The Least Worst

21Oct10

After Election Planning

It’s that time again. We are again confronted by the least worst choices that will govern us for at least another two years. Please take a moment to visit http://www.townofstratford.com/content/1302/402/631/default.aspx#sample and closely examine your choices in your particular district.

As usual, listed below are the editor’s picks:

* denotes winner

Judge of Probate:
Paul Kurmay*
Kent Miller

Attorney General:
Martha Dean
George Jepson*

State Representative (121 District):
Casimir Mizera
Terry Backer*

State Representative (120 District):
Laura Hoydick*
Robert Bradley

State Representative (122 District)
Lawrence Miller*
Cheryl Jansen

State Senator: (21st District)
Kevin Kelly*
James Miron
Joseph McNeil (Write in Candidate)

State Senator (23rd District):
Milton Johnson
Edwin Gomes*

Representative in Congress (3rd District):
Jerry Labriola jr.
Rosa DeLauro*

Representative in Congress (4th District)
Dan Debicella
Jim Himes*

United States Senator:
Linda McMahon
Richard Blumenthal*

Governor:
Tom Foley
Dan Malloy*

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86 Responses to “The Least Worst”

  1. 1 jezebel282

    Just a couple of added thoughts.

    It should be obvious to regular readers that we would not endorse James Miron nor Kent Miller for any office, position or employment. That they are running at all tells you that the Democratic Town Committee is bent upon self destruction.

    As for Blumenthal/McMahon, we were greatly disappointed in Blumenthal’s treatment of Richard Miron. However, he shares that awful settlement with John Smriga of the State Prosecutor’s Office who does not report to Blumenthal.

    The only citizens that would benefit by voting for McMahon are those who incomes exceed $1 million/year. The rest of us would be set adrift. Her other base are fans of WWF, but unfortunately for McMahon twelve year olds can’t vote.

  2. 2 1george1

    Jeze,
    I guess you have not been present at Town council or other meetings
    when Esq Burturla warmly spoke about Probate Judge Paul Kurmay.

    I would encourage everyone to write in on every voting line.
    MICKEY MOUSE
    MICKEY MANTLE
    NONE of the ABOVE

    I really do not care who you write in.
    But write in someone other than the candidate on every vote,
    if you disagree with the choices .. please VOTE!

  3. 3 jezebel282

    George,

    It may have missed your attention (it usually does) but the Topic headline is the “Least Worst”. Kent Miller or Miron are the absolute worst.

  4. 4 portia1776

    Jez,

    I’m not sure what to make of this. While I am heartened that your recommendations are not dogmatically democratic it is unclear in some cases why one candidate is better (or less bad) than the other. For examples, what principles guided your choosing between Debicella and Himes or Dean and Jepsen?

    Just as interesting is what races you left out: comptroller, treasurer, and secretary of state. These are critical positions that have gotten far too little attention. I would guess most people don’t even know who the candidates are, no less consider themselves qualified to judge the candidates merits and demerits.

    In any case, I fully agree that Miron and the chronic Mironites (Mironistas) have disqualified themselves for consideration, having so thoroughly desecrated the public trust. Blumenthal has done likewise, with his judicial thuggery (ex parte proceedings) and pervasive politicization of what should be a non-partisan office. For instance:

    “In January, Blumenthal watched a state jury award $18 million to Gina Malapanis of Computer Plus Center, who was accused of failing to deliver on a state computer contract.

    It was a stunning defeat for the attorney general, who initially sought $1.7 million in reimbursement and penalties from Malapanis. [Blumenthal had her] arrested by state police and charged with 5th degree larceny months after her computers, company records and office safes were seized. The charge was later dismissed after the state offered Malapanis accelerated rehabilitation, which she accepted.

    Malapanis countersued the state, claiming Blumenthal’s actions, including huge liens placed against her business and property, destroyed her company. Six years after Blumenthal sued Malapanis, a jury awarded her $18 million in damages. That award was reduced to $1.8 million a few months ago, and Blumenthal continues to appeal (http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Blumenthal-The-A-in-AG-is-for-Activist-617917.php ).”

    To Blumenthal one is guilty until proven otherwise, liable to be arrested, having your assets frozen, and your life destroyed. Unless, of course, you’re name is Dick Miron, in which case, you can rob however many grieving families, seniors, and disabled people you want and take your sweet time paying them back interest free. No worries, no punishment, no problem.

    But what choice, really, is the candidate from the WWE? First, don’t blame me I supported Schiff! Second, Blumenthal and McMahon are both out for millionaires — themselves. Has anyone noticed that both candidates support using our tax money to benefit their favorite special interests, including “small businesses” and “green” jobs?

    I do not see a good argument in favor of supporting the candidate from the WWE. Not being Blumenthal is not enough. My opinion would have been different if she actually meant some of the things on her website. Her campaign has shown that a.) she didn’t write those positions, b.) may not have even read them, and c.) that the positions she does articulate may be right or wrong but in all cases are unprincipled. For someone who’s stated position is, rightly, to “resist protectionist policies that hamper global trade and investment” why the silence when Blumenthal advances anti-free trade, pro-poverty polices straight out of the age of mercantalism? If you can’t stand-up for economic liberty and prosperity in a silly debate how are you going to do it in the den of iniquity that is Congress?

    One final note. Blumenthal’s unconstitutional misdeeds wreck peoples lives, serve his own vain interests, benefit his favored special interests, but they also errode justice. We need an AG – my vote is for the well credentialed and principled Martha Dean – who understands just how important a role their office has to play in upholding the Rule of Law, the bedrock of constitutional government. F.A. Hayek explained that:

    “Nothing distinguishes more clearly conditions in a free country from those in a country under arbitrary government than the observance in the former of the great principles known as the Rule of Law. Stripped of all technicalities, this means that government in all its actions is bound by rules fixed an announced beforehand — rules which make it possible to foresee with fair certainty how the authority will use its coercive power in given circumstances and to plan one’s individual affairs on the basis of this knowledge. Though this ideal can never be perfectly achieved, since legislators as well as those to whom the administration of the law is intrusted are fallible men, the essential point, that the discretion left to the executive organs wielding coercive power should be reduced as much as possible, is clear enough. While every law restricts individual freedom to some extent by altering the means which people may use in the pursuit of their aims, under the Rule of Law the government is prevented from stultifying individual efforts by ad hoc action. Within the known rules of the game the individual is free to pursue his personal ends and desires, certain that the powers of government will not be used deliberately to frustrate his efforts.”

