Institute for Global Affairs in New Haven, which is opening
    this fall.
    He’ll be in good company: McChrystal will join John Negroponte,
    the former U.S. ambassador and former deputy secretary of state,
    as well as former Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo at the institute.

    McChrystal had been considering a number of opportunities from a
    wide range of places, from large corporations to nongovernmental
    organizations and even some wounded warrior groups seeking his
    leadership, sources said.
    And he will undoubtedly have a future on the speaker’s circuit.

    But he’s taking a different tack, at least for now, in agreeing to be a
    lecturer at an Ivy League school such as Yale, which seems as far away
    from the world McChrystal has known as a killing Special Forces operator.

    I WOULD LOVE TO ASK HIM, in person, ABOUT PAT TILLMAN’S MURDER
    and the ASSAULT on the AMERICAN PEOPLES’ ECONOMY by the INTELLIGENCE
    COMMUNITY.

  165. 165 jezebel282

    From George:

    to have reverse economics, whereas
    the “STATE” and “FEDS” depended on more and more ex-Mafia cash cows.

    Is it a reach as an argument:

    Insurance = form of Protection Racket
    Lotto / Lottery = Numbers Racket
    Jai alai / Dog-Horse race / Simulcast = Book Making
    Boxing / MMA-UFC = Assault
    Casino = Gambling or in CT Gample – ing?
    Controlled Substance = Forbidden Fruit, State hidden distribution
    Tobacco = More addictive than most illegal drugs
    Massage Parlor = Zoning Prostitution
    Strip Joints = Liquor Commission Prostitution
    Liquor Commission = Licensed Prohibition
    Bar Association = Intellectual Prostitution
    Alcohol + Drugs = Mind Waste > Opiating Masses / permanent underclass
    DCF = Fagin-ism, mostly caused my ABUSE of Alcohol + Drugs
    WAR = Murder
    Weapons Trade = Murder enablement
    COCAINE TRAFFIC = Smuggling (Where could cocaine grow in new england?)

    —-

    Steve JOBS – Was he selected and boosted for his TAG NAME, that his
    innovations are the FUTURE ECONOMY

    Bill + Robert GATES – Were they selected and boosted for thier TAG
    NAMES, that thier positions held key to accessing ALL USA INTELLIGENCE?
    > Bill GATES, Microsoft has so many holes / patches that they can program
    openings within the operation system, that Peeping Toms of Intelligence
    can secretly access data of most less sophisticated companies.
    > Robert GATES, as former CIA DIRECTOR had access to CENTRAL INFO.
    DOD HEAD is a promotion, since DOD controls personnel in ALL of the 16
    Intelligence Communities, and includes DARPA, creator of the Internet
    and the cutting edge of Research.

    WARREN BUFFET – Define a WARREN and a BUFFET. He, GATES, and others
    have people coming to them throwing ideas and inside information.
    > His childhood friend owns LEVEL 3 which bought unused gas pipelines
    when oil / gas was low, and has 60 % of all USA CABLE going through it.
    > Between Microsoft and government programmers accessing that info
    as well as transatlantic and transpacific cables and satellite communications,
    the resources of both GATES and BUFFET combined with CIA PRIVATEERS
    could easily access all necessary information to take over WALL STREET….

    If certain OIL COMPANIES could run profitably Dec 1998 at $ 12.58 bbl,
    how much profit / extra capital would they generate averaging $ 80 bbl,
    with a high of $ 147 bbl
    (June 2008 or $ 100 more than 1982 Reagan-Bush Peak price)

    The Stock Market is controlled by people controlling 51 %, and according
    to the book the Rockefeller Syndrome, many Foundations, Institutions, &
    Shell or Holding companies can hold 2 % or under, that only when they are
    combined, can people be shown the Stock is controlled.

    Portia, your references to exceptional Academia and respective points
    or philosophies are spot on, especially Marx / Engles as critics.
    However the BIG MONEY CONTROLLERS of PRODUCTION were the people
    Bourgeoise were best positioned to USE MARX + ENGELE observations.
    (In sociology and political science, bourgeoisie (adjective: bourgeois)
    describes a range of groups across history.
    In the Western world, between the late 18th century to now, the
    bourgeoisie is a social class characterized by their ownership of
    capital and their related culture.

    By 1900, the sun never set on the British Empire
    It included 25% of the World Land Mass and Population.
    It did NOT include Western or Eastern Europe, the USA, the middle east,
    most of south or central America, nor much of Africa.

    Before / During WW I, Queen Victoria grandson (cousins) were
    England King George V
    Germany Kaiser Wilhelm
    Russia Czar Nicholas

    After WW I TURKEY / OTTOMAN was defeated.
    The MIDEST and BALKLANDS had been under Turkish control.
    Before WW I – the TURKS had lost much to French + British.
    After WW I – See Treaties of Versailles, Sevres, Lausanne & Sanremo.
    Further Tripartite Agreement confirmed Britain’s Oil + Commercial
    concessions of German and Ottoman Empires.

    After WW I the League of Nations was created.
    The land for the UN was given by the Rockefellers.
    50 years prior, by 1873-1880, the Rockefellers Standard Oil Trust
    controlled 100 % of USA OIL refining.

    After WW II – ALL EUROPEAN COLONIAL COUNTRIES were conquored
    except Britain which devolved itself into a COMMON WEALTH.
    4 – USA States are also COMMON WEALTHS.

    1960 Catholic President elected. 100 years prior, US civil war was fought.
    The South could not match the flood of immigrants fight for the North.
    IRISH were called NIGGERS of EUROPE.
    Many different Groups populated the colonial USA, dominated by Masons,
    in the North and the South. I have always admired Mason principles.
    > Nov 1963 JFK was killed almost on anniversary of Gettysburg Address.
    > MLK Jr. was murdered on the 1 year anniversary of speaking against the
    expansion of War in Vietnam.
    > RFK was against the expansion of War in Vietnam.

    1973 David Rockefeller was titular head of Trilateral Commission.
    Most Administrations have been dominated by members of the Trilateral
    Commission, Council on Foreign Affairs, IVY Leagues, War college, colleges
    and Universities of the Robber Barons.
    Personally – I do not care who runs the USA, as long as they ACT under
    the CONSTITUTION, and LEGAL LAWS and REGULATIONS of the USA!!!
    I do care about un-necessary WAR + CRIME, especially killing innocent and
    unsuspecting people, just trying to have decent lives.

    11 members (out of 87 USA Members) appointed by Obama in Jan 2009

    FROM: http://www.augustreview.com
    Is this a mere coincidence or is it a continuation of dominance
    over the Executive Branch since 1976? (For important background,
    read The Trilateral Commission: Usurping Sovereignty.)

    •Secretary of Treasury, Tim Geithner
    •Ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice
    •National Security Advisor, Gen. James L. Jones

    •Deputy National Security Advisor, Thomas Donilon
    •Chairman, Economic Recovery Committee, Paul Volker
    •Director of National Intelligence, Admiral Dennis C. Blair
    •Assistant Secretary of State, Asia & Pacific, Kurt M. Campbell
    •Deputy Secretary of State, James Steinberg
    •State Department, Special Envoy, Richard Haass

    •State Department, Special Envoy, Dennis Ross
    •State Department, Special Envoy, Richard Holbrooke

    There are many other incidental links to the Trilateral Commission, for instance,

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is married to Commission member William Jefferson Clinton.

    Geithner’s informal group of advisors include E. Gerald Corrigan, Paul Volker, Alan Greenspan and Peter G. Peterson, among others. His first job after college was with Henry Kissinger at Kissinger Associates.

    Brent Scowcroft has been an unofficial advisor to Obama and was mentor to Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

    Robert Zoelick is currently president of the World Bank

    Laurence Summers, White House Economic Advisor, was mentored by former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin during the Clinton administration.

    There are many other such links, but these are enough for you to get the idea of what’s going on here.

    Analyze the positions
    Notice that five of the Trilateral appointees involve the State Department, where foreign policy is created and implemented. Hillary Clinton is certainly in line with these policies because her husband, Bill Clinton, is also a member.

    What is more important than economic recovery? Paul Volker is the answer.

    What is more important than national intelligence? Gen. James Jones, Thomas Donilon and Adm. Dennis Blair hold the top three positions.

    What is more important than the Treasury and the saving of our financial system? Timothy Geithner says he has the answers.

    The State Department is virtually dominated by Trilaterals: Kurt Campbell, James Steinberg, Richard Haass, Dennis Ross and Richard Holbrooke.

    This leaves Susan Rice, Ambassador to the United Nations. The U.N. is the chosen instrument for ultimate global governance. Rice will help to subvert the U.S. into the U.N. umbrella of vassal states.

    Conflict of interest … IT GOES ON.

    =======

    I have NO IDEA who the true good guys and bad guys are?

    I do know that throughout HISTORY people / peoples are pitted against
    each other in divide and conquor.

    HISTORY is filled with LIES and partial TRUTHS.

    > MARX + ENGELS – > Bourgeoise dominate / use Proletariate like farmed,
    ranched, fish, hunted, gathered foods for wealth)
    > gEORge oRwell 1984 > INner Party 2% – Outer Party 13% – Proles 85%
    IN = IESUS NAZARETH ner = NOT / ROYALTY – Outer = Bureacracy/Military
    P is CHRIST Symbol / role = like in CHEV ROLE ‘T”
    Presently 5 % control 70% USA Wealth = 80% control 7% USA Wealth
    > H. G. WELLS call MORLOCKS feeding on ELOI (Human Cattle – Chattel)
    More = Utopia / Locke = Social Contract
    > 1961 EISENHOWER (IRON CRAFTSMAN / WORKER) Farewell warning
    Military Industrial (Congress) Complex speach UNWARRANTED INFLUENCE
    Scientific Technological Elite CONTROL PUBLIC OPINION
    > JK GALBRAITH 1973 ECONOMICS and the PUBLIC PURPOSE (same year as
    the TRILATERAL COMMISSION) Tchnostructure / the Planning System /
    Emancipation of belief > 2000-3000 largest companies control the world
    (from WW II ? / Many related to Rockefeller partners?) and can control
    their own destiny
    > 1987 iran contra – my analysis about OIL / GAS control – buy DJIA
    Oct movie Wall Street, just prior to Stock Market crash.
    Michael Douglas was star of that Wall Street movie and one to be released
    Sept 24 2010, Oliver Stone with Carey Mulligan
    (carey was Bruce Morrison lying aid who cost USPS career)
    Trump + Douglas in both movies.

    Michael Douglas produced “3 mile island” which together with Chernobyl
    (CHER NOBLES = Cher=Love in French or French Nobility) creates a scare
    about NUCLEAR ENERGY, which benefits OIL PRICING (Natural GAS / COAL)
    of BIG OIL + RUSSIA.

    Many americans are under water on Homes and Credit Cards in large part
    to OIL / GAS HEAT and automobile cost going up 500%
    I paid 50 – 60 cents gallon Oil Heat 1998 – It was $ 2.40 this month, up from
    $ 1.80 – 2 years ago.
    I know many people paying usury credit card rates of 25% vs 5 % – 4 years
    ago.

    Michael Douglas got married to his present wife on my birthdate.
    I doubt he has any clue about me?
    However there are some people who take information and get others
    to “ACT” in SCRIPTED situations, where certain names and dates can be
    easily manipulated to happen … including certain addresses and certain
    Movies or other situations?

    I note a character in WALL STREET 2 is named Di Sapio, who is a DA.
    Carmine DeSapio was former TAMMANY HALL GRAND SACHEM who helped
    make AVERILL HARRIMAN D-NY Governor + NELSON ROCKEFELLER R-NY

    Anyway, Portia …. If many names and places and things in History are
    phony … then while your information is accurate as far as it goes, some
    of your projected may be in error?

    Then again, I could be wholley or partially incorrect?

  166. 166 jezebel282

    From George:

    GEORGE from INTERNET to counterpoint PORTIA’S REFERENCES:
    David Ricardo (19 April 1772 – 11 September 1823) was an English
    political economist, often credited with systematising economics.
    Milton Friedman (July 31, 1912 – November 16, 2006) American economist, statistician, and a recipienT: Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics
    Frederick Douglass was an American social reformer, orator, writer and
    statesman

    INTERNET; Voodoo economics is a derogatory term used to describe
    the economic process known as supply-side economics.
    The term was used by then-presidential candidate George Herbert
    Walker Bush, in his fight against Ronald Reagan for the Republican
    nomination in 1980. Voodoo economics is a complicated system that
    uses tax cuts as incentives to saving and increasing labor.

    INTERNET; Supply-side economics focus on increasing the
    supply of goods and services.

    DRUGS
    ALCOHOL
    TOBACCO
    FIREARMS

    INTERNET; According to some economists, by increasing supply,
    you will increase demand.

    CONVERSELY – TAKE IRAQ OIL OFF THE SPOT MARKET BY INVADING
    IT (Plot theme 1970’s movie THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR) and YOU
    INCREASE PRICE, BY LIMITING SUPPLY

    This may seem contradictory, but it is often true that a market
    flooded with products will induce lower prices for the consumers,
    as companies compete for business.

    CHINA PASSED JAPAN AS # 2 WORLD ECONOMY.
    CHEAP PRICES and WALMART as # 1 CUSTOMER for DISTRIBUTION
    Analogous to PRICE PENETRATION used to help build Germany / Japan.
    A friend learn QUALITY CONTROL from DR. DEMING, who turned around
    quality in JAPAN

    WW II USA ENEMY GERMANY # 2 + JAPAN # 3 WORLD ECONOMY
    COLD WAR ENEMY CHINA # 2 + RUSSIA about # 8 WORLD ECONOMY

    Shucks these are just Macro economic GEO POLITICAL coincidences?

    USA + BRITAIN + FRANCE bribed RUSSIA + CHINA the same way the
    DTC + RTC bribe POLICE, FIRE, PW, EDUCATION.
    People in government care more about their pensions + health care
    than they care about AMERICA and AMERICAN

    SHAKESPEARE: What is HECUBA to me & I to HECABE?

    INTERNET; Voodoo economics largely revolved around the lowering
    of taxes to encourage a higher rate of supply.

    WIKIPEDIA:
    Louisiana Voodoo, also known as New Orleans Voodoo, describes
    a set of “underground religious practices” which originated from the
    traditions of the African diaspora.
    Their knowledge of herbs, poisons, and the ritual creation of charms
    and amulets, intended to protect oneself or harm others, became key
    elements of Louisiana Voodoo.

    While GHW BUSH was purportedly attacking REAGAN, he was making a
    CYNICAL COMMENTARY on the 1970s – 1980s ECONOMIC ENGINES taking
    over USA POLI – SCI.

    SO VIETNAM WAR was economic stimulus to similar companies who benefitted
    from the MARSHALL PLAN WARS.

    OIL profit margins always increase in time of War, since Military runs on diesel

    DRUGS HIT from 1967 in a MASSIVE CULTURAL INVASION.
    The 1950s ALCOHOLISM was the ISSUE.
    POT actually mellowed the BABY BOOMERS.
    The BIG MONEY of COCAINE to be able to take over politics really moved
    from about 1970.

    The USA Government FED on the AMERICAN PEOPLE without remorse or
    concern.

    BALZAK: ALL GREAT FORTUNES come from GREAT CRIMES

    CLAUSEWITZ: WAR is just POLITICS, by another means.

    Yakoff Smirnoff: CAPITALISM is EXPLOITATION of MAN, BY MAN
    In COMMUNISM, it is the OTHER WAY AROUND!

    MARX: In CAPITALISM, they SOW the SEEDS of their own DISTRUCTION.

    SUN TSU: The academie of skill in WAR is to take ALL of the ENEMY
    INTACT. To destroy is wasteful and not good.

  167. 167 1george1

    That above was a direct response to the bloggers in that string.

  168. 168 jezebel282

    George,

    “That above was a direct response to the bloggers in that string.”

    And yet it was moved here. Go figure.

  169. 169 1george1

    tsk. tsk.

  170. 170 jezebel282

    From George:

    Many Jewish actors play non Jewish roles.
    Charleton Heston is protestant and played Moses.
    Many Shakespearean actors played Jews, or other roles.

    Do you know for an absolute certainty that no ancestor
    of mine was Jewish?

    I do not go to Church, however I adhere to the 10 commandments
    as a base philosophy more than many Catholics, Jews, Christians,
    and Masons (reputedly ally themselves with Solomon’s temple)

    The Biblical story of Jewish people being delivered from slavery is
    something many readers of the Old Testament relate to.
    Some believe the Bible – Torah are literal word.
    Some believe they are allegorical.

    Why many Jewish have railed at the depiction of the Jew Shylock
    as a negative stereo type, they overlook the wisdom and role of
    Shylock’s daughter Portia, as a heroine:

    I note no writing about … “the quality of mercy … is not strained.”
    It was the part for the Jewess Portia, daughter of Shylock
    and Portia1776 was my allegorical reference for the counterpoint.

    However, some people write about the EMS and people who could die,
    yet choose to be obdurate about other people who DID DIE!

    Shakespeare character was Hecuba or Hecabe, mother of 22 children
    and many / most died in the Trojan War.
    Hecuba was a woman of great grief.
    Other people did not empathize with Hecuba.
    > She was outside their circle.
    > I am outside the circle of many viewers / bloggers.

    Hecuba : Shakespearean audience :: George family : Blog readers

    Hence
    Shakespeare: What is Hecuba (family) to me and me to Hecuba ?

    Analogy
    Blog viewer: What is George (family to me and me to George (family)?

    It is reputed that Masons and readers of Bible and Torah learn
    from allegorical stories, analogies, and other intellectualizing.

    However, like the theme of “The Invisible Gorilla”
    The focus causes inattentional or conceptual blindness.
    Especially if a reader is IGNORANT (not stupid) of the reference point.

    If a person accepts the 10 Commandments as a basic tennant of life,
    which is supposedly the Alpha of Judaism, could not or should not
    that person be accepted as a kindred spirit of Jewishness?

    There are also many different accepted practices of being Jewish
    in Israel and elsewhere?

    Sephardic are Ladino, while Ashkinazim are not. (am I wrong)
    Some Jewish practice as catholic or others religions, while maintaining
    Jewish practices.


    George,

    “If I am cut ….
    do I not bleed?”

    Funny…you don’t look Jewish.

    I have known Jewish who were Pale or Black or Brown or Yellow or.
    I have known Jewish tall or short or in between;
    fat or skinny or in between;
    male or female or gay/lesbian;
    kind or cruel or in between;
    conservative or orthodox or liberal or progressive;

    Jeze, If I was a Jew, what would I look like?
    and if I am not a Jew or Mason or Hibernian or Shriner or K of C or
    Mafia or Police or whatever …. how can people look themselves in
    the mirror treating my people as slaughter house targets to be
    “Book of Job-like” reifications?

    Have I ever posted or promoted violence as my answer? NO
    Have I warned it will come?

    Santayana: Those who forget History are doomer to repeat it.

    In my e-mails with Sylvia, she had family who died in the Holocaust.
    Sylvia wrote to me that there were Jews that helped set up Hitler.
    > I have posted how people manipulating symbols can manipulate other
    people into believing they are allies and not going to make them targets.

    Sometimes people are so involved in their beliefs, they do not see the
    real dangers that really do exist?
    Even paranoid people have real enemies…

  171. 171 1george1

    I am not holding my breath for Jeze to answer my bait.
    Jeze is the best battler, but selective and prejudiced.
    everyone has Prejudices.

    Gavin makes selective appearances.
    Gavin makes very, very slective arguments and there are some
    places he NEVER GOES, like when he was on the council.

    Phin gets props for honest argument.

    Portia is new and could be a fun debate.

    Doug’s limited and focused posts are completely understandable.

    Sudds frothy comments draw smirks to LOL, and when he chooses
    to be serious, he ranges from lucid to rediculous, and probably
    why he claims he voted for me …. 🙂

    I was glad to read PCS pop in and wish her well.

    I was surprized Chris did not comment about shakespeare event.

    Ron limits his lines. when he chooses to post, he can be salient,
    yet when he posts about the Republicans, I can not help but
    feel he sometimes has one eye on not stepping on certain toes!

    Would love it if Phyllis and Star popped in.

    Kane and Cyclops seemed to fall into back ground.

    Mike R really improved posts from original, including touching posts
    about his son and comments about Mike’s golf.

    Dave Mooney and Bonney and Laura choose not to play, when they
    were targets of rebuttals. If you truly believe ….

    Mayor 2013 appears to have gone AWOL? I hope to a nice vacation.

    Matt would pop in occasionally, but I understand he is sick from the
    long days at the theater.

    Last year or maybe it was year before, Bob Camillo left me a voice mail
    thanking me for praising his efforts on Booth Park and other things.
    In limited dealings with Mr. Camillo he would be straight forward in his
    positions. We can agree and disagree on various political issues,
    However, I respect people speaking their position, especially in person,
    or in that case via phone.
    Ray V would look me in the eye and answer my question(s) in very few
    words. I have been stunned at some who admired and some detractors.
    In my dealings, he had his positions. I respect that right.
    His people were NOT nearly as greedy as Mirons/Burturlas, in my opinion.
    Stratford has always had unique politics.

    It got worse when Bridgeport took over Stratford.
    The only thing left is the name change. they changed the ZIP CODE to
    2 ZIP CODES shared by Bridgeport, in 1998, year of the:

    PREFERRED VENDER on AVCO
    PENSION BOND, which became s SCANDAL and BRIBERY – PONZI SCHEME.

    Whatever happened to Pearly Whites, On Target, FOS, Jon, and Jimmy’s
    aliases?

    Readers comment to me that they are surprised about some non
    responses, and much credibility has been lost by people they had
    pinned beliefs on.

  172. 172 jezebel282

    George,

    “Jeze is the best battler, but selective and prejudiced.”

    Thank you. But one does has to be selective in choosing which of your thousands of disconnected thoughts to respond to. In one post, that is.

  173. 173 portia1776

    George, right play but wrong character. Jessica, Shylock’s daughter, was Jewish. Portia, though not Jewish, was a heroine for taking on the role of judge in the trial. Shakespeare is rightly considered “Capitalism’s Poet Laureate,” not surprising given that he was one of the most enlightened people of his or any time. While against the grain of superficial and Marxist readings of the play, The Merchant of Venice was neither anti-Semitic or anti-capitalist.

    Federick Turner, author of “Shakespeare’s Twenty-First Century Economics: The Morality of Love and Money,” sets the record straight:

    “Shylock is punished at the end for not taking the exorbitant interest he has been offered on his bond, but insisting on the worthless pledge of the pound of flesh. In other words, Shakespeare’s anti-business critics are completely blind to the implication that Shakespeare is the very opposite of the economic anti-Semite, that he regards the spread of ‘use’ or interest as a creative and valuable, if not very exalted, form of real progress. Shakespeare himself was a large investor in bonds and other interest-bearing securities. His famous words ‘neither a borrower nor a lender be’ are put in the mouth of the ‘wretched, rash, intruding fool’ Polonius, the time-pleasing state bureaucrat in Hamlet who so richly deserves his rather nasty fate, stabbed while spying on a private conversation.”

    A power-packed paragraph from the book itself:

    Karl Marx believed that “what we buy… when we legally take possession of an object, is the human labor that has gone into its acquisition or construction. An employer owns the labor of an employee if there has been a contractual exchange of wages for work. In what way, then, Marx asked, is a wage slave different from a slave? For Marx the confusion of personal and property rights was the sign of the moral illegitimacy of private property. He wished to abolish it altogether, and we might well see the history of the last hundred years as a gigantic and tragic experiment to find out what happens when we do. The result has been ringingly clear and unambiguous. If you abolish private property – where directly, as in the communist model, or indirectly through state ownership, central planning, the command economy, and high taxation, as in the socialist and Nazi models – you effectively give total ownership of the lives, bodies, and minds of the people over to the state. Then, because the people do not have the means of persuasion provided by property to resist tyranny, the state often turns into the fiat of a single person, like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, or Pol Pot. The state can now extract not just one pound of flesh, but the whole body, and without a contract either – hair for upholstery, skin for lampshades, and all.”

  174. 174 jezebel282

    Portia,

    Whoa there, Buckaroo or Buckarette. That was a lot to take in one bite.

    “as in the socialist and Nazi models”

    There is a vast difference between Socialism and Nazism. I’m not going to bother pointing them out. However, there is also a vast difference between an economic model like Marxism and a political model like totalitarianism.

    And may I point out that our own Constitution does not even reference capitalism. Nor free trade, nor profit, nor wages, nor private enterprise. What is does provide are individual rights of security, due process and equal protection of the law ( which apparently certain GOP leaders would like to repeal).

    Let’s try to keep political and economic systems separate.

  175. 175 1george1

    Portia,

    I went from memory on Merchant of Venice, where I usually fact check
    on posts where I am unsure of a fact.
    I make honest mistakes.

    Not only do you understand many things of which I wrote, unlike many
    of the past / present posters, you can correct my errors and your posts
    when they “happen” to coincide with my point or post, give me THIRD
    PARTY ENDORSEMENT on INTELLECTUAL LEVELS where others award me
    TIN FOIL HATS. (Which I deserve on some posts …. so far) 😉

    I am not an INTELLECTUAL. I do honest investigation.
    IGNORANCE is not STUPIDITY
    MANY extremely INTELLIGENT PEOPLE lack COMMON SENSE.
    MANY extremely INTELLIGENT PEOPLE & other lack COMPASSION and
    EMPATHY or (in Jeze + Gavin’s case) emphasize for some people more
    than for others. SOMEONE tell GAVIN about the GAUNTLET.

    I also agree with your correction of Jeze.

    More than any other past or present blogger, you are well versed and
    remind me of someone I got to know not long ago.

  176. 176 1george1

    Unlikely endorsement of conspiracy theory:
    NONE of these were my words:

    YAHOO > Fidel Castro fascinated by book on Bilderberg Club

    By WILL WEISSERT, Associated Press Writer Will Weissert,
    Associated Press Writer – Wed Aug 18, 2:52 pm ET

    HAVANA – Fidel Castro is showcasing a theory long popular both
    among the far left and far right: that the shadowy Bilderberg Group
    has become a kind of global government, controlling not only
    international politics and economics, but even culture.

    The 84-year-old former Cuban president published an article
    Wednesday that used three of the only eight pages in the
    Communist Party newspaper Granma to quote — largely verbatim
    — from a 2006 book by Lithuanian-born writer Daniel Estulin.

    —- Estulin’s book, as quoted by Castro, described
    “sinister cliques and the Bilderberg lobbyists” manipulating the public
    “to install a world government that knows no borders and is not
    accountable to anyone but its own self.”

    The Bilderberg group’s website says its members have
    “nearly three days of informal and off-the-record discussion about topics
    of current concern” once a year, but the group does nothing else.

    —- The prominence of the group is what alarms critics.
    It often includes members of the Rockefeller family, Henry Kissinger,
    senior U.S. and European officials and major international business
    and media executives.

    The excerpt published by Castro suggested that the esoteric Frankfurt
    School of socialist academics worked with members of the Rockefeller
    family in the 1950s to pave the way for rock music to “control the masses”
    by diverting attention from civil rights and social injustice.

    Estulin’s work, “The Secrets of the Bilderberg Club,” argues that the
    international group largely runs the world.
    It has held a secretive annual forum of prominent politicians,
    thinkers and businessmen since it was founded in 1954 at the
    Bilderberg Hotel in Holland.

    — Castro — who had an inside seat to the Cold War
    — has long expressed suspicions of back-room plots.
    He has raised questions about whether the Sept. 11 attacks were
    orchestrated by the U.S. government to stoke military budgets and,
    more recently suggested that Washington was behind the March
    sinking of a South Korean ship blamed on North Korea.

    Estulin’s own website suggests that the 9/11 attacks were likely
    caused by small nuclear devices, and that the CIA and drug traffickers
    were behind the 1988 downing of a jetliner over Lockerbie, Scotland,
    that was blamed on Libya.

    …. “It’s great Hollywood material … 15 people sitting in a room sitting
    in a room determining the fate of mankind,” said Herbert London,
    president of the Hudson Institute, a nonpartisan policy think tank in
    New York. (West Point is on the HUDSON RIVER)

    “As someone who doesn’t come out of the Oliver Stone school of
    conspiracy, I have a hard time believing it,” London added.

    (LONDON city is capital of the British Common Wealth / Empire –
    This story appears to be blowback FUN of Intelligence community?)

  177. 177 1george1

    I skipped some paragraphs in the YAHOO POSTS.
    I believe the Rockefellers worked with / for others who want them to
    be seen as the bad guys.
    ANALOGOUS: Doe the QUEEN of ENGLAND know everything that goes
    on in her name, or is she only told and shown certain things?

    My feeling is the US Military and Intelligence Communities have worked
    with or for the British and French and Italian and Jewish Intelligence
    Communities and others.

    Because EVERYTHING is compartmentalized and there are so many
    SPECIALIZATIONS, what should be obvious to many is hidden in plain
    sight.

    See INATTENTIONAL BLINDNESS and CONCEPTUAL BLINDNESS from
    “The Invisible gorilla.”

    At 12:15 an ARMY Helicopter flew past my window, over the Housatonic
    River. It is not paranoia, just a message that black helicopters and NON
    BLACK Helicopters fly past my home often, as it is the appropriate route
    to Sikorsky, in case it needs to CRASH.

  178. 178 portia1776

    Jez,

    “There is a vast difference between Socialism and Nazism.”

    To paraphrase Martin Amis, the chasm is actually quite narrow and only seemingly deep. Socialism and Nazism have much more in common than most people think (or are willing to admit), and I’m not only getting at etymology i.e., “Nazi” literally means Nationalist Socialist Workers Party. Nor am I talking about the scores of “Progressive” polices that Hitler implemented during his reign of terror, including producing a great people’s car and nationalizing health care (free euthanasia for Jews!). Rather, consider the collectivist philosophical underpinnings of both systems and their view of the individual in relation to the all powerful state. Both systems fundamentally share a totalitarian governing schema, as ably described by Sir Isaiah Berlin:

    “Rousseau formulates the basic proposition of Communism, Fascism and all other totalitarian orders, namely that if one is sure that one has the correct solution to the questions ‘How should men live?’ and How should society be organised?’ one can, in the name of reason, impose it ruthlessly on others, since if they are rational they will agree freely; if they do not agree, they are not rational. This denies that different ideals of life, not necessarily altogether reconcilable with each other, are equally valid and equally worthy.”

    The difference in theory is limited to self-defined worldview, either outward or inward looking. Socialists always claimed to be internationalists, while Nazis and Fascists in general claimed to be rabid nationalists. In practice, however, socialism did not eliminate ethnic, racial, religious and xenophobic hatreds, as exemplified by Stalin and the Soviet Union’s Russian chauvinism. Ethnic minorities were persecuted and exterminated (e.g., the Holodomor or Ukrainian genocide, the most efficient on record, in which 7 million Ukrainians died in a socialist-imposed famine).

    Despite the promise of “equality” and leaving class, ethnic, and religious distinctions in the feudal past, Jews in the Soviet Union were excluded from whole fields of study and government service. Stalin infamously ordered the purge of his foreign ministry with the phrase “clear out the synagogue.” Just as infamously but less well known is the material, operational, and ideological support the Soviet communists gave to the Nazis, which in large part made possible their desires for war and perpetrating the Holocaust. This included providing insights on the construction of concentration camps, agreeing to better address the Soviet Union’s own “Jewish problem” along Nazi lines, and having the NKVD coordinate with the Gestapo and SS in the deportation of Jewish refugees from Soviet occupied territory back to Nazi occupied territory, and the Jews’ certain murder.

    This, and much more, is documented in an arresting documentary: The Soviet Story (a review is here: http://www.atlassociety.org/tni/the-soviet-story-edvins-snore-communism-communist-chic , a trailer of the film can be seen here: http://www.sovietstory.com/). There is also some evidence that, had Uncle Joe lived any longer, a mass extermination of the Jews was in the offing next.

    (For a present day example of socialist “egalitarianism,” consider how communist North Korea is “a nation of racist dwarfs,” http://www.slate.com/id/2243112/pagenum/all/#p2 )

    “…our own Constitution does not even reference capitalism. Nor free trade, nor profit, nor wages, nor private enterprise. What is does provide are individual rights of security, due process and equal protection of the law ( which apparently certain GOP leaders would like to repeal).”

    Contrary to constitutional scholar Michael Moore’s contradictory assessment, free-market capitalism is part and parcel of our Declaration of Independence and Constitution. (I say “contradictory” because if his perverted “Progressive” interpretation of “general welfare” meaning socialism is correct, why does he lament President Franklin Roosevelt’s failure to enact a so-called 2nd Bill of Right, which would have enshrined socialist policies (government guaranteed employment, housing, medical, etc…) into the Constitution? If we need to amend the Constitution to include those things, than clearly they are not there now).

    In brief response: the Declaration establishes that individuals have inalienable rights that cannot be violated by government, and provides a list of all the ways in which the English monarchy had done so, including in the sphere of economic liberty.

    The Constitution is fundamentally a document of what “Progressives” call “negative rights,” in that it severally limits government abridgments of individual liberty. The Founders guaranteed our “liberty” not “security” — something “Progressive” Democrats and Republicans can’t stand to admit and regularly try to flout. The powers not given to the national government were reserved for the individual to exercise in the only economic system that allows for mass individual self-advancement: free-market capitalism.

    While we could get into a textual debate or, as I have done previously, discuss the 14th Amendment’s unambiguous protections of economic liberty and the “Progressive” efforts to subvert the plain meaning of the text, I will confine myself to the Fourth and Fifth Amendment protections of the individual right to private property. In every time and place socialists have achieved power, they have never included such a protection of individual economic liberty in their constitutions, nor could they while remaining socialists.

    According to James Madison, author of the Constitution, “with respect to the two words ‘general welfare,’ I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators. If the words obtained so readily a place in the “Articles of Confederation,” and received so little notice in their admission into the present Constitution, and retained for so long a time a silent place in both, the fairest explanation is, that the words, in the alternative of meaning nothing or meaning everything, had the former meaning taken for granted.”

    Madison also found that: “As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights. Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions.”

    And, indeed, a “citizen” of a collectivist society, be it fascist or socialist, has no right to herself or anything else.

  179. 179 jezebel282

    Geeze!

  180. 180 1george1

    Portia / Jeze / et al
    Correct me if I am wrong?

    All societies are a form of “small s” socialism.

    I believe Marx praised capitalism as the last step to socialism.

    Totalitarianism, Dictatorships, Pseudo Democratic Republics, Divine Right
    blather, and gangsterism are social groups banded together for various
    reasons of mutual benefit for them, at the exclusionary expense of others.

    The creatures who presently control the political parties, are cowardly
    savages, who are selfish bullies. All ego. No self respect.

    I like the right to private property. I agree with Portia’s last two paragraphs.
    Portia points to the 4th and 5th Amendments, related to private property.
    We agree on the importance of the 14th Amendment, for different reasons,
    and I concur with Portia’s position.
    My focus constantly returns to the 1st and 9th Amendments, precisely
    because they are directly at odds with usurpers of the FEDS and STATE.

    I agree with most of Portia’s brilliant post.
    There are multiple areas for partial disagreements.
    However, Portia is a great writer and knowledgeable.
    Portia has superior education than I, and likely (far) more intelligent.

    I would love to not have to pay mortgages, utilities, car costs, and credit –
    the same as everyone else.
    Wholly ELECTRIC CARS and HOMES could solve SOOO MANY basic costs for
    EVERY ONE. The catch? An already devastated economy, gets worse:

    The Automobile and related markets including parts were 40 % of GDP/GNP.

    Electric cars do not need catalytic converters and commodities like platinum.

    Electric cars do not need a lot of the parts of internal combustion engines.

    Electric homes do not need power lines, which lose 14 % pf power from the
    generators to the homes

    Electric homes do not need natural gas, which have honey combs of under
    ground piping under most roads.

    Electric home can be built and landscaped to catch and filter rain water
    from the roof and yard, cutting water costs.

    This devastates the CENTRALIZED ASSETS of the PLANNING SYSTEM, of the
    2000 – 3000 largest companies which evolved from Depression to WW II to
    what Eisenhower and JK Galbraith warned about.

    The writers of the Federalist Papers, whom Portia quotes know the natural
    degenerative nature of humanity and power. The Federalist Papers are a
    WHITE PAPER on how to TAKE OVER the USA, when combined with the works
    of Adam Smith, DeTocqueville, and others.

    Where Portia and I part, is my including H G WELLs and orWELL into the
    equation as I believe those of the British Empire and supposed ROYAL
    HOUSE have far more influence and control of the USA ….

    My computers have been attacked March 18, June 10, July 15, August 10,
    and I believe if I do certain things, I will open myself up to new virus today.

    Every attack has been a learning experience.

    Every defeat has been a learning experience.

    While the man-sters (part man / part monsters) continue to attack me,
    with every attack the prove they are inferior as human beings.
    When you have all the toys and can attack anyone on a whim, it is easy
    to be brave.
    When people in power no longer need the deviants to do the grunt work
    other grunts will take their place and eliminate them.

  181. 181 portia1776

    I should have noted above that the whole concept of “negative” and “positive” rights is dangerous piffle.

    President Barack Obama’s churlish view of the liberal philosophic foundation of our Democratic Republic is illustrative: “…the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties, says what the states can’t do to you, says what the federal government can’t do to you, but it doesn’t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf.”

    Individual liberty can only be viewed as a “negative” if one’s point of reference is government. If one’s point of reference is the individual, constitutionally protected rights — to pursue your own happiness, exercise free speech, possess an independent conscience, seek self-advancement and to profit or suffer loss in the free market, own fire arms, to be secure in your person and property from unlawful molestation by government, to be considered equal in rights under the law, and have access to courts in which grievances can be redressed — can only be viewed as empowering.

    President Obama gives voice to the anti-individual collectivist ideology at the heart of his and others “Progressives” antipathy for the Declaration of Independence and Constitution — or what classical liberal Republican Frederick Douglass called our “great liberty document.”

    The Founders warnings (see above and below) have gone unheeded. In the absence of Constitutional limits, this “Progressive” administration and Congress are accelerating our painful trip down the road to serfdom (in Hayek’s phrase).

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) embraces faith-based “Progressivism.” When questioned about this, Pelosi claimed we, the little people formally known as her bosses, can only ask about the Speaker’s professed theocratic governing philosophy in church! She apparantly believes her oath to have been to the social justice gospels of Fr. Coughlin or Rev. Jeremiah Wright not upholding the Constitution (see: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/03/fun-with-pelosi-did-jesus-have-a-right-to-life-from-the-moment-of-conception/ ).

    “Progressive” Congressman Pete Stark (D-CA), when asked about the constitutionality of Obamacase, responded in his typical arrogant style: “The federal government can do most anything in this country (http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/02/congressman-pete-stark-d-ca-wishes-people-would-quit-bugging-him-about-the-constellation-or-whatever-its-called/#ixzz0x5oM2O4E ).” This is the same Congressman who says that the more debt you have, the richer you are: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjbPZAMked0 ). In the course of the nterview, Congressman Stark also denigrates the University of Puerto Rico and dismisses out-of-hand the ability of anyone without an advanced degree in economics (which he, by the way, doesn’t have) to question his omnipotence.

    “The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.”
    — Thomas Jefferson

    “Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
    — Benjamin Franklin

    Finally, in fairness to Michael Moore, the well intentioned propagandist has admitted. when properly confronted by a GWU senior, with the word “Capitalism” emblazoned on his t-shirt, that Moor misnamed his movie.

    The senior’s question concludes with: “…Realistically, is a system of private property and free market, which is capitalism, really a problem or is it that we are giving too much power to government and too much power to people within government who have a heavy hand?”

    In response, Moore says, in part: “We don’t really have a free market. We don’t have free enterprise… These people, these wealthy, these corporations they don’t really like competition. They don’t like us having a choice. They like monopolies. Their nirvana is if they were the only car company or the only airline. And it’s odd, isn’t it, that these people who say they believe so much in our way of life, actually believe in a system where they don’t want us to have a choice. They admire the old Soviet way. (imitating a Soviet bureaucrat’s voice): ‘We only need one car company.’ ‘We only need one newspaper.’ I don’t want to get hung-up on the labels, but you’re absolutely right about corporatism…”

    Moore then goes off the rails again, not understanding that the type of proletarian “democracy” he advocates would only increase the power of government at the expense of individual liberty, and inevitably empower the very well-connected corporations he hates (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz0axH7I9v0&feature=related ).

  182. 182 1george1

    Hey PORTIA – FOOD for THOUGHT

    Wikipedia:
    “Creative destruction” is an economic theory of innovation and progress, introduced by German sociologist Werner Sombart and elaborated and
    popularized by the Austrian economist Joseph Schumpeter.

    In Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy, Schumpeter popularized and used
    the term to describe the process of transformation that accompanies radical innovation.

    In Schumpeter’s vision of capitalism, innovative entry by entrepreneurs
    was the force that sustained long-term economic growth, even as it
    destroyed the value of established companies and laborers that enjoyed
    some degree of monopoly power derived from previous technological, organizational, regulatory, and economic paradigms.

    Companies that once revolutionized and dominated new industries –
    for example, – Xerox in copiers – or Polaroid in instant photography –
    have seen their profits fall and their dominance vanish as rivals
    launched improved designs or cut manufacturing costs.

    Just as older behemoths perceived to be juggernauts by their
    contemporaries (e.g., Montgomery Ward, FedMart, Woolworths)
    were eventually undone by nimbler and more innovative competitors,
    Wal-Mart faces the same threat.

    Just as the cassette tape replaced the 8-track, only to be replaced
    in turn by the compact disc, itself being undercut by MP3 players,
    the seemingly dominant Wal-Mart may well find itself an antiquated
    company of the past. This is the process of creative destruction.

    –successful innovation is normally a source of temporary market power,
    eroding the profits and position of old firms.
    –Creative destruction can cause temporary economic distress.
    Layoffs of workers with obsolete working skills can be one price of new innovations valued by consumers.