  5. 5 portia1776

    I was not familiar with Milton Johnson’s candidacy. Milton, one of Bridgeport’s finest, a member of the Connecticut Commission on Human Rights and Opportunities, and a Republican, would be a great improvement over Gomes, and would add much needed ideological diversity to the one-party Democratic rule that continues to give us massive deficits, mismanaged pension funds, ever-increasing confiscatory taxation and excessive regulation, and outright corruption.

    Johnson articulates a no-nonsense pro-growth economic agenda:

    “As your State Senator, I will propose and support legislation that provides for lower taxes for my constituents. It is time for Connecticut to lose its distinction as the highest taxed state in America.”

    “This current legislative session ended with our state facing a nearly 1 billion dollar deficit. The next legislative team will be staring at a deficit of 3 billion dollars, yet a decrease in government spending was not part of that budget package. That is not how everyday people deal with a decrease in their household incomes, and it shouldn’t be how our legislative body handles our revenue shortfall. Milton will propose and support legislation that imposes strict limits on the legislature’s ability to overspend and increase taxes.”

    “Over the past two years, Connecticut has lost over 100,000 jobs, and 88,000 businesses have either closed down, or moved out of state. Our unemployment rate has also risen from around 7% to 9.4%, during the same period. As your State Senator, Milton will focus on helping to create a business friendly climate, through lowering taxes, and eliminating unnecessary fees, restrictions and mandates”

    Milton is absolutely right: “Two years of this failed legislative policy is two years too long, and Connecticut residents have had enough, and deserve better. We need to cut taxes, control spending, and improve our system of education state wide. That’s what businesses look for in choosing a destination, and businesses create jobs (http://johnsonforsenate.victorydiy.com/?Page=issues ).”

    Nice pick, Jez!

  6. 6 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “it is unclear in some cases why one candidate is better”

    I can only plead shortness of time. Lately I’ve been spending half my time searching for a parking spot in BPT Hospital parking garage and the other half in the telemetry unit with a very ill relative.

    They were simply my picks. The “why” is up for discussion.

    As for Blumenthal, I have already been heavily critical of him long before he announced his candidacy. If anyone has the power to conduct a much needed forensic audit of this Town and it’s players, it is the Attorney General’s Office. Nothing about him has changed in my opinion.

    McMahon is merely a joke pulled on us by the RNC’s desire for her checking account. “Oh? You’ll fund your own multi-million dollar campaign? Kewl! You’re our girl!”

    That leaves only one candidate, the aforementioned Blumenthal.

    “comptroller, treasurer, and secretary of state.”
    As you say, most people are unaware of these positions or even what their obligations are. These are meat & potato positions that actually have work to do. I would settle for people who have a history of showing up to work every day and the ability to read a balance sheet.

    And once again, I remind you of the topic heading: “The Least Worst”. To be honest, there is not a single candidate I would trust further than I could spit a piano.

  7. 7 jezebel282

    Portia,

    One last thing before I begin my quest for a parking space…

    Himes v. Debicella.

    I had the opportunity to watch (yes, and listen) to Debicella in a debate. It was his belief which he stated clearly and often during the debate that the problems with healthcare were that the insurance companies didn’t make enough profit. If only they could provide less benefits and charge more everything would be OK. That was his position. It was jaw-dropping.

  8. 8 1george1

    George,

    It may have missed your attention (it usually does) but the Topic headline is the “Least Worst”. Kent Miller or Miron are the absolute worst.

    Jeze,

    You have your definition of least worst… I have my definition of least worst.

    In my definition of the least worst choice is “NO OF THE ABOVE.”

    There is a spot for write in VOTES.

    If Kelly and Miron are both fronts for the same people, my choice is
    superior to yours.

    Put it another way ….

    Do you prefer your family to be murdered by theft of all your worth,
    or murdered by being jailed falsely?

  9. 9 1george1

    And once again, I remind you of the topic heading:
    “The Least Worst”.
    To be honest, there is not a single candidate I would trust
    further than I could spit a piano.

    In my definition of the least worst choice is “NO OF THE ABOVE.”

    There is a spot for write in VOTES.

  10. 10 jezebel282

    For a definitive word on Blumenthal/Miron, please click on the link below:

    Friday, October 22nd, 2010 | By Zachary Janowski
    Did Blumenthal go easy on a thieving party boss?
    By Zachary Janowski

    Bodies aren’t the only things getting buried in a Stratford cemetery. There’s a story about political favoritism by Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal that needs to be disinterred.

    Blumenthal typically pursues civil claims on behalf of consumers with aggression. However, two recent cases involving alleged misconduct in cemeteries show a contrast between Blumenthal’s usual method – total legal war – and gentler methods used against a politically connected operator known to some as the “Boss Tweed of Stratford.”

    http://www.raisinghale.com/2010/10/22/did-blumenthal-go-easy-on-a-thieving-party-boss/

  11. 11 phineast

    excellent article George—people should not forget the fact that there was apparently preferential treatment for Miron’s case -while Blumenthol may deny it, why is it he(and his office) only went after a 80+ time felon as if he were repaying an interest free loan…. )almost more importantly–where did Miron get the money to make the repayment????? )

  12. 12 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “excellent article George”

    Err….Thank you?

    The Blumenthal/Miron connection is a true low point in the blend of politics and justice in Connecticut. The outcome is repulsive for all concerned. You are correct in your assessment. The result is a 6+ year interest free loan of $80,000 which, by the way, is STILL not paid off. Never mind the suffering of dozens of grieving families.

    You have to really wonder which was worse; stealing from bereaved families or letting the thief go.

    https://stratfordcharter.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/blumenthal-for-senator/

  13. 13 1george1

    I agree with the political (not personal comments) posted above.
    I was told 6 months ago by an insider that Jim Miron was likely to run
    for political office, reach the Public Financing threash hold, and use
    PUBLIC MONEY to hire / pay DICK MIRON as a CONSULTANT, who could
    use PUBLIC ELECTION money to pay TOMB STONE DEBT with left over $.

    Jeze copied Phin’s comment attributing article to George (me), to PORTIA.

    Phin contributed Jeze’s article about Mirons/Blue menthol to me.

    However, Phin may have referred to my Letter to the Editor and related
    Public Forum / Hearing comments about Shakespeare?

    Several people told me they were impress with my comments and others
    related to Raymark.

    Several people complimented me on my comments to the FAA at RAMADA.

    I have yet to see Oct 12 public forum.
    However, I did see parts of the Town Council Meeting
    Harkins, Sue Collier, the town, police, fire, pw, boe, finances, Council,
    will all be in deep doo – doo, based on
    LOWER ECS
    LOWER STATE GRANT FUNDS to BoE = 25 % of their BUDGET
    LOWER FED GRANTS / STIMULUS
    HIGHER HEALTH CARE COST
    HIGHER PENSION COSTS
    HOME OWNERS going CHAPTER 11 / Foreclosures this WINTER
    HIGHER HEATING / ELECTRIC COSTS
    DRUNKEN SAILOR O. T. by POLICE / FIRE who put BUDGET at RISK, with a
    DEFICIT and will affect BOND RATING = RATE Town can borrow.

    I wonder who negotiated for the town related to IMBRO?

    I believe the below is or was true and/or in the ball park:

    Defined Benefit > $ 65,000 year.
    2 % C.O.L.A starting age 65
    Leave CASH OUT (sick, vacation, holiday) likely over > $ 40,000 like DeLieto
    Like many police / fire has 5 year 401. estimated town match: > $ 36,000
    Like many police / fire has ANNUITY
    Like many police / fire has TOWN PAID Healthcare with him paying 13 % of
    over $ 18,400 (tax payer paying over $ 16,000 – Imbro likely pay $ 2,400
    Like many police / fire

    Was hired @ $ 35,000 year for BoE to make sure no out of town students
    go to Stratford schools.
    > 20 hour work week, is part of the deal
    > School in regular session only about 40 weeks a year

    How many readers are paid the above and work only 800 hours a year for
    $ 35,000?

    But then about 60 % of School Teachers are at top pay average $ 92,000
    annually, working 186 days @ 5 hours a day = 930 hours, before vacation
    and sick time, deducted.

    There is a coming struggle between Public Service Employees and the Tax
    Paying Businesses and workers.

    The real enemy is the people who control
    BIG OIL
    WAR PROFITEERING
    DRUGS – Criminal Empire
    VICE
    GAMBLING
    INSIDER TRADING

    GOOGLE
    1 – Pinkerton = FBI
    2 – Cointel
    3 – INFRAGUARD
    4 – Police State
    5 – Eschelon
    6 – H.A.A.R.P.
    7 – Hypersonic subliminal messaging
    8 – Standard Oil Trust – Military Industrial complex
    9 – FRANK CHURCH Subcommittee findings
    10 – Knapp Commission (Meat Eaters v Grass Eaters

  14. 14 portia1776

    Jez,

    “Portia,

    ‘excellent article George’

    Err….Thank you?”

    Phineast meant you, and you mean Phineast. Not sure how you became George and I became Phineast!

  15. 15 portia1776

    Jez,

    “The Blumenthal/Miron connection is a true low point in the blend of politics and justice in Connecticut…. You have to really wonder which was worse; stealing from bereaved families or letting the thief go.”

    Blumenthal didn’t only let Dick Miron go, he bent over backwards in order to do so.

    This story must be hitting a raw nerve because hours after it was published, Blumenthal’s office had already sent off a ridiculous response: http://www.raisinghale.com/2010/10/22/ags-office-responds-on-mironmagner-cases/

    Jez, that response is all yours for the fisking… I’m looking forward to it!

  16. 16 portia1776

    Jimmy Miron has a video clip on the New Haven Register’s website (http://bit.ly/aa7Czb) in which he claims that he didn’t get re-elected because he made “tough choices” that upset “certain groups.”

    Again, Jez, this one is all yours!

  17. 17 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “Phineast meant you, and you mean Phineast. Not sure how you became George and I became Phineast!”
    Habit.

    “Jez, that response is all yours for the fisking… I’m looking forward to it”
    I had already posted a response directly in that site. Their editor is not as quick and it is still awaiting “moderation”. However the post doesn’t wait on this site:

    Err…”pursuing Miron aggressively when he failed to provide gravestones to at least 73 consumers.” ?

    “There were civil suits for the identical crimes by Lakeview Monument dating (at least 19 cases) dating back to 2002. It was not until April of 2008 that Blumenthal finally filed a suit. It wasn’t until Miron stole from a cop’s wife that criminal proceedings began.
    So please, enough with “aggressive pursuit” of political friends.”

    Once again we see the Magic Miron Touch. They can turn any reputation into crap.

    “he claims that he didn’t get re-elected because he made “tough choices” that upset “certain groups.” ”
    Sigh…some are just too easy. The “tough choices” he made were raising our taxes three times by a whopping 25.74% so that he can pay off his friends and relatives with our money. The groups he upset the most were voters and taxpayers.

    Politics are always open to the occasional sociopath. I suppose the reason being that most politicians generate so much spin and myth every day. It has gotten to the point (even with normal politicians) that whatever is said or written must be taken as a fabrication if not an outright lie.

  18. 18 1george1

    Jimmy Miron has a video clip on the New Haven Register’s website
    in which he claims that he didn’t get re-elected because he made
    “tough choices” that upset “certain groups.”

    TAX PAYERS
    – HOME OWNERS
    – BUSINESSES
    PYE
    SAVE STRATFORD

    Sue Collier looked absolutely frazzled on Channel 79 because of budget
    costs and revenue shortfalls.

  19. 19 1george1

    I watched Jim Miron.

    Jim’s eyes were terribly sad.

    Jim looked DOWN and to the LEFT a remarkable 26 times

    I did not count, but Jim shook his head at least 15 times.

    If you turn off the sound, A L L of those head motions were
    S H A K I N G his head as a N O !

    All of this was in 1 minute 36 seconds.

    This was the most humbled and saddest I have ever seen Jim.

    He and others have hurt many people.

    There are some people more dangerous than the Mirons.