    —Schumpeter and the Obsolescence of the Entrepreneur – Uconn 1987
    Richard Langlois
    Among the best-known and most-provocative of Schumpeter’s ideas is
    one that has not gone entirely without mention in present-day debate:
    the eventual obsolescence of the entrepreneur and (withal) the summary mechanization of economic progress.
    Whereas innovation, and hence economic growth and development,
    was once the province of bold individual entrepreneurs, the modern
    age will see the passing of this form of economic organization in favor
    of a regime in which economic change has become a matter of routine
    and mechanical management


    Nietzsche’s influence remains substantial within and beyond philosophy,
    notably in existentialism and postmodernism.
    His style and radical questioning of the value and objectivity of truth
    have resulted in much commentary and interpretation, mostly in the
    continental tradition.
    His key ideas include the death of God, perspectivism, “the Übermensch,”
    the eternal recurrence, and “the will to power.”

    Nietzsche began his career as a classical philologist
    before turning to philosophy.


    Milton Friedman (July 31, 1912 – November 16, 2006) was an American
    economist, statistician, and a recipient of the Nobel Memorial Prize in
    Economics. Among scholars, he is best known for his
    theoretical and empirical research, especially consumption analysis,
    monetary history and theory,
    and for his demonstration of the complexity of stabilization policy.

    Friedman’s claim that monetary policy could have prevented the
    Great Depression was an attempt to refute the analysis of Keynes,
    who argued that monetary policy is ineffective during depression
    conditions and that fiscal policy
    — large-scale deficit spending by the government —
    is needed to decrease mass unemployment.
    Though opposed to the existence of the Federal Reserve,
    Friedman argued that, given that it does exist, a steady, small expansion
    of the money supply was the only wise policy,
    and he warned against efforts by a treasury or central bank to do otherwise.

    Friedman was also known for his work on the consumption function,
    the permanent income hypothesis (1957), which Friedman himself
    referred to as his best scientific work.
    This work contended that rational consumers would spend a
    proportional amount of what they perceived to be
    their permanent income.
    Windfall gains would mostly be saved.
    Tax reductions likewise, as rational consumers
    would predict that taxes would have to increase
    later to balance public finances.

    As an economic conservative, Kemp advocated low taxes and
    supply-side policies during his political career.
    His positions spanned the social spectrum, ranging from his
    conservative opposition to abortion to his more libertarian
    stances advocating immigration reform.
    As a proponent of both Chicago school and supply-side economics,
    he is notable as an influence upon the Reagan agenda and the
    architect of the Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981, which is
    known as the Kemp–Roth tax cut.
    Jack Kemp was a 33rd degree Freemason in the Northern Masonic
    Jurisdiction.
    In economics, the Laffer curve is a theoretical representation of
    the relationship between government revenue raised by taxation
    and all possible rates of taxation.
    It is clear that a 0% tax rate raises no revenue, but the Laffer curve
    hypothesis is that a 100% tax rate will also generate no revenue
    because at such a rate there is no longer any incentive for a rational
    taxpayer to earn any income, thus the revenue raised will be 100% of
    nothing.
    If both a 0% rate and 100% rate of taxation generate no revenue,
    it follows that there must exist at least one rate in between where
    tax revenue would be a maximum.


    John Maynard Keynes, profoundly affected the theory and practice of
    modern macroeconomics, as well as the economic policies of governments.
    He identified the causes of business cycles, and advocated the use of
    fiscal and monetary measures to mitigate the adverse effects of economic recessions and depressions. His ideas are the basis for the school of thought known as Keynesian economics, and its various offshoots.

    In the 1930s, Keynes spearheaded a revolution in economic thinking,
    overturning the older ideas of neoclassical economics that held that
    free markets would automatically provide full employment as long as
    workers were flexible in their wage demands.
    Keynes instead argued that aggregate demand determined the overall
    level of economic activity, and that inadequate aggregate demand
    could lead to prolonged periods of high unemployment.

    Following the outbreak of World War II, Keynes’s ideas concerning
    economic policy were adopted by leading Western economies.
    During the 1950s and 1960s, the success of Keynesian economics
    was so resounding[citation needed] that almost all capitalist
    governments adopted its policy recommendations, promoting
    the cause of social liberalism.


    The Marshall Plan (officially the European Recovery Program, ERP)
    was the primary program, 1947–51, of the United States for
    rebuilding and creating a stronger economic foundation for the
    countries of Europe.

    The initiative was named for Secretary of State George Marshall
    and was largely the creation of State Department officials,
    especially William L. Clayton and George F. Kennan.
    (SEE KEENAN LONG WIRE)

    George Marshall spoke of the administration’s desire to help the
    European recovery in his address at Harvard University in June 1947.

    The reconstruction plan, developed at a meeting of the participating
    European states, was established on June 5, 1947.
    It offered the same aid to the USSR and its allies,
    but they did not accept it.
    The plan was in operation for four years beginning in April 1948.
    During that period some US $13 billion in economic and technical
    assistance were given to help the recovery of the European
    countries that had joined in the Organization for
    European Economic Co-operation.
    This $13 billion was in the context of a U.S. GDP of $258 billion in 1948,
    and was on top of $12 billion in American aid to Europe between the
    end of the war and the start of the Plan.

    The ERP addressed each of the obstacles to postwar recovery.
    The plan looked to the future, and did not focus on the destruction
    caused by the war. Much more important were efforts to modernize
    European industrial and business practices using high-efficiency
    American models, reduce artificial trade barriers, and instill a
    sense of hope and self-reliance.

    By 1952 as the funding ended, the economy of every participant state
    had surpassed pre-war levels; for all Marshall plan recipients,
    output in 1951 was 35% higher than in 1938.
    Over the next two decades, Western Europe enjoyed
    unprecedented growth and prosperity,
    but economists are not sure what proportion was due d
    irectly to the ERP, what proportion indirectly,
    and how much would have happened without it.

    The Marshall Plan was one of the first elements of European
    integration, as it erased trade barriers and set up institutions
    to coordinate the economy on a continental level—that is, it
    stimulated the total political reconstruction of western Europe

    Economic collapse of Soviet Communism

    During the 1980s, the Eastern Bloc, which relied on a stagnant form
    of plan economy, experienced a decade-long period of stagflation,
    and eventual collapse from which it did not recover,
    culminating with revolutions and the fall of communist regimes
    throughout Central and Eastern Europe and eventually in the Soviet Union.
    The process was accompanied by a gradual but important easing
    of restrictions on economic and political behaviour in the late 1980s,
    including in the satellite states.

    Russian collapse of 1998

    A severe financial collapse took place in the Russian Federation in
    August 1998. It was caused by low oil prices
    (MY HEATING OIL cost 50 to 60 Cents a Gallon 1998 – 1999)
    and government expenditure cuts after the end of the Cold War.

    In real terms, economic activity plunged and may have dropped
    as much as 50 per cent of peak output reached in 1988
    (RUSSIA then experienced what USA is going through NOW!)

    Other nations of the former Soviet Union also experienced
    economic collapse, although a number of crises also involved
    armed conflicts, like in the break-away region Chechnya.

    Despite a crackdown on the oligarchs and allegations of a
    clampdown on the freedom of the media and political opposition,
    the Russian economy has made a significant recovery
    in the past decade due in part to proceeds from the
    sale of oil and gas in neighboring countries,
    notably in Europe.

    In the autumn of 2008, Russia suffered a renewed collapse
    of confidence in its financial markets.

    ====

    HEY JEZE

    SEE!

  183. 183 1george1

    JEZE + PORTIA > Not every reader can related these basic
    concepts of Capitalism and project them to be analogous
    to the OLD MARSHALL PLAN and the REALISTIC ABILITY to
    turn the OLD WAR ECONOMY into a PEACE ECONOMY.

    So far the T.A.R.P. and STIMULUS are intentionally transparent
    and unfair STEERING to FAVORED GROUPS, which has always
    happened, yet in FAR LESS transparent ways and the increased
    burdens on everyones BUDGET have forced all of us to PAY
    ATTENTION to those things we took for GRANTED.

    MANY PEOPLE are terrified that what is happening to others will
    happen to them. OTHERS are trying to steal as much as they can
    while they can get it.

    I contend HONEST and PROPERLY RELATED and well planned and
    implmented CAPITALISM can benefit hymanity.

    SEED MONEY DEFINED:

    Capital needed to set up a new business or enterprise

    A usually modest amount of money used to convert an idea
    into a viable business.

    A grant used to start a new project or organization.
    Seed grants may cover salaries and other operating
    expenses of a new project.

    The first round of capital for a start-up business.
    Seed money usually takes the structure of a loan
    or an investment in preferred shares or convertible bonds,
    although sometimes it is ordinary shares.

    =======
    Definitions of RETURN ON INVESTMENT

    A form of cost-benefit analysis that measures the costs of a program
    (ie, the investment) versus the financial return realized by that program

    A measure of the financial gain (or loss) of a project in relation
    to its cost. It is calculating by taking:
    Financial Gain or Loss – Project Cost / Project Cost) X 100.

    Return on invested capital: (corporate finance) the amount,
    expressed as a percentage, that is earned on a company’s
    total capital calculated by dividing the total capital into
    earnings before interest, taxes, or dividends are paid

    In finance, rate of return (ROR), also known as return on investment
    (ROI), rate of profit or sometimes just return, is the ratio of money
    gained or lost (whether realized or unrealized)
    on an investment relative to the amount of money invested

    ==============

    ALL EGGHEAD THEORIES ASIDE:

    A RISING TIDE, RAISES ALL BOATS.

    My suggestion when I worked for Grolier was to let the top 15 earners
    teach the other 100 workers what they were doing correctly.

    The top 15 averaged a 10 = 150
    The next 30 averaged a 5 = 150
    The bottom 70 averaged about 1.5 = 105
    Cummulative average 4

    After creating TEAMS
    The top 15 averaged a 10 = 150
    The next 30 averaged a 8 = 240
    The bottom 70 averaged about 5 = 350
    Cummulative average 7.4

    Everyone made more money.
    The office average ALMOST DOUBLED, because the majority had the
    greatest improvement in performance and income, because they were
    taught successful tricks that the top performers networked and learned
    from each other.

    The same thing can happen to all USA workers and Business owners,
    as well as foreign workers and business owners.

    What stands in the way.
    It is not STUPIDITY.
    It is IGNORANCE.

  184. 184 1george1

    PIFFLE – – – PIFFLE??? NEVER SAW that word before!
    perhaps blend of piddle and trifle (portmanteau) – – Date: circa 1878
    : to talk or act in a trivial, inept, or ineffective way

    A portmanteau or portmanteau word is used to mean a blend of two
    (or more) words or morphemes and their meanings into one new word

  185. 185 1george1

    Portia – Your post, while I was collecting and posting,
    is brilliant.

    It is especially brilliant in referencing ideas of the past.

    Nader was Al Gore well before Al Gore, who is now worth in excess
    of $ 100 million for keeping his mouth shut about 2000.

    Nader took on GENERAL MOTORS 20 years before Michael Moore’s
    Roger and me.

    They, like Marx, Orwell, HG Wells, Eisenhower, Galbraith and others
    including most of us, can identify many of the problems.
    And we have preferred solutions …..
    And I like those who you quote.

    Portia and others …. may I ask a small set of favors:
    1 – Google Wikipedia Ralph Nader

    2 – Check the accomplishments of Nader’s organizations for the consumer.

    3 – Project the effect and affect of Nader’s Raiders accomplishments on
    your life and the lives of all Americans!

    4 – While Nader has a negative affect of simple gross profits, he may have
    and affirmative affect on net profits and social cost benefits

    NADER has done for the CONSUMER, what MARTIN LUTHER KING Jr. did
    for BLACKS and POOR PEOPLE.

    There is someone who I forget his name who has several of the biggest
    awards for his work in creating food, which has helped feed billions.

    I should remember his name and everyone should honor people who are
    builders of constructuve lives instead of destroyers …

  186. 186 1george1

    I love the INTERNET – INSTANT LIBRARY!!!

    Thank you DARPA!!!

    Norman Ernest Borlaug (March 25, 1914 – September 12, 2009)
    was an American agronomist, humanitarian, and Nobel laureate
    who has been called “the father of the Green Revolution”.

    Borlaug was one of only six people to have won

    the Nobel Peace Prize,

    the Presidential Medal of Freedom and

    the Congressional Gold Medal.

    He was also a recipient of the Padma Vibhushan,
    India’s second highest civilian honor.

    Borlaug received his Ph.D. in plant pathology and genetics
    from the University of Minnesota in 1942.

    He took up an agricultural research position in Mexico, where he
    developed semi-dwarf, high-yield, disease-resistant wheat varieties.

    During the mid-20th century, Borlaug led the introduction of these
    high-yielding varieties combined with modern agricultural production
    techniques to Mexico, Pakistan, and India.

    As a result, Mexico became a net exporter of wheat by 1963.
    Between 1965 and 1970, wheat yields nearly doubled in Pakistan and India,
    greatly improving the food security in those nations.

    These collective increases in yield have been labeled the
    Green Revolution, and Borlaug is often credited with

    saving over a billion people worldwide from starvation.

    He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1970 in recognition of
    his contributions to world peace through increasing food supply.

    Later in his life, he helped apply these methods of increasing
    food production to Asia and Africa.

    —-

    Borlaug was the great-grandchild of Norwegian immigrants to the
    United States. Ole Olson Dybevig and Solveig Thomasdotter Rinde,
    from Leikanger, Norway, emigrated to Dane, Wisconsin, in 1854.

    The family eventually moved to the small Norwegian-American
    community of Saude, near Cresco, Iowa.
    There they were members of the Saude Lutheran Church,
    where Norman was both baptized and confirmed.

    —-

    ISN’T the USA great?

    Norman Borlaug – Norwegian Lutheran

    Jack Kemp = Church of Christ converted Presbyterian 33 degree Mason.

    Milton Friedman – Jewish from Brooklyn, decended from Hungary

    Ralph Nader – Lebanese Maronite Christian, arabic was family’s native tongue

    Martin Luther King Jr. – Black Baptist

    JK Galbraith – Canadian born – Scottish

    JD Rockefeller – French Huguenot ancestors

    Bush – Episcopalian – English / German

    Obama – descended from Kenyan dad + English / German mom
    Parents met in RUSSIAN LANGUAGE CLASS
    Known associate of Weatherman William C Ayers = overthrow US government
    Successor to GW BUSH who destroyed the average americans’ economy

    Barry Goldwater Jewish American, parents from London. German / Russian

    Hyman George Rickover “Father of the USA nuclear navy” Son of Jewish
    immigrants from Poland / Russia.

    Igor Sikorsky – born Keiv Russian Empire – Russian Orthodox

    ISN’T the USA Great!!

  187. 187 jezebel282

    Portia,

    While this (selective) history lesson has been fun, it does not justify the gridlock that has brought our government to an almost screeching halt.

    It has become apparent that the GOP strategy of bringing Obama’s popularity level to that of George W. Bush by the tactic of obvious obstructionism harms the entire country and does very little to enhance the popularity of the GOP.

    A particular example comes to mind. Unemployment benefits. Rather than supporting actual people by investing in their future (even by conservative standards, every dollar of unemployment benefits returns $1.63 to our economy) Congress was unable to agree to anything other than kicking the can down the road for a couple of months. And then they went of vacation leaving the ones who have suffered the most to just fall off the cliff after cutting benefits and eliminating COBRA subsidies.

    And now the debate is about to begin to extend the Bush tax cuts (is there any other reason for Linda McMahon to run?). For nearly 10 years now, the wealthiest 2% have enjoyed the biggest tax benefits. Has our economy improved? Has the employment rate gone up? Maybe homes value increased? Our manufacturing base expanded? When is all that money going to start trickling somewhere?

    While the philosophical discussion of Capitalism v. Socialism (it seems Nazis and Soviets are the only ones who are Socialist) is interesting, politicians have yet to learn that you can’t cut taxes and increase spending at the same time. I doubt very much that those who are clamoring for the Bush tax cuts to be extended have lost dependable income unlike the 17 million other Americans who have lost their jobs, health insurance, homes, vehicles, and self-worth. You can add 500,000 Americans to that side of the ledger as of yesterday. But they don’t have a lobby, do they?

    Government has always been a trade off. In order to secure life, you must give up your freedom to kill. In order to keep property, you must give up your freedom to take it from others. When you become sick or injured, you give up your freedom to ignore others. To do otherwise would be to withdraw from society and exist as best as you can.

  188. 188 sudds

    OK Portia… you’re starting to officially lose my support!!! 😆

    PS… don’t worry PCS… she was never even close to replacing you in my ummm, errr, ahhh… heart!!! 😉

  189. 189 1george1

    Portia and Jeze may be Lincoln/Ike Republican and FDR Democrat.

    If I believed anyone running for office was one of those, and credible,
    I would be willing to join a political party and vote in PRIMARIES.

    If you check the resumes of those in the Trilateral Commission,
    Council on Foreign Affairs, Bilderberg, and the various appointees
    and elected of both National and State Governments / Parties –
    is there any difference among them?
    Kinda like Miron > Harkins Town Attorneys + Police + Fire Chiefs + PW?

    For Bush Cheney supporters and detractors, please ranks best to worse?
    For Democrate supporters and detractors, please ranks best to worse,
    and tell why they are any different?

    Hurricane Katrina relief … uh … efforts – almost 2,000 dead
    9/11 – almost 3000 dead
    Afghanistan –
    Iraq War – over 3000 USA dead + 6 figure others > they do not count?
    Iraq OIL off Market > OIL PRICING 1998 to present
    Natural Gas / Coal pricing
    Social Security minimal COLA increases
    Health Care cost increases
    ENRON
    WORLD COM
    CHAPTER 11 Changes
    CREDIT CARD Rate Changes
    BUNDLING non securitized LOANS
    REGULATORY OVERSIGHT > NOT !
    UAL
    TRANSPORTATION
    KMART
    COUNTRYSIDE LENDING
    FANNY MAY
    FREDDIE MAC
    REAL ESTATE MARKET
    STOCK MARKET CRASH – PILLAGE
    BOND MARKET
    MERRILL LYNCH
    AIG
    GOLDMAN SACKS
    > BAILOUT – BRIBE – $ 750 BILLION
    > STIMULUS – BRIBE – $ 750 BILLION
    Rebuilt Russia at cost of USA Oil / Gas pricing
    Built China, India, Brazil, East Europe at cost of USA Industries

    Anyone want to add to the LIST?

  190. 190 1george1

    Joke from a jewish friend about a Jewish Prayer

    A Jewish Prayer

    A female CNN journalist heard about a very old Jewish man who had
    been going to the Western Wall to pray, twice a day, every day, for a
    long, long time.

    So she went to check it out. She went to the Western Wall and there
    he was, walking slowly up to the holy site.

    She watched him pray and after about 45 minutes, when he turned to
    leave, using a cane and moving very slowly, she approached him for an
    interview .

    ‘Pardon me, sir, I’m Rebecca Smith from CNN. What’s your name?

    ‘Morris Fishbein,’ he replied.

    ‘Sir, how long have you been coming to the Western Wall and praying?’

    ‘For about 60 years.’

    ’60 years! That’s amazing! What do you pray for?’

    ‘I pray for peace between the Christians, Jews and the Muslims.’
    I pray for all the wars and all the hatred to stop.
    I pray for all our children to grow up safely as responsible adults,
    and to love their fellow man.’

    ‘How do you feel after doing this for 60 years?’

    ‘Like I’m talking to a f***in’ wall.

    ========================================================

    Oy vey – Can I identify with that, this blog, n POLITICS!

    Syl used to enjoy his Jewish Jokes – which I was carefull to limit
    as Syl was a lady. I think Syl woulda laughed … than admonished
    me about swearin in thepunchline

    ================== for Jeze ==============================

    A woman came home, screeching her car into the driveway,
    and ran into the house.
    She slammed the door and shouted at the top of her lungs,
    ‘Honey, pack your bags. I won the lottery!’
    The husband said, ‘Oh my God! What should I pack, beach stuff
    or mountain stuff?’
    ‘Doesn’t matter,’ she said. ‘Just get out.’

    ====================== For Sudds =============================

    Mother Superior called all the nuns together and said to them,
    ‘I must tell you all something.
    We have a case of gonorrhea in the convent.’
    ‘Thank God,’ said an elderly nun at the back.
    ‘I’m so tired of chardonay.’

    ===================== For Mike R ==============================

    One day, a man came home and was greeted by his wife
    dressed in a very Sexy nightie.
    ‘Tie me up,’ she purred, ‘and you can do anything you want.’
    So he tied her up and went golfing.

    ==================== For Jimmy ==============================

    Fifty-one years ago, Herman James, a North Carolina
    mountain man, was drafted by the Army.

    On his first day in basic training, the Army issued him a comb.
    That afternoon the Army barber sheared off all his hair.

    On his second day, the Army issued Herman a toothbrush.
    That afternoon the Army dentist yanked seven of his teeth.

    On the third day, the Army issued him a jock strap.
    The Army has been looking for Herman for 51 years.

    ======================== For Portia ====================

    A man takes the day off and decides to go out golfing.
    He is on the second hole when he notices a frog sitting
    next to the green. He thinks nothing of it and is about
    to shoot when he hears, Ribbit 9 Iron.”

    The man looks around and doesn’t see anyone.
    Again, he hears, “Ribbit 9 Iron.”
    He looks at the frog and decides to prove the frog wrong,
    puts the club away, and grabs a 9 iron.
    Boom!

    He hits it 10 inches from the cup. He is shocked.
    He says to the frog, “Wow that’s amazing.
    You must be a lucky frog, eh?” The frog replies, “Ribbit Lucky frog.”

    The man decides to take the frog with him to the next hole.
    “What do you think frog?” the man asks. “Ribbit 3 wood.”
    The guy takes out a 3 wood and, Boom! Hole in one.
    The man is befuddled and doesn’t know what to say.
    By the end of the day, the man golfed the
    best game of golf in his life and asks the frog,
    “OK where to next?” The frog replies, “Ribbit Las Vegas.”

    They go to Las Vegas and the guy says, “OK frog, now what?”
    The frog says, “Ribbit Roulette.” Upon approaching the roulette table,
    The man asks, “What do you think I should
    bet?” The frog replies, “Ribbit $3000, black 6.”

    Now, this is a million-to-one shot to win, but after the
    golf game the man figures what the heck.
    Boom! Tons of cash comes sliding back across the table.

    The man takes his winnings and buys the best room in the hotel.
    He sits the frog down and says, “Frog, I don’t know how to repay you.
    You’ve won me all this money and I am forever grateful.”

    The frog replies, “Ribbit Kiss Me.”
    He figures why not, since after all the frog did for him, he deserves it.
    With a kiss, the frog turns into a gorgeous 15-year-old girl.

    “And that, your honor, is how the girl ended up in my room.
    So help me God, or my name is not William Jefferson Clinton.”

    ==================== for the RTC = B UTTER NUTS =================

    Some stupid Pirate joke

    A pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel on his pants.

    The Bartender asks, “whats with the wheel?”
    The pirate says, “Ar! It drives me nuts!”

    ================= For Me – I added some of my own after # 10 ======

    Who Reads Newspapers?

    The Wall Street Journal: is read by the people who
    run the country.

    The New York Times: is read by people who
    think they run the country.

    The Washington Post: is read by people who
    think they ought to run the country.

    USA Today: is read by people who think they
    ought to run the country but don’t understand The Washington Post.

    The Los Angeles Times: is read by people who wouldn’t mind
    running the country, if they could spare the time.

    The Boston Globe: is read by people whose parents used to run the country.

    The New York Daily News: is read by people who
    aren’t too sure who’s running the country?

    The New York Post: is read by people who don’t care who’s
    running the country, as long as they do something scandalous.

    The San Francisco Chronicle: is read by people who aren’t sure there
    is a country, or that a country is a good idea in the first place?

    The Miami Herald: is read by people who are running another country.

    The Chicago Tribune: is read by people who live in the Midwest,
    which readers of the other newspapers don’t think is part of the
    country.

    Variety: is read by people who do not care what is written
    about them, but need to see their names and/or their
    clients name associated with self indulgence, shock, sex, drugs,
    alcohol, scandal, and notoriety.
    Known to worship golden calf type award statues:
    Golden Globe; Oscar; Tony; Emmy; SAG; Guild; Critic;

    Izvestia: (Delivered news) is read by government nomenkltura
    and apparatchik to stay abreast of the latest
    Russian government lies and delusions.
    (Counterpart: Washington Post, The Times, & Newsweek)

    Pravda: (Truth) is read by Communist party people, who wish it was
    softer, for toilet paper.

    Mad Magazine: is read by people who should run the Country.
    They tend to watch: The Simpsons, South Park, Family Guy,
    and other counter culture outspoken comedy.

    Stars and Stripes: is read by ranks and files of patriots, and
    “those who betray them and our beliefs” and allow our Country
    run by: Warlords, WarLockes; Warwhores; Warmongers;
    War Bucks; War gamers; Plutocrats; Mensamorons, Logocracrats;
    Schadenfreude-ist; Sadists; Morelockes; Oligarchy; OILgarchy;
    Narcokleptocracy; Kratocracy; Kleptocracy; and
    Puppeteer Chess masters, who use people as pieces.

    CIA Presidential Daily Briefing: is composed and read by
    willing and useful idiots for History’s zigs, zags, repetitions,
    perversions, ego massaging, psychic gratification, power,
    money, and disinformation.

    The Sun, Telegraph, The Times: Wikipedia
    > The newspaper industry in England is dominated by
    national newspapers, all of which are edited in London.

    from George >
    Multiple fonts and icons are embedded within each publication,
    including multilingual, pseudo classical fonts, and steganography
    with number-letter code pad messages from the Home Office to
    primogeniture nobility, cut outs, operatives, surrogates, and
    collateral relatives.
    Directors: operations, investments, seed money, appanage, royalties,
    and other considerations.

    Using stratification, hierarchical increments, and gradation the
    classically educated titled can move into government, military,
    intelligence, academia, private industry, bureaucracy, corporocracy, corruptocracy, crony capitalism, croney government, & entertainment,

    (similar to movement of Trilateral Commission or Council of Foreign Affairs,
    into -out of government or business, for policy changes illusions).

    Created by Magna Carta lords, nobles, peers,relatives, surrogates,
    and people who cause all of the world’s problems.

    Le Monde – deGaulle inspired, post WW II – Created or read by people
    who cause all of the world’s problems

  191. 191 portia1776

    Sudds: “OK Portia… you’re starting to officially lose my support!!! :lol:”

    Is there a reason? According to Jez you should agree with me on everything (i.e., I’m a proud Republican, although of the classical liberal not “Progressive” or mainstream Conservative varieties). Perhaps it was the Michale Moore quote? Or maybe this: I share Jez’s disdain for the candidate from the WWE, but still consider her to be a lesser evil than Blumenthal, a disgraceful impostor and “Progressive” shill.

    Jez, you’re not giving me much to work with here — mostly changes of emphasis, but those are fairly minor when considering the contentious issues we have been discussing.

    “(selective) history” — is there any other kind? The bigger question is why do we only have a romanticized view of socialism, such that it is always portrayed as a good idea that just fails in practice (some, mostly in academia or the media, even deny this), while no one would dare to engage in the same kinds of apologetics for fascism. My point with all the political theory, con law, literary analysis, economics, and history is that we are wrong to focus on the differences rather than similarities between these two feathers of the same collectivist bird, which is almost never done.

    “GOP Obstructionism ” is a curious charge. George W. Bush and Republicans claimed minority Democrats were “obstructing” their judicial appointments and voted down his plan for Social Security privatization for purely political reasons, remember? Now that President Barack Obama and Democrats are in the majority, it’s minority Republicans that are “obstructing” his agenda for purely political reasons. I don’t buy it. It should not be a surprise that the opposition actually opposes the ruling party’s policies nor should it be huffily written that to do so damages the country. If anything, we have too much agreement in Washington. Too much bipartisanship. I’m not suggesting going back to dueling pistols, but some principled debates from time to time would be good for the Republic.

    Where there is a fair criticism to be made is when considering the counter-factual: if President Bush (or a President McCain), and not President Obama, had proposed some of the same unlimited government policies, would most Republicans have gone along for the ride? As I have been demonstrating ad nauseum, the answer is probably “yes” (sorry, Sudds!) We would like to think otherwise, but then consider Sarbanes–Oxley, “Homeland Security,” “No Child Left Behind,” the Medicare Prescription Drug Plan, “Patriot Act,” TARP, etc… All these “Progressive” abominations passed with large majorities in both parties.

    Milton Friedman didn’t believe we have to “vote the bums out.” Instead, he said, we need to make the wrong people do the right things, by making it politically costly not to. We, the people, must reassert ourselves as the only lobby any elected official should be concerned about pleasing.

    In my previous post on unemployment benefits I discussed the reasons why Republicans AND some Democrats opposed the original bloated bill that sought to extend unemployment benefits and, in the process, give away lots of goodies to special interest groups and kill jobs (I know, in this Congress, all the bills are like that).

    Whether or not your multiplier number is right (seems more than a tad high), unemployment benefits must be extended. My problem is not the extension per se, provided we can strip away all the rider nonsense. What bothers me is the idea of continually “kicking the can down the road” a couple months at a time. Capriciousness in selecting who gets the extension and then for how long doesn’t help anyone. We would be better off to set an upper limit (perhaps 4 years) for everyone currently receiving or who will need unemployment, and be done with it.

    Individuals and the market need certainty. While there is an undeniable moral hazard involved with offering too generous unemployment benefits, I think the hardships that would be suffered were they not extended more than outweigh the risks, at least for the conceivable future (there is much truth in humor: http://thepeoplescube.com/images/images_working/PDF_Illustrator/Stimulus.pdf ).

    On a related note: do you not see the undeniable political benefit to Democrats to, every few months, remind millions of Americans on unemployment that they are dependent upon the beneficence of President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, and Senate Majority Leader Reid to keep their only income, “health insurance, homes, vehicles, and self-worth”? Methinks that this is the real reason we’re not getting a long-term solution.

    We also discussed the Bush tax cuts previously. I stated clearly that expiration is preferable to extension as is. I would prefer extension with serious amendment to address the worrisome statistic that nearly 50% of the country pays no national income taxes at all. If it is patriotic to pay taxes, all Americans should bear the burden as equally as possible. As for the economic perspective: whether or not taxes go up, there is just not enough revenue to keep up with new spending or meet existing debt obligations. Our only hope is to grow the pie. And the only way to do so is to transfer the economy from the government back to the free-market. All policies, whether by Democrats or Republicans, must be evaluated with this in mind.

    “(it seems Nazis and Soviets are the only ones who are Socialist)” — To be fair, I didn’t say that. There are many different varieties of socialism, ranging from the milquetoast, Western European-style “welfare states” to thuggish, regressive Chavez-style “21th Century Socialism,” to Khmer Rouge or Maoist or Nazi, or Stalinist-style genocidal regimes. Using Hayek’s metaphor, conditions vary widely depending on how far along a state is on the “road to serfdom.”

    “can’t cut taxes and increase spending at the same time” — similarly you can’t dramatically increase spending by more than tax revenue indefinitely. Of course, we are talking about government accounting, so perhaps the laws of economics (think the law of physics) don’t apply?! Congressman Pete Stark says so.

    “Government has always been a trade off” — absolutely right!!! Unfortunately, we are increasingly being forced to surrender individual and economic liberty for unlimited, lower quality government.

    We’re not getting a fair deal, and haven’t been for sometime.

  192. 192 sudds

    “Is there a reason? According to Jez you should agree with me on everything (i.e., I’m a proud Republican, although of the classical liberal not “Progressive” or mainstream Conservative varieties).”

    Therein lies your problem! NEVER believe what other people have to say about me! in full disclosure, I am currently a “R”… but I am ONLY so because I wanted to vote in the presidential primary, and I’ve been too lazy to fill-out the form to be an “I” again!!!

    I believe in a few of the ingredients in the Republican Kool-Aid… a few ingredients in the Democratic Kool-Aid… but most importantly I believe a LOT in what both parties seem to lack (especially in Stratford politics)… COMMON SENSE!!!

  193. 193 1george1

    From Portia:
    Our only hope is to grow the pie.

    From George:
    Among my above posts are to have a NEW “MARSHALL PLAN.”
    The old one cost “only” $ 13 Billion from 1948 to 1952.

    Then it used the Korean War for Stimulous and building Japan
    both as a staging area and being perpetually threatened by
    CHINA / N KOREA sword of damacles.

    Western Europe and Pacific Rim were built up after WW II.
    Russia, Warsaw, China, India, & Brazil were built from end of Cold War.
    Between them and the old British Empire and Common Wealth perhaps
    60 % of the world population have better lives, than ever?

    The Weapons and Drug Traffic should not be necessary, but is a fact
    of life and death, where power appears dominant ….

    =================================================================
    From Portia:
    “Government has always been a trade off” — absolutely right!!!
    Unfortunately, we are increasingly being forced to surrender
    individual and economic liberty for unlimited, lower quality
    government.

    We’re not getting a fair deal, and haven’t been for sometime.

    From George:
    The more obvious the problems, the more outaged people become,
    as it affect them.

    Invariably, people are pit against people and the wrong people are the
    ones under fire.
    Omar Bradley: “wrong war, wrong place, wrong time, wrong enemy.”

    Wikipedia: Schumpeter summary and Heilbronner summaries.
    Actual readings induce sleep!

  194. 194 1george1

    Marshall Plan:

    Cooperative effort in creating mutual benefit clearly and simply stated
    in George Marshall’s speach.

    SEED MONEY would be provided.
    LOGISTICAL SUPPORT would be given.
    RETURN ON INVESTMENT cascades in geometeric benefits of trade.

    Simply read the speach.

  195. 195 jezebel282

    Portia,

    You may be correct that is a matter of emphasis. For example:
    “George W. Bush and Republicans claimed minority Democrats were “obstructing” their judicial appointments”
    They may have claimed that, but given the litmus test GOP members give themselves, most of the appointments (Alito? Really? Scalia? Oh C’mon) were very political. It is OK to object for reasons, but with the exception of Lindsay Graham, the GOP seems to object just to object. The Democrats could nominate James Madison and the entire block of Republicans would object.

    “voted down his plan for Social Security privatization for purely political reasons, remember?”
    And I thought it was voted down because it was just stupid.

    “Whether or not your multiplier number is right (seems more than a tad high), unemployment benefits must be extended.”
    Actually, it’s not mine (I would have used a round number). The $1.63 is used by the CBO, BLS and a few others, like Bloomberg and Businessweek.

  196. 196 1george1

    I wish I could claim this as original.
    I suspect Sudds will agree, among others:

    ————-

    Sometime this year, we taxpayers will again receive another
    ‘Economic Stimulus’ payment.

    This is indeed a very exciting program, and I’ll explain it by
    using a Q & A format:

    Q. What is an ‘Economic Stimulus’ payment ?
    A. It is money that the federal government will send to taxpayers.

    Q.. Where will the government get this money ?
    A. From taxpayers.

    Q. So the government is giving me back my own money ?
    A. Only a smidgen of it.

    Q. What is the purpose of this payment ?
    A. The plan is for you to use the money to purchase a
    high-definition TV set, thus stimulating the economy.

    Q. But isn’t that stimulating the economy of China ?
    A. Shut up.

    Below is some helpful advice on how to best help the
    U.S. economy by spending your stimulus check wisely:

    * If you spend the stimulus money at Wal-Mart,
    the money will go to China or Sri Lanka .

    * If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.

    * If you purchase a computer, it will go to India , Taiwan or China .

    * If you purchase fruit and vegetables, it will go to Mexico ,
    Honduras and Guatemala ..

    * If you buy an efficient car, it will go to Japan or Korea ..

    * If you purchase useless stuff, it will go to Taiwan .

    * If you pay your credit cards off, or buy stock, it will go to
    management bonuses and they will hide it offshore.

    Instead, keep the money in America by:

    1) Spending it at yard sales, or

    2) Going to ball games, or

    3) Spending it on prostitutes, or

    4) Beer or

    5) Tattoos.

    (These are the only American businesses still operating in the U.S. )


    Conclusion:

    Go to a ball game with a tattooed prostitute
    that you met at a yard sale
    and drink beer all day !

    No need to thank me, I’m just glad I could be of help.

  197. 197 ronmoreau

    “I wish I could claim this as original.”

    “Sometime this year, we taxpayers will again receive another
    ‘Economic Stimulus’ payment.”

    “Below is some helpful advice on how to best help the
    U.S. economy by spending your stimulus check wisely:”

    SPEND IT IN THE ‘MOM AND POP’PLACES IN STRATFORD,CONNECTICUT.U.S.A.

  198. 198 1george1

    The POLITICAL PARTIES Town Council gave Home Depot 5 year
    tax break just before Lovell’s closed and haven’t helped Clough’s.

    Paradise Green now has 7-11 and not been helped by Marshall’s
    Complex, the Dock, or Walmart.

    Big Y is non union.
    Shop rite in non union.
    Stop n shop is union.

    What ever happened to cutrifello’s (spelling?)

    === Competative Mil Rates:

    If PENSIONS and HEALTH BENEFITS were where they should be,
    the Mil Rate would be 6 – 7 Mils lower.

    If AVCO and Economic development property transitioned expeditiously,
    with Sikorsky and Dressers and other large tax payers had help with
    good customers and subddividing, the Mil Rate would be 4-6 Mils lower.

    If UNFUNDED MANDATES, including ECS were properly funded the Mil Rate
    would be 4 – 6 Mils lower.

    If Stratford’s Mil Rate was 17 instead of 33 would we have LOST LESS
    Businesses and ATTRACTED more BUSINESSES?

    If Stratford didn’t have REMEDIATION ISSUES lingering and if TAXES were
    60 % of present rates, wouldn’t property taxes be lower because a
    wider and deeper Tax Base and higher property values, would lower
    the Mil Rates even more.

    See LAFFER CURVE.

    I buy American, where ever possible.
    Mom and Pop shops have many disadvantages, made worse by politics.

  199. 199 1george1

    Ron,

    I agree with your sentiment to buy mom and pop.
    It is too bad they have so many disadvantages.

    Your sentiment seems to agree with my friend’s forwarded
    commentary on the stimulus payment explained.

    It just gets soooo darn frustrating!

  200. 200 ronmoreau

    George,

    “What ever happened to cutrifello’s (spelling?)”

    They never went anywhere.The diner they had, 30 something years ago, has been Salerno’s since.The factory is still up the stairs.

    If everyone in Stratford spent all their money in Stratford….

    “I buy American, where ever possible.
    Mom and Pop shops have many disadvantages, made worse by politics.”

    I don’t know….The east coast is where this country started. It isn’t anything like the west coast.

    I think our past leaders, since 1649, have done that bad.

    Some kids just don’t want to make hot dogs the rest of their life.(Millers).

    My point was for everyone to spend your money in our town.

  201. 201 ronmoreau

    OOPS!

    “I (don’t) think our past leaders, since 1649, have done that bad.”

  202. 202 ronmoreau

    I’m waiting for a sniper shot from sudds.

  203. 203 1george1

    Ron,
    I meant Millers…. good pick up.

    Stratford is a nice town with great people.
    The RTC + DTC powers SUCK!

    Stratford’s Taxes are double what they could have been.

    Stratford has problems that should have been solved 25 years ago.
    Instead creatures in RTC + DTC team with Bridgeport + Feds deviants.

    Ron,
    The USA was built on WAR and CONQUEST.

    We do not recognize that as a bad thing, until we become victims.
    My uncle was a Sikorsky subcontractor, and was able to put 4 kids
    through college and may have been worth close to $ 1 million by the
    time he died 13 years ago.

    If it was not for attacks on me and my family, I could be worth millions
    instead of fighting politics. If the USA government was close to what it
    claims to be, I and most Americans would be far better off.
    We are still, so far, better off than most people in the world + history!

    Our country was conquored by pot + cocaine from 1967. Then the
    profits of So vietnam + Wars + ex-Mafia Cash cows.

    The end of all wars should have ended with cold war end in 1987.

    The USA STOCK MARKET was completely taken over by Oct 2008.
    Directly relates to OIL / GAS / COAL price manipulation after kited
    Stock and Real Estate Markets suckered many into liquidity from their
    Real Estate.
    The people who took over the USA waged economic, psychological,
    and proxy war on all of us, via Crime and legislative manipulations.
    The nuclear family was destroyed.
    Society is in chaos.
    From this type situations comes a CAESAR or a HITLER.

    It is going to be a terrible winter for many!

  204. 204 portia1776

    Sudds,

    I didn’t listen to what other people said; I was making a judgment based on the Republican kool-aid you poured on the finreg debate (for instance, calling the NYT the “Democratic Daily.”) Admittedly, your kool-aid tasted better than what cstratct or Jez were serving, but I’m a fan of much sturdier stuff: 19th-century vintage classical liberalism.

    Try I taste, I think you will like it. Just be forewarned that there are several known side effects, including: O dulce nomen Libertatis (you may have a strong desire to say this daily), a fortiori (in argument and life in general), loss of appetite (for the party line and spin in general), historia (manifesting in a strong desire to study economics and political theory), sapere aude-itis, licentia liquendi (and in everything else), nihil utile nisi quod honestum (Cicero said/had this problem, too), and American Founder/Framer-philia. If any of these lasts for more than four hours, get thee to a library or town hall meeting.

  205. 205 portia1776

    Ron and George,

    Clough’s and other local businesses continue to exist because they offer high quality goods, services, convenience, and/or better prices than their competitors, including the big box stores. In other words, they provide customers with value that cannot more profitably be found elsewhere. It is perfectly rational to “Buy Stratford” in such cases. What I am opposing is the uncritical “Buy Stratford” or “Buy American” rhetoric, which literally helps no one and hurts American workers, consumers, and the world (see discussion of the anti-free trade economic fallacies above).

  206. 206 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “Admittedly, your kool-aid tasted better than what cstratct or Jez were serving,”

    Ours tends to be a bit sweeter than yours.

    Unfortunately, your evangelical view of free trade justifies almost anything as long as it promotes profit.

    It is not hard to imagine that it would be wholly justifiable for an entrepreneur to manufacture goods and ship them overseas, while on the way picking up some human products (don’t you just hate the term “Human Resources”?) and selling those human products in, oh, say, Charleston SC for a couple of tons of cotton or tobacco and them maybe stopping in New York to offload the manufactured products. It’s free trade, you know.

  207. 207 portia1776

    Jez,

    “Ours tends to be a bit sweeter than yours.”

    True, but it has an awful aftertaste. Not completely unlike Sudds’ kool-aid, actually. And the hangover… loss of individual liberty and trillions of dollars in debt… is positively horrifying.