  20. 20 portia1776

    Jez,

    “Politics are always open to the occasional sociopath. ” – Yes, this is a persistent problem — one which our Founders in their eternal wisdom sought to mitigate against by limiting the power of government, checking and balancing the powers given to government, and enshrining individual liberties as inalienable rights.

    Those who want unlimited government don’t understand what the Constitution is for. As Jefferson put it: “In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.”

  21. 21 portia1776

    George,

    “TAX PAYERS
    – HOME OWNERS
    – BUSINESSES
    PYE
    SAVE STRATFORD”

    You left off a few groups that were motivated by Miron’s “tough choices” to end his reign of arrogance, incompetence, and failure:

    Dedicated Town employees.

    Those who support our Town employees having a fear-free environment.

    Union leaders illegally targeted for persecution and firing.

    Those who don’t like our union leaders being illegally targeted for persecution and firing.

    Proponents of the Rule of Law

    Those opposed to the Rule of Miron and Buturla.

    Anyone with integrity, family values, and a modicum of intelligence.

    Those who opposes the Miron pathology: a kind of politics that is arrogantly assertive, even proud, of its own ignorance. And also demagogic.

    Jez, did I miss anyone?

  22. 22 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “Jez, did I miss anyone?”

    A few:

    Anyone at all who disagreed with him.

    Anyone who was honest.

    Anyone who told the truth.

    And absolutely anyone who said so.

  23. 23 portia1776

    China Bashing is for Losers
    by Reason’s Shikha Dalmia

    “China bashing has become a bipartisan sport this election season. But if the bashers won’t heed the economic case for not knocking down America’s second largest trading partner, they ought to consider the political one: Even if they get into office by peddling false economic theories, in order to stay there they will have to produce the right results. This protectionism never has – and never will – deliver.

    Every election needs a foreign villain, and with the public ODed on the A-rab threat, our political class has turned its sights further East. And, truth be told, China’s autocracy is not helping itself by choosing this moment to halt shipments of rare metals used in wind mills, solar panels and the like. Still, slashing trade with China will do as much to stimulate America’s moribund economy as a bitch in heat would to stimulate my neutered dog’s libido.

    ….

    California Sen. Barbara Boxer is accusing her opponent Carly Fiorina, former CEO of Hewlett Packard, of outsourcing thousands of jobs to ‘Shanghai instead of San Jose’; Senate Speaker Harry Reid is calling Sharron Angle ‘a foreign worker’s best friend’; and Richard Blumenthal, Connecticut Attorney General running for Senate, who lied about serving in Vietnam, has the temerity to attack his opponent, the former CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment, for ‘outsourcing’ American jobs because her company got toy action figures manufactured in China instead of America.

    Hostility to trade is par for the course for Democrats perennially beholden to Big Labor, but what is the excuse of Republicans – the alleged believers in free markets? In race after race, they too are hitting China to beat Democrats. In West Virginia, Spike Maynard, a Republican running for the House is airing ads against his opponent, complete with Asian music in the background, castigating him for giving stimulus money to a Texas company that happens to be buying windmills from China.

    ….

    For over a year, [the White House] has been accusing China of deliberately depressing the yuan against the dollar and threatening to brand it as a currency manipulator. Some might regard an artificially low yuan as a gift to American taxpayers given that it lowers their cost of financing America’s massive debt from China. But not this administration. It blames the low yuan for widening America’s trade deficit with China, costing export jobs.

    This claim is no doubt calculated to deflect attention from the administration’s failure to make even a small dent in America’s unemployment rate after over $1 trillion in stimulus spending. The fact of the matter is that there is no good evidence that a higher yuan necessarily equals a lower trade deficit.

    ….

    …[U]nder the intricate global division of labor that currently exists, the whole idea of “Made in China” is largely a bureaucratic fiction. Think about the IPod, for instance. It is designed in America and its 451 parts are made in dozens of different countries. But just because it is finally assembled in China, it officially counts as a Chinese import and therefore a contributor to America’s trade deficit — never mind that the Chinese add only $4 to the IPod’s $150 final value. Imposing duties on IPods to slash the deficit, then, won’t just cost Chinese jobs in Beijing assembly plants, but American jobs in Cupertino (Apple’s headquarters) computer labs.

    But if raising the barricades against Chinese products will hurt highly-paid techies in America, it will hurt working class folks even more.

    Consider the research by University of Chicago economist Christian Broda. Contrary to conventional wisdom, he found that inequality in this country has gone down – not up — thanks to trade with China. Between 1994 and 2005, he found, any rise in income inequality was offset by a decline in prices of goods consumed by poorer households. Indeed, inflation for the richest 10% of U.S. households, which tend to spend more on services, was 6% higher than the poorest 10%, who spend more of their income on household goods supplied by China. ‘In sectors where there is no Chinese presence,’ Broda has pointed out, ‘inflation has been more than 20%.’ In short, China has likely done more to help America’s poor than the stimulus, TARP or any other program invented by Uncle Sam.”

    Read the whole article here: http://blogs.forbes.com/shikhadalmia/2010/10/21/china-bashing-is-for-losers/

  24. 24 jezebel282

    Portia,

    And your point is….?

    China is a good guy? I always like to use the little things as examples of big things. Just today I needed a Bandaid. No problem. I just reached in the medicine cabinet, grabbed the box of Johnson & Johnson Bandaids and…wait, what did that say? “Made in China”?

    Bandaids? Really? We can even make bandaids here?

  25. 25 portia1776

    Jez,

    “And your point is….?” Three points, actually 1.) Free-trade is mutually beneficial. 2.) Those illiberal types who oppose free-trade in favor of protectionism are objectively pro-poverty here and around the world. 3.) Those who oppose free-trade, Democrats and Republicans, should really stop inflicting economic fallacies and xenophobic nonsense on the American people.

    As Ms. Dalmia aptly put it, protectionism “will do as much to stimulate America’s moribund economy as a bitch in heat would to stimulate my neutered dog’s libido.”

    “China is a good guy?” – Of course not. I agree with Guy Sorman, a forthright advocate for political and economic liberty, when he says “There are not 2 million Tibetans in China. There are 1 billion Tibetans in China,” referring to the atrocious violations of human rights still committed by the one-party ruling China (the CCP).