    “Unfortunately, your evangelical view of free trade justifies almost anything as long as it promotes profit.”

    Where did I say that? In my refutation of your “wage-slave” argument, I made it quite clear what the difference between a worker and slave are, correcting the Marxist muddle between the two — and quoted Frederick Douglas, who having lived as a slave and then having achieved freedom and become a choice-maker in the North’s free marketplace, can be considered an authoritative source. Yet, I suppose, it is a good sign that you’re making this dubious claim (as well as restoring to religious terminology), as it shows that no substantive ones remain in the breach.

    First on the “evangelical” word. What next, are you going to say that I’m a “free market fundamentalist?” I find it absolutely incredible that “Progressives” use such language when their economic beliefs are grounded on the weak foundations of superstition and ignorance — and are, in practice, horribly regressive — rather than the logic and the real-world proven results of lassiez-faire. No adherence to dogma or leaps of faith are required to understand the the free market; just a rational mind open to evidence. There are some points of economics that are at first blush counter-intuitive (e.g., David Ricardo’s concept of “comparative advantage”), but that is the nature of anything complex. This is why the economic consensus on positive (technical) analysis is unanimous on the overwhelming virtues of free trade, even while economists may disagree when doing normative (opinion-based) analysis on particular policies.

    Moreover, it is perplexing to see the slavery argument against free-market capitalism often made by socialists who, in point of fact, have enslaved, tortured, and murdered the most people in the history of the world in building their anti-individual “Workers’ Paradises” in the USSR and Warsaw Pact, Nazi Empire, North Korea, Cuba, Cambodia, and China (apparently the commission of mass crimes is an area in which socialist government do exceed capitalism with their superior efficiencies).

    Contrary to the mythology and the parochialism of the left and right, free-market capitalism does not posit an ends justifies the means worldview, wherein the “ends” are profits and the “means” are exploitation. There is the trader principle, mentioned in our prior discussion (i.e., free trade is always mutually beneficial, trading value for value, without coercion). There is also the classical liberal worldview that gave birth to free trade that, with its fundamental assertion of all human beings having inherent and inalienable rights, is unambiguously antithetical to the very notion of slavery.

    But I will not pull a Jean-Paul Statre or, as the leftist intellectual-on-duty, deny the testimony of survivors of the gulags (Soviet slave labor camps) on the grounds that somehow the concept of a camp philosophically didn’t jive with his conception of socialism (see Alain Besançon, A Century of Horrors). I don’t have to resort to theoretical speculation because not only is free-market capitalism and classical liberalism philosophically opposed to slavery, but the proponents of free trade — beginning with Adam Smith and continuing through Douglas, Lincoln (eventually), and the Radical Republicans, Twain and onward to Friedman, Hayk, von Mises, et al.– were among the staunchest slavery abolitionists.

    Scholars have taken note of the connection between the rise of capitalism and that of the organized anti-slavery movement, some contending that it aided the moral cause against slavery by advancing the concept of self-ownership; others claiming that free-market competition rendered the institution of slavery economically unsustainable, as it did to all the other vestiges of the feudalist and mercantilist doctrines. George Mason University economist and Cafe Hayek co-author Donald Boudreaux has written: “The fact is that slavery disappeared only as industrial capitalism emerged. And it disappeared first where industrial capitalism appeared first: Great Britain. This was no coincidence. Slavery was destroyed by capitalism.”

    Regardless of the nature of the connection, no one can credibly argue that capitalism and classical liberals were materially and intellectual anything but opposed to slavery. “Progressives,” on the other hand, have a lot to answer for: “When Bigots Become Reformers: The Progressive Era’s shameful record on race (http://reason.com/archives/2006/05/05/when-bigots-become-reformers/singlepage).”

    I’ll close with a truism inspired by George:

    Have you heard about the classical liberal conspiracy?
    No, what’s that?
    They want to take over the government and then have it largely leave law-abiding citizens alone.

    Now compare with collectivism: “Become a disposable drone in an anthill – sacrifice yourself for the “Greater Good” (under the caring guidance of [the] Supreme Leader) Discover the ant within (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh4Pu00fA44&)!”

  208. 208 portia1776

    Please allow me to amend an error: “but the proponents of free trade — beginning with Adam Smith… Lincoln (eventually), and the Radical Republicans….” That statement is correct with one exception and one qualification. Lincoln was something of a protectionist and imposed a massive tariff during the Civil War, perhaps out of this belief and/or just as likely, as a means of financing the cause. As for the Radical Republicans, they did not share the same unanimity on free trade as they did on abolishing slavery. What is clear is that Lincoln and the Radical Republicans brought the Republic much closer to the promise of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution in securing the individual liberty of millions of slaves, saving the souls of their masters, and, in the process, advancing the industrial capitalist system of the North over the agrarian feudal system of the South. Lincoln’s “new birth of freedom” and the Radical Republicans amendments to the Bill of Rights (including the magnificent 14th Amendment) attempted to secure Americans of African and all ancestries political and economic liberty, which he recognized could only ripen in a free market:

    “The prudent, penniless beginner in the world, labors for wages awhile, saves a surplus with which to buy tools or land for himself; then labors on his own account another while, and at length hires another new beginner to help him. This, say its advocates, is free labor — the just and generous, and prosperous system, which opens the way for all — gives hope to all, and energy, and progress, and improvement of condition to all.”

    In the main, my point remains intact: promoters of liberty do not distinguish between political and economic rights.

    Consider Moorfield Storey: “A founder of both the NAACP and the Anti-Imperialist League, Storey championed free trade, liberty of contract, and the gold standard alongside racial equality and non-interventionism. In 1917 he argued and won the NAACP’s first major victory before the Supreme Court, Buchanan v. Warley, relying on property rights to strike down a residential segregation law. As George Mason University law professor David Bernstein argues, ‘Buchanan almost certainly prevented governments from passing far harsher segregation laws [and] prevented residential segregation laws from being the leading edge of broader anti-negro measures.’ DuBois credited the decision with ‘the breaking of the backbone of segregation.’ [If only that had been enough to undo government-imposed and enforced “Jim Crow” segregation.]

    Now contrast that with the racial record of a celebrated leftist such as labor leader and Socialist presidential candidate Eugene V. Debs. While typically lionized as a champion of the poor and downtrodden, Debs also served as head of the American Railway Union, a discriminatory outfit that banned blacks from its ranks. And while he was apparently personally sympathetic to African Americans, during his 1912 presidential campaign Debs simply declared, ‘We have nothing special to offer the Negro.’ Yet this was during the era of lynchings, Jim Crow, and other acts of state criminality that specifically targeted the rights of blacks, a situation classical liberals like Storey clearly understood and effectively challenged (http://reason.com/archives/2009/07/08/classical-liberalism-and-the-f).”

    All this talk about the Old South brings this to mind:

    “I wanna go back to dixie
    I wanna be a dixie pixie
    And eat cornpone ’til it’s comin’ outta my ears
    I wanna talk with southern gentlemen
    And put my white sheet on again,
    I ain’t seen one good lynchin’ in years.
    The land of the boll weevil,
    Where the laws are medieval,
    Is callin’ me to come and nevermore roam.
    I wanna go back to the southland,
    That “y’all” and “shet-ma-mouth” land,
    Be it ever so decadent,
    There’s no place like home.”
    –Tom Lehrer, “I wanna go back to Dixie” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAwhC_btAUU)

  209. 209 1george1

    ron and portia

    Several years ago I bought a neat “throw” at Clough’s.
    It contained Stratford’s landmarks.

    I was also able to solve a unique problem with one of their products.

    Unfortunately, on many things they have difficulty being competative.

    It is a sad reality facing many small businesses.

    There are certain businesses like home construction, remodeling, that
    need to be local, when not economy to scale.
    Unfortunately, they depend on disposible income.

  210. 210 1george1

    Twice I tried to post about who created the Japanese and
    German Constitutions after WW II and related it the the Town
    Charter.

    I also write uncomplimentary things about
    Nazi – Socialist in name only

    Lenin, Stalin, Mao – Communists in name only

    Nominal Democrats, Republicans, Nobles and honorables.

    I also posted about Lincoln on
    Martial Law
    Suspension of Habeus Corpus
    ex-parte Milligan

    And I related them to Reagan-Bush / Bush Cheney creatures in
    the Justice Department and Military General Council about the
    coming suspension of the CONSTITUTION and MERCINARIES!

    I related those to changes in Town Charter, from which this blog
    was named

  211. 211 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “True, but it has an awful aftertaste.”

    It is an acquired taste. You must first develop a conscience.

    “in my refutation of your “wage-slave” argument,”

    I don’t recalled being “refuted”. However, you argument concluded that the essential difference was choice. ‘Would you rather be shot or hanged” is a choice too. But the result is the same. Twenty cents an hour for 18 hours or starvation is also a choice. Putting nets up to catch suicidal workers at Foxcon is also a choice.

    “Workers’ Paradises” in the USSR and Warsaw Pact, Nazi Empire, North Korea, Cuba, Cambodia, and China”

    Again we see that, according to you, all socialist systems are evil. No mention of Sweden, Norway, Germany, Denmark or any place else that has successfully implemented socialist policies. No matter that the phrase “workers paradise’ is simply a propaganda tool much like “free market” is used by Republicans.

    While I look forward to continued historical discussion, the essential flaws will probably remain the same. In complex heterogeneous societies, one method is not inherently evil and the other inherently good. Practically, it is a blend of solutions.

  212. 212 cstratct

    I haven’t been here in awhile but I couldn’t let this one go:

    “loss of individual liberty and trillions of dollars in debt… is positively horrifying.”

    Okay Portia, please elaborate. Pleases tell us what individual liberties you have lost under the Democratic administration.

    Last time I checked, it was Republicans (read conservatives) who were taking liberties with individual liberty. Do you remember the Patriot Act? How about abortion rights? Or gay marriage?

    It appears Republicans are REALLY good at denying “individual choice” (read liberty) on issues where religion or personal faith rather than reason dominate the agenda.

    So please, by all means, tell us what individual liberties you have been denied by Democrats.

    As for the “trillions of dollars in debt,” you’re really barking up the wrong tree. Clinton left office with a surplus, this is fact. George W. Bush (and many of his Republican predecessors) left office with massive debt. Again, easily verifiable fact. While both parties have contributed to the problem, the numbers show that the rate of deficit spending under Republican administrations clearly exceeds that of Democrats.

    All your pontificating notwithstanding, your can’t deny the facts.

  213. 213 1george1

    Hi Chris. Welcomed back!
    I was worried about you!
    I expected posts about Shakespeare Festival.
    Arts Commission did good.
    I congradulated Mayor Harkins on a nice “Blues on Beach.”

    Before I was radicalized, by attacks from managment and union in USPS
    and a wide range of government organizations and secret societies,
    once upon a time … I was a Liberal Conservative.

    Not a cop out.
    Liberal on way out things like social equality.
    > I didn’t march for civil rights. I would not join groups which had
    segregation or exclusiveness within their bylaws or in RTC case BUYLAWS 🙂
    I was Conservative on fiscal, military, and other things.
    I support our troops. I have an extremely different view on Wars + Crimes.

    Comments – not my preferred positions:
    (Clauswitz: “War is politics, just by other means.”)
    (Marx: Wars are deemed necessary for territorial expansion)
    (Galbraith: The Planning System’s largest Corporate entities must grow)
    (Sun Tsu: To take control of a country whole and intact is acme of skill.
    To kill many people and destroy much – is not good.)

    I despise Bush-Cheney and both political parties who are Democrat
    or Republican in “name only.”
    I think Obama is either a hypocrite, or has yet to play his real hand.

    I love our country.
    I hate the direction.

    I agree with many quotes of Portia and some of the economics.

    I believe whatever we see of the POLITICAL ACTORS are analogous to
    the “ALLEGORY OF THE CAVE….”

    Except instead of seeing Shadows on the Wall from campfires,
    we are shown Potemkin like personages on I-Monitors, TV, Print Media
    and hear audio programming, from insanely schizo mensamorons and their
    troglodyte minions many observation monitors, for handling / control!

  214. 214 portia1776

    Jez,

    “You must first develop a conscience” is beneath you. I have, to the best of my ability, honestly answered whatever you have thrown at me, which has been just about everything but the kitchen sink.

    It should be abundantly clear from those responses that I support the only moral political (classical liberalism) and economic (free-market capitalism) philosophies known to us. To quote my somewhat earlier self: “We both care about the weakest among us, but I recognize, in Milton Friedman’s phrase, that ‘in the only cases in which the masses have escaped the kind of grinding poverty you’re [Phil Donahue] talking about, the only cases in recorded history, is where they have had capitalism and largely free trade. If you want to know where the masses are worst off, it is exactly in the kinds of societies that depart from that… the record of history is absolutely crystal clear.'”

    “I don’t recalled being ‘refuted’” – You made some points, I refuted them, and then we moved on. Now you’re making new counterarguments. Let me be clear, here is their refutation: The essential difference is choice AND the freedom from coercion. Choosing between a job and no job, or a new industrial job or subsistence farming, is not equivalent to “Would you rather be shot of hanged?” (Who would be asking such a question?)

    “Twenty cents an hour for 18 hours or starvation is also a choice” – Exactly, which would you choose? Why do you want to deny that foreigner the opportunity to escape starvation? The other question I proposed to you previously was: “Without giving the Chinese village dweller the opportunity to climb the socioeconomic ladder (by, in effect, kicking her off the lowest rung), how do you expect China to ever achieve our living standards?” I also recommended getting some perspective on the “global rich list” courtesy of this charity’s website: http://www.globalrichlist.com/
    The poorest American is exceedingly rich by global standards – and, again, we didn’t reach this standard of living overnight or by way of socialistic policies.

    “Again we see that, according to you, all socialist systems are evil. No mention of Sweden, Norway, Germany, Denmark or any place else that has successfully implemented socialist policies.”

    This is just not true. And this will be the second time I am correcting you on this exact point. To quote myself from earlier: “‘(it seems Nazis and Soviets are the only ones who are Socialist)’ — To be fair, I didn’t say that. There are many different varieties of socialism, ranging from the milquetoast, Western European-style ‘welfare states’ to thuggish, regressive Chavez-style ‘21th Century Socialism,’ to Khmer Rouge or Maoist or Nazi, or Stalinist-style genocidal regimes. Using Hayek’s metaphor, conditions vary widely depending on how far along a state is on the ‘road to serfdom.’”

    In other words: there is a continuum. No one is claiming Sweden is a Stalinist regime because of adopting some socialist policies. It would be disingnious and ahistorical to do so. What I am saying, rather, is that such policies belong to a philosophy that is fundamentally anti-individual. Any abridgment of liberty, no matter how preferable at the time, may prove a dangerous precedent for the future. We previously agreed on the wisdom of giving up some liberties in order to live in a free society. I made the additional points that the Declaration of Independence and Constitution are the guarantors of our liberties, and any subsequent abridgments, as per the Founder’s warnings, are liable to lead to unlimited government.

    (The Swedes are a special case, btw. And, by no means, do they prove the “success” of socialist policies. The exact opposite, actually, as evident by Sweeden’s twenty years of socialist-induced economic stagnation after nearly a century of free-market capitalist growth, and now about twenty years of growth after market liberalization. Swedish economist Andreas Bergh has written a book called the “Capitalist Welfare State” to describe Sweden’s economic history. He notes its long free-trade capitalist period that transformed one of the poorest countries in Europe into the 4th richest in the world, as well as the uniqueness of its “welfare state” in that it is service-oriented, highly efficient, and largely does not undertake economic redistribution, as nearly all tax money is returned to the taxpayer. Friedman predicted years ago that such seeming paradoxes could exist provided the society was homogeneous. See an interview with Bergh: http://reason.tv/video/show/andreas-bergh-inteview).

    “No matter that the phrase ‘workers paradise’ is simply a propaganda tool much like “free market” is used by Republicans.”

    I don’t know the origin of the phrase, but a perusal of socialist sources will show it or some variant (workers’ utopia) is in accepted usage. You’re partially right, though, in that it is often deployed as a propaganda tool: socialists regularly mock free-market capitalist societies as “workers’ paradises.” Jez, are you more of a commissar of proper language and guardian against contradictions among the people than either the Socialist Worker or International Socialism: A Quarterly Journal of Socialist Theory?

    Here is an example from the latter:

    “North Korea is often in the news these days, albeit relegated to the inside pages of the papers, while English-language books on the country have proliferated in the last few years. But all these tend to approach North Korea from the perspective of the ‘Korea problem’, international relations theory or even a voyeuristic fascination with the last true Communist dictatorship cum workers’ paradise.”

    I do agree with you, though, that one should never trust Republicans talking about their “free market” principles. When pressed, such as President Bush, most have proven to have no idea what they are talking about.

    “In complex heterogeneous societies, one method is not inherently evil and the other inherently good. Practically, it is a blend of solutions.”

    Of course you’re correct. My main point is this: We know, to a greater degree than any other time in history, what works and what doesn’t. The evidence is not hidden in obscure journals. The VP of Cato, David Boaz, has pointed out that we have unfortunately had something near to real-world laboratory conditions, with control (same people, language, culture) and variable (political and economic philosophies), in the case of the East and West Germanies. (He could have used three more examples: the two Koreas, Hong Kong and the People’s Republic of China, or the People’s Republic under Mao and post-Mao). Those areas that embraced greater political freedoms and something approaching free-market capitalism dramatically outperformed their authoritarian and command economy counterparts.

  215. 215 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “Of course you’re correct.”

    I would much rather agree than disagree. Except for baseball caps and T-shirts, it is rare that one size fits all. The solutions for most problems are not a strict application of one’s preference, but the careful application of the proper dosage of many medications. Especially for an economy as sick as ours.

  216. 216 portia1776

    Cstract,

    I’m sorry that you’re late to the party, but glad you’re here now.

    Please go back and read what I have written above and on “The Parade to November” discussions. I would provide the links, but Jez informed me this is a capitalist blog and she will charge for release from the “spam prison” that some of my posts have suffered the indignity of finding themselves robotically placed in. As a rational, self-interested individual, I have adapted my previously link-rich posting style accordingly.

    Here is one link to get you started: https://stratfordcharter.wordpress.com/2010/08/13/the-parade-to-november/#comment-13281

    If you are expecting a “Progressive,” “Compassionate Conservative,” or mainstream Conservative Republican shill or a toady of President George W. Bush, you will be sorely disappointed.

    My position, to paraphrase the old Trot (as in Trotsky) line, is: “Neither Crawford nor Chicago, but International Liberalism.”

    This leads me to contend that President Clinton was vastly superior on economics than either Presidents Bush or Obama, on account of his moving the country in a free-market capitalist direction, and their numerous decisions to do the exact opposite.

    This leads me to condemn, with equal force, the violations of the Constitution in the spheres of individual (i.e., the civil liberties you mentioned) and economic liberty, whether committed by Democrats or Republicans, and usually both. I am Pro-Choice, and not only on a woman’s right to choose.

    This leads me to support Democrats and Republicans – I have noted several deserving of praise – who put policies consistent with the Constitution above partisan politics.

    Judging from your past oeuvre, we are probably in agreement on the inherent and inalienable individual civil liberties that Conservative Republicans (and Democrats as well as some “Progressives”) oppose. Unfortunately, it appears we probably disagree on the inherent and inalienable individual economic liberties that “Progressive” Democrats (and Republicans as well as some Conservatives) oppose. I hope to be proven wrong…

    One preemptive comment: As it should be clear from what I have written, I am not much for partisan blame games. Too much of what passes for discourse is argumentation of the “My party’s wrong but they were worse” variety (consider almost all discussions of TARP, bailouts, fin reg, and the so-called stimuli measures). This is a logical fallacy that obscures the central point that bad policy is bad policy, regardless of the offender’s political affiliation. Just because the Patriot Act was originated with President Bush (and was approved almost unanimously by both parties) does not excuse him or them the crime. Similarly, saying as much does not excuse President Obama signing, or majority Democrats and minority Republicans overwhelming supporting, his and their extension of the Patriot Act (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0301/Obama-signs-Patriot-Act-extension-without-reforms ).

  217. 217 cstratct

    Portia,

    We may be in agreement on what you call “individual civic liberties,” but nowhere in your response was there a specific, coherent description of your so-called “inherent and inalienable indivdual economic liberties” and how they have been “lost.” What is it exactly that you would like to purchase that you are unable to purchase because of these supposed restrictions? Perhaps you would like some tainted seafood from the Gulf. Or maybe some salmonella-tainted eggs from a distributor with multiple safety violations to his record. How about restricted pharmaceuticals that can cause any number of pesky side-effects, like heart attacks, stroke or death. Or possibly you would like to buy some financial derivatives comprised of sub-prime mortgages. I understand they were all the rage a couple years ago.

    It is easy to make broad, sweeping alliterative statements but they need some supporting evidence.

    Now I certainly don’t subscribe to the concept that all Democrats are good and all Republicans are bad. But considering where Republican administrations and majorities have taken us during their reigns, I prefer (in most cases) to cast my lot with Democrats. I’m a fan of Ayn Rand and agree with her philosophy of personal responsibility but not the laissez faire capitalist ideals that although they make for intersting reading, are hardly applicable in the real world. Not all actors in the system will behave responsibly, rendering laissez faire capitalism as failed an ideal as communism.

  218. 218 portia1776

    Cstract,

    It is a shame that you have not only come late to the party but also empty-handed.

    I would have thought better of you than to talk past me. I will extend you the benefit of the doubt to not yet having read my posts. In any case, that is the only plausible explanation for this kind of absurd diatribe masquerading as a response, including such claims as “Not all actors in the system will behave responsibly, rendering laissez faire capitalism as failed an ideal as communism.” Since it is rather important, I will respond to this point and leave your questions looking for non-existent targets to self-destruct upon reading.

    I defy you to show where I have written or what principle within classical liberalism or laissez-fiare capitalism requires that “all actors will behave responsibly.”

    Marxism, at least theoretically, does indeed require that all actors are good (or can be made good through education or re-education) and will behave responsibly, as defined by the common good of the proletariat. Of course, we know in practice that social loafing and selfishness and greed and individualism are never truly overcome, no matter how many are killed or tortured in the attempt.

    Lassiez-faire, philosophically and in practice, makes no such mistake, postulating instead that individuals may be good or bad, but, in all cases, are self-interested.

    According to classical liberals and free-market economists, in light of this reality, the the single best way to prevent political and financial abuses is to allow for a free marketplace for candidates, ideas, products, and services wherein fierce competition will ensure proper checks and balances or, in Madison’s phrase, that “ambition must be made to counteract ambition.” The Constitution’s division of political powers among diverse and competing institutions and individual voters, as well as our adversarial judicial system, are outgrowths of this fundamental insight on human nature.

    I find myself in agreement with your (now ironic) statement that “It is easy to make broad, sweeping alliterative statements but they need some supporting evidence.” Not one iota of evidence to support any of your claims is present in your post. By comparison, everything I have said is rooted in reason and well-sourced.

    In an effort to further real dialogue, here are four suggestions:

    1.) Why don’t you defend one or more of the State of Connecticut’s interventions in our economy cited in this post: https://stratfordcharter.wordpress.com/2010/08/13/the-parade-to-november/#comment-13236 ?

    (And, no, attacking the source of the list, Martha Dean, will not count as a legitimate response. I want to know why, for example, we can buy liquor on a Monday but not a Sunday, or why the State protects monopolies in livery services, liquor distribution, gambling, telecommunications, energy, etc… against the best interests of Connecticut consumers and taxpayers).

    2.) Why don’t you explain why free-market advocate Rep. Henry Cuellar (Democrat-Texas), chairman and founder of the Congressional Pro-Trade caucus, is wrong when he says “that the advancement of new trade policies will expand opportunities for American businesses, workers and farmers”? President Obama and “Progressives” (as well as a number of Conservatives) are violently opposed to all of the new free trade agreements that Rep. Cuellar has been advancing.

    3.) Why don’t you offer an actual defense of the overall “Progressive” economic programme of Presidents Bush and Obama, specifically by refuting their one line reduction (courtesy of CATO economist Daniel Mitchell): “taking money out of the economy’s left pocket and putting it in the economy’s right pocket doesn’t magically increase prosperity”?

    If you’re not up to arguing the theoretical, here is a practical example, which I cited previously. Tell me why President President Obama’s administration was right to “rescue” a failed auto company, GM, with upwards of 50 billion taxpayer dollars in order to have that now-government run entity produce an overpriced, insufficiently “green” (in their own words) car, the $40,000+ Chevy Volt, which only “young, very high income individuals” will want or be able to afford. Arise, ye Yup’pies of affectation!

    (Here is a hint at the correct answer, also written by me previously: By bailing out wealthy failed executives (brother, can you spare a few billion?), President Obama and “Progressives” in Congress have said, we’re all supposed to benefit. How is that working out? The rich losers stay rich or get richer, government gets more powerful, and we get poorer, in wealth, freedom, and opportunity).

    3.) Finally, why don’t you tell us where economics professor Russell Roberts, in his testimony before Congress, is wrong. To save time, I have re-posted the transcript excerpt and link to the full video below:

    “Americans are angry about executive compensation.

    Rightfully so.

    The executives at General Motors and Chrysler don’t deserve to make a lot of money. They made bad products that people didn’t want to buy.

    The executives on Wall Street don’t deserve to make a lot of money. They were reckless. They borrowed huge sums to make bets that didn’t pay off. And they wasted trillions of dollars of precious capital, funneling it into housing instead of health innovation or high mileage cars or a thousand investments more productive than more and bigger houses.

    Everyday folks who are out of work through no fault of their own want to know why people who made bad decisions not only have a job but a big salary to go with it.
    No wonder they’re angry at Wall Street.But if we keep getting angry at Wall Street, we’ll miss the real source of the problem. It’s right here. In Washington.

    We are what we do. Not what we wish to be. Not what we say we are. But what we do. And what we do here in Washington is rescue big companies and rich people from the consequences of their mistakes. When mistakes don’t cost you anything, you do more of them.

    When your teenager drives drunk and wrecks the car, and you keep give him a do-over—repairing the car and handing him back the keys—he’s going to keep driving drunk. Washington keeps giving bad banks and Wall Street firms a do-over. Here are the keys. Keep driving. The story always ends with a crash.

    Capitalism is a profit and loss system. The profits encourage risk-taking. The losses encourage prudence. Is it a surprise that when the government takes the losses, instead of the investors, that investing gets less prudent? If you always bail out lenders, is it surprising that firms can borrow enormous amounts of money living on the edge of insolvency?

    I’m mad at Wall Street. But I’m a lot madder at the people who gave them the keys to drive our economy off a cliff. I’m mad at the people who have taken hundreds of billions of taxpayer money and given it to some of the richest people in human history.

    I’m mad at President Bush and President Obama and Secretary Paulson and Secretary Geithner and Chairman Bernanake. And I’m mad at Congress. You helped risk-takers continue to expect that the rules that apply to the rest of us don’t apply to people with the right connections.

    You have saved the system, but it’s not a system worth saving. It’s not capitalism but crony capitalism.

    F. A. Hayek, the Nobel Laureate economist, said: “The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.”

    Let’s get the government out of the auto business, out of the banking business and out of the compensation design business. We need explicit timetables to disengage from government ownership including a plan for how the Federal Reserve will draw down its balance sheet. Most of all, we need to stop trying to imagine we can design housing markets and mortgage markets and financial markets and compensation.

    I want my country back.

    I want a country where responsibility still means something. Where rich and poor, Main Street and Wall Street live by the same rules… We just need to take the crony out of crony capitalism so we can get back to the real thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCGHPNK-HIU&feature=related).”

  219. 219 jezebel282

    “It is a shame that you have not only come late to the party but also empty-handed.”

    Uh oh…here we go.

  220. 220 cstratct

    Don’t worry Jez, I have neither the time nor desire to engage in an extended debate on this.

    To quote Shakespeare, “And then is heard no more: it is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.” Now let me start by saying I AM NOT calling Portia an idiot. He/she may be well-spoken, but the arguments Portia puts forth, while effective at espousing his/her political or economic philosophy, still have more holes than swiss cheese.

    Portia appears to inhabit a theoretical world where the invisible hand of the market cures all. Great in conservative academic circles, useless in the real world. We can cite example after example of failed market-driven policies, but that won’t change Portia’s committed stance. I can also cite failed cases of government intervention. I accept both as ongoing realities, and a balance is what I would prefer. Not the polarizing, all or nothing that often becomes the debate du jour.

    Take this example. Portia says “Capitalism is a profit and loss system. The profits encourage risk-taking. The losses encourage prudence.” The problem with this statement? Quite simply, if the losses are not your own (i.e. stock brokers who are getting rich by gambling other people’s money, but have no financial responsibilty for the losses incurred) the profit side will encourage risk-taking, but there are no financial losses for the brokers, only the investors, so no prudence will be shown.

    Or take this statement. “Tell me why President President Obama’s administration was right to “rescue” a failed auto company, GM, with upwards of 50 billion taxpayer dollars in order to have that now-government run entity produce an overpriced, insufficiently “green” (in their own words) car, the $40,000+ Chevy Volt, which only “young, very high income individuals” will want or be able to afford.”

    First, GM makes a lot more than just the Volt. Second, were GM to collapse, thousands of jobs would be lost, not only at GM, but at distributors and suppliers all throughout the system. There are times when it is necessary for the government to step in and assist so that the citizens are not irreparably harmed, either financially or otherwise.

    Again, in the theoretical world Portia appears to live in, the “market” will take care of everything. But we don’t inhabit that world, and as I said before, “Not all actors in the system will behave responsibly, rendering laissez faire capitalism as failed an ideal as communism.” By the time bad actors in a laissez faire capitalist system are eliminated, the damage has already been done. Prime example: Wall Street brokers. It wasn’t regulation or government intervention that caused the meltdown and excessive risk-taking, it was the lack of potential punishment and oversight. There were plenty of bad actors (Madoff ring a bell?) and no one tending the store.

    Portia, have fun with your theoretical constructs. It’s clear you enjoy intellectual discourse as much as the rest of us. But don’t pat yourself on the back too hard. Your opinions are just that, opinions, just like mine. I don’t make any claim to having answers, despite what some on here may think. I present as much evidence as I can find time to obtain to support my positions. And I try to work in the world as it exists, not in a theoretical construct that is unattainable.

  221. 221 1george1

    Portia: “I support the only moral political (classical liberalism)
    and economic (free-market capitalism) philosophies known to us.
    GEM: The USA is a “melting pot” and “salad bowl” not only of race,
    color, creed, religion, sex, etc. but also political and economic
    systems.
    The USA is a REGULATED COMMAND ECONOMY, with niches of
    free market capitalism, whereas keynesian and monatarism play
    interwoven points and counterpoints depending on macro and
    micro economic decisions, even from within departments and
    geographic entities.

    Portia: “Would you rather be shot of hanged?”
    GEM: Not want death by BUNGO

    There are many correct points by Portia, Jez, and Chris.
    Other points are provably wrong.
    Majority of facts and opinions depend on circumstances, which is
    one of Keynes’s points about economics, which goes back to Marx’s
    references about Hegelian DIALECTICS.

    Hegelian DIALECTICS, explained:
    > Jimmy Carter decision solves a PROBLEM
    > Jimmy Carter decision solving that PROBLEM, causes 12 more problems.

    I pick on Jimmy Carter, a former USN officer on a Nuclear Sub because
    he may actually be something rare in politics …. an honorable man.

  222. 222 1george1

    Portia:
    Contrary to the mythology and the parochialism of the left and right,
    free-market capitalism does not posit an ends justifies the means
    worldview, wherein the “ends” are profits and the “means” are
    exploitation.

    Yakoff Smirnoff:
    “Capitalism is exploitation of man by man.
    In communist socialism, it is the other way around.”

    Portia:
    There is the trader principle, mentioned in our prior discussion
    (i.e., free trade is always mutually beneficial, trading value for
    value, without coercion).

    George:
    “Truly free trade, should be honest and mutually beneficial.”
    Portia post is idealistic – not real world in politics or trade,
    in too many instances.

    Portia:
    There is also the classical liberal worldview that gave birth to
    free trade that, with its fundamental assertion of all human
    beings having inherent and inalienable rights, is unambiguously
    antithetical to the very notion of slavery.

    George:
    I could not agree more with this concept, brilliantly posted.

    Slavery exists in many forms:
    De facto Slavery.
    Dependency on Revenue
    Debt
    Drugs – Alcohol, Tobbaco, Controlled Substance
    Misinformation – deception
    Peer pressure
    Captives of investments like time, pensions, stocks, property.

    The French word for huge house is Chateau
    or C – hate – au
    c = see and au symbol of GOLD

    Translates Chateau to
    SEE – HATE GOLD.

    Now for SUDDS, we do the same for Chardonay
    SEE – HARD ON – AY or is it NAY – I am unsure of the spelling 😉

  223. 223 1george1

    It scares me that Nietzche became a philosopher after he was a
    PHILOLOGIST

    (WIKIPEDIA)
    Philology is the humanistic study of historical linguistics,
    considering both form and meaning in linguistic expression,
    combining linguistics and literary studies.

    Classical philology is the philology of the Greek, Latin and
    Sanskrit languages.
    GEM: GORBACHEV PERES TROIKA = BROTHERS 3 = Latin, Greek, Hebrew
    or the Sankrit (Indo-Aryan) Languages.

    Classical philology is historically primary, originating in European
    Renaissance Humanism, but was soon joined by philologies of other
    languages both European (Germanic, Celtic, Slavistics, etc.) and
    non-European (Sanskrit, Oriental languages such as Persian or
    Arabic, Chinese etc.).
    Indo-European studies involves the philology of all Indo-European
    languages as comparative studies.

    Any classical language can be studied philologically, and indeed
    describing a language as “classical” is to imply the existence of a
    philological tradition associated with it.

    Because of its focus on historical development (diachronic analysis),
    philology came to be used as a term contrasting with linguistics.
    This is due to a 20th century development triggered by Ferdinand
    de Saussure’s insistence on the importance of synchronic analysis,
    and the later emergence of structuralism and Chomskian linguistics
    with its heavy emphasis on syntax.

    (WIKIPEDIA)
    Grimm’s law (also known as the First Germanic Sound Shift or the
    Rask’s-Grimm’s rule), named for Jacob Grimm, is a set of statements
    describing the inherited Proto-Indo-European (PIE) stops as they
    developed in Proto-Germanic (PGmc, the common ancestor of the
    Germanic branch of the Indo-European family) in the 1st millennium BC.

    It establishes a set of regular correspondences between early Germanic
    stops and fricatives and the stop consonants of certain other centum
    Indo-European languages
    (Grimm used mostly Latin and Greek for illustration).

    As it is presently formulated, Grimm’s Law consists of three parts,
    which must be thought of as three consecutive phases in the
    sense of a chain shift:

    Proto-Indo-European voiceless stops change into voiceless fricatives.
    Proto-Indo-European voiced stops become voiceless stops.
    Proto-Indo-European voiced aspirated stops become voiced fricatives; ultimately, in most Germanic languages these voiced fricatives become voiced stops.

    The chain shift can be abstractly represented as:

    bʰ → b → p → f
    dʰ → d → t → θ
    gʰ → g → k → x
    gʷʰ → gʷ → kʷ → xʷ

    Here each sound moves one position to the right to take on its
    new sound value.

    The voiced aspirated stops may have first become voiced fricatives
    before hardening to the voiced unaspirated stops “b”, “d”, and “g”
    under certain conditions; however, some linguists dispute this.
    See Proto-Germanic phonology.

    Grimm’s law was the first non-trivial systematic sound change to be
    discovered in linguistics; its formulation was a turning point in the
    development of linguistics, enabling the introduction of a rigorous
    methodology to historical linguistic research.

    The “law” was discovered by Friedrich von Schlegel in 1806 and
    Rasmus Christian Rask in 1818. It was elaborated
    (i.e. extended to include standard German) in 1822 by Jacob Grimm,
    the elder of the Brothers Grimm, in his book Deutsche Grammatik.

    (WIKIPEDIA)
    The Latin alphabet, also called the Roman alphabet, is the most
    widely used alphabetic writing system in the world today.
    It evolved from the western variety of the Greek alphabet called
    the Cumaean alphabet, which was borrowed and modified by the
    Etruscans who ruled early Rome, whose alphabet was then adapted
    and further modified by the ancient Romans to write the Latin language.

    The Ancient Greek alphabet was in turn based upon the Phoenician
    alphabet. From the Cumae alphabet, the Etruscan alphabet was derived
    and the Romans eventually adopted
    21 of the original 26 Etruscan letters:

    Archaic Latin alphabet A B C D E F G H I K L M N O P Q R S T V X

    The letter C was the western form of the Greek gamma, but it was
    used for the sounds /ɡ/ and /k/ alike, possibly under the influence
    of Etruscan, which lacked any voiced plosives.

    Later, probably during the 3rd century BC, the letter Z — unneeded
    to write Latin proper — was replaced with the new letter G,
    a C modified with a small vertical stroke, which took its place in the
    alphabet.
    GEM: MASONS please take NOTE that your “PE” or G is fiction.

    From then on, G represented the voiced plosive /ɡ/, while C was
    generally reserved for the voiceless plosive /k/.
    The letter K was used only rarely, in a small number of words such
    as Kalendae, often interchangeably with C.

    After the Roman conquest of Greece in the first century BC,
    Latin adopted the Greek letters Y and Z
    (or readopted, in the latter case) to write Greek loanwords,
    placing them at the end of the alphabet.
    An attempt by the emperor Claudius to introduce three additional
    letters did not last.
    Thus it was that during the classical Latin period the Latin alphabet
    contained 23 letters:

    It was not until the Middle Ages that the letter W
    (originally a ligature of V and V) was added to the Latin alphabet,
    to represent sounds from the Germanic languages w
    hich did not exist in medieval Latin, and only after the Renaissance
    did the convention of treating I and U as vowels,
    and J and V as consonants, become established.
    Prior to that, the former had been merely allographs of the latter.

    Hmmmmm what historic names start with W or J?

    Jesus
    Julius

    Washington
    Wellington

    WIKIPEDIA
    The Cyrillic alphabet is derived from the Greek uncial script,
    augmented by ligatures and consonants from the older Glagolitic
    alphabet for sounds not found in Greek.

    Tradition holds that Cyrillic and Glagolitic were formalized either
    by the two Greek brothers born in Thessaloniki,
    Saints Cyril and Methodius who brought Christianity to the southern Slavs,
    or by their disciples.

    Paul Cubberly posits that while Cyril may have codified and expanded
    Glagolitic, it was his students at the Preslav Literary School in the
    First Bulgarian Empire that developed Cyrillic from Greek in the 890s
    as a more suitable script for church books.

    Later the alphabet spread among other Slavic peoples –
    Russians, Serbs and others, as well as among non-Slavic Vlachs
    and Moldavians.

    As the Cyrillic alphabet spread throughout the East and South Slavic
    territories, it was adopted for writing local languages, such as Old Russian.
    Its adaptation to the characteristics of local languages led to the
    development of its many modern variants, below.

    The Glagolitic alphabet was suited to match the specific features of
    the Slavic language and its descendant alphabet, the Cyrillic Alphabet.

    Throughout history languages were systemetized and translated.
    Things get lost in translations.
    Some things are universal.

    —-

    WIKIPEDIA
    Dunstan Baby Language is a claim about infantile speech patterns
    and language acquisition in humans.
    The claim is that across cultures and linguistic groups there are
    five sounds, each with a meaning, that are used by infants during
    the beginning of the language acquisition period.
    The hypothesis was developed by Australian former mezzo-soprano,
    Priscilla Dunstan, and has been featured on the Oprah Winfrey Show.
    Dunstan’s claims have not been scientifically validated.

    WIKIPEDIA – OBS.ORG
    I can not now find the site – but PBS ORG contends there is a universal
    capability in babies to learn ANY Language in their first 6 months.
    (tower of babel)

    Then the brain changes, for necessary other developments.

    GOOGLE – Lie to Me
    Certain universal, facial, body, voice, etc signals – regardless of culture.

    Earth’s people have homogeneus brain codes, which become diversified.

    POINT:
    Free will and diversity in USA and around the world are g-d’s will or
    design?

  224. 224 portia1776

    “I AM NOT calling Portia an idiot.” – Well, it’s very nice of you do deny the plain meaning of the quote. Because, you know, ad hominem is the lowest form of argumentation. Oh, wait… “his/her political or economic philosophy, still have more holes than swiss [sic] cheese.”

    As noted above, Shakespeare, “Capitalism’s Poet Laureate,” is not your best source, anyway.

    Seems the theoretical economics dealt with in his writing (see: Frederick Turner’s “Shakespeare’s Twenty-First Century Economics: The Morality of Love and Money”) was based on real-world experience: “Shakespeare himself was a large investor in bonds and other interest-bearing securities. His famous words ‘neither a borrower nor a lender be’ are put in the mouth of the ‘wretched, rash, intruding fool’ Polonius, the time-pleasing state bureaucrat in Hamlet who so richly deserves his rather nasty fate…”

    But let me deal with this allegation forthrightly. There is nothing “conservative” about my positions. As the feeble attempt to banish me to some theoretical world, the use of this politically loaded word is meant as a dodge, to allow you to evade having to critically engage what I have written. For the record, you have failed to produce any evidence, theoretical or real, that lassiez-faire, and not Marxisim, requires that “all actors in the system will behave responsibly.”

    This offering is at least a little more circumspect. You conspicuously offer no principled defense of the “Progressive” interventionist economic policies of Presidents Bush and Obama, which is actually to your credit. What is not, however, is your approval of expediency and necessity, the same excuses that justified the inappropriately named “Patriot Act.” At least in that case, those rationales were initially arguable, given the rush to pass something, anything, so quickly after 9/11 (of course, such meager justifications can no longer be sallied forth to exonerate President Obama and the Democratic-majority Congress of their re-authorization of the “Patriot Act” without amendment – they have had ample time and failed to restore our lost individual civil liberties).

    One cannot fall back on “expediency and necessity” in the case of economic decision making. Does it make sense to say: We have a catastrophic market failure on our hands so let’s do what we know, from ample experience, will only worsen and prolong the crisis?

    That, in effect, is what Presidents Bush and Obama have been doing; the former even said this explicitly: “I abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system,” (i.e., the “Compassionate Conservative” had no principles to begin with). He backed up this assertion by hiring 91,196 new regulatory bureaucrats (Clinton had reduced the total number by 969). Economist Veronique de Rugy explains that:

    “Some people still seem to think Republicans take a hands-off approach to regulation, probably because the party is always quick to criticize the burdens regulations place on businesses. But Republican rhetoric doesn’t always match Republican policy.

    The Bush team has spent more taxpayer money on issuing and enforcing regulations than any previous administration in U.S. history. Between fiscal year 2001 and fiscal year 2009, outlays on regulatory activities, adjusted for inflation, increased from $26.4 billion to an estimated $42.7 billion, or 62 percent. By contrast, President Clinton increased real spending on regulatory activities by 31 percent, from $20.1 billion in 1993 to $26.4 billion in 2001.”

    President Bush’s statements and actions encapsulates the brave new world you grandly imagine yourself living in, where carte blanche should be given to politicians to command and control the economy under pretense of there being no other option. There is indeed only one option to achieve recovery and prosperity, and that is to restore our lost economic liberties by disengaging the government from our economy and returning to the free-market capitalism that previously served generations of Americans so well.

    As previously noted: Guy Sorman, writing in City Journal, provides a list of positive propositions that “Almost all top economists—those who are recognized as such by their peers and who publish in the leading scientific journals—would endorse them (the exceptions are those like Joseph Stiglitz and Jeffrey Sachs, whose public pronouncements are more political than scientific).”

    The list is as follows:
    1. The market economy is the most efficient of all economic systems.
    2. Free trade helps economic development.
    3. Good institutions help development.
    4. The best measure of a good economy is its growth.
    5. Creative destruction is the engine of economic growth.
    6. Monetary stability, too, is necessary for growth; inflation is always harmful.
    7. Unemployment among unskilled workers is largely determined by how much labor costs.
    8. While the welfare state is necessary in some form, it isn’t always effective.
    9. The creation of complex financial markets has brought about economic progress.
    10. Competition is usually desirable (http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_3_economics.html).

    In a follow-up article, “Economics Still Doesn’t Lie”, Sorman continues:

    “Economists continue to have lively quarrels, but these disputes generally take place within certain parameters. For an economist to contest the principle of free trade or to recommend inflation, for example, would be comparable to a physician’s practicing bloodletting.

    Even the American economists praised in Europe—such as Paul Krugman, because he is a social-democrat, and Joseph Stiglitz, because he opposes globalization—remain within the paradigm: Stiglitz does not deny the efficiency of free trade in alleviating poverty, and Krugman does not propose to replace capitalism with socialism. In their academic work as well as their public statements, both emphasize the imperfections of the market—but no economist, even the most libertarian, would deny these.

    Today’s debate between free-marketeers and interventionists concerns not the existence of market imperfections but how best to address them—how the government should regulate the economy. Interventionists expect governments to reduce market imbalances, among which the lavish bonuses paid to financial traders are a particularly visible example. Market advocates don’t deny these imbalances, but they doubt that governments are any more rational than markets. Markets produce bubbles, but governments make war. Capitalists are moved by unreasonable passions, but are politicians and bureaucrats any wiser or more disinterested? Free-market economists… thus favor improving the quantity and quality of information available in markets. From their point of view, speculative bubbles arise not from a lack of regulation but from a shortage of information, which leads to abuses by insiders.”

    I have provided the above to elucidate what the “dismal science” actually teaches us.

    “Portia says ‘Capitalism is a profit and loss system…’” – While flattering, I didn’t say that. Economics professor Russell Roberts did, as clearly noted above.

    “Quite simply, if the losses are not your own (i.e. stock brokers who are getting rich by gambling other people’s money, but have no financial responsibilty [sic] for the losses incurred)” – I accept your apology. Seriously, this is an affirmation not refutation of what Professor Roberts said before Congress. Personal responsibility matters. Incentives matter. Checks and balances matter. Those with skin in the game are more likely to behave responsibly. We should not trust politicians and bureaucrats precisely because they have everything to gain and nothing to lose by meddling in the economy on behalf of their favored special interests (see: https://stratfordcharter.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-13218 ).

    George your quote on “exploitation”, as Michael Moore’s movie, only makes sense if talking of “crony capitalism” or “corporate socialism.”

    “First, GM makes a lot more than just the Volt.” – True. But one of the central arguments made for “rescuing” the company, at a staggering cost to taxpayers, was the Volt, which we were promised by this administration would reinvigorate GM and the American auto industry. Instead, as the President’s own auto task force recently noted: “While the Volt holds promise, it likely will be too expensive to be commercially successful in the short term.” This comes on the heels of the other bad news: the Volt is not “green” enough, only rich people will want or be able to afford it, and GM is projecting a loss on each and every car sold.

    “Second, were GM to collapse, thousands of jobs would be lost, not only at GM, but at distributors and suppliers all throughout the system. There are times when it is necessary for the government to step in and assist so that the citizens are not irreparably harmed, either financially or otherwise.” – Right, just like when Conservative Margaret Thatcher had her government step in to patriotically “save or create” hundreds of thousands of jobs at British Leyland and its distributors and suppliers and retailers. How did that work out? (Nelson Schwartz, A British Lesson on Auto Bailouts, New York Times, 17 November 2008):

    “A faltering auto giant whose brands are synonymous with the open road. Hundreds of thousands of unionized workers with powerful political backers. An urgent plea for the government to write a virtual blank check.

    This is not the story of Ford and General Motors, but British Leyland, a car company that went through £11 billion of inflation-adjusted British taxpayer money, or $16.5 billion, in the ’70s and ’80s before going out of business. All that is left of the company now are memories of cars like the Triumph, and a painful lesson in the limited effectiveness of bailouts.

    ‘The British Leyland experience is a relevant and cautionary one,’ said John Casesa, a principal in the automotive consulting firm Casesa Shapiro Group in New York. “The government got in the business of trying to make a winner out of a structurally flawed company. That’s the risk in the U.S. as well.””

    “Again, in the theoretical world Portia appears to live in, the ‘market’ will take care of everything. But we don’t inhabit that world.” – Does Britain exist outside of your supposedly real-world? Is Ford’s success, after refusing a government bailout, also imaginary? Are their hundreds of thousands of phantom American workers earning their livelihoods in the auto industry designing, building, marketing, supplying parts for, and selling “foreign” cars on American soil? Just because the government intervenes does not mean it will be successful. Everything we know about economics says it probably will not be. By your logic, we all would have been better off if the government had intervened to save the typewriter industry.

    As I have written previously: “creative destruction is certainly traumatic for the person put out of work, as it was for the Luddites, who appealed to their government to outlaw the newfangled sewing machines that were costing them jobs. But such transitions are necessary for progress. And jobs aren’t stagnant in a robust, free economy. The Luddities found new work. When Americans switched from typewriters to computers, the myriad workers displaced did likewise…” The British workers at Leyland similarly found jobs after the government failed, at staggering cost to taxpayers, to “save” a company that was not worth saving.

    “But we don’t inhabit that world, and as I said before, ‘Not all actors in the system will behave responsibly, rendering laissez faire capitalism as failed an ideal as communism.’” – just because you repeat a fallacy, already debunked above, does not make it any truer. Again, I defy you to show where I have written or what principle within classical liberalism or laissez-faire capitalism requires that “all actors will behave responsibly.”

    Let’s try this again: Lassiez-faire, philosophically and in practice postulates that individuals may be good or bad, but, in all cases, are self-interested.

    “By the time bad actors in a laissez faire capitalist system are eliminated, the damage has already been done…” – Yes, and the result of having all powerful government eliminate all bad (and, in the process, good) actors in the private sector is… right, allowing all the bad actors to exist only in government. Get real!

    “Your opinions are just that, opinions, just like mine. I don’t make any claim to having answers, despite what some on here may think… – I never claimed otherwise. But there is no equivalence between us. My opinions are based on facts and grounded in reason and an unrivaled moral tradition of individual political and economic liberty. I also try my best to be fair to individuals and viewpoints that I disagree with. I don’t think anyone can claim otherwise of what I have written of Marxist theory. While no fan of Michael Moore or Karl Marx, I have quoted both favorably in my discussions with Jez and George.

    In the one instance where you reference someone, Ayn Rand, you cited her for authority and then went on to contradict everything she ever taught. There are many legitimate criticisms to be made of Rand and her “Objectivist” philosophy, but your unreasoned slander of lassiez-faire is not one of them. Your opinions, moreover, are oblivious to reason, based on economic fallacies, and grounded in expediency. I would say you do a disservice to your philosophy, but you don’t appear to have enough understanding of the issues to choose one.

  225. 225 jezebel282

    From George:

    Neither Irene nor Ben appreciated it when I pointed out they were
    hires of a POLITICALLY CONSTITUTED ORGANIZATION the Board of Ed.

    Barnhart, Feeney, and Branyan were hires of a POLITICALLY CONSTITUTED ORGANIZATION.

    Each oversees and can “influence” hires and choose promotions.

    Point? > what is true of EMS, is true of the Town and BoE.

    The BoE is not about Education.
    It is about J O B S, P A Y, B E N E F I T S, and PARTY LOYALTY
    > Tammany Hall or Country Club, there is no difference.
    You do as you are told …

    Or you pay a price …

    Having Branyan move to Greenwich will have a ripple effect.

    Irene swept out O’Conner’s people over about a year, who landed in good
    positions elsewhere. Partly due to competence and very much related to
    political connections and professional connections.

    The same way my family and I have been attacked, other critics and whistle
    blowers and families have been attacked in the past … and I fear in future.

    Party Politics is a ZERO SUM GAME.
    Either you are for us?
    Or you are against us!
    No middle ground.

    They do NOT even contemplate anything about UNAFFILIATED.

    They NEVER recognize FLAWS in their PLANS, nor that they could be
    far better off, with less greed, reprisals, and micromanaging, which
    creates enemies!

    IF the DEMONcrats and RepubliCONNartists turned loose the AMERICAN
    PEOPLE and helped increase EVERYONE’S WEALTH
    1 – They and everyone would make more money.
    2 – No one would care about replacing them.

    However they are too UNENLIGHTENED and SELFISH!

    Acronym: S. C. U. M.

  226. 226 1george1

    Portia’s UNDERSTATEMENT:
    “Some people still seem to think Republicans take a hands-off approach to regulation, probably because the party is always quick to criticize the burdens regulations place on businesses. But Republican rhetoric doesn’t always match Republican policy.

  227. 227 portia1776

    It is an understatement but not mine. The author of the quote is a French economist, as cited above.

  228. 228 1george1

    Portia:
    George your quote on “exploitation”, as Michael Moore’s movie, only makes
    sense if talking of “crony capitalism” or “corporate socialism.”

    George:
    Yakoff’s exploitation was a JOKE.
    LIFE imitated art during the last 50 years, especially under OILogarch
    plutocrats

    Portia:
    “First, GM makes a lot more than just the Volt.” – True.
    But one of the central arguments made for “rescuing” the company,
    at a staggering cost to taxpayers, was the Volt, which we were
    promised by this administration would reinvigorate GM and the
    American auto industry.

    Instead, as the President’s own auto task force recently noted:
    “While the Volt holds promise, it likely will be too expensive to
    be commercially successful in the short term.”

    George:
    Portia – I believe if you find the FEB 7 GMA you can find how an
    man created an electric car for total cost of $ 12,000 with a body
    by fisher of a 1970s roadster.

    It would be economically devasting to certain marketing to create
    an all electric car, because of all the PARTS it does NOT USE, and
    all of the INVENTORY held by so many AUTO and AFTERMARKET
    companies.
    PORTIA – THE GOVERMENT PEOPLE LIE and TELL PARTIAL TRUTHS!
    THE GOVERMENT PEOPLE PUT LOBBIES and PATRONS above the good
    of the USA.

    If all the police chiefs, and super graders of EVERY COUNTRY were
    in JAIL, would there be ANY WARS or CRIME?

    If you do not make and deliver Wepons and Munnitions, the Militaries
    would have to build them from scratch, and while WAR and CRIME will
    always exist, obstacles can be created to those, analogous to the ways
    the american economy has been sabotaged by the Mensa morons.

    The MARSHALL PLAN is economics 101.

    It looks like socialism to some.
    However it is pure capitalism in practical and idealistic form!

    How it was implemented and the collateral aspects, however …

  229. 229 1george1

    PORTIA – YOUR POSTS HAVE TAUGHT ME LESSONS ABOUT MY POSTS.

    Both a very long with multiple topics.
    Despite be a better and more focused writer than I, there is so much
    within your posts to comment on, agree with, or refute that it is very
    difficult to pick out individual points.

    Other posters complained about the length of my posts and the
    complications within posts.

    However, without seeing someone ELSE do the SAME THING, I could
    not see the validity within their complaints.

  230. 230 cstratct

    George, you’ve got nothing on Portia’s bloviating posts (and I mean that as a compliment).

    Portia, apparently you think that the sheer volume of words in a post is representative of your overwhelming intelligence. Or perhaps you think by posting more it will prove you’re correct. Sorry to say neither is correct.

    I’ll just point to this statement and leave the rest of your self-important blather to others to pick apart. You stated “Yes, and the result of having all powerful government eliminate all bad (and, in the process, good) actors in the private sector is… right, allowing all the bad actors to exist only in government.”

    Please show us, oh wise one, how the American form of government is “all powerful” and how it eliminates all the “good” actors in the system. Last time I checked Steven Jobs was doing okay, I didn’t hear Warren Buffett complaining too much (I know Jez, you’re not a fan), and many, many companies were doing just fine within our economic system. Last time I checked, it wasn’t government that was responsible for creating the mess on Wall Street. The market did a pretty good job of that all on its own.

    With this one statement you sound like many other tea party supporters who yell and scream about all government officials being corrupt, which it appears is your primary thesis. If you’re such a fan of the free market and you believe the market will take care of the bad actors, then the same principle should apply to government as well. Unless you’ve got two sets of rules, which it appears you do.

    You mantra appears to be “all government bad, all business good.” So please, show me this “all powerful” government and how all the good actors are forced out of the system. Because I’m confident there are plenty of “good actors” left in the system that do things the right way and get along just fine (making profits while being creators and innovators) within the current framework of our system.

  231. 231 cstratct

    Follow up – just in case that first line was confusing, the compliment was to George.

  232. 232 jezebel282

    Cstrat,

    “I didn’t hear Warren Buffett complaining too much ”

    Actually he did complain. Loudly and often about the Financial Regulatory Bill and it’s regulation (finally) of the derivatives market. He even had his investor, Ben Nelson (D-NE) vote against it.

  233. 233 1george1

    Chris,
    Thanks for the compliment.
    Only after seeing and reading Portia’s long and complicated posts,
    could I appreciate the difficulty readers had in understanding or
    replying to my long and more complicated post.
    Portia is a better writer than I.
    Portia has bought into the BROAD CAST and PRINT propaganda of
    Republicans and Democrats, same as you and Jeze, to degrees.
    – When getting past present personalities and into theory Portia
    knows his / her stuff, factually.
    – Then it gets to opinion and interpretation.

    Jeze, Portia, Chris .. others
    When I met Ralph Nader last year in Waterbury, he was promoting
    his book “ONLY THE SUPER RICH CAN SAVE US.”
    – He lost my support, despite his good intentions.

    Nader praises BUFFET, GATES, and others.

    I have nothing against getting rich.
    I simply believe those people were “Capitalist Tools,”
    like the former owner of FORTUNE Magazine.
    Capitalist Tool was the name of his Airplane.

    Nelson Rockefeller was claimed to have died having SEX
    with Megan Marshack. (MARS – HACK)

    Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are the “WISE MEN” who gather rich and
    powerful people to come to them and throw ideas at them.
    Like Bloomberg, their organizations get all kinds of INSIDER INFORMATION.

    The ultimate place for INFORMATION is being President or VP.

    Say, wasn’t OIL MAN Nelson Rockefeller VP to G Ford, after NIXON?
    Wasn’t OIL MAN GHW Bush VP to Reagan 8 years, then President?
    Wasn’t OIL MAN G W Bush 8 years President?
    Wasn’t PRESCOTT BUSH partner to W. Averill + Rowland Harriman
    in Brown Brothers Harriman, where Rockefellers were on BOARD of
    DIRECTORS and Harriman’s FATHER ED, was a MAJOR PARTNER in
    J D Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Trust, which controlled all OIL refining
    in the USA by 1880s?

    Oil was $ 2 a barrel in 1960, when OPEC was created and took control
    of OIL PRICING from the TEXAS RAIL ROAD COMMISSION.

    June 2008 oil peaked at $ 147 bbl
    Oil stays at $80 bbl average or about a base line of $ 1.80 gallon, since
    there are 42 gallons / bbl.

    People in the White House appoint heads of the MILITARY and INTELLIGENCE.

  234. 234 cstratct

    Sorry Jez. Quick clarification. I meant that I didn’t hear people like Buffett complaining about an “all powerful” government and his inability to make money or be innovative. He did however call derivatives “financial weapons of mass destruction” in 2003 and may very well have been objecting to different parts of the Fin Reg legislation. It appears his objections were more specialized with respect to the legislation: http://www.cnbc.com/id/38027397/New_FinReg_Rules_May_Require_Buffett_s_Berkshire_to_Post_8_Billion_Collateral

  235. 235 portia1776

    Chris,

    Your response is typical of the chronic Mironite apologist you were, and perhaps remain. In other words, a kind of politics that is arrogantly assertive, even proud, of its own ignorance. And also demagogic.

    Though repeatedly offered the opportunity, you have failed to answer a single point I have raised, or admit that you were wrong in twice writing – once after being refuted – that: “Not all actors in the system will behave responsibly, rendering laissez faire capitalism as failed an ideal as communism.” I have given you every opportunity to show where I have written, or what principle within classical liberalism or laissez-fiare capitalism, requires that “all actors will behave responsibly.” While it is true that you could never produce a source text because none exists, a fair person would have conceded the error. Instead, you just trudge on, thinking that insults are a substitute for reasoned arguments, name-calling a worthy alternative to facts.

    After trying and failing to characterize me as a “conservative” or too “theoretical” or a supporter of the “Patriot Act” (now that I have pointed out that your beloved “Progressive” Democrats have extended this monstrosity unchanged, we hear not a pep from you on individual civil liberties… what a shame), this post brings fresh charges.

    Your inability to offer a coherent response is conveniently excused by claiming that I am a “tea partier” (I’m not) and, in any case, have written too much. The sheer volume of my post certainly does not have any bearing on my “overwhelming intelligence”; but just as certainly, quantity alone is not a determinant factor when judging quality. (What an interesting choice of words, particularly the connotation of being “overwhelmed,” given the one-sidedness of our exchanges to-date).

    My motivation in positing such a long response – most of which was the economic analysis of others far greater and wiser than I – was for elucidation purposes, as noted. It is pointless to have a discussion about economics without knowing the basic, incontrovertible facts. For the betterment of everyone, including myself, I thought it helpful to find out what the positive propositions of the modern economic consensus are. Unfortunately, some people prefer either not to know or to cling to decades and centuries-old fallacies, and go on recommending the economic equivalents of bloodletting on the false pretense that there is no other choice and/or it’s just more expedient to do so. You made such an argument in favor of bailing out GM. And now, having been presented with the counter argument and a pertinent example in Britain’s experience, fall silent.

    I now admit that my hopeful motivation was naïve, as it presumed a shared willingness to learn and an ability to comprehend the plain meaning of words. Both of which appear far beyond you.

    To set the stage, so to speak: You had written that “By the time bad actors in a laissez faire capitalist system are eliminated, the damage has already been done…” to which I responded: “Yes, and the result of having all powerful government eliminate all bad (and, in the process, good) actors in the private sector is… right, allowing all the bad actors to exist only in government. Get real!”

    Unable to see that I was merely pointing out the logical fallacy in your own argument by way of restating it, you now write: “I’ll just point to this statement and leave the rest of your self-important blather to others to pick apart…. Please show us, oh wise one, how the American form of government is ‘all powerful’ and how it eliminates all the ‘good’ actors in the system.”

    What a pity that you have made your last stand on so basic a reading error, accusing me of something I clearly did not write. Your error is compounded by the claim that my positions can be so easily dismissed via summarization as “all government bad, all business good.” Again, I defy you to show where I have written, or what principle within classical liberalism or laissez-faire capitalism, lends any credence to this bogus contention.

  236. 236 1george1

    TODAY – YAHOO – A true dark side

    WASHINGTON (AP) — One in 10 American households with a mortgage is at risk of losing its home, and the foreclosure crisis could worsen if jobs remain scarce.

    About 9.9 percent of homeowners had missed at least one mortgage payment as of June 30, the Mortgage Bankers Association said Thursday. That number, adjusted for seasonal factors, was barely down from a record-high of more than 10 percent as of April 30.

    The Labor Department said requests for unemployment benefits fell sharply last week. The drop in first-time claims to a seasonally adjusted 473,000 was the first decline in a month and a hopeful sign after a raft of dismal economic reports.

    Still, unemployment claims remain much higher than they would be in a healthy economy. Employers are reluctant to hire as economic growth appears to be slowing.

  237. 237 jezebel282

    George,

    I noticed in the Star that you and Mr. Pedoto and not getting along very well.

  238. 238 1george1

    Jeze,

    I actually like it when attacked by Mr. Pedoto.

    Notice Miron / Harkins / others NEVER attack or rebut my Letters?
    1 – Most of my postings are Public Record via print report.
    2 – I supply supporting documentation to all media.

    Mr. Pedoto does to me what I do to Republicans and Democrats.
    Except I try to not be personal in my attacks, but be about political
    decisions.

    Conversely, Mr. Pedoto and some bloggers love the word delusional.

    But then Mr. Pedoto is a Jim Miron supporter! 🙂

    I would like to use PORTIA’S TERM “PROCRUSTEAN” in a LETTER rebuttal,
    and invite EVERYONE to your BLOG to further INSULT ME, or TRADE
    IDEAS, and POLITICAL POSITIONS ….

    Someone I know had an experience with Mr. Pedoto who blew up at a
    Volunteer who dared to disagree with Mr. Pedoto.

    I forget the exact term used to describe Mr. Pedoto, but it was something
    like / in the range of “petulant,” “immature,” “closed minded.”

    Mr. Pedoto is entitled to his opinion.

    I recognize many of my positions are not within “conventional wisdom.”

    A difference I try to make is that my attacks are always related to political
    decisions and do not make it personal attacks.
    – I try to leave family out of it
    > I asked bloggers to get out of attacking Dick Miron’s daughter Brooke,
    and son Chris, who became fair game on the police debacle….
    > I asked bloggers to get out of attacking Dick Miron’s grandchild who
    was a preteen – ignorant Child, accused of bad stuff.

    I even praise many of the people I criticize.
    Especially Gavin

    Family should not be involved in political attacks, unless they involve
    themselves directly in specific politics!

    I try to stay away from attacks on mental state / business issues, except
    as they specifically relate to politics.

    Jeze, Mr. Pedoto seems obsessed with me, compared to the fewer writings
    about other topics.
    I am fair game to be criticized for my beliefs, especially the unusual ones!

  239. 239 1george1

    Chris
    I hope you continue to post.

    This blog needs a (real) Liberal Democratic Idealist to stand up and argue
    for things he she believes.

    Jeze, has started to revert to those basic concepts from youth and has an
    interesting mix of positions.

    Portia, is among the blog’s best writers and has among the best ability to quote poli-sci, history, politics, economics, and more.
    – Portia is strong on placing concepts into proper content
    – Portia is vulnerable on interpretation (same as all of us)

    Sudds claims to have an MBA.
    I am disappointed Sudds has not argued with Portia, Chris, Jeze, or myself
    on this academic area level?

    I recently read of all the discipline MBA students are most likely to cheat?
    > Teasing ya sudds – I would have expected Law & Poli-sci students.
    > Or Oilmen

    PCS appears to have mostly dropped out for healthy priorities.
    It is a shame, since research for proof, was her strength.
    Her weakness is believing Republican Kool-Aid. I hope I am wrong and she
    is right about Harkins, who I believe is in peoples pocket?

    Freedom of Speach has dropped out.
    Apparently a lawyer, with intellectual ability.
    I believe certain references were F.O.S. or Bovine Scatology.
    I suspect he was Kubic.
    Since he is long gone … outing is a moot issue.

    —-

    Jeze outted Fahan, who had outted OnTarget as Florek.

    Florek, Kelly, & Bishop are more personable / likeable than Burturla,
    Miron, Cotter and others…..

    —–

    I had a couple ideas as to Portia’s id.
    However, more recent posts contained reference points that expanded
    from the “usual suspects.”

    I would “almost not” be surprized if Portia was an attorney on Berchem’s
    staff…. I love that a Berchem customer is named “SNIDE MULLIGAN”
    That is the actual name of the firm.

    At this point, I do not think Portia is an outta town attorney.

    Portia may not even be an attorney?

    Portia appears to have a conscience and senses of decency & shame …. 🙂
    Portia also does not like being misinterpretted (see line above)

    ——

    I know Ben Proto was among the original readers of the Playwrite and
    was a long time reader of this blog.

    Lawyers I know told me Proto is exceptionally bright.
    But then, friends also told me the same thing about Henrick.

    ——

    Ron is familiar with Town Politics and Town Council mechanics.

    ——

    Doug, Mike R, Kane, and Cyclops appear to have law enforcement
    back ground.

    J. Burturla’s crew knows who everyone is…. (see Bollick’s PC – does
    anyone think he was the only one whose ID was traced? Doug is an
    object lesson – as am I.)
    This is one reason Kane and Cyclops are off the grid.

    —–

    A few people told me jeze’s id. 100 % consistent.

    ——

    A few posters introduced themselves to me.
    I appreciate the personal compliments.

    ——

    I have a pretty good idea of Sudds ID / profession.
    Mayor 2013 is not who I thought.
    Neither is Phin.

    I would think Phin + 2013 would discuss poli-sci / economic theory?

  240. 240 1george1

    Worth re-reading my posts and Portia’s posts.

  241. 241 cstratct

    Portia,

    One quick comment on this statement:

    “You made such an argument in favor of bailing out GM. And now, having been presented with the counter argument and a pertinent example in Britain’s experience, fall silent.”

    I made my argument, you made a counter-argument. I didn’t “fall silent.” I stated my position, you disagree. So be it. Why should I keep arguing the same point over and over if we’re going to arrive at the same point.

    I think it was the right thing to do for the reasons I presented. What more needs to be said?

  242. 242 1george1

    It appears Chris is content to agree to disagree.
    Very reasonable.

    Chris, your moving out of Stratford is a town loss.

  243. 243 portia1776

    “I think it was the right thing to do for the reasons I presented. What more needs to be said?” – In other words, you’re position is oblivious to reality. The very reasons you cited were the reasons I refuted with logic and an actual real-world example, not just your “Progressive” Democratic talking points. But you continue to hold to them, regardless, and offer no challenge on account of a convenient factual relativism. Now I understand why we’ve made no progress. You don’t believe there are facts, just equally valid opinions. I think this explains the basic reading error above, too. Your inability to comprehend almost everything I have written brings to mind the thoroughly disproven “Whole Language” approach to reading: words don’t have meaning and authors don’t have intent; what is written is up to the subjective reader to “construct.”

    George, the above is not reasonable by any stretch of the imagination. As the great senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY) once said: “You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.” And the facts are absolutely clear:

    “Recall that way back in 2009 the President singlehandedly averted the horrors of a lawful reorganization of General Motors under the Bankruptcy Code. For the greater good, Obama fired the CEO, nationalized the company, elevated an unsecured union above senior secured creditors, and closed 1,500 GM dealerships, destroying 100,000 jobs (http://ricochet.com/conversations/Barack-and-Me/%28comment%29/11397).”

    In the words of Neal M. Barofsky, Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program:

    “At a time when the country was experiencing the worst economic downturn in generations and the government was asking its taxpayers to support a $787 billion stimulus package designed primarily to preserve jobs, Treasury made a series of decisions that may have substantially contributed to the accelerated shuttering of thousands of small businesses and thereby potentially adding tens of thousands of workers to the already lengthy unemployment rolls — all based on a theory and without sufficient consideration of the decisions’ broader economic impact (http://www.sigtarp.gov/about_ig.shtml).”

    But, no matter, Chris will go on believing that the stimulus magicially “created or saved” jobs and there was absolutely no choice but to bailout failed auto companies.

    For contrast purposes, let me model what a reasonable response to my own counter-argument would have looked like: “economic theory and real-world experience tell us that nationalizing a car company is a terrible idea. That said, we can agree to disagree on the necessity to bailout GM in a limited, highly focused way to help mitigate the hardship workers will experience in the bankruptcy process.”

    To be clear: I do not subscribe to that argument’s second clause — nor was the bailout in actuality a “limited,” “highly focused” intervention to help workers and the company through a “bankruptcy process” — as in the mid- to long-term the workers would be much better off without government interference prolonging their transition to new jobs. And yet, I could respect someone who had the intellectual integrity to argue that position while recognizing the inherent pitfalls of such action.

  244. 244 cstratct

    Wow Portia, I must really be under your skin for you to keep coming after me like this. I get it, you don’t like me. I couldn’t care less, but I get it. That said, I have zero interest in continuing down this path with you. I’m not going to respond to every challenge you throw down just so you can come back and berate me again and again. You’re looking for a fight with me and apparently you think that patting yourself on the back is akin to “winning an argument.” So be it.

    So how’s this: You’re amazing Portia. You’re so smart. You can cite things and construct coherent narratives and insult people better than anyone here.

    Is that sufficient for you?

    For what it’s worth, did we ever have a conversation face to face? Have you ever spoken to me directly? I’m curious to know because you seem to know very little about me or my character.

  245. 245 sudds

    “You’re amazing Portia. You’re so smart. You can cite things and construct coherent narratives and insult people better than anyone here.”

    Same goes for me, right Chris ole buddy??? 😀

  246. 246 1george1

    Portia,

    The Auto industry was 40 % of GDP.

    Most peoples’ Wealth is in their homes. Kiting Real Estate for
    10 years after the cold war, set up the underwater situation.

    Creating LIQUIDITY of HOME EQUITY MORTGAGES allowed for
    INVESTMENT in STOCKS and BONDS, which are easier to steal
    and rig.

    Commodities like Agriculture, Mining, Energy, and the such are
    also easier to trap in CAPITALISTIC MARKETS than LOCAL DEEDS.

    During WW II there were about 2,000 major companies created
    for Economy to Scale for necessary WAR PRODUCTION.
    – After WARS, conquored areas or buffer areas need jobs.
    – CAPITALIST decisions are made on cost benefit analysis for competative
    reasons and as JK GALBRAITH also pointed out – NEED TO GROW, which
    is the SAME POINT MARX made about Countries.

    ADAM SMITH’S Wealth of Nations also points out it is easier, faster,
    cheaper, more porductive, and more efficient, working from a clean
    slate like the new world than the old world.

    The Marshall Plan to Western Europe, USA/Canada/DOWN UNDER/Pacific
    Rim was DE FACTO – PRIMA FACIE Adam Smith / Federalist Economics.

    Same is true with TRILATERAL COMMISSION moving USA Industry to lower
    paying countries without costs like OSHA and other Regulators.
    The raise local Standards of Living which are nominal
    They improve quality of life.
    They improve their own Profit margins.
    They can leave Environmental and Social disasters for awhile.

    The future EMERGING MARKETS are
    BLACK AFRICA
    SPANISH AMERICA
    ARABAIC speaking / writing Countries.

    USA middle class is torn. More lower economic class.
    World lower class has rising low income and improving customer potential.
    There are pressures for relief and equilibrium.

    —————–

    Nationalizing AUTO Industry was likely necessary for FORCED RETOOLING
    and CAPITALIZATION.

    REAL ESTATE and WEALTH DISTRIBUTION in the USA is and has been always
    INEQUITABLE. For a variety of reasons it is more obvious.
    What happened to Vietnam War and Segregation when Public became
    aware of that which existed slightly below the surface.

    ——-

    Chris,
    Sudds simply likes to b— b—-s.
    Portia decided to put his own spin on things, which is fine.

    Part of enjoyment on this blog is getting out of my preferred character
    and becoming a b— b–ter.

    This blog can be taken seriously as an aid,
    but can hurt your psyche, if you let mischief makers get to you.

    Chris – I plead guilty to having done it to you in the past, in part because
    your response was annoying to me and I felt an over reaction to be different
    than my intent. Retrospectively – I apologize.

    Portia – please play nice related to not pushing chris’s buttons, although
    chris can defend himself….

    Sudds, I know better …
    and yes … I appreciate you voted for me! 😉

    Labor is the SINGLE BIGGEST PRODUCER of WEALTH.

  247. 247 portia1776

    “Nationalizing AUTO Industry was likely necessary for FORCED RETOOLING
    and CAPITALIZATION.” – George, while true that government intervention has enabled the failed auto companies to pursue retooling and re-capitalize, it is doubtful those were worthwhile goals given the evidence cited above. The unseen, negative impacts are probably even greater, given Joesph Schumpeter’s economic evolutionary concept of “creative destruction.”

    Instead of evolving, GM is using our tax money to continue what it was doing before: self-destructing. As Meghan McCardle over at the Atlantic reports:

    GM is “going to buy AmeriCredit. Why? Because without a captive finance arm, GM can’t reach customers who have terrible credit…

    This is bizarre on many levels. First of all, rather than remaking the old model that didn’t work, this move makes GM seem intent on recreating it. The reason the automakers became ready victims of the financial crisis is that they had essentially become banks with a sideline in auto manufacturing. As they got worse at the auto manufacturing part, they had to become more aggressive on the banking side. When credit dried up, the whole house of cards collapsed.

    Running an auto firm is undoubtedly much harder than it looks–and it looks pretty hard. But would it be crazy to suggest that, rather than using high-rate loans to goose sales in advance of a shotgun IPO, GM could take some time and concentrate on, I don’t know, making cars that people want to buy even if they can’t get bad lease deals?

    On the government side, it’s even odder. Pushing GM back into the subprime credit market seems to raise the odds that GM is eventually going to require another bailout. Meanwhile, it entices more consumers into the subprime credit market, which I didn’t realize was currently a goal of government policy. And it does all this with billions of money that could be used to, say, repay the government. The only upside for the administration that I can see on this deal is that it might give Democrats a temporary boost in November by making the IPO seem marginally more likely to succeed (http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/07/gm-to-purchase-auto-finance-company/60252/).”

    “REAL ESTATE and WEALTH DISTRIBUTION in the USA is and has been always
    INEQUITABLE.” – The Constitution promises equal rights not equal wealth — a good thing, too, considering the moral and real-world evil wrought by socialist and “Progressive” wealth redistribution policies, i.e., “…equal want, equal wretchedness, equal beggary… Such is the event of all compulsory equalizations. They pull down what is above. They never raise what is below: and they depress high and low together beneath the level of what was originally the lowest (Edmund Burke, Thoughts and Details on Scarcity).

  248. 248 cstratct

    George, while I appreciate the commentary and the apology (although none is necessary), I can take care of myself. As you know I am more than willing to go head-to-head if the need arises. Nothing in this blog “hurts my psyche.” I just don’t care to continue to engage with someone who consistently twists my words and their intent. I’m not supposed to label Portia a “tea partier,” but he/she seems intent on labeling me as a “progressive.” I’m supposed to atone for my “bullying” behavior, yet Portia exhibits the very same qualities. Honestly George, it makes me laugh out loud.

    I suppose the difference between Portia and me (based on his/her consistent personal invective) is that I come here to debate issues for a bit of enjoyment. I don’t take it too seriously and I’m not out to deliberately insult or attack anyone. I simply like the ideological exchange. The rest of the garbage is just that.

    And Portia, I’m not trying to insult you. I write his/her because I have no idea who you are or whether you are male or female. Perhaps I missed a post where that was disclosed, but you’ll find I do the same with Jezebel since I don’t know the person behind that avatar either.

  249. 249 1george1

    I think Portia may agree with this, which is my long held position,
    although these are someone else’s words.

    Neither Party Deserves to Lead – Opinion
    ByPeter Morici, Senior Contributor to TheStreet,
    On Monday August 30, 2010, 10:06 am EDT

    Americans may be dissatisfied with the economy but don’t look for
    Republicans to sweep control of the House and Senate.

    Voters have good reason to not be enamored with both parties.

    Democrats have pushed through President Obama’s agenda
    — more than $800 billion in stimulus spending, health care reform
    and new financial regulations
    — yet the economy remains sluggish and Treasury Secretary Timothy
    Geithner tells us unemployment will linger near 10% for many months.

    The Republican chant of less regulation and lower taxes is just not
    credible after the Wall Street meltdown of 2008, and with a
    $1.5 trillion budget deficit.

    Flashback: Ron Paul Dismisses McCain, Obama >>

    Voters want a clear plan to balance the budget and create decent jobs,
    and to win their confidence one or the other party must come clean
    about what that takes.

    Spending is more the problem than taxes
    — Congress has no self-discipline.

    MORE – PARTIAL POST

    Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are more than 40% of
    federal spending. Nothing gets fixed without fixing old-age
    pensions and skyrocketing health care costs.

    Simply, Americans live longer.
    Without increasing the retirement age to 70 seniors will sooner
    or later get disappointed when the federal government can’t pay
    what has been promised.

    Americans pay 50% more for medical care than do the Germans
    — the United States spends 19% of GDP, while Germany, Holland
    and others, with healthier populations, spend about 12%.

    Americans do get the privilege of paying more for drugs, doctors
    and health insurance executives, an army of claims bureaucrats
    that mindlessly harass, and get to wait three weeks to see an urologist, orthopedist or other specialist, just like the Europeans and Canadians.

    MORE

  250. 250 jezebel282

    George,

    “- I have court experience with rigged and false information to the
    Judge and jury, assuring defeat in the Mossman civil trial.”

    Mossman is DEAD. He’s not going to answer now.

    Of course, you could make a claim on his estate like the Town’s professional sue-er is doing to Sylvia Guberman’s estate.

  251. 251 1george1

    There is a lot of still relevant information in this post and George’s
    pension issues, including many good economic insights by Portia.

    The interpretation and application by Portia, Jeze, Chris, and I
    are 4 people looking at similar facts from 4 different persepctives,
    and having some superficial disagreements on style, substance,
    ways, and means.

    We all see the system appears broken and agree on blaming political
    parties, depending on who we identify with, on National issues.

    On local issues, we pretty much agree on certain bad guys.
    We disagree among who we feel are the good guys (with some exceptions)

  252. 252 1george1

    Obama said the right things last night, without specifics.

    I believe everything scripted / on time table.
    Obama / Bush / Clinton = titular heads.

    DJIA closed 1 0 0 1 4 . 7 2

    G = 7th Letter Alphabet = G-2 = Military Intelligence

    A = 1st Letter
    D = 4th Letter

    A. D. = Abreviation representing Christianity

    00 = License to Kill

    A = Beginning letter of Alphabet = Highest

    The Intelligence Communities talk to each other in code.

    The British Newspaper industry has always been appendage
    of Intelligence and cyphers abound to various members of
    the Empire / Common Wealth others, including in the FONT
    and PICTURES / DRAWINGS, in which Hebrew, Aramaic, and
    other steganography can be embedded.

    Some times the codes are literal.
    Some times the codes are contary or counter intuitive.
    Sometimes the codes has false flags.

    The proof is in the puddin or maybe Putin?
    Kim Philby – James Jesus Angleton – Robert Hannsen – Aldrich Ames
    GHW Bush – Mikhail Gorbachev – Andropov

    Churchill: Russia is a riddle in a mystery in a conundrum wrapped in
    an ENIGMA.

    ENIGMA was the Code Machine of Nazi Germany.
    LENIN was shipped from France through Germany to Russia.

    Was there a CARDINAL in the KREMLIN?
    Was there a GRAND MASTER in the KREMLIN?

    Was TAILGUNNER Joe McCarthy correct about COMMUNISTS
    running the MILITARY?

    I dunno?

  253. 253 1george1

    Hi Ron … others.
    These issues and above posts are increasingly relevant.

    Portia 247 relates to GM Credit.
    Like GE Credit, it is a vehicle (pun intended) to facilitate buying.
    It is also another mechanism for capturing profit.

    Wall Street Banking
    Commercial Banking
    Savings and Loan
    Credit Unions
    Personal Banking
    The FED
    IMF
    WORLD BANK
    EURO / Markets – Finance

    There is plenty of capital and credit which can be made available.

    Each SOVEREIGN country has
    SIGNOURAGE
    TAX LEVI
    LAND ASSETS
    Other ASSETS.

    If the powers pull the plug, it is pulled.
    When the powers are ready to reinstall the system with or without
    true safe guards ….

  254. 254 1george1

    Storm brewing!

  255. 255 1george1

    5 Doomsday Scenarios for the U.S. Economy
    by Derek Thompson, Daniel Indiviglio
    Saturday, September 4, 2010 THE ATLANTIC

    JUST the TOPICS or 1st sentence/pargraph:

    1. Housing’s Mini-Bubble Pops.

    2. You Break the Economy – You, the American consumer,
    are reloading savings after a debt-fueled decade.
    (GEORGE: 70 % of DNP/GDP = Consumer spending)

    3. Toxic Assets Return – (CREATED: BUSH-CHENEY + complicit Legislative)

    If you closely followed the bank bailout, then you know it wasn’t
    originally billed as simply throwing money at the banks.
    Instead, the Treasury intended to purchase the toxic assets from banks,
    which were the source of investors’ uncertainty concerning bank stability.
    But the Treasury couldn’t figure out a way to do this quickly enough to
    make it effective. As a result, the banks were largely stuck
    with these bad assets. We just don’t know how bad, yet.

    4. Europe Falls Apart – Europe seems to have avoided an all-out collapse of confidence in its ability to pay back its debt.
    But things can change, and fast fast.

    5. Debt Finally Catches Up to Us – Interest rates on U.S. debt are low
    today for one big reason. Investors trust the United States,
    at least more than they trust other countries.
    If the people giving us money suddenly have as little faith in America
    as Americans, that could change, and quickly.

    Here’s the scenario. The IMF recently said the United States has a
    25 percent chance of seeing dramatically higher interest rates in the
    near future.
    But the bond market can strike without warning, as it did in Europe
    earlier this year.
    If uncertainty with our political process gets reflected in our
    interest rate, we’ll have a harder time affording debt,
    55% of which has to be rolled over in the next three years.