    Those who care most about the dreadful human rights situation recognize that economic freedom and free-trade are powerful weapons with which to break down political barriers of oppression. Interestingly, this administration’s stated policy on human rights in China is (as articulated by Hillary) is anti-free trade, illiberal, and unconcerned with human rights: “We know what they are going to say because I’ve had those kinds of conversations for more than a decade with Chinese leaders.”

    “Bandaids? Really? We can even make band aids here?” – Depends on what type you get. NexCare is made in America. Some Bandaids brand are made in Brazil. Foreign made band aids, like cars, computers, and cloths, don’t bite, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

  26. 26 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “1.) Free-trade is mutually beneficial.”
    Please explain how beneficial it is to those Johnson & Johnson employees that no longer make bandaids. Maybe how beneficial it is to taxpayers who now have to subsidize their unemployment compensation? Since they can no longer afford their COBRA payments how beneficial is it when they have to go to the ER? Or even how beneficial it is to consumers who might save 5 or 6 cents on a box of Bandaids.

    “2.) Those illiberal types who oppose free-trade in favor of protectionism are objectively pro-poverty here and around the world.”
    I always thought that free trade was supposed to be free both ways. What is our current trade deficit with China? Japan? Malaysia? Korea? Are we running a surplus with anyone?

    “3.) Those who oppose free-trade, Democrats and Republicans, should really stop inflicting economic fallacies and xenophobic nonsense on the American people.”
    Tell us where the “free-trade” actually exists. If the U.S. Government artificially sets the Dollar at 3 Euros and keeps it there no matter what, you can bet our exports to the EU will go up. Mostly at the cost of EU jobs unless China lowers the Yuan even further.

    In case you may not have noticed, the current unemployment rate is 9.6% “officially”. Unofficially it is more like 17% and has been so for two years. Somehow I keep missing the connection between exploiting cheap labor and the benefit of that to American workers. I do understand it’s impact on EBIDTA and the ROI to shareholders, but not its benefit to anyone else.

    Be that as it may, what I find truly disappointing is any lack of mention of this economy with less than two weeks until the mid-term elections. You have Tea Party candidates who have never read the Bill of Rights, GOP candidates who only want to return to the bad old days of crony capitalism and tax cuts for the wealthy and Democrats who don’t have a clue what they want.

    What voters want is simple: JOBS and a future.

  27. 27 sudds

    People… people… people!!

    WTF??? Now we’re talking about China??? I think that we MIGHT be getting a LITTLE off topic here!!!

    Let’s bottom line it…

    VOTE FOR LAURA HOYDICK!!

    (and after that who cares who anyone else votes for… our options suck… I want a do-over!!!)

  28. 28 1george1

    From PORTIA
    1.) Free-trade is mutually beneficial.

    2.) Those illiberal types who oppose free-trade in favor of protectionism
    are objectively pro-poverty here and around the world.

    3.) Those who oppose free-trade, Democrats and Republicans, should
    really stop inflicting economic fallacies and xenophobic nonsense on
    the American people.

    1.) Free-trade is mutually beneficial.

    FREE TRADE CAN BE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL WHEN CARRIED OUT LIKE
    THE MARSHALL PLAN, BUT WITHOUT THE WARS for
    A) GALVANIZATION
    B) STIMULUS
    C) JUSTIFICATION

    HOWEVER, WHEN BILLIONS / TRILLIONS of DOLLARS are SITTING in the
    TREASURIES of PETRO-DICTATORS + NARCO DICTATORS + SLAVE DICTATORS
    + WAR PROFITEER DICTATORS and those PUPPET DICTATORS are CAUSAL
    to USA people and WORLD PEOPLE DYING or SUFFERING from:
    A) WARS
    B) CRIME
    C) DRUG ABUSE of ALL FORMS
    D) WEALTH LOSS – TRANSFERRED from LOST JOBS / HIGH OIL/GAS/COAL
    TAX – and LOWER CONSUMER SPENDING.

    How is that solely and exclusively beneficial?

    2.) Those illiberal types who oppose free-trade in favor of protectionism
    are objectively pro-poverty here and around the world.

    PORTIA, after BEATING UP LIBERALS, YOU ARE NOW against ILLIBERALS?

    Is there a difference between FREE TRADE and FAIR TRADE?

    Is there a difference between PROTECTIONISM and NOT TRANSFERRING
    MANY USA INDUSTRIES, JOBS, and WEALTH to DICTATORS coffers and
    helping perpetuate SUBJECTS coffins?

    I praise “PARTS” of the MARSHALL PLAN and TRILATERAL COMMISSION:
    1 – Reshaped and rebuilt USA + W EUROPE + PACIFIC RIM + E EUROPE +
    RUSSIA + CHINA + BRAZIL + INDIA + parts of MID EAST / 2nd + 3rd WORLD.

    2 – Improved Quality of Life, expectations, and Health for most in those
    general populations

    3 – Allowed people like Norman Bourlag to exponentially benefit people

    3.) Those who oppose free-trade, Democrats and Republicans, should
    really stop inflicting economic fallacies and xenophobic nonsense on
    the American people.

    I would agree with:
    Democrats and Republicans, should really stop inflicting economic
    fallacies and xenophobic nonsense on the American people.

    A) In late 1980s, MILTON FRIEDMAN was quoted in FORBES MAG

    “There is NO T R A D E – D E F I C I T.”
    Exports are counted at (lower) wholesale prices.
    Imports are counted as (higher) retail prices.
    If they were counted the same way, the trade is about balanced.

    B) WILLIAM F BUCKLEY said “D E F I C I T – S P E N D I N G is GOOD.”

    “During Queen Victoria’s reign the debt of the British Empire was
    500 % of the GEP. (Gross Empire’s Product.)
    Basis of the theory was to get wealth into the hands of more people,
    instead of hoarding in a treasury.

    C) The USA + BRITAIN + FRANCE divided GERMANY into 4 parts with
    RUSSIA getting the POLAND – PRUSSIA part of GERMANY.
    The USA controlled JAPAN + Pacific RIM.

    Result: The Marshall Plan occupied W. Europe and JAPAN which prospered
    with GERMANY + JAPAN growing to # 2 + # 3 World Economies.