    >>> Pension and mutual funds with government debt <<<<

    would be written down, causing Americans to save even more of
    their paychecks.
    We'd be left with two bad choices: tax cuts to juice consumption
    or tax hikes to please our lenders.
    But at that point, it would be too late to avoid a double dip.

    —–
    GEORGE: I believe there are plenty of alternatives and these should
    1 – NEVER have happened
    2 – WERE CAUSED to INTENTIONALLY HAPPEN
    3 – CAUSED by MALICIOUS PEOPLE

  256. 256 1george1

    WIKIPEDIA:
    Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps is an American drama film directed
    by Oliver Stone. It is a sequel to the 1987 Academy Award-winning film
    Wall Street –
    (GEORGE: released early OCT 1987 – 2 weeks before market crash)

    Michael Douglas reprises his role as Gordon Gekko in the film.
    The film stars Shia LaBeouf, Josh Brolin, Frank Langella AND
    Carey Mulligan, in supporting roles.

    1987 Congressman Bruce Morrison’s aid CAREY’S lies cost my USPS career.

    Michael Douglas reprises his role as Gordon Gekko.[4] In the film,
    Gekko has recently been released from prison and, after a failed
    attempt to warn business leaders of the imminent economic downturn,

    EITHER HISTORY will REPEAT.

    Or it will be the BEGINNING of the END of the distructions of the USA
    economy, by Corrupt-icut and USA Demon-crats and RepubliCONN artists
    running the USA Executive – Legislative – Judicial – Military – Bureaucracy –
    Corporate – and Private sector iconocratic kleptocracy.

    If there is a GOD – I curse AL of their SOULS to ETERNAL DAMNATIONS for
    those who harmed me and innocent people, whereas NO CULTURAL NOR
    RELIGEOUS BELIEF can relieve them of the CURSE upon them & decendants!

  257. 257 1george1

    GEKKO is the AD symbol for GEICO, owned by INSIDER TRAITOR
    WARREN BUFFET!

  258. 258 1george1

    An Italian member of a state union told a story about the
    origin of the scape goat, where the sheppard mixes in a
    different type of goat which freezes and can not move,
    paralysed with fear when wolves approach.

    The Sheppard moves his flock leaving the scapegoat to the
    wolves as a sacrifice for them to sate themselved while he
    saves most of his prized flock.

    A couple of other people defined scapegoat differently where
    one goat was killed and another sent to the wilderness with
    the sins of the village as an offering to a (hebrew) pagan god.

    The state union rep was unaware of the origin of “werewolves”
    which describe Romulus and Remus, mythical founders of Rome
    who were found as babies and raised by a she wolf.
    The romans considered wolves sacred and a role model.

    The “were” “wolf” has a human appearance but comes out under
    certain conditions and preys only certain nights.

    Both practicioners of the scapegoat arts were unaware they were
    observed by sons of druid who also practiced bloody sacrifices.

    They and others joined in learning to gain and control political strength
    in bands of government employ to protect each other.

    They too were known by gentrified educated business people, engineers,
    craftsmen, and soldiers of the compass and square, who know of ST. JAMES,
    ST MARK (MARX), ST. PETER, and ST PAUL, as well as AZAZEL and DRUIDS.

    They too were practicioners of the DARK CONSANGINARY ARTS.

    Across the OCEAN and HIDDEN within the PEAKS of the heights were those
    who learned to profit from their privateers, whose looney toons, rites and
    rituals of the ancient orders and religious orders allowed them to divide
    and conquor, profitably supplying the needs for conflict, for continuation,
    and like the grasshopper and the ant, look to swoop in to steal the prize.

    It matters not if it is the Catbird seat or from the height of the Condor ….
    they watch and wait until the meal is ready and cooked of toil and trouble.
    The reference was to the ancient romans.
    However, to become a werewolf, one must only survive the bite.

  259. 259 1george1

    Perhaps the scapegoat has a coat tinted with poison?

    Perhaps the area around the scapegoat is marked for a killing field?

    The scape goat, gazelle, or rooster can attract wolves, wolfhounds,
    lions-bulldogs, and eagle.

    Dead wolves have value for fur and food.
    The same is true for the others.

  260. 260 1george1

    Top Star Trek Aliens – who are possible real life counterparts?

    FEDERATION – Ostensibly USA Military / government toward UN

    Klingons – WARRIORS ((cling on)- humanoids with little honor, intended
    as an allegory to the then-current Cold War tensions between the
    United States and the Soviet Union. While occasionally capable of honor,
    this depiction treated the Klingons as close to wild animals, close to wild
    animals without redeeming qualities – brutish, scheming, and murderous
    (like USA FBI-Justice -DemonCrat + RepubliCONNartists parties Committees)
    Named after L. A. PD Lieutenant Wilbur Clingan, with Gene Roddenberry.

    Vulcans – ACADEMICS / RELIGION – advocates of logic over emotions

    The Borg – SOCIALISTS / BUREAUCRATS half-artificial half-fleshy drones
    part of an assimilation collective. attempt to achieve perfection.
    They assimilate any species come to contact with and adopt and adapt
    to technology when it suits them.

    Founders – ANCIENTS “They are shape-shifters”

    Romulans – MAFIA / NOBLES – distant cousins Vulcans – meaner

    Ferengis – CAPITALIST / Yankee Traders – profit seekers – huge ear lobes.

    Jem’Hadar – SECRET ANCIENT ORDERS – mean warrior slaves of Founders

    Cardassians – NAZI ? – reptilian looking enemies of Bajor

    Bajoran – Jewish ? deeply spiritual people, who worship The Prophets
    Oppressed gypsie like seeking freedom

    Q – CREATORS – COMPTROLLERS of MASON / Grand Lodge – Mischievious
    and seemingly Omnipiant, yet always lose to Capt Picard?
    The Q are a continuum of seemingly eternal and omnipotent beings

    NAGILLUM = The Enterprise becomes enveloped by a void in space where
    the crew are tested by a powerful alien presence.
    MULLIGAN = spelled backwards > Where Silence Has Lease” is the second
    episode of the second season of Star Trek: The Next Generation.
    It is episode #28, production #128, written by Jack B. Sowards (dead) and
    directed by Winrich Kolbe.

    Andorians – Blue Lodge Mason? – humanoid species – blue skin + antennae.

    Betazoid – – telepathic humanoid species

    Bynars – NERDS – highly intelligent species – becAme almost machine-like
    due to constant connection with homeworld Bynaus’s master computer.
    Bynars are asexual beings – small about size of regular Human adolescent.

    Changelings – PREDATOR / TERMINATOR / SPECIAL FORCES- alien ability to shapeshift. Natural state is a liquid protoplasm

    Shapeshifting – INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY – turn themselves into almost
    anything. They can form themselves into any solid, liquid, gas OR reactions
    like fire, and can flow through any gap in their gaseous or liquid state.

    Denobulans

    Dominion – BRITISH EMPIRE or SOVIETS? ruthless- militaristic Gamma Quadrant
    state consisting of many different races.

    Douwd – – an immortal energy being

    El-Aurians – NSC – The Race of Listeners

    Fotiallian – DRUG CARTELS – An illusory, shapeshifting, salt-hungry creature

    Gorn – ORIENTAL – humanoid reptiles from Gorn Hegemony. Cold blooded
    – strong – slow moving – cunning – devious

    Hazari MERCINARIES – bounty hunters – capture alien vessels

    The Hierarchy species – SPIES / DIPLOMATS – use surveillance on passing
    ships for future raids

    Hirogen – BLACK OPS – view all other races as prey. make sport of pursuing
    what they deem worthy adversaries

    GEORGE’S FAVORITE: The Horta – PARENTS / The PHOENIX / Saint Peter &
    Christians who are the ROCKS of HUMANITY – looks like an animated clump
    of partially molten stone capable of burrowing quickly through solid rock
    Horta are intelligent and peaceful silicon-based lifeform
    every 50,000 years the entire race of Horta dies > one who remains to
    protect the eggs and act as the mother / father to them – assists miners by locating new deposits of minerals in exchange for being left alone.

    Hunters – NOBILITY / HANDLERS – lifelong pursuit of A related species, Tosk.
    They value a long, challenging hunt

    Iconians – CIA study > LEVANT/MIDEAST highly advanced ancient cultures and
    mythological cultures having vast empires (ATLANTIS)

    Kadi – TRUE MOSLEMS – deeply spiritual people; shunning everything from entertainment to spicy foods. In their culture, males and females work
    separately. The Kadi bathe with pure water only, and observe prayers
    eight times each day.

    Talosians – TORah MENTORS – Inflict pain for their purposes.

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Race
    Aaamazzarite – Acamarian – Aenar – Akaali – Akritirian – Aksani
    Alcyone – Aldean – Algolian – Alkian – Allasomorph – Alsuran
    Andorian – Android – Angosian – Ankari – Annari – Antaran
    Antarian – Antedean – Antican – Arbazan – Arcadian – Ardanan – Arcturian
    Argala – Argelian – Argosian – Argrathi – Arkarian – Arkonian – Arrithean
    Axanar – B’Saari – B’omar – Ba’ku – Ba’neth – Bajoran – Bandi – Banean
    Bara Plenum – Barkonian – Barolian – Barzan – Benkaran – Benthan
    Benzenite – Benzite – Berellian – Betazoid – Betelgeusian – Biomimetic – Bolian
    Boraalan Boray Borg Boslic Botha Breen Brekkian Brenari
    Briori Brunali – Bynar Byzallian Byzatium Caatati – Caitian Calamarain
    Caldonian Camorite – Capellan Cardassian Chalnoth Changeling
    Chokuzan Chrysalian Coridan Corvallen Cravic Crystalline Entity
    Cytherian Cytoplasmic lifeform D’Arsay Dachlyd Daliwakan Debrune
    Deltan Denebian Denobulan Devidian Devore Dinaali
    Doosodarian – Dopterian Dosi Douwd Dralian Drayan Dream species
    Dreman Druoda Edo Ekosian El-Aurian Elasian Elaysian Ellora Enaran
    Enolian Entaban Entharan Eska Etanian Evora Excalbian Exocomp
    Farn Fek’Ihri Fen Domar – Ferengi Flaxian Flotilian

    etc
    – Mideast / Africans = elaborate hair and head-dress

  261. 261 1george1

    I was having fun posting the STAR TREK post of alien races and
    the comparisons to various cultures in the world at the time of
    writing and broadcast.
    Embedded in my Sept 1987 offering to the U.S. Senate/Congress
    was an indirect (unnamed) reference to the “HORTA.”
    Like the “HORTA,” I was trying to protect my workers as I was the
    union steward. Ergo, the analyst figured I watched/memorized
    Star Trek stories and shortly thereafter was written and broadcast
    the NAGILLUM story. NAGILLUM is MULLIGAN spelled backwards.

    NAGILLUM = The Enterprise becomes enveloped by a void in space where
    the crew are tested by a powerful alien presence.
    MULLIGAN = spelled backwards > Where Silence Has Lease” is the second
    episode of the second season of Star Trek: The Next Generation.
    It is episode #28, production #128, written by Jack B. Sowards (dead) and
    directed by Winrich Kolbe.

    GEORGE’S FAVORITE: The Horta – PARENTS / The PHOENIX / Saint Peter &
    Christians who are the ROCKS of HUMANITY – looks like an animated clump
    of partially molten stone capable of burrowing quickly through solid rock
    Horta are intelligent and peaceful silicon-based lifeform
    every 50,000 years the entire race of Horta dies > one who remains to
    protect the eggs and act as the mother / father to them – assists miners by locating new deposits of minerals in exchange for being left alone.

    The BIBLE and SHAKESPEAREAN PLAYS are numbered for ACTS, PARTS, LINES,
    and word in the LINE.
    The British Empire was able to secretly advise operatives, including overseas
    by simply using numbers to identify a specific line or number from any of the
    books of the BIBLE or SHAKESPEAREAN PLAYS or other LITERARY WORKS.

    The embedded code ciphers could be used per date of the month/day of
    the original transmission, because it took days, weeks, and months for the
    transfer locally or over seas.
    All major British newspapers are writen and edited in London.
    They also contained pseudo classical fonts in the ART WORK or DRAWINGS
    or TRIM, in which Hebrew, Aramaic, Chinese, Japanese, Farsi, or other
    languages could be hidden.

    In this summer’s Russian spy scandal about 1-2 weeks before the movie
    dispicable me …. the word steganography became better known.

    For sure, I thought I would get b… busted for posting the above.
    I was then to explain why I did it, with a post like this LONGER POST.
    No one bit – I guess there are no TREKKIES among blog readers.

    Star Trek STARS: Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner are Ashkenazim.
    Creator Roddenberry was protestant and former military and ex-police.
    Many of the original Star Trek were modernized OT, NT, Shakespeare,
    or classics, fit into about 42 minutes, where Shatner always got the
    interstellar (alien) girl, (irresistable: like a James Bond).
    He should have gotten interstellar venerial diseases? 🙂

  262. 262 1george1

    Mike R likes GOLF
    Jeze likes SKIING
    Sudds is Bronco Fan
    Chris is Eagles Fan
    I like NFL Draft and was BUCS – Dungy fan.

    None are relevant to posts

  263. 263 1george1

    Feds propose cap for portion of Raymark waste
    By Brittany Lyte, Staff Writer
    Published: 08:51 p.m., Thursday, September 9, 2010

    Federal regulators have proposed spending $4.6 million to cap a
    small percentage of toxic contaminates generated by the
    long-shuttered Raymark Industries manufacturing plant.

    The proposal calls for the construction of a 6-acre permanent c
    ap at 576 and 600 East Broadway, now a vacant lot and a small
    commercial business, to contain more than 42,000 cubic yards
    of toxic waste that sits there underground.

    Waste from a residential location at Third Avenue would be removed and transported to be capped alongside contaminates at East Broadway.

    In the meantime, the fundamental conflict between regulators
    and town residents over how to deal with the bulk of the toxic
    waste remains unresolved.

    The plan is to “basically do nothing” with the toxic waste

    Since 1994, more than $200 million has been funneled into
    cleanup efforts at just a few of those locations,

    Murphy said. “People in the town have been advocating for
    taking (the waste) out of town, and we’ve been saying that
    its much more expensive to move it out of town and its
    better to condense and contain it.”

    Tom Smith, a Stratford resident and co-founder of Save Stratford,
    a network of town residents concerned about Raymark waste disposal,
    said he disapproves of the EPA’s piecemeal planning method.

    “The one thing (the EPA) has never presented Stratford, and we’ve
    asked them, is for a soup-to-nuts plan that shows us what is going
    to happen when all of this is said and done,” Smith said.
    “We’ve been proposing from day one that they need to provide
    Stratford with a fully funded, comprehensive cleanup plan that
    removes most, if not all of the waste, and puts it where is belongs,
    which is at a toxic waste plant. We understand they can’t take it all,
    but they’ve got to take something because telling us that they are
    not obligated to remove an ounce of waste is not cutting the mustard.”

    Erin Holroyd, Smith’s counterpart in Save Stratford, said the organization’s
    over-arching goal is to convince authorities to get as much of the
    waste out of town as possible.

    Adam Bauer, chief of staff to Mayor John A. Harkins, said the mayor
    has not yet made a statement about whether he supports the EPA plan,
    which was released Wednesday.

    —————–

    Letter to editor the ct post will not print:

    September 10, 2010
    Letter to the Editor:

    For some reason Jim Murphy’s EPA are not receptive to my plan
    for Stratford’s Raymark Waste:

    * MOVE all the RAYMARK WASTE into the basements of EPA officials
    and State and Federal elected and appointed officials?

    Fair is fair, isn’t it?

    We have toxic groundwater and Volatile Organic Compound (gas)
    under our basements for decades.

    Maybe Dodd will make tens of millions of dollars as a Lobbyists,
    doing for Stratford and Bridgeport those things that should have
    happened in the 1980s-1990s?
    (Like the pretended need for saving 10.500 New London submarine
    base jobs?)

    George Mulligan, 429 Housatonic Avenue Stratford, CT. 06615 (203) 378-1888
    georgeemcom@yahoo.com

  264. 264 1george1

    Raymark waste is a dark side issue.

    EPA and politicians want no mention of groundwater.

    See movie Erin Brocovich.

    What were the REAL LIABILITY ISSUES?

    How do they or could they relate to Stratford?

    Hmmmm …. that requires a little research, thinking, empathy, and
    projection … which lets out many of this blog’s readers … especially
    for some racist and selfish people in north end, central, south Stfd
    and our surrounding towns …

  265. 265 1george1

    Belated best wishes
    Rosh Hashanah (Hebrew: ראש השנה‎, literally “Head of the year,”

    Early best wishes
    Yom Kippur (Hebrew: יוֹם כִּפּוּר‎, IPA: [ˈjom kiˈpur]), also known as the
    Day of Atonement, is the holiest day of the year for Jews.
    Its central themes are atonement and repentance.

    FYI to others:
    ‘Kippur’ comes from a root that means to cover or hide;
    a secondary meaning is to obliterate (sin) and hence to expiate.

    Traditionally, Yom Kippur is considered the date on which Moses
    received the second set of Ten Commandments.
    It occurred following the completion of the second 40 days of
    instructions from God.
    At this same time, the Israelites were granted atonement for the
    sin of the Golden Calf;
    hence, its designation as the Day of Atonement

    (In golfers’ terms, “the 2nd set of 10 commandments” is the equivalent
    of a “Mulligan.” = do over of the 1st shot attempted/messed up.)

    SHALOM!

  266. 266 jezebel282

    George,

    Shana tova to you.

  267. 267 1george1

    George,

    Shana tova to you.

    – Jeze

    Gracias …. amigo / amiga

  268. 268 portia1776

    Happy New Year to you, both!

    Unfortunately, it’s not looking good for many Americans, especially the least among us, who are suffering under the conceit of President Obama and his Democratic Congress and Senate, aka the masters of the universe who are centrally planning ever larger swaths of our economy with predictable results:

    “The U.S. poverty rate has skyrocketed by a record amount under the Obama administration, with one out of seven Americans considered poor last year, according to a report Saturday.

    The disturbing trend is an estimate of 2009 census data set for release on Thursday, The Associated Press reported…

    The estimated 1.8 percentage-point increase in 2009 is the largest year-to-year uptick since the U.S. started calculating poverty figures in 1959.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/09/12/2010-09-12_soaring_poverty_rate_hits_dismal_high__45_million.html#ixzz0zJDT8Oh2

    The president at least mouthed the right idea in the requisite press conference to spin, I mean address, this glaring, objective failure: “The most important anti-poverty effort is growing the economy and making sure there are enough jobs out there.” Now if only that sentiment translated into adopting the pro-growth, free market capitalist policies that will actually create a “virtuous cycle” to lift the millions of new poor back out of poverty.

    For anyone who forgot what the “Great Society” did for the poor, I recommend
    “Good Intentions” Dr. Walter Williams’ 1985 PBS documentary, examining the failure of the “war on poverty” and the devastating effect of well meaning government policies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1r-r6iLBEI&feature=PlayList&p=8F6669EBA4AD450E&index=0&playnext=1

  269. 269 1george1

    PORTIA:

    I posted in the past, and no one took the bait,
    that you, Jeze, Chris, and others
    are working on and posting based an obvious assumption.

    We all know the “assumption corollary”
    We all know “the Peter Principle,” “Murphy’s Law,” &”Catch-22.”
    We can understand “Self Interest” and variable dynamics related to
    “Hegelian Dialectics.”

    However “counterintuitive” “mirror imaging” for “reactionary effects”
    on macro and micro economics, poly sci, and sociological objectives,
    while retaining invisible system control of interactive polyglots and
    kulture krieg is beyond my limitations and those of most people.

    However operation overlord sundered all european empires while the
    rest of the world saw empires replaced, often by puppet dictators.
    – Colonial excesses and abuses were replaced by sovereign badstars,
    with the net effect to mitigate or exculpate Western Civ history and
    past leaders of Western Civ.

    Or, as chairman joint chiefs Admiral William Crowe stated Dec 1988 time
    magazine, quoting CT.’s Walt Kelly’s POGO: “We have met the enemy…
    he is us.” That is an occam razor, explanation.

  270. 270 jezebel282

    From George:

    Intel increases R &D spending in bad times, and is rewarded with
    increased efficiency and lower costs.

    There are different types of SPENDING and everyone lumps them
    into the same pool.

    Instead of bribing Big Oil, Wall Street execs, Telecommunications,
    Military, Security/Police, government workers, and various sacred
    cows ….. a dramatic increase in SEED MONEY and INTELLIGENT
    PROJECT could have kept many Americans out of some of out issues
    and problems.

    AVCO / RAYMARK should have been complete in 1980s and Stratford
    would have been better off, and Army would have saved $ 70 million
    in care taker costs.

    Honest government would not have wasted spending in Health Insurance,
    Pensions, Annuities and rolls royce benefits.

    Just Stratford:
    $ 50 million waste in Building Needs / Bid / Change Orders = 10 years
    $ 70 million AVCO Care Taker
    $ 83 million ECS lost
    $ 160 million unfunded State + Federal Mandates = 15 years
    $ 180 million kited cost for kited pensions since 2003
    $ 200 million for interest on Capital debt = 15 years
    $ 250 million in extra Health Insurance cost = 15 years

    Because certain STATE POLICE / POLICE / FIRE / PW / EDUCATION
    FBI – JUSTICE / JUDGES – Prosecutors – Defense / INTELLIGENCE /
    MILITARY / POLITICIANS are stealing the USA blind – money that
    could have been used for infrastruction – equipment – tools – books
    and lower taxes has been squander on the antithesis of SEED MONEY
    = PORK.

    1969 USA went to the moon.
    2010 USA politics resembles PROHIBITION & KNAPP COMMISSION.

  271. 271 1george1

    Jeze – ya finally found some free time ….
    Some of the others were far more wothy to be moved than this. 🙂

    It actually was almost all about Stratford

  272. 272 jezebel282

    George,

    “Some of the others were far more wothy to be moved than this.”

    You are absolutely correct. I can go back and move them if you wish.

  273. 273 1george1

    These could be Potemkin stories where some powerful people
    are either pretending to go thru hard times OR
    if they have outlived their usefulness?

    Jon Best worked for NYC when the Council President was Andrew Stein.
    In late 1980s Manhattan inc story appeared to infer Jerry Finkelstein
    (Andy’s dad) replaced Carmine DeSapio as Tammany Hall Grand Sachem.

    May 27, 2010
    Indicted New York City Politician Andrew Stein Was Behind
    Controversial License For Gay Bar

    In New York City the feds have charged Kenneth Starr, a financial
    advisor to the stars, with fraud and money laundering in connection
    with an alleged $30 million Ponzi scheme, and Andrew Stein, a former
    City Council and Manhattan borough president, with lying to the I.R.S.
    as reported by Alison Gendar and Bill Hutchinson for the Daily News:

    Prosecutors charged that Starr pilfered millions from actors,
    philanthropists and an elderly heiress.
    Star is accused of touting “sure deals” to his clients, while making
    investments in risky companies, some co-owned by wife Diane Passage,
    a former Scores stripper. * * *
    The complaint charges that Starr teamed up in 2000 with Stein, who
    was a consultant for various investment companies.
    Starr is accused of funneling $1.6 million into a company called Wind
    River that Stein then drained for personal expenses, including a
    Hamptons summer rental. Stein is charged with lying to the IRS
    and federal agents about his involvement with Wind River.

    president, he inexplicably reversed himself to support a cabaret license
    which would allow dancing at gay bar Uncle Charlie’s South at 38th Street
    & Third Avenue.
    Uncle Charlie’s was a popular chain of gay bars in NYC operated by Louis
    Katz, and the Murray Hill property was part of the real estate empire
    built by Alexander DiLorenzo Jr. and Sol Goldman.
    In reporting on the cabaret licensing controversy, Murray Schumach
    wrote a Feb. 8, 1978 article
    (“The Strange Case Of a Cabaret Ban That Was Lifted”)
    for the New York Times which stated in part:

    A political tempest about a restaurant in the Murray Hill section of
    Manhattan has swept up Borough President Andrew Stein . . . .
    The community board and a solid array of elected officials from the
    area did not want a restaurant called Uncle Charlie’s South, at Third
    Avenue and 38th Street, to get a limited cabaret license.
    They felt it would make it a noisy discotheque unsuited to a residential
    district. The storm broke when Mr. Stein, three days after strongly
    opposing the cabaret variance as “abhorrent,” went into a complete
    reversal the day before a hearing on Jan. 31 before the Board of
    Standards and Appeals.
    He urged that the variance be granted for a one-year trial period.
    It was. * * * Mr. Stein could not be reached yesterday to explain his
    total change of attitude in three days. But his depty borough president,
    Chris McGrath, said that Mr. Stein, after writing his letter of strong
    opposition, had made a personal inspection of the area and had
    decided it should have a one-year trial period. * * *
    The bitterness of the disagreement has touched off ugly insinuations.
    Mr. Stein’s critics say he made his quick reverse at the suggestion of
    his father,
    Jerry Finkelstein,
    one of the most powerful political power brokers in the state. * * *

    The Board of Standards and Appeals, in granting the variance last
    Tuesday, said it was doing so “on the grounds of practical difficulty
    and/or unnecessary hardship.”
    The restaurant, in its request for dancing, had pointed out that last
    year, after dancing was halted there, business fell of sharply. It said
    that unless it could have dancing again, it would face bankruptcy. * * *
    The building, Mr. [Solomon] Sheer wrote, “is part of the Goldman
    & DiLorenzo real-estate empire, which is also under financial pressure.”

    DiLorenzo, who died in 1975, allegedly had used a consulting firm of

    which Carlo Gambino was a principal in order to resolve labor disputes,

    and many of his and Goldman’s properties during the 1960s and 1970s
    had gay bars and smut shops as tenants.
    A Jan. 18, 1973 article (“Rape of 46th & Second”) in The Village Voice
    alleges: Goldman and DiLorenzo own real estate in New York worth
    more than $850 million; they own 355 properties in Manhattan alone,
    including a dozen pornographic bookstores, movie theatres, and
    massage parlors, plus several luxury buildings populated by pimps,
    pushers and prostitutes. * * *
    In addition, it is widely rumored that Goldman and DiLorenzo have
    connections with the Mafia.

    They once hired a “labor consulting” company named SGS Associates,
    owned by Carlo Gambino, to break a strike by employees of the
    Chrysler Building.

    Louis Katz, the man behind the Uncle Charlie’s franchise and a friend
    of Roy Cohn,
    was charged with murder for the 1986 brutal stabbing death of
    37-year-old Michael Moriarty who had developed a relationship with
    Katz’s 20-year-old former lover. The first trial against Katz in 1988 ended
    with a hung jury, (WHAT A PUN – FOR “GAY” LOVERS?)
    and while awaiting a 1989 re-trial he went on the lam.
    In an article (“Suspect in ’86 Slaying Nabbed”) for the Daily News,
    Richard Weir wrote: “Katz, then 58 and a millionaire who had sold
    his bars, his swanky Park Ave. apartment, his Mercedes-Benz and
    his palatial Fire Island home, then disappeared.”
    Katz was convicted in absentia of first-degree manslaughter,
    and in 2002 was apprehended in Panama where he had been
    living under an assumed identity.
    The former gay bar operator, now 85 years old, is housed at the
    Green Haven Correctional Facility in Stormville, NY, and is eligible
    for parole in 2015.

  274. 274 1george1

    Father’s Papers and a Son’s Politics; When Jerry Finkelstein Buys,
    Andrew Stein’s Foes Wonder – By ALISON MITCHELL – Published: April 3, 1992

    Jerry Finkelstein’s business is newspapers.
    The business of his son, Andrew J. Stein, is politics.

    But now the media company that counts Mr. Finkelstein as its
    largest shareholder is buying up weekly newspapers all over the
    New York metropolitan region. Mr. Stein, the City Council President,
    is preparing for a mayoral race. All of which leaves some of his
    political opponents wondering if the family businesses have
    become a little too symbiotic.

    “These are arguable investments,” said Rudolph W. Giuliani,
    a former mayoral candidate, who contends that Mr. Finkelstein
    intends to use the weeklies as a vehicle to further his son’s
    election drive.

    “You’d have to have your head in the sand not to figure out
    what he’s doing,” added Mr. Giuliani, a Republican who lost to
    David N. Dinkins in 1989 and plans to run again.

    Mr. Finkelstein, the 76-year-old former publisher of The New
    York Law Journal and a man with a long personal history in both
    politics and newspapers, indignantly denies that the media company,
    News Communications Inc., is doing anything other than building
    an empire of weeklies. Neither Hurts Nor Helps.

    “I’ve been in the business all my life going back to 1939,” he said,
    refering to his founding of The Civil Service Leader. His son, he
    added, “is an important person in the city.”

    “He doesn’t need a few community papers to help him,” he said.

    Mr. Stein shrugs off his father’s newspaper interests. “I don’t think
    I’m hurt or helped,” he said. “I have a 24-year record in public service.
    It’s going to be looked at. My ideas for the city will be judged by all
    the media. So I don’t think this has any effect one way or the other.”

    Yet the disclaimers do nothing to soothe rivals who remember that
    Mr. Finkelstein was instrumental in his son’s early career, pouring
    money into an extravagant East Side race in 1968 that catapulted
    Mr. Stein, who had shortened his name, into the State Assembly.

    It does not seem to matter that a year and a half before the election,
    the newspapers — in Queens, Manhattan, the Hamptons and Montauk
    and with a total circulation in the hundreds of thousands —
    barely cover Mr. Stein, or that their gossip columns show only the
    most negligible, perhaps just imagined, tendency to criticize his
    potential opponents. New York’s political circles have been abuzz
    with each new purchase and Mr. Finkelstein’s role has become a
    subterranean issue in an unofficial race.

    “Jerry Finkelstein is a very smart man,” said Manhattan Borough
    President Ruth W. Messinger, who says she would not challenge
    Mr. Dinkins but does have mayoral ambitions. “He has always known
    how to protect his investments. His biggest investment is his son.
    It doesn’t hurt to own all the weekly newspapers in two or three
    boroughs. It’s a resource you can always call on if you really need it.”

    Even former Mayor Edward I. Koch, who says he does not believe
    Mr. Finkelstein is involved in anything other than canny business,
    felt compelled to make a public announcement when he became
    a movie reviewer for News Communications.

    “I said I would not be supporting Andy Stein,” Mr. Koch said.
    “And the reason is that I asked him to support me in my last
    election and he said he was for me, but did not endorse me.”
    Mr. Koch said he spoke out to highlight his independence
    from Mr. Finkelstein.

    “I was sure that people would think he was buying me,” he said.
    “I’m sure that was not his intention.”

    Michael Schenkler, the president of News Communications, insists
    that the newspaper chain is a business, not a political enterprise.
    He added that the chain is looking to expand into Nassau County
    and New Jersey. Looking to the Shore

    He noted that while Mr. Finkelstein is the largest shareholder,
    he owns only 20 percent of the company. The second largest
    shareholder, with 12 percent, is Gary L. Ackerman, the Queens
    Congressman who founded the Queens Tribune newspapers,
    now a part of the chain. Mr. Schenkler, the publisher of The
    Queens Tribune, is third, with 8 percent.

    Among the other members of the company’s board are two
    more people with connections to Mr. Stein: Martin McLaughlin,
    a consultant and political adviser to Mr. Stein, and Christopher
    McGrath, who was a deputy to Mr. Stein when he served as
    Manhattan Borough President.

    The chain’s first property was The West Side Spirit
    — now the Manhattan Spirit — founded in 1985.
    In 1988 it purchased Dan’s Papers and The Montauk Pioneer,
    papers that pick up a substantial New York City readership in the
    summers, particularly many influential politicians and business
    leaders. One year later it took over The Queens Tribune, which
    has nine editions, with a total circulation of 146,000.

    Last year, Manhattan’s Our Town paper was acquired, adding
    another 119,000 readers. And last month, News Communications
    signed a letter of intent to buy The Downtown Express,
    The Chelsea Clinton-News and The Westsider, which would
    give the chain five weeklies in Manhattan and bring its city
    and Long Island circulation to about 476,000.

    Mr. Finkelstein said in an interview that the company is finished
    with acquisitions in New York City and needs to diversify because
    the recession will last longer in New York than elsewhere.

    This month, the chain announced plans to acquire two papers
    on the Jersey Shore. The chain has also had sporadic talks over
    the last year or so with two Brooklyn newspaper chains and with
    The Bronx Times Reporter. A Father’s Motives

    The newspapers, most of them distributed free, cover community
    issues that seldom appear in New York’s dailies.

    (LIKE THE STRATFORD STAR or BARD)

    There are profiles and interviews of local elected officials, and gossip
    items that Tom Allon, the editor in chief of The Manhattan Spirit,
    aggressively tries to propel into the gossip pages of the city’s tabloids.

    Mr. Allon says he resents suggestions that he is beholden to anyone.
    He said he almost never talks to Mr. Finkelstein and his paper rarely
    writes anything about Mr. Stein.

    “It’s hard enough to cover this city, but when you’re up against people
    who try to impugn motives that aren’t there it makes it more difficult,”
    Mr. Allon said.

    But he ran right into that perception recently when he printed a gossip
    item, which he also leaked to The New York Post, saying that Mr. Giuliani,
    a former United States Attorney, was a “major player”in rewriting an
    extradition treaty that smoothed the way for deportation of Joseph Doherty,
    an Irish Republican Army member who has been sent to Britain.

    Mr. Giuliani — who denies that he helped rewrite the treaty —
    refused to take a call from the weekly. Instead he passed it on to the
    executive director of his campaign committee who delivered the
    message that “if Jerry wants to interview us about the Doherty matter
    we’d be happy to be interviewed directly by Jerry rather than using an intermediary.”

    Mr. Allon calls the reference to Mr. Finkelstein a “smokescreen.”

    “Giuliani is a smart politician,” he said. “When attacked for something
    he will wildly counterattack and try to deflect attention from the issue,
    and that’s what he’s doing here.” Record of Publishing

    Mr. Giuliani, who is collecting a small archive of items from News
    Communications’ newspapers critical of himself or other potential
    rivals of Mr. Stein, contends that the gossip columns are being used
    for “hit jobs.” He noted that during a week in which Mr. Stein was
    receiving coverage in the city’s dailies — much of it negative —
    for his lavish January fund-raising event, the News Communications
    gossip column did not carry a word of it.

    But it carried items on Mr. Giuliani, Mr. Dinkins and Ms. Messinger.
    Mr. Allon said that he felt the fund-raiser had already received
    saturation coverage in the dailies.

    The Dinkins administration, meanwhile, is staying above the fray.
    Leland T. Jones, the Mayor’s press secretary, said that like
    “anyone who knows anything about the newspaper business in New York,”
    he was aware of News Communications’ growth. But he added,
    “I think we have faith in the objectivity and integrity of the reporters
    and editors.”

    As he sits in his midtown office, decorated with pictures of his
    children and prominent elected officials, Mr. Finkelstein insists
    that his long career as a publisher should end the speculation
    about his intentions.

    “The record is important,” he said. “The record is that in the 25 years
    that I published the Law Journal, I don’t remember one story about
    Andy Stein. The record is there.”

    Photo: “He doesn’t need a few community papers to help him,”
    said Jerry Finkelstine of his son, Andrew J. Stein.
    (Angel Franco/The New York Times) Chart:
    “LOCAL PAPERS: Finkelstein’s Weekly Empire”
    Newspapers owned or being bought by the News Communications
    Inc. chain, and the circulation they claim.
    The company’s biggest shareholder is Jerry Finkelstein, father of
    City Council President Andrew J. Stein. CURRENTLY OWNED QUEENS
    TRIBUNE 146,000, free weekly.
    OUR TOWN 119,000; free weekly in Manhattan.
    MANHATTAN SPIRIT 76,000, free weekly.
    DAN’S PAPERS 80,000 peak circulation in the summer;
    chain of weeklies in eastern Long Island.
    MONTAUK PIONEER 10,000 in summer.
    BEING BOUGHT Company has signed letters of intent to purchase
    these papers.
    DOWNTOWN EXPRESS CHELSEA-CLINTON NEWS WESTSIDER 60,000
    combined for the Enlightenment Press chain of three Manhattan
    free weeklies.
    OCEAN COUNTY REVIEW SUN ‘N’ FUN More than 35,000 combined
    for two Jersey Shore papers.
    (Source: News Communications Inc.) (pg. B4)

    —-

    In Manhattan Inc, M Finklestein claimed to be strongly behind Nelson
    Rockefeller, Mario Cuomo and Cuomo’s sons, as well as Guiliani.

    His Law Magazine also did puff pieces about Judges, U. S. Attorneys,
    State Prosecutors, all levels of politicians, where he would claim to
    not publicly use power. If he was as powerful as he claimed he might
    be responsible for the cocaine invasion of the USA and degeneration
    of quality of life for most Americans … I do not know.

    I do KNOW that among others, I was shown certain people who seemed
    to have the same agent

    Disgraced moneyman to the stars Kenneth Starr pleaded guilty
    Friday to charges he masterminded a $60 million Ponzi scheme –
    but his pole-dancing wife was nowhere to be found.

    A solemn Starr, 66, copped to charges of wire fraud, money
    laundering and investment adviser fraud.

    “Instead of using my clients’ money as I promised, I knowingly used
    it for my own purposes,” Starr told Manhattan Federal Magistrate
    Theodore Katz.

    Starr, whose clients included Uma Thurman, Wesley Snipes and
    Martin Scorsese, is likely to receive a 10- to 12-year prison sentence.
    He’s still facing paying back as much as $50 million in restitution.

    “Kenneth Starr’s is a tale of fiction and fraud, in which he played
    the role of legitimate investment adviser to a cast of unsuspecting
    victims,” U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said.

    “It is also a cautionary tale for everyone who must rely on financial
    professionals.”

    Starr, dressed in dark blue jail garb, spoke slowly and clearly during
    the 45-minute plea that was witnessed by reporters and lawyers but
    not by any of his former high-powered clients nor his ex-stripper
    third wife, Diane Passage.

    She and her son are still living in the luxury condominium at
    433 E. 74th St. which Starr has forfeited for partial restitution
    of his theft.

    “She knows she has to go,” a friend told the Daily News. “She’s been
    packing for weeks, and she’s enrolled her son in a school in a
    different neighborhood.”

    Passage referred questions to her lawyer, Giovanni Di Stefano
    who told the Daily News that she would be writing a book.

    “I advised her not to go today,” Di Stefano said.
    “She’ll be at the sentencing Dec. 15.”

    The plea will not affect a Securities and Exchange Commission
    case against Starr and his wife, nor will it affect a related case
    against former City Council President Andrew Stein – who is
    charged with lying to the IRS regarding a Starr investment.

    Starr, his lawyers and the government have yet to fight out
    how much restitution Starr must pay to his victims, who lost
    an estimated $20 million-to-$50 million.

    “You will all be surprised how much less the restitution and
    forfeiture will be,” said his lawyer, Flora Edwards.
    “He’s accepted responsibility for what he did but not for more
    than what he did.”

    Edwards added that Starr could soon be out on bail “to set his
    affairs in order.” Federal District Judge Shira Scheindlin, who
    will sentence Starr on Dec. 15, has previously set $10 million bail.

    sshifrel@nydailynews.com

    ——
    These people remind me of Dick Miron and Dick Burturla.

    I really do not know if there are ANY decent people in certain circles?

  275. 275 1george1

    Wall Street is a 1987 American drama film released by 20th Century Fox.
    It was directed by Oliver Stone and stars Michael Douglas, Charlie Sheen
    and Daryl Hannah.
    The screenplay was written by Stanley Weiser and Stone.
    The film tells the story of Bud Fox (Sheen), a young stockbroker
    desperate to succeed who becomes involved with his hero, Gordon Gekko (Douglas), a wealthy, unscrupulous corporate raider.

    I saw this movie about Oct 9, 1987, about 10 days prior to stock crash.
    Records have been changed to indicate it was released Dec 1987.

    Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps is an American drama film directed
    by Oliver Stone. It is a sequel to the 1987 film Wall Street, and the
    first sequel Stone has directed.
    Michael Douglas reprises his role as Gordon Gekko in the film.
    The film stars Shia LaBeouf, Josh Brolin, Carey Mulligan,
    and Frank Langella in supporting roles.

    Set in New York City, the film takes place 23 years after the
    original, revolving around the 2008 financial crisis.

    The film is set 23 years after the first film, in June 2008,
    and Gordon Gekko has just been released from prison.
    Despite his initial attempts to warn Wall Street of the
    forthcoming economic downturn and stock market crash,
    no one in the financial world believes him due to his
    conviction for financial crimes.

    NEW CRASH COMING, CAUSED BY THE SAME BAD STARS?
    or
    END OF THE PRECIPITOUS DROP?
    —-
    SAME CIRCLE JERKS?

  276. 276 1george1

    Americans struggle to regain their shrunken wealth
    Americans’ wealth drops for first time since early 2009,
    brought down by lower stock prices

    Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer, On Friday
    September 17, 2010, 7:20 pm EDT WASHINGTON (AP)

    — Americans’ long journey to regain the wealth they
    lost in the recession is stalled.

    Households failed even to run in place during the April-June
    quarter as sinking stock prices eroded wealth. S
    tocks have since recovered about two-thirds of those losses.
    But based on last quarter’s data, household net worth would
    have to surge 23 percent to reach its pre-recession peak.

    Net worth — the value of assets like homes and investments,
    minus debts like mortgages and credit cards
    — fell 2.7 percent last quarter, or $1.5 trillion, the Federal
    Reserve said Friday. It now stands at $53.5 trillion.


    That’s above the bottom hit during the recession, $48.8 trillion
    in the first quarter of 2009. But it’s far below the pre-recession
    peak in wealth of $65.8 trillion.

    The drop from April to June was the first quarterly decline in
    Americans’ wealth since early 2009. Before then, net worth
    had risen slowly for four straight quarters.

    Economists generally think household wealth has ticked up in the
    July-to-September quarter so far, because of higher stock prices.
    Yet given last quarter’s setback and expectations of scant gains
    ahead, some economists have pushed back their forecast for when
    Americans will regain all their lost wealth: Not until the middle of
    this decade.