    Under Trilateral Commission, before and after the end of the COLD WAR,
    CHINA was USED for GEO POLITICAL PURPOSES to PRESSURE RUSSIA and
    ASIA into an example of “COMMAND CAPITALISM.*” (USA* 1947-1960)

    JAPAN economy reduced growth, but still has NORTH KOREA as SWORD
    of DAMACLES, while CHINA became ECONOMIC SUPER POWER.

    > NIXON opened CHINA

    > WATERGATE was PRETEXT

    > Unelected ROCKEFELLER VP – FORD Pres / TRILATERAL Chief ROCKEFELLER
    showed RUSSIA + CHINA + DICTATORS they could still control everything
    without endanger of losing POWER.

    COLD WAR ENDED
    E. EUROPE prospered at cost to W. EUROPE / USA.
    CHINA + INDIA + RUSSIA + ISRAEL + ARAB petrodictators are all counter
    points to ISLAM, a convenient enemy, primed to need improved tech,
    to beable to fight UNHOLY WAR, which would bring the MASSES into
    the 21st CENTURY.
    FACT: WARS galvanize countries’ peoples and religion peoples to study
    their enemy and need to overcome superior weapons, which means to
    over come superior technology.

    It is alien to common people that the USA Intelligence community would
    turn on former ALLIES in AFGHANISTAN Mujahadeen and turn them to
    AL QAEDA – so they would have excuses to KILL those who KILLED Russians
    during REAGAN Years, and use WAR as TAKING SADDAM OIL off SPOT
    MARKETS to INCREASE PETRO Pricing which

    1 – Increased SOVIET stability, based on OIL / Natural GAS exports
    (W. Europe was already paying a multiple of what americans pay for Petro,
    and was used for social policy – like UI over charging pays for green tech)

    2 – Increased O.P.E.C. coffers, wallowing for more Weapons SALES or to be
    used for the benefit of their peoples.

    3 – Increased problems for MASSES of the WORKING AMERICANS whom they
    willfully drugged and perpetuated a permanent underclass.

    4 – There comes a CRITICAL MASS for CULTURAL and INFRASTRUCTURAL CHANGES.

    > People traveling to the 2nd + 3rd World indicate older technologies were
    never implemented due to superior technologies allowing leap frogging to
    make some communications, transportation and other INFRASTRUCTURES
    superior to the USA.
    > PORTIA, most of the people on the blog and most people in the USA are
    still thinking in terms of fighting the COLD WAR and similar solutions.
    > Democrats and Republicans are much like the Mafia, in that the people
    who run them are NOT capable of imagining things beneficial to the BIG
    PICTURE, whereas is the AMERICAN PEOPLE were allowed to PROSPER,
    the DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, and MAFIA could STEAL M O R E !!
    > Instead Executive, Legislative, Judicial, of all three levels of government
    and all of the political Committees, Donators, and ALLIES are LOW LIFE
    WHORES, LIARS, THEIVES, and MURDERERS, who are TRAITORS to the USA
    and whatever RELIGION they and their families were raised!

    Using IRAQ (RA IQ) and IRAN (non Arabs) are geo political strategic and
    tactical countries for world peace pressure using WAR as the ways the
    AMERICAN / ANGLO / FRANCO empirics has worked.
    > Allow “terrorism” attacks on
    W O R L D – T R A D E Center
    P E N T A G O N
    C. I. A. SHOOTING outside GATE
    SPAIN SUBWAY
    JAPAN SUBWAY
    ENGLAND
    FRANCE

    Arab proverbs, used by ANGLO-AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE:

    “Terrorism is not about how many you kill.”
    “Terrorism is about how many you terrorize.”

    “The enemy of my enemy, is my ally.”

    USING MARXIST – LENIN strategy and Judeo / Catholic / Christian
    cultural basis, the royal and imperial leaders, can be given everything
    they want, in order to create a WORLD PLUTOCRACY.

    Once a PLUTOCRACY consolidates POWER and eliminated competition,
    then they concentrate on improving things for the people who are
    their immediate support (judges / lawyers / teachers / police / fire /
    Fed / states / local / donators / subcontractors / corp / private)

    Then they can either eliminate everyone else or build everyone else.

    I favor the latter choice.

    Related to POWER – Nature abhors a vacuum

  29. 29 portia1776

    Sudds,

    “VOTE FOR LAURA HOYDICK!!” – Agreed.

  30. 30 portia1776

    George,

    “PORTIA, after BEATING UP LIBERALS, YOU ARE NOW against ILLIBERALS?” – What? I AM A (CLASSICAL) LIBERAL. “Liberal” comes from the Latin for “freedom.” Those who often call themselves “liberal” in this country usually mean to say, as Hillary correctly pointed out, “Progressive.” Their incorrect usage is not my problem. Trade liberalization, political liberalization, liberal political parties in many countries around the world all refer to advocates of free-market capitalism and constitutionally limited government. Those who oppose free-market capitalism and constitutionally limited government (among other things) are called illiberal. Why do you persist in making a claim that has thrice been refuted?

    “Is there a difference between FREE TRADE and FAIR TRADE?” – Free trade is fair, in the true sense of the word. Free trade is voluntary exchanges between individuals, who only engage in commerce because they believe it to be in their personal self-interest to do so. If coercion of any sort is involved, the trade ceases to be free. So-called “fair” trade is predicated on the idea that individuals, particularly in developing countries, should receive more than the prevailing cost for their goods and services. If you freely choose to purchase “fair” trade products, which tend to be more expensive, be my guest. Where we run into problems is when “fair” trade advocates want to use government coercion to hinder free trade, and make “fair” trade the only option.

    “Is there a difference between PROTECTIONISM and NOT TRANSFERRING MANY USA INDUSTRIES, JOBS, and WEALTH to DICTATORS coffers and helping perpetuate SUBJECTS coffins?” – I don’t follow this completely, but refer you to these letters to the editor dealing with a similar misunderstanding of free trade (http://cafehayek.com/2010/10/the-choice.html) and the ill-effects of protectionism (http://cafehayek.com/2010/10/the-choking-yolk-of-protectionism.html):

    ” Rejecting Jeff Jacoby’s argument for free trade, John Schreiber writes ‘Does he [Jacoby] want his kids to be greeters at Wal-Mart selling cheap Chinese goods or to be engineers or scientists designing a new product? That choice is easy for me’ (Letters, Oct. 12).