    Their stagnant wealth will likely keep Americans from spending freely

    — and the struggling economy from picking up strength.

    Consumers tend to spend according to how wealthy they feel.
    And their spending accounts for about 70 percent of the economy.

    In the meantime, people are saving more and paring debt,
    Friday’s data showed.

    —-
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  277. 277 1george1

    One reason why economists foresee only slight gains in wealth is they expect real-estate values to stay weak. Residential real-estate accounts for 32 percent of net worth; individual stocks make up 13 percent. The balance includes retirement accounts, taxable mutual funds, bank accounts, bonds and possessions such as cars and jewelry.

    During the recession, sinking home equity and stock prices made shoppers skittish. More than a year after the recession is thought to have ended, the housing and stock markets remain fragile. That’s why most Americans aren’t spending as much as they typically do after recessions.

    Consumer spending grew at an annual rate of just 2 percent last quarter, about the same pace as in the first three months of this year. Most economists think Americans will spend at about the same pace, or only slightly better, in the current quarter.

    By contrast, after the 1981-82 recession, consumer spending averaged a robust 6.5 percent pace during 1983.

    “Consumer spending is going to show only stunted growth this year because the wherewithal to spend — jobs, income, wealth — are only inching higher,” said Ken Mayland, president of ClearView Economics.

    Another reason shoppers are unlikely to ramp up their spending: Their faith in the economy is sagging. Consumer confidence dropped in September, according to the University of Michigan/Reuters’ consumer sentiment index fell released Friday.

    more

  278. 278 1george1

    9/20 – 5:43
    354,754 hits

    Eli’s coming
    Better hide your heart

  279. 279 1george1

    NY TIMES:
    Patricia Reid is not in her 70s, an age when many Americans continue to work. She is not even in her 60s. She is just 57.

    More from NYTimes.com:

    • After Training, Still Scrambling for Employment

    • Peddling Relief, Firms Put Debtors in Deeper Hole

    • Looking Ahead to the Spend-Down Years

    But four years after losing her job she cannot, in her darkest moments, escape a nagging thought: she may never work again.

    College educated, with a degree in business administration, she is experienced, having worked for two decades as an internal auditor and analyst at Boeing before losing that job.

    But that does not seem to matter, not for her and not for a growing number of people in their 50s and 60s who desperately want or need to work to pay for retirement and who are starting to worry that they may be discarded from the work force — forever.

    Since the economic collapse, there are not enough jobs being created for the population as a whole, much less for those in the twilight of their careers.

    Of the 14.9 million unemployed, more than 2.2 million are 55 or older. Nearly half of them have been unemployed six months or longer, according to the Labor Department. The unemployment rate in the group — 7.3 percent — is at a record, more than double what it was at the beginning of the latest recession.

    After other recent downturns, older people who lost jobs fretted about how long it would take to return to the work force and worried that they might never recover their former incomes. But today, because it will take years to absorb the giant pool of unemployed at the economy’s recent pace, many of these older people may simply age out of the labor force before their luck changes.

    MORE ….

    NY POST:
    THE POVERTY PUZZLE – WHY AREN’T RATES WORSE
    By LAWRENCE M. MEAD
    Last Updated: 5:07 PM, September 20, 2010
    Posted: 12:15 AM, September 20, 2010

    The government announced last Thursday that in 2009 14.3 percent of Americans were poor — up from 13.2 percent the year before. The question we should be asking is: Why has poverty risen so little?

    The increase over 2008 was smaller than many expected, and the previous year’s rise was even smaller. Between 2007 and 2009, despite the deepest downturn since the Great Depression, the poverty rate rose by only 1.8 points, even as the unemployment rate almost doubled — from under 5 percent to nearly 10 percent.

    The recent additions to the poor population clearly reflect the recession. Poverty would’ve risen more without unemployment benefits and other safety-net programs that protect the jobless. Yet it’s a mistake to blame most poverty on the economy — because most poor Americans don’t work even in good times and thus are little affected by the recession.

    In 2009, only 36 percent of poor adults age 16 and over worked, compared to 65 percent of the general population. Only 9 percent worked full-time and full-year, compared to 42 percent of the general population.

    One might blame these low figures on the recession, but the share of poor adults who worked never exceeded 43 percent even in the booming 1990s and has since declined. Those thrown into poverty by the recession are only the icing on a large and nonworking cake.

    Of poor adults who didn’t work in 2009, only 12 percent blamed inability to find a job. That was a big jump over 2007, when the figure was only 5 percent — but it was still the least common reason given. Many more jobless poor said they were ill, retired, in school or needed in the home. Nonworkers in the general population say much the same; only 10 percent of them cited lack of jobs.

    In and out of poverty, the main barrier to working in America isn’t the job market but the demands of private life.

    Welfare reform in the 1990s sharply raised the share of welfare mothers who were expected to work. That pressure (along with low unemployment and wage subsidies) drove up work by poor women, both on and off welfare, in the later 1990s. By 1999, 64 percent of poor single mothers with children were working.

    But in the last decade, much of that gain was lost as the pressure to work subsided and the economy worsened. Meanwhile, low work levels among poor men haven’t improved. So, overall, the poor population is still largely nonworking.

    Reformers had hoped to turn welfare into a form of unemployment insurance: Poor mothers would go on aid when they couldn’t find a job, then leave it when they could. But the welfare rolls have risen little in the recession, suggesting that most poor mothers can still find work.

    For poor men, the story is similar. I interviewed state and local officials in six states in late 2008 and early 2009, a period when national unemployment soared from 6 to 9 percent. I asked them how easy it was for poor men owing child support or ex-offenders leaving prison to find work. Most said that the recession had made it somewhat harder, yet many jobs were still available.

    The principal victims of the recession aren’t the poor but the middle class, which has often lost well-paying jobs that it finds hard to replace. While finding some job is still fairly easy in America, finding a good job able to support a middle-class lifestyle is much harder.

    None of this denies that poverty is a serious problem. So are unemployment and inequality. Yet, more than we’d like to admit, these problems are largely separate. Fixing one won’t fix the others.

    Middle-class people fear unemployment because their lifestyle demands steady income, but they’re seldom poor, because they work most of the time. Conversely, the poor suffer from low income because they seldom work regularly, but, for the same reason, unemployment largely passes them by.

    Whether they work depends less on economic conditions than on whether they can organize their lives for employment. That, in turn, hinges on whether government promotes work by rewarding it with benefits and also by enforcing it on groups like welfare mothers, who have an obligation to work.

    If the poor work regularly, they usually escape poverty. Yet the jobs they get are usually low-paying, so the problem of inequality remains.

    We shouldn’t picture most poor adults as thrown into poverty by joblessness. Rather, their challenge is to work steadily enough so that they can suffer from unemployment as the middle class does.

    By working more, many welfare mothers have become more vulnerable but also better off and more integrated. Government now needs to achieve the same for nonworking men.

    Lawrence M. Mead is a profes sor of politics and public policy at New York University.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/the_poverty_puzzle_vYTORV6E4Fwl7bUoPDwiUN#ixzz106oRnnqK

    —- ELI’S COMING – Better hide your HEART

    More on The Coming War Over Public-Sector Pensions
    Nick Gillespie | January 4, 2010

    When we last checked in on public-sector pensions, things were not going so well. For current and future taxpayers, that is, who are on the hook for big bucks and big obligations. For public employees, things are going pretty swell, as this Cincinnati Enquirer article makes clear.

    Retirement incomes for the most experienced government employees top out at 88 percent of their active-duty pay. Unlike most private-sector workers, whose retirement is driven by the strength of the stock market and their 401-k plans, the pensions for government employees are guaranteed.

    In addition to higher average retirement incomes, government retirees in Ohio also enjoy government-sponsored health care, can retire as young as 48 for police and firefighters, and have the opportunity to ‘retire’ and collect a full pension while going back to work, often at full pay for doing the same job. Such ‘double-dippers’ were paid more than $741 million by the State Teachers Retirement System last year and $240 million by the Public Employees Retirement System, records show.

    In Toledo, even the mayor is a double-dipper.

    Since starting his current term in January 2006, Toledo Mayor Carty Finkbeiner has drawn his annual salary of $136,000 in addition to a state pension for more than two decades in elected and unelected positions. He is leaving office on Monday.

    And because he is already receiving a Public Employees Retirement System pension, Toledo taxpayers have paid $75,221 into an annuity as an additional retirement fund for Finkbeiner.

    Having no knowledge of Carty Finkbeiner until reading this article, I take no position on his contribution to the great state of Ohio, whose public-sector pension issues are absolutely representative of everywhere else in the nation. But as a taxpaying resident of the Buckeye State, I do take a position on his double-dipping and the robust payouts to public-sector employees, especially double-dippers (which I know is legal in many instances). Ohio government at all levels has not fully funded its pensions, meaning that either public-sector retirees gets a growing share of my income until I die or the “guaranteed” retirement for public-sector employees gets cut, just like it gets cut in the private sector. The public sector at all levels should be switched to defined-contribution plans immediately (this is happening in the private sector for all sorts of reasons, the historical inability and/or unwillingness of companies to fully fund pensions on an ongoing basis being part of the problem). This is already happening in many parts of the public sector (Ohio’s teachers plan, for instance, switched at least partly to such a system a decade ago) and it should go full steam ahead, if only to make it easier to account for future liabilities.

    The Enquirer reports further

    The pension cost to local governments in Ohio now stands at $4.1 billion a year. If current trends continue, the pension costs will grow by $604 million to $768 million during the next five years, according to a Columbus Dispatch computer analysis. The costs are directly related to the size of government payrolls.

    One of the old arguments about lavish (relative to the private sector) retirement benefits for public-sector employees was that they were simply getting deferred compensation, that they might have job security, but they got paid less during their careers, so good retirement benefits were the payoff. This is no longer true, with the average public-sector worker making about $71,000 and the average private-sector drone pulling only $40,000 nationally. Plus great job security, more days off, generally sweeter health-care coverage, ETC

  280. 280 1george1

    PORTIA – CHRIS – JEZE

    Care to comment?

  281. 281 jezebel282

    George,

    “Care to comment?”

    On what, pray tell?

  282. 282 1george1

    Note the difference between middle class who always had decent jobs
    and need decent jobs to stay middle class, and the underclass who do
    not get decent jobs and can not get out of the underclass.

    The Marshall Plan set up Europe after WW II where there were no political
    infrastructures nor businesses !!
    Much worse than USA today.

    Now Europeans have jobs with good pay and benefits, and businesses seem
    to be relatively successful?

    They pay much higher Energy Prices.
    Yet with decent pay + benefits they seem to afford heat / transportation?

  283. 283 1george1

    Just a Joke, where I adjusted for Jeze’s appreciation! 😉

    Pinnocchio, Snow White and Superman are out for a little
    stroll in town one afternoon enjoying the sunshine.

    As they walked, they come across a sign that read,
    “Beauty contest for the most beautiful woman in the world!”

    “I am entering!” said Snow White.

    After half an hour, she comes out and they ask her, “Well, how’d ya do?”

    “I won First Place!,” said Snow White.

    They continue walking and they see another sign. It says,
    “Contest for the strongest man in the World.”

    “I’m entering,” says Superman.
    After half an hour, he returns and they ask him, “How did you make out?”

    “I won First Place, too,” answers Superman. “Did you ever have a doubt?”

    They continue walking when they see a third sign that says,
    “Contest! Who is the greatest liar in the World.”

    Pinocchio quickly enters the contest.

    After half an hour, he returns with tears in his eyes.

    “What happened?” they asked.

    “Who the hell are Jim and Dick Mironi?” asked Pinocchio.

  284. 284 jezebel282

    From Portia:

    I’m not sure how relevant this is to the topic at hand, but if you wish:

    “What do you know about European Health Care, as set up derived
    from the USA Marshall Plan?” – I am familiar with the health care systems of some European countries (for example, France). While the Marshall Plan certainly played a role in post-war development of these systems, I think many are rather unique to their country of origin. Also, the Marshall Plan did not affect a number of European countries at all, so I wouldn’t go so far as to group them all together.

    “Isn’t it paid for by high Petro costs?” – To my knowledge, no. In a country like France, health care is paid for with a combination of public (tax dollars and borrowed tax dollars) and private funds.

    “Portia, how can you explain $ 80 barrel energy cost, when it peaked at $ 44 range in 1982 and $ 147 June 2008, but was $ 12.58 bbl Dec 1998?” – I can’t explain that except to say that the price of oil is largely determined by the OPEC cartel.

    “What happened to those OIL RICH fields in IRAQ that the USA occupied since 2003? Just curious?” – Two things: fist, more oil has been discovered, particularly in the previously oil bereft Sunni center, providing, as Christopher Hitchens has written, a geologic basis for a federal republic; second, the government of Iraq has auctioned development rights to global oil companies. On the latter point, Vivienne Walt wrote in Time:

    “Those who claim that the U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003 to get control of the country’s giant oil reserves will be left scratching their heads by the results of last weekend’s auction of Iraqi oil contracts: Not a single U.S. company secured a deal in the auction of contracts that will shape the Iraqi oil industry for the next couple of decades. Two of the most lucrative of the multi-billion-dollar oil contracts went to two countries which bitterly opposed the U.S. invasion — Russia and China — while even Total Oil of France, which led the charge to deny international approval for the war at the U.N. Security Council in 2003, won a bigger stake than the Americans in the most recent auction….

    Rather than giving foreign oil companies control over Iraqi reserves… the oil will remain the property of the Iraqi state, and the foreign companies will pump it for a fixed price per barrel.

    Far from behaving like the war-ravaged, bankrupt country that it is, Iraq heavily weighted the contracts in its own favor, demanding a low per-barrel price and signing bonuses of up to $150 million. Only one U.S. company, Occidental Petroleum Corp., joined the bidding… and lost. (ExxonMobil had hoped to land the lucrative Rumaila field, but lost out to an alliance between the Chinese National Petroleum Company and BP because it declined the Iraqi government’s $2-a-barrel fee.)

    Russia’s Lukoil, CNPC, and RoyalDutchShell accepted fees of between $1.15 and $1.40 for every barrel they produce (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1948787,00.html#ixzz10HnXGG7e ).”

    I kind of wish the conspiracists were at least partly right on this one…

  285. 285 1george1

    “I can’t explain that except to say that the price of oil is largely
    determined by the OPEC cartel.”

    GOOGLE / WIKIPEDIA > TX RR commission.


    GEORGE I had the AP news story
    In June 2008 Iraq awarded oil contracts for developing all oil fields
    to the big 6 USA OIL companies. Then the revisionists took over

    In 2008 the Iraqi government tried to award oil fields to Western companies through a no-bid process.

    That prompted objections from a “group of United States senators,”

    who wanted greater transparency, and the plan was replaced with an auction.

    Held June 30, 2009, the public auction largely failed to attract the
    lucrative offers Iraq sought.
    Only a single deal was struck from among the six giant oil fields and
    two gas fields put up for bid.

    The single successful contract went to a joint venture of BP and the
    China National Petroleum Corporation for the largest field offered:
    Rumaila, near the southern city of Basra, which has proven reserves
    of more than 17 billion barrels.

    Reflecting its growing thirst for oil imports, China may be the main
    beneficiary so far of Iraq’s most significant attempt to open up its
    oil industry since it was nationalized by Saddam Hussein in 1972.

    The Iraqi government says that in order to maintain security and pay
    the salaries of hundreds of thousands of its employees, it has to try to exponentially raise oil production, which accounts for about 95 percent
    of the country’s foreign exchange earnings.

    The government has estimated that its oil sector needs $50 billion
    in investment on top of the more than $8 billion it has spent during
    the past several years to try to increase capacity.

    Its plan is to raise oil production to 6 million barrels a day by 2015,
    from the current level of 2.4 million.

    ————-

    2.4 million bbl was Saddam’s rate of production.

    Isn’t it strange the military and Halliburton and Bechtel could not double
    or triple or quadruple OIL PRODUCTION where:
    – Oil fields have OIL near the surface = inexpensive.
    – There are existing highways
    – There are existing pipelines
    – There are existing ports
    – There are existing storage
    – There are existing refining + loading
    – There are existing airports
    – There are existing railroads

    Would there be constuction needed? YES
    If there was a sense of urgency for maximum production, like WW II …
    or if the OBJECTIVE is to increase OIL / GAS / COAL pricing for Bush /
    Cheney / Rockefeller lobbyists buying up senators ….

  286. 286 1george1

    CT. POST Storm knocks WICC off the air
    Published: 12:40 p.m., Thursday, September 23, 2010

    BRIDGEPORT — The WICC radio station was missing from the airwaves
    Thursday, a casualty of Wednesday night’s thunderstorm.

    The 600 AM station went silent after power went out at its transmitters
    on Pleasure Beach. Then the backup generator failed.

    Quinnipiac poll shows questioners felt there was a content improvement. 😉

    —-

    UNITED NATIONS – Exhorting world leaders to push past years of cynicism and pessimism, President Barack Obama challenged the countries of the United Nations on Thursday to unite around peace efforts that he said could achieve agreement within a year to create an independent Palestine and a secure Israel.

    Obama, in a speech to the U.N. General Assembly, urged fellow world leaders to press forward with renewed determination in the quest for Mideast peace, an effort that he acknowledged has encountered “few peaks and many valleys.”

    Without an agreement, he said, “more blood will be shed” and “this Holy Land will remain a symbol of our differences, instead of our common humanity.”

    Starting Sept 24, there will be an elimination of all Weapons Trading by the
    members of the Security Council and we seek and end of Weapons Trading
    and drug, slave, and munnitions trading by all UN members…. 😉

  287. 287 jezebel282

    From George:

    THE 545 PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR AMERICA’S WOES BY CHARLEY REESE

    1980s Orlando Sentinel……. which appears timeless and appropriate to today
    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them. (Like Stratford?)

    Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The president does. (Locally = The Mayor > CT. State = The Govenor)

    You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations.
    The House of Representatives does.
    You and I don’t write the tax code. Congress does.
    You and I don’t set fiscal policy. Congress does.
    You and I don’t control monetary policy. The Federal Reserve Bank does. (Locally = The Town Council >
    CT. State = The Legislature – Town / State / National Committees choose candidates)

    One hundred Senators, 435 Congressmen, one President and nine
    Supreme Court Justices – 545 human beings out of the 300 million
    – are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the
    domestic problems that plague this country.

    (War Profiteering of Factories and Energy pricing – control of financial
    / other markets – Drugs – Crime – Vice – Political/Justice)

    (Please refer to Eisenhower’s 1961 Military Industrial (Congressional)
    Complex and Scientific Technological Elite speach)

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that
    problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally
    chartered but private central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason
    They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator,
    a congressman or a president to do one cotton – picking thing.

    I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash.
    The politician has the power to accept or reject it.

    No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility
    to determine how he votes.

    A CONFIDENCE CONSPIRACY

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you
    that what they did is not their fault. (like uh,,, Stratford?)

    They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an
    excessive amount of gall.

    No normal human being would have the gall of a SPEAKER, who stood
    up and criticized G.W. BUSH for creating deficits (Old Article)

    The president can only propose a budget.
    He cannot force the Congress to accept it.
    The Constitution, which is the supreme law – of – the land, gives sole
    responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and
    approving appropriations and taxes.

    Who is the speaker of the House?
    She is the leader of the majority party.
    She and fellow Democrats, not the president,
    can approve any budget they want.
    If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto.

    REPLACE THE SCOUNDRELS

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot
    replace 545 people who stand convicted —

    by present facts – of incompetence and irresponsibility.
    (Stratford has 50,000 residents > 32 elected offices controlled by
    2 political Town Committees and pretender Independents?)

    I can’t think of a single domestic problem, from an unfair tax code
    to defense overruns, that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.

    When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise power
    of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what
    they want to exist.

    I
    f the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.
    If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red.
    If the Marines are in IRAQ, it’s because they want them in IRAQ.
    (15% of WORLD’S OIL / Natural GAS)
    ( – Did Rumsfedt / Cheney / JCoS extend delay this War’s end? )

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom
    they hire and whose jobs they can abolish;

    to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject;

    to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from
    whom they can take this power.

    Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exist
    disembodied mystical forces like (“O.P.E.C” – “Drug Cartels”)

    “the economy,” “inflation” or “politics” that prevent them from
    doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.
    They, and they alone, have the power.
    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people
    who are their bosses – provided the voters have the gumption to
    manage their own employees.

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess.

  288. 288 1george1

    ‘Macro’ Forces in Market Confound Stock Pickers
    by Tom Lauricella and Gregory Zuckerman
    Monday, September 27, 2010
    WALL STREET JOURNAL

    The market turmoil has battered many investors over the past few years. But for stock pickers like Neuberger Berman LLC’s David Pedowitz, it has made their entire investing approach feel like an exercise in futility.

    Mr. Pedowitz buys and sells stocks based on research and analysis of individual companies. His investment strategy, he says, has been upended by a tidal wave of “macro” forces — big-picture market movers like the economy, politics and regulation.

    More and more investors aren’t bothering to pore through corporate reports searching for gems and duds, but are trading big buckets of stocks, bonds and commodities based mainly on macro concerns. As a result, all kinds of stocks — good as well as bad — are moving more in lock step.

    “It’s unbelievably frustrating,” says Mr. Pedowitz, who helps manage $4.5 billion for wealthy clients and has 25 years of investing experience. “It’s enough to make you crazy.”

    That kind of talk has become widespread on Wall Street as stock pickers discover that long-held investment strategies are no longer working very well.

    Some data suggest that stock pickers are having a harder time outperforming the market. Each year between 1995 and 2007, for example, on average, 50% of mutual funds focusing on large, fast-growth companies beat the Russell 1000 Growth Index, a benchmark for that category, according to Morningstar Inc. Over the past year, only about 24% of those funds beat that index.

    The stock portfolio Mr. Pedowitz helps run at Neuberger Berman has managed to stay ahead of the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index so far this year, he says, but its value has been whipped back and forth far more than usual.

    Stock pickers say macro forces began moving stocks in a big way during the 2008 financial crisis, and that has continued this year following the European debt crisis. Traders also are focusing on the potential for a double-dip recession to hit corporate profits; on government deficits; and especially on what central banks will do about stimulus programs that pumped cash into the economy.

    A host of other factors is contributing to the macro trend. The rise of exchange-traded funds, which typically track broad market indexes or benchmarks, has made it easier for investors to make broad bets on commodities, bonds and currencies. Such funds now account for 30% of daily stock-trading volume. Individual investors and pension funds have been pulling money out of stocks, leaving shares more vulnerable to trading by hedge funds with short time horizons.

    Whether such forces will alter the stock-investing landscape permanently is anyone’s guess.

    “Stock picking is a dead art form,” contends James Bianco of Bianco Research. “Macro themes dominate the market now more than ever.”

    THERE IS MORE …..

    WHO HAS MONEY?

    BIG OIL
    FOREIGN BIG OIL
    WAR STOCKS
    DRUG DEALERS – Legal + Illegal
    Poster Boy Rich people / companies – Buffet + Gate + Oracle + IBM + INTEL
    and the like.

    Supporting a true bottom within publicly held companies are people who
    are long vested with stock buy ins and options.
    GE has programs for likely hundreds of thousands of employees and ex-es,
    who automatically buy shares with set investment numbers. Those GE people
    if they held their program have been able to buy twice what they could buy
    a few years ago, with the same money.

    GE also has earnings and was a good dividend play in the past.

    Many of the DOT COM and ENERGY START UPS have NOT generated profits
    and are Vulnerable to an OIL / GAS price crash, which would destroy the
    probable ROI, based on devastated PE.

    However that ENERGY COST CRASH would be great for the GENERAL ECONOMY,
    and ESPECIALLY TRANSPORTATION.

    If I am ROCKEFELLER / BUSH I would have bought into various Sectors over 1
    year ago and manipulate the markets to the suckers for respective bubbles
    and sell parts of my shares to the overpriced. Then like in the movies WALL
    STREET, I would pull one plug + then others causing speculation capitulation

    Once the powers that are control everything, then they will force whatever
    changes, they want changed.
    It could be for the better.
    If you believe that, I have some land in FL for you.

  289. 289 1george1

    Wikipedia source:
    Primogenitor?

    Presidents related to British royalty

    George Washington (descendant of Edward III of England)
    Thomas Jefferson (descendant of Edward III of England)
    James Madison (descendant of Edward I of England)
    James Monroe (descendant of Edward III of England)
    John Quincy Adams (descendant of Edward III of England)
    William Henry Harrison and his grandson, Benjamin Harrison
    (descendants of Edward I of England)
    Zachary Taylor (descendant of Edward I of England)
    Franklin Pierce (descendant of Henry I of England)
    Rutherford Hayes (descendant of William I of Scotland)
    Grover Cleveland (descendant of Edward I of England)
    Theodore Roosevelt (descendant of James I of Scotland and Edward III of England)
    William Taft (descendant of Edward III of England)
    Warren Harding (descendant of Henry II of England)
    Calvin Coolidge (descendant of Edward I of England)
    Herbert Hoover (descendant of Edward III of England)
    Franklin Roosevelt (descendant of James II of Scotland)
    Harry S. Truman (descendant of Robert III of Scotland)
    Richard Nixon (descendant of Henry II of England)
    Gerald Ford (descendant of Edward I of England)
    Jimmy Carter (descendant of Henry II of England)
    George H.W. Bush and his son, George W. Bush
    (descendants of Edward I of England and Robert II of Scotland)
    Barack Obama
    (descendant of Edward I of England and William the Lion of Scotland)

    As a result, all of the listed people are direct descendants of
    Alfred the Great. All but one of them are also descended from
    William the Conqueror with the exception of Rutherford Hayes.

    Most of these royal ancestors were born before the Black Death
    killed much of the population of Britain in 1349.

    In addition, according to Genealogics and Roglo,
    HM Queen Elizabeth II is among the closest living
    relatives of George Washington, through their
    descent from Augustus Warner, Burgess of Virginia.

    WHO KNOWS IF ANY OF THE ABOVE or BELOW ARE TRUE?

  290. 290 1george1

    Who knows how much is true?

    I read in a Military book that woodrow wilson and teddy roosevelt
    were cousins? I did not see confirmation here.
    By marriage?

    The United States Presidents who are related to each other by direct descent are:

    John Adams and John Quincy Adams (father and son)
    William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison (grandfather and grandson)
    George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush (father and son)
    Two other pairs of Presidents have shared a surname. Andrew Johnson and Lyndon Johnson have no known relationship. Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt were fifth cousins, though they were more closely related through Franklin’s wife Eleanor Roosevelt (née Roosevelt), who was Theodore’s niece.

    This is a list of some of the closer blood relations, other than direct descent, between U.S. Presidents. (See Cousin chart to understand the terms used here.)

    [edit] Second cousins
    James Madison and Zachary Taylor
    [edit] Third cousins
    Martin Van Buren and Theodore Roosevelt (three times removed)
    Martin Van Buren and Franklin Roosevelt (four times removed)
    John Adams and Calvin Coolidge (five times removed)
    James Madison and Barack Obama (nine times removed)
    [edit] Fourth cousins
    John Tyler and William Henry Harrison (once removed)
    Ulysses Grant and Franklin D. Roosevelt (once removed)
    John Adams and Millard Fillmore (three times removed)
    John Quincy Adams and Franklin D. Roosevelt (three times removed)
    Zachary Taylor and Franklin D. Roosevelt (half-cousins, three times removed)
    James Garfield and George H. W. Bush (three times removed)
    Lyndon Johnson and Barack Obama (three times removed)
    John Quincy Adams and Calvin Coolidge (four times removed)
    Franklin Pierce and Calvin Coolidge (four times removed)
    James Garfield and George W. Bush (four times removed)
    John Adams and William Taft (five times removed)
    Franklin Pierce and Herbert Hoover (five times removed)
    Millard Fillmore and George H. W. Bush (five times removed)
    Millard Fillmore and George W. Bush (six times removed)
    [edit] Fifth cousins
    Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt
    Millard Fillmore and Grover Cleveland (once removed)
    Rutherford Hayes and Grover Cleveland (once removed)
    John Tyler and Benjamin Harrison (once removed)
    James Garfield and William Taft (once removed)
    John Quincy Adams and Millard Fillmore (twice removed)
    Millard Fillmore and Warren Harding (twice removed)
    Ulysses Grant and Calvin Coolidge (three times removed)
    John Quincy Adams and William Taft (four times removed)
    Millard Fillmore and Herbert Hoover (four times removed)
    Franklin Pierce and George H. W. Bush (four times removed)
    Grover Cleveland and Gerald Ford (four times removed)
    Millard Fillmore and Gerald Ford (five times removed)
    Franklin Pierce and George W. Bush (five times removed)
    [edit] Sixth cousins
    Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter
    Millard Fillmore and William Taft (once removed)
    Ulysses Grant and Grover Cleveland (once removed)
    Rutherford Hayes and Franklin Roosevelt (once removed)
    Grover Cleveland and William Taft (once removed)
    Franklin Pierce and Franklin Roosevelt (twice removed)
    James Garfield and Calvin Coolidge (twice removed)
    William Taft and Franklin Roosevelt (twice removed)
    Calvin Coolidge and Franklin D. Roosevelt (twice removed)
    Calvin Coolidge and George H. W. Bush (twice removed)
    Franklin Roosevelt and Gerald Ford (twice removed)
    Ulysses Grant and Gerald Ford (three times removed)
    Rutherford Hayes and Gerald Ford (three times removed)
    Rutherford Hayes and George H. W. Bush (three times removed)
    William Taft and George H. W. Bush (three times removed)
    Calvin Coolidge and George W. Bush (three times removed)
    Franklin Roosevelt and George H. W. Bush (three times removed)
    Millard Fillmore and Calvin Coolidge (four times removed)
    Rutherford Hayes and George W. Bush (four times removed)
    William Taft and George W. Bush (four times removed)
    Franklin Roosevelt and George W. Bush (four times removed)
    Ulysses Grant and George H. W. Bush (five times removed)
    Ulysses Grant and George W. Bush (six times removed)
    [edit] Seventh cousins
    Millard Fillmore and Ulysses Grant
    Benjamin Harrison and William Taft
    Gerald Ford and George H. W. Bush
    William Taft and Calvin Coolidge (once removed)
    Millard Fillmore and Franklin D. Roosevelt (once removed)
    Gerald Ford and George W. Bush (once removed)
    Grover Cleveland and George H. W. Bush (twice removed)
    James Garfield and Richard Nixon (twice removed)
    William Taft and Richard Nixon (twice removed)
    William Taft and Gerald Ford (twice removed)
    James Garfield and Herbert Hoover (three times removed)
    James Garfield and Gerald Ford (three times removed)
    Grover Cleveland and George W. Bush (three times removed)
    Theodore Roosevelt and George H. W. Bush (three times removed)
    Harry Truman and Barack Obama (three times removed)
    Abraham Lincoln and Gerald Ford (four times removed)
    Abraham Lincoln and George H. W. Bush (four times removed)
    Theodore Roosevelt and George W. Bush (four times removed)
    Abraham Lincoln and George W. Bush (five times removed)
    [edit] Eighth cousins
    Grover Cleveland and Franklin D. Roosevelt (half-cousins)
    Rutherford B. Hayes and William Taft (once removed)
    Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover (once removed)
    Calvin Coolidge and Richard Nixon (once removed)
    Calvin Coolidge and Gerald Ford (once removed)
    Herbert Hoover and Gerald Ford (once removed)
    Franklin Roosevelt and Richard Nixon (once removed)
    William Taft and Warren Harding (twice removed)
    Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford (twice removed)
    Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama (twice removed)
    Rutherford B. Hayes and Richard Nixon (three times removed)
    [edit] Ninth cousins
    Warren Harding and Richard Nixon
    Warren Harding and Jimmy Carter
    Benjamin Harrison and Calvin Coolidge (once removed)
    Warren Harding and Gerald Ford (once removed)
    Richard Nixon and George H. W. Bush (once removed)
    Richard Nixon and George W. Bush (twice removed)
    [edit] Tenth cousins
    Herbert Hoover and George H. W. Bush
    Herbert Hoover and George W. Bush (once removed)
    Gerald Ford and Barack Obama (once removed)
    George H.W. Bush and Barack Obama (once removed)
    George W. Bush and Barack Obama (twice removed)

  291. 291 1george1

    No wonder they had Kennedy and McKinley shot ….
    They do not appear to be related to any royalty, nor Presidents?

  292. 292 portia1776

    Question: If the “masters of the universe” in Washington cannot be bothered to pay their own taxes why should they be able to spend our hard-earned tax dollars?

    “41 Obama White House aides owe the IRS $831,000 in back taxes — and they’re not alone

    Over the years a lot of suspicion has built up across the country about Washington and its population of opportunistic transients coming to see themselves as a special kind of person, somehow above average working Americans who don’t labor down in that monument-strewn former swamp.

    Well, finally, an end to all those undocumented doubts. Thanks to some diligent digging by the Washington Post, those suspicions can at last be put to rest.

    They’re correct. Accurate. Dead-on. Laser-guided. On target. Bingo-bango. As clear as it’s always seemed to those Americans who don’t feel special entitlements and do meet their government obligations.

    We now know that federal employees across the nation owe fully $1 billion in back taxes to the Internal Revenue Service.

    Now, back taxes have been a problem for the Obama-Biden administration. You may recall early on that Tom Daschle was the president’s top pick to run the Health and Human Services Department. But it turned out the former Democratic senator, who was un-elected from South Dakota in 2004, owed something like $120,000 to the IRS for things from his subsequent benefactor that he just forgot to pay taxes on. You know how that is. $120G’s here or there. So he dropped out.

    And then we learned this guy Timothy Geithner owed something like $42,000 in back taxes and penalties to the IRS, which is one of the agencies that he’d be in charge of as secretary of the Treasury. The fine fellow who’s supposed to know about handling everyone else’s money. In the end this was excused by Washington’s bipartisan CYA culture as one of those inadvertent accidental oversights that somehow never seem to happen on the side of paying too much taxes.

    And under Geithner’s expert guidance the U.S. economy has been, well, wow! Just look at it.

    Then, we come to the Department of Homeland Security, which is run by Janet Napolitano, the former governor of Arizona who preferred to call terrorist acts ‘man-caused disasters.’… Within that department, there reside 4,856 people who owe the tax agency a whopping total of $37,012,174.

    And they’re checking our pockets for metal and coins?

    — Andrew Malcolm (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/09/congress-taxes-irs.html )”

    Here’s Daniel Mitchell’s take:

    “I sympathize with almost all taxpayers, but it’s difficult to feel sorry for government workers who get in trouble with the IRS. Compensation packages for federal bureaucrats are twice as lucrative as those for workers in the productive sector of the economy and their pensions are similarly extravagant. Yet they often can’t be bothered to fully pay their taxes, owing billions of dollars to the IRS according to a Washington Post report.

    Among the biggest scofflaws are the folks at the Postal Service, who have accumulated more than $283 million of unpaid taxes. Retired bureaucrats, meanwhile, have amassed nearly $455 million of back taxes (http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/overpaid-and-undertaxed/ ).”

    638 of the 18,000 congressional staffers in Washington collectively owe about $9.3 million.

  293. 293 portia1776

    George,

    I write this out of respect for you, even though I know that you may take offense.

    While fascinating to think that Barack Obama and Dick Cheney share some distant ancestor, and other presidents may have had interesting familial relations, too, it is not fruitful to think in terms of blood.

    You do a bit more than that when alleging darkly: “No wonder they had Kennedy and McKinley shot …. They do not appear to be related to any royalty, nor Presidents?”

    Who is “they”? What difference does McKinley and Kennedy blood lines make? I see the question mark, but why even propose such a thing?

    Aside from the method of execution and the somewhat kindred leftist political ideologies of their murderers (anarchism and Marxism, respectively) what connection did McKinley and Kennedy share?

  294. 294 portia1776

    Update on the car that “hope” and “change” built: the Chevy Volt!

    “President Barak Obama has now got his dream car, the hybrid car Chevy Volt, produced only after intervention from government and labour union- owned Government Motors.

    In one way it reminds us of the German predecessor: the Volkswagen. A car not produced according to market demand, but for dubious ideological targets. However, the new ‘Voltswagen’, on sale for $41,000, costs, when all subsidies are accounted for, about $81,000.”

    Our tax dollars at work!

    But what about those who defend Volt because its supposedly “green”?

    “People who are trying to justify such immense subsidies argue that this is necessary to get the electric car industry up and running, because they are in their infancy. The truth is that electric cars of some sort have been around for a century and the market still did not absorb them. Why supply when there is no demand?

    …Studies confirm that China – which is allegedly ‘beating us’ in the race to a green economy – would produce vastly more greenhouse emissions if it switched to electric vehicles.

    Government intervention stymies market forces (http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/The-Adam-Smith-Institute-Blog/2010/0827/President-Obama-s-dream-car-Government-intervention-on-four-wheels ).”

    The author misses an important point: government subsidies of the “green” industry is actually stifling innovation by insulating corporatist companies (“green” welfare queens) from the healthy competitive pressures of the free-market, which , if left unfettered, would improve quality and reduce costs of wind, solar, and assorted technologies, as well as spur the development of new technologies.

  295. 295 portia1776

    Something appropriate for the dark side:

    President Obama’s “self-sacrificial theme was consummated in an utterly creepy 2009 propaganda video starring Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore, who, staring stone-faced at the camera promise in a monotone drone ‘I pledge to be a servant to our president and all mankind because together we can, together we are, and together we will be the change that we seek.’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kAw4OTlA0&feature=player_embedded

    Read more: There’s Nothing Good About the ‘Common Good’ – Investing – Economy – SmartMoney.com http://www.smartmoney.com/investing/economy/theres-nothing-good-about-the-common-good/#ixzz10maPHuqY

  296. 296 portia1776

    Something else for the dark side:

    Implicitly this quote is revealing as to what President Obama’s view of the proper role of government is. When reading it consider the unmaned “we” (government) and what happens if individuals refuse to be “enlisted” or “sent” or “serve” and prefer private sector jobs and service opportunities. What if someone does want to “craft their own service agenda”?

    For quote context:

    “[As] president I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals, like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their effort connected to a common purpose.

    People of all ages, stations and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem – they are the answer. So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We’ll call on Americans to join an energy corps, to conduct renewable energy and environmental clean-up projects in their neighborhoods all across the country.

    We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families. And we’re going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set.

    We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. We need to use technology to connect people to service. We’ll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where American can browse opportunities to volunteer. You’ll be able to search by category, time commitment and skill sets. You’ll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities.

    This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda and make their own change from the bottom up.”

  297. 297 1george1

    PORTIA – I was teasing about the lack of Royal Blood and the cause
    McKinley + Kennedy were shot.

    I have no doubt Ted Roosevelt used McKinley to get to President/VP.
    Then arranging for him to be knocked off, to become President seems
    consistent with his Warrior / Big Hunter persona = killer instinct.

    I suspect the same D.C. forces who wanted Lincoln out of the way, so
    they could plunder and control the South, created the assassination.

    Kennedy was an Irish (niggers of europe) Catholic (not WASP/MASON)
    President, 100 years after the Civil War, where 23 of 36 senate/congress
    committees were controlled by slave state southerners.

    States west of the mississippi and the south had reasons for wanting to
    revenge or wrest control from eastern states who dominated the Civil War.

    The Majority of key Military were from the south or west in/after WW II.

  298. 298 1george1

    Portia,
    I tend to dislike Hollyweird as much as I dislike the Drug Cartel running
    the “District of COLUMBIA.”

    Pray tell, what do you think of the movies WALL STREET 1 + 2, and the
    people involved in same, both on screen, and behind the tormentors?

    What happened on Wall Street, NYC, Markets especially during the Bush-
    Cheney years, and including limited Obama(d) seems to follow theme from
    WS1?

    WS2appears to be a T.R.A.P. for certain green industries.

    Demi’s husband Bruce starred in DIE HARDS.
    Plot of # 1 = BLOW UP TOWER
    Plot of # 2 = BLOW UP AIRPLANES
    Possible clandestine for PLOT of = 9/11 WTC + PENTAGON

    Plot of # 3 = C.I.A./D.O.D. uberprogramer sabatouer/thief
    Part of Heath Ledger JOKER = Anarchist
    Possible clandestine for PLOT of = PROGRAM TRADING WEALTH TRANSER
    of all USA assets combined with ENERGY MONOPOLIES.

    Where were the 9/11 Aircover over NYC + D.C.?

    Where was the DEFENSE DEPARTMENT / INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY
    related to OFF SHORING USA Industies – Energy Cash Flow – Hostile take
    over of USA Financial Institutions?

    PORTIA – You are unlikely to agree with my questions.

    So far, Chris had trouble following my conspiracy theory and
    JEZE believe structure appears not to be willing to accept as possible.

    Yet 80 % of Americans believe the government allowed or planned 9/11!

    Yet 80 % of Americans believe neither Democrats nor Republicans.

    10 % unemployed / 10 % underemployed – mostly refers to Middle class.
    About 50 % of Americans pay no taxes, which strongly suggests a core
    permanent UNDERCLASS.
    5 % of USA owns over 80 % of wealth.
    How many homes, cars, yachts, etc do people need?

    I do not favor 100 % economic equality, because with in months, a percent
    would regain much from the others.

    Government should be the unbiased arbiter.
    But show me anyone, without bias?

    Bashing Obama or Bush wannabees / supporters can be fun, but somethings
    never change in the sewer muck of politics and participants.

    – Only one person in Harkins government / Town Council has manifested
    physical symptoms of shame and empathy, from what I have seen.
    And that person is not on anyone’s radar.

  299. 299 1george1

    YAHOO – UNDER WHY AM I NOT SURPRIZED?

    Report: Significant cheating by FBI agents on exam
    By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer Mark Sherman,
    Associated Press Writer – Mon Sep 27, 4:28 pm ET

    WASHINGTON – A Justice Department investigation has found that FBI agents, including several supervisors, cheated on an important test covering the bureau’s policies for conducting surveillance on Americans.

    Justice Department Inspector General Glenn Fine said Monday that his limited review of allegations that agents improperly took the open-book test together or had access to an answer sheet has turned up “significant abuses and cheating.”