    Mr. Schreiber has matters backwards. By buying products such as textiles, footwear, and luggage from China and other foreign countries, workers and resources in America are freed to work in fields such as bioengineering and artificial intelligence.

    If we prevent the importation of ‘cheap Chinese goods,’ we’d thereby promote in America industries that produce – what? – cheap American goods. How bleak. We Americans would pay higher prices for cheap goods and, more importantly, be denied many of the cutting-edge and challenging career opportunities that Mr. Schreiber and I (and, I’m sure, Mr. Jacoby) want for our children.

    Sincerely,
    Donald J. Boudreaux”

    ” Jim Powell offers a long list of some of the many trade-destroying retaliatory tariffs that foreign governments imposed on their citizens in response to Uncle Sam’s 1930 Smoot-Hawley tariff (‘The tempting path of protectionism,’ Oct. 24). I offer here yet another candidate for that list: Canada’s tariff on American eggs.

    Harvard government professor Jeffry Frieden explains that ‘Smoot-Hawley raised the tariff on egg imports into the U.S. from eight cents to ten cents per dozen. This higher tariff caused egg imports from Canada to fall by 40 percent. In response, Canadian authorities increased the tariff on U.S. eggs exported to Canada; this tariff went from three cents per dozen to ten cents per dozen. The result was that American egg exports to Canada fell by 98 percent – from 11 million annually just before Smoot-Hawley to a mere 200,000.’*

    That worked well.

    Sincerely,
    Donald J. Boudreaux

    * Jeffry A. Frieden, Global Capitalism (New York: W.W. Norton, 2006), p. 255.”

  31. 31 1george1

    FROM PORTIA:

    You left off a few groups that were motivated by Miron’s “tough choices”
    to end his reign of arrogance, incompetence, and failure:

    Dedicated Town employees.
    Those who support our Town employees having a fear-free environment.
    Union leaders illegally targeted for persecution and firing.
    Those who don’t like our union leaders being illegally targeted for
    persecution and firing.
    Proponents of the Rule of Law
    Those opposed to the Rule of Miron and Buturla.
    Anyone with integrity, family values, and a modicum of intelligence.
    Those who opposes the Miron pathology: a kind of politics that is arrogantly assertive, even proud, of its own ignorance. And also demagogic.
    Jez, did I miss anyone?

    FROM GEORGE
    – I have never been a fan of the MIRONS.
    – Stratford has been messed up before MIRON / BURTURLA and from
    others, besides them.
    – The MIRONS made it more OBVIOUS and more ODIOUS!

    FROM PORTIA

    What? I AM A (CLASSICAL) LIBERAL. “Liberal” comes from the Latin
    for “freedom.” Those who often call themselves “liberal” in this
    country usually mean to say, as Hillary correctly pointed out,
    “Progressive.” Their incorrect usage is not my problem.
    Trade liberalization, political liberalization, liberal political parties
    in many countries around the world all refer to advocates of
    free-market capitalism and constitutionally limited government.

    FROM GEORGE:
    There are/were also DICTATORSHIPS which called themselves
    PEOPLES REPUBLICS.
    There were also HOLY ROMAN EMPIRES which were NOT
    HOLY, nor ROMAN.
    There are people who call themselves DEMOCRATS who want no
    PART of ONE PERSON = ONE VOTE, but work to reduce VOTES.
    There are people who call themselves REPUBLICAN who want no
    PART of a REPUBLIC of equal opportunity as the FEDERALIST PAPERS
    NOTES: LAWS are WRItTEN for the FEW, NOT for the MANY.

    HISTORY is written by the WINNERS, or at least by the people who
    are doing the writing and defining.

    The ONLY time I heard my grandfather SWEAR was whan he spoke
    about ONE WORLDERS being “NO F***ING GOOD.”

    There are good and bad in e v e r y t h i n g and in e v e r y o n e.

    FROM PORTIA
    Those who oppose free-market capitalism and constitutionally
    limited government (among other things) are called illiberal.

    FROM GEORGE:
    PORTIA clarifies what or how he/she defines illiberal.
    It is not necessarily how Webster, nor Chris, nor Jeze, nor I might
    define certain perspectives.

    FROM PORTIA:
    Why do you persist in making a claim that has thrice been refuted?

    FROM GEORGE
    The COCK CROWED TWICE and CHRIST was REFUTED THRICE!
    – Betrayal is something difficult to forget. Blog posts, that are VERY,
    LONG and easy to overlook, may not have been noted?
    – Just because you claim something is refuted, does not make it so.

    FROM POSTIA
    “Is there a difference between FREE TRADE and FAIR TRADE?”
    – Free trade is fair, in the true sense of the word.
    Free trade is voluntary exchanges between individuals, who only
    engage in commerce because they believe it to be in their personal
    self-interest to do so.

    FROM GEORGE:
    This matches my post about WIN – WIN TRADE.
    NO ARGUMENT

    FROM PORTIA:
    If coercion of any sort is involved, the trade ceases to be free.

    FROM GEORGE:
    AGREED

    FROM PORTIA:
    So-called “fair” trade is predicated on the idea that individuals,
    particularly in developing countries, should receive more than the
    prevailing cost for their goods and services.

    FROM GEORGE:
    AGREED

    FROM PORTIA:
    If you freely choose to purchase “fair” trade products, which tend
    to be more expensive, be my guest.

    FROM GEORGE:
    Hypothetically – WHAT IF –
    1 – Foreign national countries subsidize manufacturing and other costs?

    2 – Domestic policy unfairly taxes Domestic OEM?

    3 – Domestic internationals circumvent costs by off shoring jobs and money
    gaining competative unfair advantage?

    During the REAGAN years I bought books from the American Enterprise
    Institute to understand BORK PORK?

    Even then BIG BOX were a danger to local retail
    HOME DEPOT destroyed LOVELL and hurts CLOUGH’S
    STOP N SHOP, BIG Y, SHOP RITE/SHAWS, helped eliminate (U. S. # 1 meat
    market – drawing mental blank – near cutrifellows?)