    Fine called on the bureau to discipline the agents, throw out the results and come up with a new test to see if FBI agents understand new rules allowing them to conduct surveillance and open files on Americans without evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

    The troubling review of the exam on surveillance rules follows Fine’s report last week on the FBI’s scrutiny of domestic activist groups. That investigation found that the FBI gave inaccurate information to Congress and the public when it claimed a possible terrorism link to justify monitoring an anti-war rally in Pittsburgh in 2002. That IG report also criticized the factual basis for opening or continuing FBI domestic terrorism investigations of some other nonviolent left-leaning groups.

    In the inquiry into the exam, the inspector general looked only at four FBI field offices and found enough troubling information to warrant a comprehensive review by the FBI.

    In one FBI field office, four agents exploited a computer software flaw “to reveal the answers to the questions as they were taking the exam,” Fine said.

    Other test-takers used or circulated materials that essentially provided the test answers, he said.

    Fine said that almost all of those who cheated “falsely certified” that they did the work themselves, without the help of others.

    – MORE

    Maybe the FBI should change their name to F.I.B.

    Other suggestions?
    USPO = SOUP
    USPS = UP SS
    CIA + OSS = CIAO SS
    DOD = ODD
    ATF + E = FATE
    DEA = DEAth
    ARMY = ARM Y
    NAVY = VAN Y

  300. 300 1george1

    TIMETABLE starting to show focus?

    Cottage demolition under way at Long Beach West
    Brittany Lyte, Staff Writer
    Published: 11:16 p.m., Monday, September 27, 2010

    STRATFORD — The remaining abandoned cottages at Long Beach West are scheduled for demolition at the rate of about one per day beginning next week as part of a project to restore the 35-acre barrier beach to its natural state.

    Removal of the 37 dilapidated homes is supported by nearly $1 million in funding from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. The cottages are what remains of a summer community ousted due to accessibility and liability issues after a 1996 fire burned the causeway bridge linking the peninsula to the mainland.

    A groundbreaking ceremony gathered federal, state and local officials Monday morning to celebrate the environmental preservation, job creation and increased recreation opportunities expected to sprout from the beach cleanup, a project U.S. Rep. Rosa DeLauro said is nearly two years in the making.

    ——–
    LBW – Cottages being removed – Pleasue beach Bridge fire + cottage fires
    + Remington fires? All coincidence or ‘political parties” “lightning?”
    DOT tore up Main Street – downtown – about to reroute by Airport.
    DOT actively working I – 95, Moses Wheeler Bridge + Ramps.
    FAA Comments about Airport Hearing Sept 22 – DUE OCT 15
    EPA Comments about 4 Raymark dumpsite – DUE OCT 16
    ARMY SAEP decision – DUE OCT 18
    SHAKESPEARE resolution on hiring firm DUE OCT 11 or NOV 8

    ELECTION – NOV 2

    I project major stock market crash around Oct 4 or later in month.

    It will create a political urgency to create good jobs and new economy.

  301. 301 jezebel282

    From George:

    form a more perfect Union,
    establish Justice,
    insure domestic Tranquility,
    provide for the common defence,
    promote the general Welfare,
    and secure the Blessings of Liberty
    to ourselves and our Posterity,
    do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.

    The following are the Amendments to the Constitution.
    The first ten Amendments collectively are commonly known as
    the Bill of Rights. History

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
    or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
    or abridging the freedom of speech,
    or of the press;
    or the right of the people peaceably to assemble,
    and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
    papers, and effects

    nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property,
    without due process of law;
    nor shall private property be taken (for public use,)
    without just compensation.

    In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy
    shall exceed twenty dollars,

    Excessive bail shall not be required,
    nor excessive fines imposed,
    nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights,
    shall not be construed to
    deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,
    nor prohibited by it to the States,
    are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

    1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude,
    except as a punishment for crime
    whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
    shall exist within the United States,
    or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

    2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article
    by appropriate legislation.

    No State shall make or enforce any law which shall
    abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens
    of the United States;
    nor shall any State deprive any person of
    life, liberty, or property,
    without due process of law;
    nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction
    the equal protection of the laws. (NOT just for Democrats + Republican’ts)

    But neither the United States nor any State shall assume
    or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection
    or rebellion against the United States,
    or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave;
    but all such debts, obligations and claims
    shall be held illegal and void.

    BODY Section 8
    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts
    and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
    general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises
    shall be ” uniform ”
    throughout the United States;

    To borrow money
    To regulate Commerce
    To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,
    and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies
    To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof,
    To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities
    and current Coin of the United States;
    To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts
    To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
    To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas,
    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules
    To raise and support Armies,
    To provide and maintain a Navy;
    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of land and naval Forces
    (U.S. CODE + UNIFORM CODE of MILITARY JUSTICE)
    To provide for calling forth the Militia
    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia,
    To exercise exclusive Legislation
    To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying
    into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested
    by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in
    any Department or Officer thereof.
    Section 9 – Limits on Congress

    Preamble
    Article I – The Legislative Branch
    Article II – The Executive Branch
    Article III – The Judicial Branch
    Article IV – The States
    Article V – Amendment
    Article VI – Debts, Supremacy, Oaths
    Article VII – Ratification
    The Amendments

  302. 302 1george1

    By breaking the paragraphs and sentences down into separate
    thoughts and out of context, I believe is a better way of reading
    the true purview of the Constitution.
    Or at least a better potential use of the Constitution.

  303. 303 portia1776

    George,

    “By breaking the paragraphs and sentences down into separate thoughts and out of context, I believe is a better way of reading the true purview of the Constitution.” – Actually, not so much.

    For instance, you cut and pasted this quote: “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts.”

    Someone reading that would be under the impression that it is constitutional for the national government to use 6 billion (with a B) of our tax payer dollars annually plus an additional 4 billion (with a B) of our tax dollars to fund the National Science Foundation (though perhaps not so many bureaucrats “research” e.g., “A senior official spent two years ‘repeatedly and excessively’ surfing porn sites at the office and 20 percent of his work hours having ‘sexually explicit chats’ with women online. His activities amounted to a potential loss of more than $58,000 for the NSF—and more than $40,300 of his own money. His exploits ‘adversely affected the workplace, making it offensive and hostile,’ the [NSF Inspector General] report says
    see: http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=porn-among-national-science-foundat-2009-01-29.”)

    Mercifully, the Constitution says no such thing. The quote in context is about issuing copy rights to private sector entrepreneurs, scientists, and investors intellectual property rights: “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.”

    I’ve previously posted on enumerated powers here: https://stratfordcharter.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/finreg/#comment-13470

  304. 304 portia1776

    Watch Star Wars to learn great classical liberal and laissez-faire values:

    “The ambitious Star Wars films tell of the rise, fall into evil & ultimate redemption of Anakin Skywalker through his son Luke. Set against the decline of the Old Republic into an evil Galactic Empire and the rebellion against that Empire, this tale has profound relevance for our time. Here’s the top reasons why the Star Wars saga, in addition to being an epic action-packed adventure is a great pro-liberty tale:

    * The films claim to be pro-liberty! From the scrolling-off-into-the-distance intro text: ‘…restore freedom to the galaxy’ (Episode IV), ‘a group of freedom fighters led by Luke Skywalker…’ (Episode V), ‘the small band of rebels struggling to restore freedom to the galaxy’ (Episode VI).

    * The theme of the Republic declining into an evil empire is an ancient libertarian theme going back to Cato’s resistance to the onset of empire in Rome. The portrayal of the bureaucratic/military empire vs. the ‘ragtag’ people’s resistance is right on target.

    * ‘So this is how liberty dies – to thunderous applause.’ (Padme)

    * ‘War does not make one great.’ (Yoda)

    * ‘A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense. Never for attack.’ (Yoda) How many other movies can you think of that have such a clear presentation of the libertarian doctrine on the use of force?

    * In the grand old Anglo-American tradition of continuing to provide goods even when the government stupidly gets in the way, we have the heroic smuggler Han Solo who specializes in outfoxing the Empire to do business. And don’t forget that Lando Calrissian is originally running a black market mining operation when he is introduced.

    * No conscription for these freedom fighters! When the valuable pilot Han Solo plans to leave the Rebellion his decision is respected: ‘He’s got to follow his own path, no one can choose it for him.’ (Leia)

    * Empire, accurately, is portrayed as a mass murderer in the destruction of the peaceful planet of Alderan and everyone on it. As a symbol to represent this past century of the killer State, I propose the dreaded Death Star.

    That two generations have grown up with these films teaching them to hate the ‘Empire’ and it’s plans to ‘bring order to the galaxy’ bodes well for our future [for this and other film recommendations see: http://mises.org/content/film.asp%5D.”

    But is Star Wars a powerful enough inoculation against “Progressive”-socialist-communist united front unity that will be on display this weekend in Washington?:

    “One Nation Working Together will chart a bold, pragmatic path toward a more unified, sustainable, prosperous future by building support for these core principles and policy ideals.”

    No, “pragmatism” does not mean always doing that which is unprincipled and ineffective and socialistic. Pragmatism, rightly understood, would mean doing that which is pragmatic, i.e., that which is proven in practice. And what works in practice is individualism not this collectivist propaganda that Howard Dean and the Communist Party USA and President Obama’s Organizing for America have compromised to support.

    We must oppose this march for xenophobia, jingoism, and nationalist fervor that characterizes the paranoid, introverted, illiberal, zero-sum anti-free trade mindset of the powerful forces behind the inappropriately named “One Nation” rally.

    May the force (reason) be with us in the fight for freedom, for free-market capitalism, classical liberalism, and individual liberty, which foster global cooperation and peace, innovation, cosmopolitanism, and life-saving prosperity for millions of people around the globe.

  305. 305 1george1

    PORTIA: George, “By breaking the paragraphs and sentences down
    into separate thoughts and out of context, I believe is a better way
    of reading the true purview of the Constitution.”
    – Actually, not so much.

    GEORGE: Portia “BETTER” neither means “ONLY” nor “BEST.”
    Just as you could cite contrary positions, I suspect you could find
    and articulate concurring examples, where breaking down the
    articulated context, can improve perspectives from inferrals and
    context of historical mistreatments and dialectical philosophies,
    giving purview to the Constitution.

    PORTIA:
    Star Wars to learn great classical liberal and laissez-faire values:

    Much of the same can be found with the FEDERALIST PAPERS,
    whereas counter intuitive and perverse readings / interpretation
    have been the Historic abuses within the USA.

    Ever notice that Senators Palpatine and Lieberman look so much alike?
    NOT TWINS!
    But have many similar facial and physical characteristics!
    Compare Lieberman back then and now, and the physical and philosophic
    similaritiesseem to draw closer than when Palpatine first appeared?

    Palpatine also sounds like one of the seven hills of Rome?

    The original Star Wars was the best movie I ever saw for instant impact.

    Ironic there were NO BLACK ACTORS, except for the voice of DARTH VADER?
    Later, black actors were placed in the movie by editting.

    What does that suggest about producers, casting, directors, and actors,
    to have not noticed the oversight of excluding people of color?
    What does that say about the audience, including me and Portia?

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    I loved the original Star Trek series.

    Now I wonder why Kirk never got interstellar venerial diseases? 😉

    Each show was a morality play set in the future, reflective of issues
    of the then present, the past, the near future.

    It also introduced futuristic technologies and concepts.

    I loved the show NUMB3RS. It gets too close to too many present
    situations and truths.

    Many of the biggest names in TV / MOVIE / PRINT writing and producing
    appear to be working with government agencies and appear steered.

    Anyone else notice the percentage of Movies / TV shows / books about
    – cops / criminals
    – Criminal Investigation / Forensics
    – Prosecutors
    – Defenders
    – TV Judges
    – special Ops
    – James Bond / Bourne / Jack Ryan
    – Terrorists
    – Spanish immigrants
    – Mafia
    – Gang Bangers
    – FIB – I mean FBI

    Is Johnny Depp the new Errol Flynn – swash buckler pirate movies?

    Remember when TV / MOVIES were about wild west / indians

  306. 306 1george1

    It looks like OBAMA has been reading my blog postings …. 🙂
    My “quote” marks. My & replacing the word “and.”


    By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer Erica Werner,
    Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON
    – President Barack Obama is promoting his administration’s investments
    in clean energy technologies like wind and solar, arguing they produce
    jobs & are essential for the country’s environment & economic security.

    In his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday, a month out from
    crucial midterm elections, the president also accused Republicans of
    wanting to scrap incentives for such projects.

    “That’s what’s at stake in this debate,” the president said.
    “We can go back to the failed “energy policies that profited oil companies”

    but (weakened our country.”

    We can go back to the days when promising “industries got set up overseas.”

    Or we can go after new jobs in growing industries.

    And we can spur innovation & help make our economy more competitive.”

  307. 307 jezebel282

    From George:

    China:
    GHW Bush was Ambassidor to China.
    Prescott Bush Jr. was head of US Chamber of Commerce to China.

    Walmart is China’s single biggest customer and products distributor.
    Walmart HQ is Arkansas.
    Bill Clinton and a Rockefeller were Governors of Arkansas.

    David Rockefeller was the nominal creator of the Trilateral Commission
    about the time his brother Nelson was the unelected VP to unelected
    President Gerald Ford (ex-Warren commissioner)

    China’s economic growth has been exponential since Nixon went to china
    to be a counter weight to Russia.

    Trilateral Commission members include, but not limited to:
    GHW Bush
    Bill Clinton
    W Bush
    George Pratt Schultz
    Kissinger (Nixon’s) & Brzezinski Carter’s
    Many financial and other members of past administrations.

    No – There are no conspiracies! Attack on USA middle class wasn’t planned!

  308. 308 portia1776

    Creeping “Green” authoritarianism brought to you by 10:10, a “Progressive” UK pro-Global Warming group, and, of all companies, Audi.

    Ad 1: “Voluntarily” surrender your freedom, no pressure. But, if you don’t, well, it’s dangerous for your health in a world where the eco-extremists command-and-control the economy and have their finger on the button (think government-run health care): http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2010/10/01/creepy-green-ad/

    The Group’s founder, Franny Armstrong, offered this gem in a Guardian interview: “Clearly we don’t really think they should be blown up, that’s just a joke for the mini-movie, but maybe a little amputating would be a good place to start?”

    But, of course, murder is out of the question. That was “just a joke.” The pro-Global Warming faction really wants to start a lot slower. You know, a little mutilation of people just because they don’t accept the party line, no big deal. In any case, Armstrong says, such action is “necessary” because anyone who doesn’t do what the eco-extremists want is an enemy of the people, “threatening everybody’s existence on this planet.”

    The tragic irony is that the atrocious policies of “Progressives” like Armstrong, Van Jones, and Al Gore, if implemented, would a.) do nothing to avert the real consequences of Climate Change, b.) kill millions of people around the world in famines and as a result of poverty, and c.) make almost everyone poor and less free.

    Ad 2 (also viewable at link above): you have no individual freedom… the collectivist “Green Police” will come after you even in your own home. Fascism is fun, provided it’s “green.”

    George, care to comment on this? I’m also interested in your thoughts on the Star Wars post.

  309. 309 1george1

    Jeze never created a FUN screen, nor fun blog string …
    Well maybe for Mike R and his golf ….
    It is not like nothing humorous or enjoyable happens in Stratford….
    I learned a new word:

    A paraprosdokian is a figure of speech in which the latter part of a sentence or phrase is surprising or unexpected in a way that causes the reader or listener to reframe or reinterpret the first part. It is frequently used for humorous or dramatic effect, sometimes producing an anticlimax…

    Ø I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn’t work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.

    Ø Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

    Ø I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather. Not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car.

    Ø Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.

    Ø The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it’s still on the list.

    Ø Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

    Ø If I agreed with you we’d both be wrong.

    Ø We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.

    Ø War does not determine who is right – only who is left.

    Ø Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

    Ø The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

    Ø Evening news is where they begin with ‘Good evening’, and then proceed to tell you why it isn’t.

    Ø To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is research.

    Ø A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station.

    Ø How is it one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire?

    Ø Some people are like Slinkies … not really good for anything, but you can’t help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs.

    Ø Dolphins are so smart that within a few weeks of captivity, they can train people to stand on the very edge of the pool and throw them fish.

    Ø I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted pay checks.

    Ø A bank is a place that will lend you money, if you can prove that you don’t need it.

    Ø Whenever I fill out an application, in the part that says “If an emergency, notify:” I put “DOCTOR”.

    Ø I didn’t say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.

    Ø I saw a woman wearing a sweat shirt with “Guess” on it…so I said “Implants?”

    Ø Why does someone believe you when you say there are four billion stars, but check when you say the paint is wet?

    Ø Women will never be equal to men until they can walk down the street with a bald head and a beer gut, and still think they are sexy.

    Ø Why do Americans choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America ?

    Ø Behind every successful man is his woman. Behind the fall of a successful man is usually another woman.

    Ø A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.

    Ø You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.

    Ø The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!

    Ø Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back.

    Ø A diplomat is someone who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you will look forward to the trip.

    Ø Hospitality: making your guests feel like they’re at home, even if you wish they were.

    Ø Money can’t buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.

    Ø I discovered I scream the same way whether I’m about to be devoured by a great white shark or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot.

    Ø Some cause happiness wherever they go. Others whenever they go.

    Ø There’s a fine line between cuddling and holding someone down so they can’t get away.

    Ø I used to be indecisive. Now I’m not sure.

    Ø I always take life with a grain of salt, plus a slice of lemon, and a shot of tequila.

    Ø When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water.

    Ø You’re never too old to learn something stupid.

    Ø To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target.

    Ø Nostalgia isn’t what it used to be.

    Ø Some people hear voices. Some see invisible people. Others have no imagination whatsoever.

    Ø A bus is a vehicle that runs twice as fast when you are after it as when you are in it.

    Ø If you are supposed to learn from your mistakes, why do some people have more than one child?

    Ø Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

    Ø The trouble with our times is that the future is not what it used to be…

  310. 310 1george1

    more:
    “If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate.” — Henry J. Tillman[1]
    “I belong to no organized party. I am a Democrat.” — Will Rogers[2][3]
    “She got her good looks from her father; he’s a plastic surgeon.” — Groucho Marx
    “I’ve had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn’t it.” — Groucho Marx
    “One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas I’ll never know.” — Groucho Marx
    “Outside of a dog, a book is man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read.” — Groucho Marx
    “It looked so good out this morning, I thought I’d leave it out.” — Paul Benjamin King
    “I haven’t slept for ten days. Because that would be too long.” — Mitch Hedberg
    “You know, I’m sick of following my dreams, man. I’m just going to ask where they’re going and hook up with ’em later.” – Mitch Hedberg
    “There’s a bunch of different crunches that affect the abs… my favorite is Nestle.” – Shmuel Breban
    “I like going to the park and watching the children run and jump around, because you see, they don’t know I’m using blanks.” – Emo Philips
    “Actually, my cd was released in 1985, in return for two German missionaries and a Dutch urologist.” – Emo Philips
    “I discovered my wife in bed with another man, and I was crushed. So I said, ‘Get off me, you two!'” – Emo Philips
    “Mark my words. No, Mark, I really need my words.” — Stephen Colbert
    “If all the girls at Vassar were laid end to end, I wouldn’t be surprised.” — Dorothy Parker
    “Take my wife – please.” — Henny Youngman
    “It’s too bad that whole families have to torn apart by something as simple as wild dogs.” — Jack Handey
    “On the other hand, we have different fingers.” — Jack Handey
    “The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face.” — Jack Handey
    “Keep reaching for the stars, because those are the only people who can help you” – Maria Bamford


    An illustrative example of a garden path sentence:

    The horse raced past the barn fell.

    Occasionally, a second phrase causes the reinterpretation of meaning:

    Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
    Other examples of garden path sentences are:

    The following is a partial list of linguistic example sentences illustrating various linguistic phenomena.

    This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness. You can help by expanding it with reliably sourced entries.

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  311. 311 1george1

    # 1 post on this was about Jesse Ventura “conspiracy theory.”
    Mid OCT he is back.

    Besides being in WWE
    JESSE was former NAVY SEAL
    JESSE and ARNOLD were in PREDATOR and became STATE GOVERNATORS

  312. 312 1george1

    Wikipedia:
    The Great Vowel Shift was a major change in the pronunciation
    of the English language that took place in the south of England
    between 1450 and 1750.
    The Great Vowel Shift was first studied by Otto Jespersen (1860–1943),
    a Danish linguist and Anglicist, who coined the term.

    EFFECT: The values of the long vowels form the main difference
    between the pronunciation of Middle English and Modern English,
    and the Great Vowel Shift is one of the historical events marking
    the separation of Middle and Modern English.
    Originally, these vowels had “continental” values much like those
    remaining in Italian and liturgical Latin.
    However, during the Great Vowel Shift, the two highest long vowels
    became diphthongs, and the other five underwent an increase in
    tongue height with one of them coming to the front.

    HISTORY: The surprising speed and the exact cause of the shift are
    continuing mysteries in linguistics and cultural history, but some
    theories attach the cause to the mass migration to the southeast
    part of England after the Black Death, where the difference in
    accents led to certain groups modifying their speech to allow for
    a standard pronunciation of vowel sounds.
    The different dialects and the rise of a standardised middle class in
    London led to changes in pronunciation, which continued to spread
    out from that city.

    The sudden social mobility after the Black Death may have caused
    the shift, with people from lower levels in society moving to higher
    levels (the pandemic also having hit the aristocracy).


    Another explanation highlights the language of the ruling class:
    the medieval aristocracy had spoken French
    but by the early fifteenth century they were using English.

    -George below
    COLUMBUS/SPANISH Diaspora 1492 > Medici / machiavelli
    Gutenberg Printing Press = 1439 – invented in China 150 AD
    Martin Luthor 1517 – 95 thesis
    Shakespeares 1564 – 1616
    -George above

    This may have caused a change to the “prestige accent” of English,
    either by making pronunciation more French in style
    or by changing it in some other way, perhaps by hypercorrection
    to something thought to be “more English”
    (England being at war with France for much of this period).
    Another influence may have been the great political and social
    upheavals of the fifteenth century, which were largely
    contemporaneous with the Great Vowel Shift.

    Because English spelling was becoming standardised in the 15th and
    16th centuries, the Great Vowel Shift is responsible for many of the
    peculiarities of English spelling.
    Spellings that made sense according to Middle English pronunciation
    were retained in Modern English because of the adoption and use of
    the printing press, which was introduced to England in the 1470s by
    William Caxton and later Richard Pynson.

    GRIMM’S LAW = 1822 Jacob Grimm

    A formula describing the regular changes undergone by Indo-European
    stop consonants represented in Germanic, essentially stating that
    Indo-European p, t, and k became Germanic f, th, and h;
    Indo-European b, d, and g became Germanic p, t, and k;
    and Indo-European bh, dh, and gh became Germanic b, d, and g.

    CYRILLIC ALPHABET – 8TH / 9TH CENTURY
    The Cyrillic alphabet is derived from the Greek uncial script,
    augmented by ligatures and consonants from the older Glagolitic
    alphabet for sounds not found in Greek.

    The Cyrillic alphabet is an alphabetic writing system used in various
    languages, past and present, of Eastern Europe and Asia, especially
    those of Slavic origin as well as non-Slavic languages influenced by Russian.

    With the accession of Bulgaria to the European Union on 1 January 2007,
    Cyrillic became the third official alphabet of the European Union, following
    the Latin and Greek alphabets. (WHY NOT HEBREW + ARABIC?)


    The Japanese has two kinds of alphabet, Hiragana and Katakana.
    Hiragana is used when we have no Japanese characters (Kanji)
    for the words or we don’t remember the right Kanji.
    Katakana is used mainly for foreign names.

    The Japanese alphabet consists of 99 sounds formed with 5 vowels
    (a, e, i, o, and u) and
    14 consonants (k, s, t, h, m, y, r, w, g, z, d, b, p, and n),
    as is shown in the Hiragana chart.


    Chinese characters are also known as sinographs, and the Chinese writing ……
    Vietnamese is currently exclusively written in the Vietnamese alphabet.

    Cuneiform script is the earliest known writing system in the world.
    Cuneiform writing emerged in the Sumerian civilization of southern
    Iraq around the 34th century BCE
    during the middle Uruk period, beginning as a pictographic system
    of writing. Cuneiform was the most widespread and historically
    significant writing system in the Ancient Near East.

    The development of cuneiform writing was an evolution of an earlier Mesopotamian accounting system that had been used for five thousand
    years before.

    Egyptian hieroglyphs (pronounced /ˈhaɪ(ə)rəɡlɪf/) was a formal writing
    system used by the ancient Egyptians that contained a combination
    of logographic and alphabetic elements.
    Egyptians used cursive hieroglyphs for religious literature on papyrus
    and wood.
    Less formal variations of the script, called hieratic and demotic,
    are technically not hieroglyphs.

    =====
    The Masons and certain others relate back to SOLOMON’S TEMPLE and
    the DIVINE RIGHT of KINGS depends on POWER claimed to originate from
    PHAROAH + CAESAR + LEVI + GREEKS.

    There are Sumerian / Babyloninan reasons for invading IRAQ beyond OIL.

    Revisionist history to usurp / destroy original power claims.

    Rome claimed to have begining relationships with a she wolf and Troy with
    Remus spelling Sumer backwards.
    Romulus is anagram of SOUL RUM.
    Vati Canus is DOG POET, referring to GREEK cynic Diogenes
    or Deus Genes = meaning God’s People or God’s Tribe.

    The quilll is mightier than the S word.

    Will PORTIA try to unravel the inigma inside the conumdrum?

  313. 313 1george1

    The MISSING LINKS between the above alphabets were INDIA + HINDU.

    Alexander the Great conquest ended in India, 356-323 BC.

    Muhammad 571-632 > Moslems control most equator land from Asia to
    North africa and conquored parts of the Balklans and Spain.

    Ghengis Khan (Tamujin) 1162-1227 conquered from Mongolia, China,
    Korea, Caucasus, Central Asia, Eastern Europe, and middle East

    There are strong probabilities that the printing press and other china
    based trades via land caravans had causal relationships for sponsoring
    Columbus to find a water route to china / far east?

  314. 314 1george1

    Hypotheticals? Are these impossible scenarios?

    > Could Dodd be hired for tens of Millions as a consultant for development
    Bridgeport + Stratford + Valley for doing all those things he could
    have done since 1980s?

    > If Diane Feinstein’s husband made $ 10s millions on Dianon
    due to stock drop from congress act and then reversing,

    -> Could that be ways senators and congress make money by insider
    trading in other States or Districts, swapping investment info?
    – Plausible deniability?
    – Who could track connections, except by financials.

    > Will Weicker feed on development trough, if McMahon wins?
    Weicker is on Board of WWE.
    Weicker went to same Episcopalian Church as GHW Bush.
    Weicker made his name on Watergate issue

    > Nixon opened China
    – Nixon appointed GHW Bush to Ambassador UN + CHINA + CIA head
    – Ford + Nelson Rockefeller U N E L E C T E D President / VP
    – Nelson Rockefeller brother David Rockefeller titular creator TRILATERAL
    COMMISSION! That and Council of Foreign Affairs supply many key post
    in White Houses of Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Bama
    – China distribution out let = Walmart HQ Arkansas
    – Former Arkansas a Rockefeller + Clinton
    > Rockefellers, George Pratt Schultz, Bush, Cheney all in OIL / GAS / COAL

    Walmart + Big Oil + Buffet (best friend own Level 3 = owns majority of US cable
    Transmissions, which can be tapped = insider trading) Bloomberg (key spot for
    financial news potential insider trading) Bill Gates firm has platform with many
    holes to access inside information and programmer who could hack info from
    Buffet’s buddy …. who owns Level 3 …

    WHO is best positioned to do INSIDER TRADING?
    – NSC + CIA + DOD + ATT + CABLE + LEVEL 3 + BLOOMBERG TYPE Financials
    + FED + BIG BANKS + WALL STREET FIRMS + INSTITUTIONS + PENSION FUNDS
    + FLOOR TRADERS + INSURANCE COMPANIES + Countries Intelligence people
    + countries highest elected and appointed officials ..

    > Who controlled all USA DRUG TRAFFIC?

    > Who benefitted from all the Wars since JFK, MLK, RFK?

    > Who benefitted from all the Insider Trading?

    > Price of OIL always seems to be high before elections?
    > Around USA Cops raid strip clubs and bust drug gangs for show?
    > About now another Terrorist attack needed to CRASH MARKET
    and justify “PATRIOT” ACTS?

    If the Casino has odds in their favor and uses marked decks and cameras
    what chance does anyone have?

  315. 315 1george1

    Reap what is sown. Become knowledgably involved:

    Mark Twain: “Loyalty to country, always.
    Loyalty to government: when deserved!”

    Google: “The Invisible Gorilla,”
    “conceptional blindness,”
    “inattentional blindness.”
    (“Situations hide in plain sight.” “We focus priorities elsewhere.”)

    I believe:
    Local, state, federal governments officials:
    wittingly-unwitting duplicitous, deluded and dictatorial.

    Locally: Web Transparency: opaque documentation obfustication?
    Oxymoronic?

    Arbitrary costly Freedom of Information: Calculated disingenuous.

    Budget boondoggle line items and finances: fiction?

    Were/are bipartisan bickering, cover stories, and yellow dog journalism
    fronts for multilateral bipartisan banditry, steering, patronage-graft,
    barratry, and champerty?

    Federal/State impact Stratford:

    E.P.A/D.E.P.: “Raymark and 24 dumpsites;”

    FAA: “Airport;”

    D.O.T.: “Moses Wheel Bridge-ramps,
    State/Federal Roads (Main Street) and Rail Road;”

    ARMY: “AVCO S.A.E.P.;”

    LEGISLATORS:
    “Budget Grants-Funds;”
    “Unfunded Town-Education Mandates;”
    “contract awards;”

    —->

    Present USA economic inequities pale to post WW II, worldwide:
    destroyed world infrastructures; homelessness; and unemployment.

    Solution?
    Marshall Plan helped rebuild allies, enemies, and USA government,
    and publics’ Life Quality including comprehensive compensation
    and benefits!
    Starting point is “good government.”

    “Good Debt=Seed money:”
    “money for converting ideas into viable businesses.”

    Neo-Capitalism successes:
    Warsaw nations; Russia; China; India; Brazil and
    “other than” “USA’s Main Street.”

    “Voodoo economics,” “fuzzy math,”
    “Tax and spend,” or “Tax and steal?”

    Deregulation? Calculated political-business-military insider looting?

    Strategic Tactics destroying American
    “Cold War infrastructure, expanding inequities”
    is counter intuitive likely treason (1987 Iran contra);
    criminal insider trading.

    Oct 1987 influential vampire movie “Wall Street,” before:
    Stock Market crash; Communism fall!
    2010 Wall Street movie, before:
    Markets Capitalistic-kleptocracy;
    Non-Representational Democratic Republic?

    “We the PEOPLE” allowed USA elite clerisy in
    Military, Bureaucracy, Politics, and Business who
    “own responsibility,” for:

    “Oil/Gas/Coal/Energy “teapot dome” manipulated costs;”

    “Enron; MCI-Worldcom;”

    “9/11 allowed or planned;” “protracted Wars;”

    “Katrina-F.E.M.A.;”

    “D.O.D.-Trilateral-C.F.R. off-shoring industries;”

    “PenZions Ponzied;”

    “Retirement portfolios stolen;”

    “Gordon Gekko vampire-greed;”

    “Neutron Jack unemployment;”

    “bankruptcies;”

    “foreclosures;”

    “Fanny-Freddy-Countryside Mortgage
    under-securitized destabilization/destruction;”

    “Regulatory malfeasance;”

    “Depressed Real Estate Values;”

    “Brownfield stasis;”

    “Budget Revenues: Legalized ex-Mafia Cash Cows;”

    “Usury credit card rates-exemptions from protections;”

    “Beggaring business/residents,”

    “Capitalism-Caste Systemization;”

    “Constitution intellectualized prostitution;”

    “Treasoned Military Intelligence;”

    “Enslaved Freemen;”

    “Contemptible Courts;”

    “Dishonorable Judges=Bar Association;”

    “Omerta-ed Blue Walls;”

    “Magna Carta-ed Constitution mis-prison political parties into gangs;”

    “plutocratizedTeLEVIzionRAdioMovie-subliminal-ization;”

    “H.A.A.R.P.;”

    Where were Robber Barons’
    Defense Department-Intelligence Community?

    Lord Acton:
    “Everything secret degenerates, even administration of justice.”

    “Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely.”

    Sun Tsu: “All war is deception.”

    “Win 100 victories in 100 battles aren’t skills’ acme.
    Subdue enemies without fighting is skills’ acme.”

    Lenin: “Lies told often enough becomes truths.”

    Marx: “Capitalism contains seeds of its own destruction.”

    Warriors, lawyers, politicians, word-smiths and business people
    are perfect prefectures for perverse political power puppeteers’
    perfidy, prose, poetry, punditry: using Ponzi pyramids
    profit prophets’ privateers’ piracy.

    Sick select secret societies (religious/secular orders/militaries)
    surrogates secrete salacious sadistic schadenfreude and societal
    subornation (socio-economic-political) seditious sabotage.
    Live by the “S”word? ….

    Who guards the guardians?

    When it’s the betrayers turn to be betrayed,
    where shall betrayers turn?

    Eisenhower:
    Military Industrial (political) Complex: “Unwarranted Influence;”
    Scientific Technologic Elite: control Public Opinion!

    Omar Bradley: Wrong War! Wrong place! Wrong time! Wrong Enemies!

    Admiral Crowe-Pogo: “We met the enemy. He’s U.S.”

    Donne: “Ask not for whom the bells tolls?”

    MLK: “Let Freedom ring!”

    —–

    George Mulligan:

    The one finger salute is for the enemies (foreign & domestic)
    of our troops and our people!
    May G-D protect and keep america free and americans independent!

  316. 316 1george1

    From an e-mail from a friend:

    A lecturer when explaining stress management to an audience,
    raised a glass of water and asked
    > “How heavy is this glass of water?”

    > Answers called out ranged from 20g to 500g.

    The lecturer replied, “The absolute weight doesn’t matter.
    > It depends on how long you try to hold it.

    > If I hold it for a minute, that’s not a problem.

    > If I hold it for an hour, I’ll have an ache in my right arm.

    > If I hold it for a day, you’ll have to call an ambulance.

    > In each case, it’s the same weight,
    but the longer I hold it, the heavier it becomes.”

    He continued,

    > “And that’s the way it is with stress management.

    If we carry our burdens all the time, sooner or later,
    as the burden becomes increasingly heavy,
    we won’t be able to carry on. ”

    > “As with the glass of water,
    you have to put it down for a while
    and rest before holding it again.

    > When we’re refreshed, we can carry on with the burden.”

    > “So, before you return home tonight,
    put the burden of work down .

    > Don’t carry it home.

    > You can pick it up tomorrow.

    > Whatever burdens you’re carrying now,
    let them down for a moment if you can.”

    > So, my friend, Put down anything that may be a burden
    to you right now.

    > Don’t pick it up again until after you’ve rested a while.

    > Here are some great ways of dealing with the burdens of life:

    * Accept that some days you’re the pigeon,
    and some days you’re the statue.

    * Always keep your words soft and sweet,
    just in case you have to eat them.

    * Drive carefully. It’s not only cars
    that can be recalled by their maker.

    * If you can’t be kind,
    at least have the decency to be vague.

    * If you lend someone $20 and never see that person again,
    it was probably worth it.

    * It may be that your sole purpose in life
    is simply be kind to others.

    * Nobody cares if you can’t dance well.
    Just get up and dance.

    * Since it’s the early worm that gets eaten by the bird,
    sleep late.

    * The second mouse gets the cheese.

    * When everything’s coming your way,
    you’re in the wrong lane.

    * Birthdays are good for you.
    The more you have, the longer you live.

    * You may be only one person in the world,
    but you may also be the world to one person.

    * Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.

    * We could learn a lot from crayons…
    Some are sharp,
    some are pretty
    and some are dull.
    Some have weird names,
    and all are different colors,
    but they all have to live in the same box.

    *A truly happy person is one who can
    enjoy the scenery on a detour.

    Have an awesome day and know that
    someone has thought about you
    today…I did. 🙂

  317. 317 portia1776

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking before a favored special interest, the United Steel Workers:

    “We’re talking about addressing the disparity in our country of income, where wealthy people continue to get wealthier and some other people are falling out of the middle class, while we want to bring many more people into the middle class. But that disparity is not just about wages alone; that disparity is about ownership and equity. It’s all about fairness in our country.”

    Pelosi is right. Life, like the free market, is not “fair.” Some people are intelligent, beautiful, and/or strong, while others are not. Don’t we need to address this disparity, too? Wouldn’t it be great if the national government could advance equality of looks and ability as well as wealth? After all, aren’t we all at an “unfair” disadvantage when a Lebron James or James Madison, a Cornelius Vanderbilt or Norman Bourlag is free to pursue their self-interest and thus demonstrate their excellence? All this competition is “unfair.” Who can compete against these titans of talent? Why can’t “we” come-up with a “pragmatic” solution to ensure, just as in Alice in Wonderland, that everyone’s a winner and gets a prize? That, after all, is best for the “common good.”

    But how would “we” accomplish this? As with everything else, there is a big government solution to this problem of “social injustice”: The Handicapper General.

    Kurt Vonnegut’s story “Harrison Bergeron” describes a future where unlimited government does just that:

    “The year was 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren’t only equal before God and the law, they were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else; nobody was better looking than anybody else; nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.

    Some things about living still weren’t quite right, though. April, for instance, still drove people crazy by not being springtime. And it was in that clammy month that the H-G men took George and Hazel Bergeron’s fourteen-year-old son, Harrison, away.

    It was tragic, all right, but George and Hazel couldn’t think about it very hard. Hazel had a perfectly average intelligence, which meant she couldn’t think about anything except in short bursts. And George, while his intelligence was way above normal, had a little mental handicap radio in his ear — he was required by law to wear it at all times. It was tuned to a government transmitter, and every twenty seconds or so, the transmitter would send out some sharp noise to keep people like George from taking unfair advantage of their brains.”

    Continue reading the short story: http://www.nationalreview.com/nroriginals/print/?q=MDllNmVmNGU1NDVjY2IzODBlMjYzNDljZTMzNzFlZjc=

  318. 318 1george1

    FOR SOME REASON I LIKE and DISLIKE THIS SENTENCE:

    to keep people like George from taking unfair advantage of their brains.”

    Why would I not like the above?
    I try not to take advantage of anyone.
    Never have.

    The Kurt Vonnegut’s story “Harrison Bergeron” describes a future where unlimited government is ORWELLIAN.

    I have a friend constantly knocking Obama and others, but he and others
    completely ignore Bush and the others ….

    It is like they live in a vacuum where there is only one side ….

  319. 319 portia1776

    “Why would I not like the above? I try not to take advantage of anyone. Never have.” — According to the Pelosi preversion of “fairness,” economic success MUST have come at someones expense (I will reserve comment on her personal situation). Vonnegut took this “social justice” concept to its logical extreme. The smart, beautiful, and strong have an “unfair” advantage over others. If society is to be “just” these natural inequalities must be “corrected,” if not as fantastically as with a Handicapper General bureaucracy, then with confiscatory taxation and anti-competitive legislation.

    Look around and see how much this fictional story is, in one form or another, not too far off the mark. Are public schools handicapping children due to their insistence on treating all students as “equally” as possible? Are unions protecting mediocrities at the expense of superior workers and teachers? Do programs like Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), which President Obama has grown to unprecedented levels (raising eligibility to 200% above the poverty income level), atrophy individual initiative and morality by breeding dependency? When restrictions are placed on what people can buy with food snaps does that not handicap people’s ability to self-regulate?

    “I have a friend constantly knocking Obama and others, but he and others
    completely ignore Bush and the others ….” – Not sure what this has to do with what I wrote. If you go back I have consistently said that I reject the failed policies of both Presidents Bush and Obama. We have had a miserable ten years of “Progressive” policies prescriptions. Of course, from their power hungry perspective, things are going swimmingly.

  320. 320 portia1776

    Congress Can’t Repeal Economics
    More evidence against ObamaCare rolls in.
    By John Stossel
    http://reason.com/archives/2010/10/07/congress-cant-repeal-economics

    “It’s raining! I don’t like it! Why hasn’t Congress passed the Good Weather Act and the Everybody Happy Act?

    Sound dumb?

    Why is it any dumber than a law called the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which promised to cover more for less money?

    When Obamacare was debated, we free-market advocates insisted that no matter what the president promised, the laws of economics cannot be repealed. Our opponents in effect answered, ‘Yes, we can.’

    Well, Obamacare has barely started taking effect, and the evidence is already rolling in. I hate to say we told them so, but … we told them so. The laws of economics have struck back.

    Health insurers Wellpoint, Cigna, Aetna, Humana and CoventryOne will stop writing policies for all children. Why? Because Obamacare requires that they insure already sick children for the same price as well children.

    That sounds compassionate, but — in case Obamacare fanatics haven’t noticed — sick children need more medical care. Insurance is about risk, and already sick children are 100 percent certain to be sick when their coverage begins. So if the government mandates that insurance companies cover sick children at the lower well-children price, insurers will quit the market rather than sandbag their shareholders. This is not callousness — it’s fiduciary responsibility. Insurance companies are not charities. So, thanks to the compassionate Congress and president, parents of sick children will be saved from expensive insurance — by being unable to obtain any insurance! That’s how government compassion works.

    In 2014, the same rule will kick in for adults. You now know what to expect.”

  321. 321 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “Insurance is about risk, and already sick children are 100 percent certain to be sick when their coverage begins.”

    I just finished rereading the Constitution and I thought I missed it so I searched for the word “insurance”. It’s amazing, I didn’t find it anywhere. Maybe I’m mistaken, but I simply couldn’t find anywhere that it said insurance companies had an inalienable right to exorbitant profits at our expense.

    Maybe this article points up the fact that insurance companies do not exist for anybody’s health but rather for the sole benefit of shareholders. Perhaps we need a system that does not depend upon healthy people paying money for nothing and sick people who will be denied coverage? What is the worth of a health industry that can’t even handle sick children?

    “It’s raining! I don’t like it! Why hasn’t Congress passed the Good Weather Act and the Everybody Happy Act?”

    Umm…that’s why we have NOAA and FEMA.

  322. 322 1george1

    “Why would I not like the above? I try not to take advantage of anyone.
    Never have.” — According to the Pelosi preversion of “fairness,”

    WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING or SNORTING.
    I NEVER SUPPORTED PElosi.

    Are you a member of INFRAGUARD, the COINTEL crew’s latest BUND?

    Economic success MUST have come at someones expense.

    PORTIA, that is ZERO SUM PREDATORY and ILLOGICAL statement.
    You have never heard of WIN – WIN – WIN SCENARIOS?

    Examples?

    I sell a product, which they buyer add to their line unique to the market.
    It does something no other product does.
    As a direct result their sales and profits increase.
    The end user gets great enjoyment (pyschic gratification) and finds ways
    to use this product to increase efficiency and productivity, doing things
    that have to be done, but faster and easier, which saves money. offsetting
    the cost.

    Since there is NOTHING comparable on the market, there is no loser,
    competing for the product.

    Since there is an increase in productivity and efficiency offsetting labor
    (time is money) cost, there is no loss related to discretionary spending,
    and becomes a net savings and increase in availability of discretionary
    spending, which allows everyone to win.

    I can do the same thing with SERVICES.

    YOU are likely to disagree with the above. FINE.

    What you will likely agree with, is a rising tide raises all boats in that FULL EMPLOYMENT with GOOD PAYING JOBS with GOOD BENEFITS generates more REVENUE, than HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT and HIGH UNDEREMPLOYMENT, which
    cost:
    > unemployment State payments
    > lower consumer spending, which was 70 % of GDP
    > decrease in healthy M-1, M-2, M-3 money supply velosity multipliers which
    Business / Personal spending to other businesses, allow them to pay supply
    chain companies, wholesalers, distributors, and OEM, who buy commodities
    and raw materials to produce products. Each company pays employees and
    managers.
    > Willfull destruction of POPULIST wealth by Bush / Cheney / Rockefeller
    Standard Oil Trust; allies in Military Intelligences and supply chain OEM, and “bipartisan” “multilateral” thieves, Hedge funds, and Money aggegators, decrease available money to the whole economy, which increase POWER / CONTROL / DEPENDENCY / DICTATORSHIP (which we hate)

    (- DOLLARS to narco / petro / slaver dictators which stay offshore, do not
    benefit to USA GNP / GDP)

    American Economics would benefit by being able to increase compensation
    and benefits to the lowest compensated through the middle middle class.
    How?
    > those not paying income tax, would have income taxes due
    > those on welfare, assistance, and unemployment, would be off the need.
    > those homeless / foreclosed / renter would pay property tax
    > those without cars / boats / business who gained would pay property and
    or corporate taxes
    > those with more discretionary spending would support retail / wholesale
    > those with pensions, IRA, 401, portfolios, health insurance would not be
    dependent on STATE PROGRAMS for the INDIGENT

    Unionism – True unionism kept compensation narrow, so as not to play
    workers against each other.
    True unionism kept compenation to be competative.
    The Marshall Plan, led to Trilateralism, which is led by Darwinian elitists,
    which plays to mentalities of Divine Right Royal Families, who use military
    and police to control and distract general populations, upon which they
    feed.

    The STANDARD OIL TRUST and their ilk, are well practiced at lying to the
    people, military, police, government and using betrayal and terrorism as
    weapons to steal everything they can.

  323. 323 portia1776

    Jez,

    “I just finished rereading the Constitution” – Really, that old thing? And why read the whole megillah? The ruling class has already determined that the only part that matters is the preamble, specifically “promote the general welfare.” Obviously the Founders had a social welfare state in mind with that phrase. The rest of that stuff about enumerated limits on government power, checks and balances, guaranteed individual liberties is just boilerplate… or so the “Progressives” and too many conservatives keep telling us 😉

    “and I thought I missed it so I searched for the word ‘insurance’. It’s amazing, I didn’t find it anywhere.” – Yes, in fact, providing food, health care, health insurance, bailing out failed but politically connected wall street firms, auto companies, and unions, “stimulating” the economy, spending tax dollars to give monkeys cocaine and subsidize rich people’s Volts, public housing, and so much more do not warrant mention. Since national government powers are helpfully listed it would logically follow that the power to intervene in those areas has not been granted; hence, there is no lawful national government interference. But I digress.

    “insurance companies had an inalienable right to exorbitant profits at our expense.” – Who determines “exorbitant”?

    You’re dodging the issue. As stated many times previously, I am no fan of insurance companies, which in a real reform bill would have been made to compete in a free market for consumers. Consumers, as they always do, would demand higher quality health care coverage and lower costs for insurance, dramatically improving the health insurance and care markets as they have in every other market in which providers need to prove their efficacy directly to consumers.

    Thanks to government intervention on behalf of (and collusion with) insurance companies, individual states currently are either the domains of one insurance company’s monopoly or a couple insurance comapnies cartel.

    I am even less of a fan of replacing insurance company bureaucrats with government bureaucrats, who are even less accountable.

    The issue here, though, is that laws have consequences. Price controls have particularly bad consequences. None of the proponents of ObamaCare wanted to deny children access to health insurance. However, because they didn’t think this through and just thought they could command-and-control the health insurance market with the best of intentions and everything would be alright, that is the result. To be “fair,” to borrow Nancy Pelosi’s meaning of the word, to already sick kids, no kids will be able to get coverage?

    Now that children across the country, healthy and sick, will not have access to insurance, I suppose ObamaCare proponents will start talking about the “necessity” of single-payer. After all, every private company has been forced out of the marketplace so the national government must step-in. Wasn’t that the goal in the first place? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE

    “Maybe this article points up the fact that insurance companies do not exist for anybody’s health but rather for the sole benefit of shareholders.” – That is the existing system. Obamacare replaces shareholders with other special interests, who similarly do not care about your health care quality and beneficial outcomes. Case in point, the new congressional hearing-dodging administrator of Medicare, Dr. Berwick. He wants to cap spending at a set percentage of GDP and to literally tell anyone whose health care costs would exceed the limits he determines to be “fair” to drop dead. That is not a real, positive change.

    “Perhaps we need a system that does not depend upon healthy people paying money for nothing and sick people who will be denied coverage?” – Most people aren’t paying for “nothing.” They are paying for protection. That is the definition of insurance. As for denials of coverage, do you know who actually denies the most claims? Admittedly, I don’t think that is the best metric to use but if you insist: Medicare. The numbers on RomneyCare, a microcosm for ObamaCare, are much more appalling.

    “What is the worth of a health industry that can’t even handle sick children?” – Not much, which is why I so vehemently oppose the adoption of worst practices that is the dubious achievement of ObamaCare or the existing status quo. Real reform, please!

    “that’s why we have NOAA and FEMA.” – LOL. Last I checked we still get hurricanes, tornados, and overcast days like today. Even in the Vonnegut story above, in a time of unlimited government and the handicapper general, controlling nature proves illusive: “Some things about living still weren’t quite right, though. April, for instance, still drove people crazy by not being springtime.” That doesn’t mean the national government hasn’t tried (and failed): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding Human nature and the laws of economics have proven just as unconquerable.

  324. 324 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “I suppose ObamaCare proponents will start talking about the “necessity” of single-payer.”

    I might argue this point differently but let’s use your “free market” method. By denying sick children coverage to preserve profits, the insurance companies may well force the government to further develop a single payer system. Oh well. I guess some of these executives are not so smart after all.

    “That is the existing system. Obamacare replaces shareholders with other special interests, who similarly do not care about your health care quality and beneficial outcomes.”

    I will state again, especially after sitting through the Committee hearings and watching a simple plan turn into a 2,500 page pile of crap, that this health care plan that you call “Obamacare” should be better called “Congress/Lobbyist Care”.

    “Real reform, please!”
    I actually agree. Intelligent people that are not employed by the current system can develop an viable alternative. Insurance companies, lawyers, pharmaceuticals and hospitals are the problem, not the solution.

    “Last I checked we still get hurricanes, tornados, and overcast days like today.”
    I still prefer three days notice or whether or not there will be snow on the mountain before I head up there.

  325. 325 portia1776

    “By denying sick children coverage to preserve profits, the insurance companies may well force the government to further develop a single payer system.” – So it’s the insurance companies fault that ObamaCare requires them to charge the same amount for all children in an age group regardless of how healthy they are? It’s their fault that ObamaCare will necessitate massive rate increases for healthy children to make covering sick children economically sustainable?

    “I guess some of these executives are not so smart after all.” – Not so fast. ObamaCare’s unconstitutional “individual mandate” REQUIRES individuals to buy insurance or face legal consequences. And since the law doesn’t kick in completely for four years, innsurance companies are able to ramp up premiums by 40% or more now to establish a minimum floor for the future. Guess all that special pleading and payola to Candidate Obama and Democrats was well worth it.

    “‘Obamacare’ should be better called ‘Congress/Lobbyist Care’.” – Agreed (see above).

    “I actually agree. Intelligent people that are not employed by the current system can develop an viable alternative. Insurance companies, lawyers, pharmaceuticals and hospitals are the problem, not the solution.” – Agreed. All of these problems have their basis in government interference in what should be a free market.

  326. 326 jezebel282

    Portia!

    “All of these problems have their basis in government interference in what should be a free market.”

    Obviously the health industry has learned to manipulate politicians at will. Yet you blame the politicians? That’s too easy, my friend. It’s not like they have principles, ethics or courage. (Remember, almost all of them used to be lawyers and they couldn’t even do that.)

    For decades, the health industry has reached into our pockets (and I include all of them). When you are really sick, you’ll believe anything if you think it’ll make you better.

    Have Americans made bad choices? Sure. We should all eat less, exercise more, not smoke or drink and get a good night’s sleep. We buy the least amount of car insurance the law allows and then speed down the road. We don’t go to the doctor as often as we should (perhaps if doctors prescribed a ribeye steak, two glasses of wine and plenty of sex we’d go more often).

    I am just unclear how insurance profits make you healthier.

  327. 327 cstratct

    Please explain the lack of “competition” in the insurance marketplace. The article cited mentions Wellpoint, Cigna, Aetna, Humana and CoventryOne.

    “The US managed healthcare industry includes about 1,000 companies with combined annual revenue of about $500 billion. Major companies include Aetna, UnitedHealth Group, and Humana, as well as the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association and Kaiser Permanente. The industry is highly concentrated: the 50 largest companies generate about 75 percent of revenue.”

    http://www.hoovers.com/industry/health-care-plans/1385-1.html

    Really, lack of competition is the problem?

    Many of these companies operate in multiple states, offering various plans to individuals and businesses, creating competition within the marketplace, and yet…over the past 25 years (since Reagan’s “reforms”), premiums have risen dramatically and services have been reduced.

    Of course the next claim will be that there is too much government interference. So if that is the argument, please explain how the elimination of government regulation will provide coverage for all Americans. If a publicly traded healthcare company’s only “responsibility” is to maximize profits for its shareholders, then the only option for those companies is to not insure those who present a risk to profits. So what does the market do with all those people? Or are they just out of luck?

  328. 328 1george1

    The Constitution is lacking in many specifics.

    That is not a bad thing, because:
    1 – Not being mentioned specifically, does not mean a right or obligation
    is not covered in a general sense or term.

    2 – Things change

    3 – Not all circumstances justify the same “solution.”

    The 1st amendment is taken to mean a separation of church and state.
    However that Tea Party candidate opened a witch’s brew in that the
    is a difference between State and “established religion.”
    > A closed or open reading could derive changes in interpretation.

    The supreme court decides what is constitutional and unconstitutional.

    It is up to the executive and legislation to create executive orders and
    legislative laws and regulations from which the courts can decide.

    > Bork and friends are against Courts creating legislation, which happened
    in Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education.

    I suspect Portia and Chris / Jeze will be disagreeing with what is
    Constitutional and Legal vs. what is moral, ethical, and decent?

    As D. C. comics puts it:
    There is
    TRUTH,
    JUSTICE,

    and
    THE AMERICAN WAY

  329. 329 portia1776

    Chris,

    I’m flattered, really, that you only post to attack me, but it is rather pointless to answer your insincere questions. I answered your “competition” canard a long time ago, yet here it is again. What am I supposed to make of this? Well, there are at least four options: 1.) you didn’t read the original post; 2.) you read but didn’t understand the original post; 3.) you read and understood the original post but forgot it; 4.) you read, understood, and remember the original post but can’t help yourself in asking again because, after all, the original post was just my “opinion” and only your fact-free opinions matter.

    Rather than respond with a long post that you will either fail to read, misread, or ignore, let me make this as simple as possible: in a free market insurance company cartels would not exist because government barriers to entry would not be protecting state-wide oligopolies (meaning a few companies that control the market). Similarly, employees would not be chained to whatever policy their employers decide to offer. Insurance companies would have to compete directly for consumers, by offering higher quality health care coverage and/or lower premiums. New insurance companies would be able to enter the marketplace, regardless of where they are based. Jez and I have our differences but are in complete agreement that health consumers, not health insurance companies, employers, or government bureaucrats, should be driving the market.

    Competition in and of itself does not a free market make. To claim otherwise, as you do even after having been corrected in your error previously, is patently ridiculous.

    Maybe I just should have just posted this cartoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmBLD9w-mzk

    Lastly, “please explain how the elimination of government regulation will provide coverage for all Americans” is yet another rephrase of your habitual anarchism jibe. For the final time, limited, constitutional government is not anarchism. The fact that you can’t get your head around that is not my problem. Nor is it my problem that you don’t understand that the unlimited, unconstitutional government that you support would necessarily lead to tyranny.

  330. 330 cstratct

    Portia,

    Where in the previous post did I “attack” you? You are either extremely thin-skinned, or you see any comment contrary to your own as an “attack.” Either way, you need a refresher course in what actually constitutes an “attack.” There was nothing personal in my previous post. In fact, there were no attacks of any sort in my post.

    And despite YOUR insults (which continue unabated), perhaps you missed the gist of my post. It is a simple point I am making: Regardless of who is supplying the healthcare (government or private corporations), there is absolutely no incentive in a profit driven market to provide services to those who either don’t have the resources to pay for health insurance (whether it be because of a total lack of resources due to unemployment or insufficient resources-income doesn’t meet expenses) or have medical conditions which make someone too great a financial risk for a company to insure.

    Interesting that I didn’t say anything in my most recent post regarding an “unlimited, unconstitutional government.” I didn’t say anything about what the government should or shouldn’t be doing with respect to healthcare or insurance. I simply showed that there are nearly 1,000 companies providing health insurance services in this country and despite the “competition” (which now you’re arguing doesn’t exist because there’s too much regulation), costs have continued to rise. I know, I know, you’ll come back with the “Competition in and of itself does not a free market make” argument. I didn’t say the competition was operating in an unfettered market, but as usual those facts don’t stop you from manipulating the primary point.

    So fine, wipe the slate clean. No oligopolies, no government interference. In what specific ways does this “direct to consumer” model result in lower costs? Lower overhead and/or fewer administrative costs? How does a free market not devolve into a similar situation (or worse) to what we have now? Unless we go with Sharron Angle’s idea of individuals bartering with doctors for healthcare directly (“But doctor, I don’t have any chickens!”), there will be a “middle man” with an administrative structure that will have to be supported. The organization will make decisions on who is “insurable” and decide what services/procedures are acceptable or unacceptable, with the primary purpose being the maximization of profits. A company operating under the free market you appear to promote would have to do everything it could to minimize risk, meaning the corporation would be responsible for regulating the care an individual receives so as not to diminish its potential for profit.

    So the question remains, what happens to those individuals deemed “uninsurable” by the market? If someone can’t afford coverage what are their options in the unfettered market? Should we expect the not-for-profit sector to support those individuals? Where do the funds come from to support those institutions that would tend to the “uninsurable”? Or do they simply go without?

    Now it’s clear from your most recent post that you can’t help yourself when it comes to insulting me. Not a surprise since you never acknowledged that I very clearly extended an olive branch back in September, pointed to the specific post, and was met with complete silence. So get over yourself Portia.

  331. 331 portia1776

    Chris,

    Needless to say the simple point you are making here is different from the simple (and wrong) point you made previously. It’s hard to read “Really, lack of competition is the problem?” as anything other than you saying that, to your mind, there is “competition” in the health insurance market ergo the problems of the health insurance market are somehow free-market capitalism’s fault.

    “Regardless of who is supplying the healthcare (government or private corporations), there is absolutely no incentive in a profit driven market…” – While I have quibbles (government provided health insurance is obviously not profit driven), this is mostly tautology. Those who cannot afford health insurance are not able to obtain it, just like those who can’t afford BMW’s don’t generally own BMW’s. Those who have preexisting conditions are liable to pay more, just as those in car accidents or with high cholesterol face increased premiums for car and life insurances.

    No one denies the existence of these realities. The question is how they are addressed. I prefer a manner that is consistent with the principles of individual liberty, which also has the benefit of working in practice to provide the highest quality medical care at the lowest possible cost.

    “I simply showed that there are nearly 1,000 companies providing health insurance services in this country and despite the ‘competition’ (which now you’re arguing doesn’t exist because there’s too much regulation), costs have continued to rise.” – Yes, stupid regulations that only serve corporate and political interests over those of health insurance and care consumers do render the “competition” of which you speak mostly meaningless, as evidenced by the continual rise in premium prices and co-pays coupled with ever-diminishing coverage.

    Given that free-market advocates have been opposed to the existing health insurance market and its distortive effects on the health care market, it is more than a tad disingenuous to blame us for the “government failure” of the all-knowing central planners.

    “I didn’t say the competition was operating in an unfettered market, but as usual those facts don’t stop you from manipulating the primary point.” – Last I checked, states regulate car, life, and house insurances companies all the time. While I oppose mandates for things that consumers are better left to determine on their own, individual states and the national government (regarding trade between the states) have regulatory roles to play in any free market for health insurance, as well.

    “So fine, wipe the slate clean. No oligopolies, no government interference.” – I’m game, provided “no government interference” is not anarchic (see above).

    “In what specific ways does this ‘direct to consumer’ model result in lower costs? Lower overhead and/or fewer administrative costs?”– Chris, you write as if this is theory when, as I’ve pointed out so many times before, the examples of free market efficacy in reducing costs and maximizing quality are all around and unrivaled. In fact, where the free market has been allowed in medicine, it has functioned exactly as it does in all other settings.

    For example: the cost of Lasik eye surgery, a complex and delicate procedure that is typically not covered by insurance, has “exponentially, astronomically, shockingly” (to borrow Jez’s phrase) decreased over the last ten years.

    “…what’s the best way to fix our health care system, which is an inefficient, complicated mess of private actors, third-party payers, public subsidies, and innumerable state and federal regulations? Should we place our faith in the government or in the free market?

    ObamaCare supporters argue that the answer lies in more government—more subsidies, more regulations, a law mandating individuals buy health-insurance coverage and, of course, more taxes to pay for it all.

    The alternative is to base reforms on what works in the other five-sixths of the U.S. economy, where choice and competition increase quality and drive down prices over time…

    ‘How to Fix Health Care’ (http://reason.com/blog/2009/12/02/reasontv-how-to-fix-health-car ) proposes three simple reforms that will put us on a path to a health-care system that’s better, more affordable, and more accessible.”

    “How does a free market not devolve into a similar situation (or worse) to what we have now? Unless we go with Sharron Angle’s idea of individuals bartering with doctors for healthcare directly” – Do you pay for groceries with thimbles? Has the free market in computers and technology led to people trading donkeys for Dells and kidneys for Compaqs? Of course not.

    Free markets don’t dissolve into barter systems unless the currency becomes incredibly debased (btw, this happened in the Soviet Union. I know someone from Minsk who told me that if he needed to get something done, Vodka was the only currency worth anything; rubles were wall paper).

    That said, my dentist has for decades accepted payment in vegetables, fruits, and prepared food. Several uninsured clients could not afford to go otherwise. He is an Italian mentch.

    “The organization will make decisions on who is ‘insurable’…” – My ideal, as articulated by many others, is for insurance companies only to cover catastrophic illnesses. Car insurance doesn’t cover tune-ups. Homeowners insurance doesn’t cover light bulb replacement. Insurance is not meant for everyday expenses, and the inefficiencies of the health care market show why. The third-party costs alone are a ridiculous burden for routine medical expenses.

    Consumers would have ample money to spend on their regular medical expenses if employer provided insurance was ended and that sizable portion of their salary returned to them to do with as they please. This would also eliminate the risk of loss of coverage, which worries many Americans and causes too many to avoid changing jobs as a result.

    On the free individual health insurance market, consumers would be empowered to choose between an array of options (I imagine the following commercial in such a free-market health system: ‘fifteen minutes will save you fifteen thousand dollars on health insurance’).

    Yes, insurance companies will seek to minimize risk and maximize profit. But, in a free market, insurance companies would be beholden to consumers, who would want to minimize cost and maximize value. These competing interests create market pressures that best match the consumers’ willingness to pay with the insurance companies’ willingness to provide services.

    As for the individuals deemed “uninsurable,” – and, you’re right, they will always exist – what can be done? Many would in fact be able to obtain coverage from high risk insurers specifically catering to their segment of the free market. The ability to choose catastrophic coverage would be much more affordable than current mandate-heavy options.

    For those who still could not afford coverage, there are a several possible options. One is indeed for non-profits to provide subsidized health insurance (in fact, many do so now). Another is for non-profits to provide subsidized health care (in fact, many do so now, including via their own hospitals). The third option is for states to provide subsidized health insurance (in fact, many do so now). Considering that all three options are already proven in the real-world, I think it reasonable to recognize their viability in a free market for health insurance.

    Lastly, I’m not really interested in olive branches. I prefer the glow of burning olive oil.

  332. 332 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “Those who cannot afford health insurance are not able to obtain it, just like those who can’t afford BMW’s don’t generally own BMW’s.”

    Whoa! Where did THAT come from? A sick 5 year old seeing a doctor is like buying a BMW? You can’t really mean to go there can you, Portia? The 5 year old who owns lot’s of real estate and runs a hedge fund is more entitled?

    “Those who have preexisting conditions are liable to pay more”
    Actually they are more likely to be denied coverage at all.

    “I prefer a manner that is consistent with the principles of individual liberty”
    If your preference is to deny coverage to anyone who can’t afford to see a doctor, then your preferences…well, let’s just say I don’t agree with them.

    “not covered by insurance, has “exponentially, astronomically, shockingly” (to borrow Jez’s phrase) decreased over the last ten years.”
    And yet the cost of other elective surgeries have gone up. Go figure.

    “stupid regulations that only serve corporate and political interests over those of health insurance and care consumers do render the “competition” of which you speak mostly meaningless”
    You mean like basic insurance covering mammograms, yearly physicals, delivery rooms or emergency services? Those “stupid regulations”?

    “ObamaCare supporters argue that the answer lies in more government—more subsidies, more regulations, a law mandating individuals buy health-insurance coverage and, of course, more taxes to pay for it all.”
    There you go again. Am I starting to sound like Reagan? You start off with the fallacy that this is Obama’s plan. It is not. It is the plan that came from the millions of dollars of influence of the healthcare industry. What most Obama supporters really want is freedom of choice. You want Medicare? Fine. You want private luxurious medical care? That’s fine too.

    ‘fifteen minutes will save you fifteen thousand dollars on health insurance”*
    *Not available in States that require actual healthcare.

    “But, in a free market, insurance companies would be beholden to consumers, who would want to minimize cost and maximize value.”
    In 35 years of experience the only ones I’ve found that companies were ever beholden to were owners or shareholders. They are not even beholden to their management nor employees (just ask 17 million unemployed Americans). As I have said before, companies are merely groups of people organized to produce a profit. No matter what the Court says, they are not a living breathing thinking individual. That is a legal mechanism, nothing more.

    “Consumers would have ample money to spend on their regular medical expenses if employer provided insurance was ended and that sizable portion of their salary returned to them to do with as they please.”
    IF they were old enough (or young enough) to work or have a job in the first place.

    “Considering that all three options are already proven in the real-world, I think it reasonable to recognize their viability in a free market for health insurance.”
    Considering there are a few smart people left in the U.S. (they are well hidden) I am not convinced these are the only options possible.

    “Lastly, I’m not really interested in olive branches. I prefer the glow of burning olive oil.”
    Nice to see you two are still getting along so well.

  333. 333 sudds

    TRUE STORY…

    My friend was just in London. While there, he was in a car accident. As such, he went to the hospital, got checked-out (x-rays and all)… told him he just had bad bruising, and sent him on his way with a bill for about about $50!!!

    (don’t get too excited yet Jezzy-Baby)

    He comes home (after what he says felt like 16 years on a plane because of the pain), and goes to his doc. His doc sends him for more x-rays. Doc says that he has three broken ribs! Wraps him up, and sends him on his way with a co-pay of $20!!!

    OK Portia… have at it…

    (why YES… I DO enjoy (stirring the pot”) 😆

  334. 334 cstratct

    Well Portia,

    Your last statement certainly shows your true colors. But it is exactly what I expected from you.

    Regardless, there’s a lot to address in your last post, some of which has already been addressed by Jezebel.

    But let’s start here: “Consumers would have ample money to spend on their regular medical expenses if employer provided insurance was ended and that sizable portion of their salary returned to them to do with as they please.”

    So all those part-time employees making minimum wage who don’t get benefits are suddenly going to get a windfall from “that sizable portion of their salary returned to them”? They don’t get any benefits to begin with, so where is that sizable portion coming from? Employers have been shifting from employing large numbers of full-time employees to employing part-time employees specifically to avoid having to provide benefits.

    “In November 2008, 7.3 million persons were employed part time for economic reasons, up by 3.4 million from a recent low of 3.9 million in April 2006.”

    “Sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers and viewed as underemployed, these individuals wanted full-time jobs but worked less than 35 hours during the survey reference week primarily due to slack work (a reduction in hours in response to unfavorable business conditions) or the inability to find full-time work.”

    http://www.bls.gov/opub/ils/pdf/opbils71.pdf

    And back to the minimum wage argument for a moment. Exactly how are people supposed to pay for food, housing and transportation, let alone healthcare, on $7.25 an hour? Even the best money manager would have a tough (if not impossible) time making the numbers work.

    “For those who still could not afford coverage, there are a several possible options. One is indeed for non-profits to provide subsidized health insurance (in fact, many do so now). Another is for non-profits to provide subsidized health care (in fact, many do so now, including via their own hospitals). The third option is for states to provide subsidized health insurance (in fact, many do so now). Considering that all three options are already proven in the real-world, I think it reasonable to recognize their viability in a free market for health insurance.”

    So now you’re arguing that the states should have a role in providing subsidized health insurance? After all your pontificating on the evils of government intervention. Even on a state level, can you show me which state has a constitutional mandate to provide those services? I checked PA’s Constitution, nothing there.

  335. 335 jezebel282

    Sudds,

    “I DO enjoy (stirring the pot””

    You need a bigger spoon.

    “Doc says that he has three broken ribs! ”

    I certainly hope he got a scrip for some heavy duty percocets from somebody because that’s all you can do for broken ribs. They don’t “wrap” them anymore and they haven’t for about 20 years.

  336. 336 1george1

    Sudds,
    Good story and example.
    One caveat: The same LONDON missed diagnosis could have happened
    in the USA. We know first and second hand.

    Would everyone agree, that:
    1 – If everyone was entitled to 1 free check up every year or 2 years,
    far more people who get the free check up, than presently?

    2 – From a decency point of view, such a situation would be desireable?

    3 – The FREE check up would likely find medical problems, needing
    treatment that would be:
    A) more likely to be fixable, at less costs, than if allowed to go untreated.

    4 – Some how, some one would have to pay for the FREE check up.

    A) Perhaps there can be Tax and Loan incentives to create more doctors
    and nurses, which are needed anyway because of BABY BOOMERS?

    B) Perhaps nursing homes and assisted living, which need money can become
    places with 4 rooms for FREE check ups, paid by flat rates for specific
    series of tests, where economy to scale “might” reduce some costs?

    5 – Why does health care have to be either PRIVATE or PUBLIC, when it
    could be both, with
    A) the basic check ups and certain treatments paid by Government
    B) Rolls Royce level Treatment paid by the RICH
    C) Lincoln level Treatment paid by the upper / middle class healthcare
    D) Some sort of mixed paid treatment for non seniors low / fixed income
    E) Medicaid for seniors, which will need reforms.

    Most of this goes back to a HEALTHY ECONOMY where a RISING TIDE raises
    the LEVEL of ALL BOATS.

    Many of the REPUBLICAN and DEMOCRATIC platforms and economics are
    outright L I E S.

    Much of what PORTIA appears to support is either IDEALISTIC or DARWINIAN.
    Much of what JEZE/CHRIS appears to support is either IDEALISTIC or near
    socialism, which is some cases can be good.

    Both the churches and the Marxist / Socialist teach everyone to READ.

    The IRONY is that when people know how to READ and COMPREHEND,
    much of the RELIGION and PHILOSOPHY are transparent B U N K.

    However, properly practiced religion and social sciences teach people how
    to “place nice” and “get along together.”

    Much of that problem of political economic social issues is that many people
    have NO INTEREST in PLAYING NICE, nor GETTING ALONG.

    The “DARK SIDE” of h u m a n i t y is worse than selfish, it is beyond cruel
    and sadistic, but surpasses schadenfreude.

    Sudds’ sarcasm is puppy love by comparison.

  337. 337 sudds

    “I certainly hope he got a scrip for some heavy duty percocets…”

    WTF??? I’ve broken ribs three times, and all I ever gotten was a prescription to “suck it up”!!!

    I want a new doctor!!!

  338. 338 jezebel282

    Sudds,

    “I want a new doctor!!!”

    Maybe your doctor has a keen sense of justice?

  339. 339 cstratct

    “Much of what JEZE/CHRIS appears to support is either IDEALISTIC or near
    socialism, which is some cases can be good.”

    George, I haven’t talked too much about what I support on this particular issue because I’m open to whatever is the “best” (being a relative term) solution. The questions I have posed in many cases relate to individual beliefs of whether one thinks of healthcare as a right or a privilege. I certainly don’t subscribe to the belief that “Those who cannot afford health insurance are not able to obtain it, just like those who can’t afford BMW’s don’t generally own BMW’s.” I don’t see healthcare as a privilege only available to those who can afford it. Nor do I believe it is as simple as letting each person fend for himself/herself with respect to obtaining healthcare.

    Were there a true market-driven model that would provide healthcare to those who need it, regardless of income level or status, I would wholeheartedly support it. I do have a problem with companies making profits on the health/sickness of individuals, but I wouldn’t even care about that if the individuals were properly treated and received that treatment without having to fight a faceless company to get it.

    It it were possible to have a “no middle man” (read no insurance company) model, the only profit-taker in that scenario would be the doctor himself/herself. But that’s certainly not the case is it? Given all the things that can go wrong with the human body, and all the specializations within the medical field, it just isn’t a realistic option. So we’re left with our insurance companies who are more than willing to provide said insurance as long as one doesn’t have a pre-existing condition or some other reason for denying coverage. Then you have to go to the doctors the company tells you to (unless you want to cover the costs yourself) and then if there is a problem and the doctor recommends a treatment that is not covered by the company you have to pay that out of pocket as well.

    I’m not seeing where any of that would change were there a market-only model with even minimal government regulation.

    Portia keeps referring to free-market models that support this concept, but the Lasik example defeats itself as Portia points out that it is not covered by insurance. So the only people who can take advantage of Lasik are those that can afford it. And the price is not as “reasonable” as Portia suggests. Just because a price has decreased doesn’t mean it is affordable.

    “According to a survey of refractive surgeons by a leading industry analyst that was commissioned by AllAboutVision.com, the average price for LASIK eye surgery performed in the United States in early 2010 was approximately $2,150 per eye.”

    http://www.lasiksurgerynews.com/news/How-much-does-LASIK-cost.shtml

    If Lasik is the best option, what good is an insurance policy that doesn’t provide the benefits necessary to cover the costs of the procedure? Now we would get into a discussion on the elective vs. emergency surgery. But what if something is medically necessary but not emergency? Now you’re into the grey area where it comes down to a battle of wills, and in many cases the insurance company wins.

    Would I prefer the minimum amount of government involvement in many issues, including healthcare? Sure. But given the complexity of the world we live in I think the solutions to this and many other issues are far more complex then a simple free market solution.

  340. 340 1george1

    Sudds:
    “all I ever gotten was a prescription to “suck it up”!!!”

    Geo:
    I hope your doctor was not gay?
    – – –

    Jeze:
    “Maybe your doctor has a keen sense of justice?”

    Geo:
    Based on past posts, I was under the impression Sudds has a choice
    of doctors?

    Sudds situation reminds me of the JOKE:

    What did the “sadist” say to the “masochist,”

    when the “masochist”

    asked the “sadist”

    to “hurt him?”

    “Sadist” relied: “NO!”

    and smiled!

    Below is N O T aimed at Sudds or A N Y specific blog reader:

    Masochist:
    1. Psychiatry . the condition in which sexual gratification depends
    on suffering, physical pain, and humiliation.

    2. gratification gained from pain, deprivation, degradation, etc.,
    inflicted or imposed on oneself, either as a result of one’s own
    actions or the actions of others, esp. the tendency to seek this
    form of gratification.

    3. the act of turning one’s destructive tendencies inward or upon oneself.

    4. the tendency to find pleasure in self-denial, submissiveness, etc.

    ——————————————————————————–

    Origin:
    1890–95; named after L. von Sacher-Masoch, who described it;

    ——————————————————————————-

    sadist:
    1. The deriving of sexual gratification or the tendency to derive sexual gratification from inflicting pain or emotional abuse on others.
    2. The deriving of pleasure, or the tendency to derive pleasure, from cruelty.
    3. Extreme cruelty.

    —————————————————————————–

    schadenfreude
    Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.

    [German : Schaden, damage (from Middle High German schade,
    from Old High German scado) + Freude, joy
    (from Middle High German vreude , from Old High German frewida,
    from frō, happy).]

    —————————————————————————-

    mirror
    1. A surface capable of reflecting sufficient undiffused light to form an
    image of an object placed in front of it. Also called looking glass.
    2. Something that faithfully reflects or gives a true picture of something else.

    ——-

    It was claimed that Vampires were soulless and could not see reflections
    of themselves in the mirror.

    I wonder if any blog readers know people appropriate to the definitions?

  341. 341 sudds

    George,

    1) this HAS to be your most convoluted posting EVER!!!

    2) “Geo: I hope your doctor was not gay?”
    a) what the @#$% do I care if he’s gay?
    b) a bit homo-phobic big guy???

  342. 342 sudds

    Jez,

    “Maybe your doctor has a keen sense of justice?”

    OUCH! 😦

  343. 343 portia1776

    Jez,

    “Whoa! Where did THAT come from? A sick 5 year old seeing a doctor is like buying a BMW?” – Does anyone know the meaning of the word “tautology”? Are you denying the fact that if someone can’t afford health insurance they are not able to obtain it now? Considering you think people who can’t afford their mortgages (or 2nd mortgages) should still get to keep their houses, perhaps so.

    The point remains, however, that many children, healthy or sick, can’t get insurance now because of ObamaCare (see above). Moreover, a sick 5 year old would be better served by a free-market in health insurance than either under ObamaCare or the current system.

    “If your preference is to deny coverage to anyone who can’t afford to see a doctor, then your preferences…well, let’s just say I don’t agree with them.” – What? We were talking about health insurance, which, despite the widespread confusion, is not the same as health care. No one, least of all moi, is talking about denying people health care.

    “And yet the cost of other elective surgeries have gone up. Go figure.” – That makes perfect sense. Lasik has the benefit of an economy of scale whereas elective surgeries are, by definition, individualized.

    “You mean like basic insurance covering mammograms, yearly physicals, delivery rooms or emergency services? Those ‘stupid regulations’?” – I prefer catastrophic insurance, as stated. But if you wish to talk about basic insurance, what makes you think that women are not smart enough to choose insurance with coverage for mammograms? You’re right to argue that under the current system these things have to be mandated because insurance companies don’t have to please consumers. In a free-market, however, consumers are perfectly capable of deciding what they need for themselves, just like they do now in myriad other life decisions.

    To quote my favorite (if ironic) line from the Internationale: “We want no condescending saviors [Obama? Blumenthal? Miron?]/To rule us from their judgment hall,/We workers ask not for their favors/ Let us consult for all”

    “ObamaCare supporters argue that the answer lies in more government—more subsidies, more regulations, a law mandating individuals buy health-insurance coverage and, of course, more taxes to pay for it all.” – This is a quote from the Reason Mag video, not written by moi. But which part of this is untrue? Right, it’s all true, and you know it.

    “What most Obama supporters really want is freedom of choice.” – No, most Obama supporters, including Obama himself, want single-payer, i.e., one choice. Be that as it is, what choice do parents have now to insure their kids in the states where ObamaCare has ALREADY killed the private market? If this abomination was about “freedom of choice” how come it only entrenches insurances companies rather than breaking down barriers to allow for a free-market? At the heart of the law is an unconstitutional mandate that requires everyone to buy government-approved insurance or face legal consequences. That may be a choice (buy insurance or be fined), but surely you’re not saying it is “freely” made.

    May I suggest the cartoon again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmBLD9w-mzk
    It’s very short. Take a look….

    “*Not available in States that require actual healthcare.” – Was this post meant in jest? If not, you missed the whole point. Chris asked, hypothetically, what a free-market in health care would look like. Clearly, I was not discussing the present. As you have written, and on which we agree, the present system is very far from a free-market. That is the central problem with it.

    “In 35 years of experience the only ones I’ve found that companies were ever beholden to were owners or shareholders.” – What exactly happens to companies that don’t serve their customers interests? Oh, right, before Bush and Obama, they went out of business. Given all your experience it is staggering that you fail to understand that companies are not guaranteed success, consumers are not guaranteed to purchase your product or service just because you make it. How does Rotary Drug stay in business with all the competition from the big box stores and supermarket pharmacies? They cater to their customers.

    “No matter what the Court says, they are not a living breathing thinking individual.” – Really, the Citizens United fallacy, again? For the final time, the ruling was about whether the national government had the authority to censor the political free speech of individuals freely associating, whether in for-profit or non-profit corporations. The answer was “no” per the Bill of Rights (“Congress shall make no law…”).

    “IF they were old enough (or young enough) to work or have a job in the first place.” – True, but one problem at a time! As they say in econ 101: ceteris paribus.

    “Considering there are a few smart people left in the U.S. (they are well hidden) I am not convinced these are the only options possible.” – Agreed on both counts.

  344. 344 portia1776

    Chris,

    “Your last statement certainly shows your true colors.” – Yes, I am an advocate of individual liberty. I support principled solutions that would result in higher quality health care and lower insurance costs. What exactly is the alternative? Well, the centrally planned “solution” will destroy innovation, reduce quality, and cause sky-rocketing costs to be borne by taxpayers. You have clearly stated what your preferred method is, or do you not have one?

    “So all those part-time employees making minimum wage who don’t get benefits are suddenly going to get a windfall” – Well, of course not. Part-time employees who don’t currently receive benefits would, however, benefit from the lower premium costs, which would put insurance within their price range. Catastrophic coverage would be exceedingly cheep by today’s standards due to the economy of scale. What you also must consider is that many of the part-time workers I know get insurance via their full-time spouse. In this scenario the full-time spouse would get the windfall, to the benefit of them both as well as their children.

    “Employers have been shifting from employing large numbers of full-time employees to employing part-time employees specifically to avoid having to provide benefits.” – Yes, laws do have consequences, and rationale people generally act in their economic self-interest.

    “Exactly how are people supposed to pay for food, housing and transportation, let alone healthcare, on $7.25 an hour? Even the best money manager would have a tough (if not impossible) time making the numbers work.” – If the assumption is that insurance prices will stay the same as they do now, you have a point. However, there is ample experiential evidence that premium prices would fall. Many people on minimum wage that I know manage to afford a car and thus car insurance. The problem of scarcity, despite what Marx and Keynesians say, is real.

    “So now you’re arguing that the states should have a role in providing subsidized health insurance? After all your pontificating on the evils of government intervention.” – I have consistently argued against unconstitutional, national government intervention. A correct reading of the Commerce Clause does clearly provide a limited role for the national government, given that, in a free-market, insurance would be sold over state lines.

    I have also consistently argued for a more nuanced view than government intervention = always good or always bad. Rather, intervention always has consequences: intended and unintended, good and bad. Those must be taken into consideration when discussing policy.

    States providing subsidizes for health insurance may be a bad or good idea, my point was that it represents a viable option that is already in use.

    As to the constitutionality of a states providing such subsidies: to my knowledge the existing programs in CT are not covered by our Constitution. This, of course, would have to be amended if taxpayers decide that these programs should continue.

    One side point: Husky, unbelievably, has no means test. Why should our tax dollars go to pay for the children of wealthy parents to get their yearly check-ups?! I would love to hear a defense of this insanity at a time when our state is bankrupt and the state economy has been preforming worse than the national average for years.

  345. 345 1george1

    SUDDS: George,
    1) this HAS to be your most convoluted posting EVER!!!
    2) “Geo: I hope your doctor was not gay?”
    a) what the @#$% do I care if he’s gay?
    b) a bit homo-phobic big guy???

    GEO:
    The GAY reference was actually a play on words to your post
    “to suck it up.”
    Sudds – Aren’t you the one preoccupied with “anal cavities?”

    I am only teasing….
    Sudds, are you the only one who can tease or be sarcastic?

    PORTIA taught me another new word “Tautology.”

    PORTIA’s post was directed at JEZE and some at CHRIS.
    I scored Chris’s controlled and limited reply as a 10 – 8 round.

    Regardless of the fact that PORTIA has a superior vocabulary, writing skills,
    and ability to reference – some arguments lack cogent effectiveness.

    I read for substance, rather than posturing, obloquy, or vituperation.

    I thought Chris made superior and concise points and counter points,
    in the above post / counter post.

    (jabs, body punches, and shots that connected, rather than wild
    swings which do not connect, nor inflict effective damage.)

    I scored Chris’s controlled and limited reply as a 10 – 8 round.

    Chris had the advantages of picking what to attack and that mostly
    Portia’s post was directed elsewhere.

    There are times, PORTIA’S diatribes become fulmination / blatherous.
    There are times, PORTIA’S expositions are eloquent, educational,and
    profound.

    Before others get there – I plead more guilty than PORTIA … 😉