    Money spent at regional – national – international moves out of town and
    depresses the local economy, much in the same way GAMBLING CASINO
    and DRUG CARTELS hog CASH.
    – Besides being bad for their sucker customers, trickle effect is pernicious
    for money supply velosity multiplier, in the direct area.
    – This is a driect counterpoint to economic engine of command economy!

  32. 32 portia1776

    George,

    Quick fact-check courtesy of Webster’s dictionary:

    Liberal “6 a : of, favoring, or based upon the principles of liberalism b capitalized : of or constituting a political party advocating or associated with the principles of political liberalism; especially : of or constituting a political party in the United Kingdom associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms designed to secure these objectives.”

    Liberalism “2 b : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard”

    (Webster’s 2c is the corrupted leftish definition, fyi).

    Personally, as stated, I like the Mark Twain appreciation definition:

    “Twain was born as Samuel Langhorne Clemens in 1835, when the meaning of liberalism was less ambiguous. To be liberal was to favor free enterprise and property rights, oppose slavery, reject old-world caste systems, loathe war, be generally disposed toward free trade and cosmopolitanism, favor the social advance of women, favor technological progress — and to possess a grave skepticism toward government management of anything.

    The tradition of thought extends from Enlightenment thinkers like Jefferson through 20th-century Misesians and Hayekians. This outlook on the world might be nearly extinguished from politics today (two flavors of statism), but it was the one embraced by Clemens (http://mises.org/daily/4060).”

    I’ll try to come back for the rest later or tomorrow.

  33. 33 1george1

    I accept that most people will not agree with many of my perspectives.

    I try not to put words in peoples mouths, nor try to put my definitions
    in their writing.

    I also try to refrain from insulting, unless insulted.

    Lastly I try to keep debates to be political and/or public interest, and
    not of personal nature.

    I enjoy reading Portia, Chris, Phin, Mayor 2013, Sudds, and Jeze, as I enjoy
    a good debate.

    It is too infrequent that I read from Phyllis and Star.

    Mike R, Doug O’Meara, Kane, Cyclops, Gavin, Jon, Adam Bauer, and others
    tend to be 1 or 2 topic, pick their spot issues, which is an observation and
    not to be construed as an insult, nor criticism.

    It is too bad, Laura Dob…, Dave Mooney, Fahan, On Target, FOS, Miron,
    and others have not posted, as I like contrary opinions.

    Chris has done the best job in spotting out right errors of fact, when I
    made 2 dumb sports related errors.

  34. 34 portia1776

    George,

    I’m back for at least your interesting hypotheticals.

    “Hypothetically – WHAT IF –
    1 – Foreign national countries subsidize manufacturing and other costs?” – What they are actually subsidizing are cheaper products and a cleaner environment for Americans. The steel industry is the classic example. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0pl_FXt0eM

    “2 – Domestic policy unfairly taxes Domestic OEM?” – I’m opposed to onerous taxes and regulations that put American entrepreneurs and workers at a competitive disadvantage.

    “3 – Domestic internationals circumvent costs by off shoring jobs and money
    gaining competative unfair advantage?” – John Kerry parked his yacht in RI rather than MA so as to avoid onerous taxation. What makes you think businesses from doing the same if they are able to? There is a very simple remedy to the problem of businesses and entrepreneurs from leaving our country: remove the government imposed impetus for them to do so.

    To provide but one example:

    Maryland project that it would “collect $106 million by raising its income tax rate on millionaire households to 6.25% from 4.75%. In cities like Baltimore and Bethesda, which apply add-on income taxes, the top tax rate with the surcharge now reaches as high as 9.3%—fifth highest in the nation….

    Well, the state comptroller’s office now has the final tax return data for 2008, the first year that the higher tax rates applied. The number of millionaire tax returns fell sharply to 5,529 from 7,898 in 2007, a 30% tumble. The taxes paid by rich filers fell by 22%, and instead of their payments increasing by $106 million, they fell by some $257 million.

    Yes, a big part of that decline results from the recession that eroded incomes, especially from capital gains. But there is also little doubt that some rich people moved out or filed their taxes in other states with lower burdens. One-in-eight millionaires who filed a Maryland tax return in 2007 filed no return in 2008. Some died, but the others presumably changed their state of residence. (Hint to the class warfare crowd: A lot of rich people have two homes.) (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703976804575114241782001262.html?mod=djemEditorialPage_h).”

    “BORK PORK” – Not sure what this means…

    “Even then BIG BOX were a danger to local retail” – Only if consumers freely choose the big box over the local retailer. There are many local retailers in Stratford – Rotary and Clough’s come to mind – that continue to provide high quality service/products at competitive prices.

    “Money spent at regional – national – international moves out of town and
    depresses the local economy” – No, this is a thoroughly dis proven fallacy.

    To quote economist Robert L. Sexton:

    “A common myth is that it’s better for Americans to spend their money at home than abroad. The best way to expose the fallacy in this argument it to take it to its logical extreme. If it’s better for me to spend my money here than abroad, then it’s even better to buy in Texas than in New York, better yet in Dallas than in Houston… in my own neighborhood… within my own family… to consume only what I can produce. Alone and poor.”

  35. 35 1george1

    “Hypothetically – WHAT IF –
    1 – Foreign national countries subsidize manufacturing and other costs?”

    CHECK

    “2 – Domestic policy unfairly taxes Domestic OEM?”

    CHECK

    “3 – Domestic internationals circumvent costs by off shoring jobs and
    money gaining competative unfair advantage?”

    Instead of mindlessly picking a Skull & Bones DEMONcrat, here’s a proposal
    why not cite B O T H Democrats and Republicans, when criticizing?

    “BORK PORK” – Robert Bork of think tank American Enterprise Institute
    and others have long identified danger to the average americans and
    PORK to the LEGISLATIVE, EXECUTIVE, and JUDICIAL allies.

    Robert L. Sexton:

    I disagree with Sexton. You can hire professional experts to testify the
    moon is made of green cheese or have 10,000 ex sailors testify GHW BUSH
    was picked up in the middle of the PACIFIC by their 100 man SUB.

    Or that skilled yachtsman JFK allowed his speedy PT BOAT to be run over
    by a SLOWER Japanese DESTROYER in the middle of the PACIFIC.

    Take this thought to an extreme, where the FED does not adjust MONEY
    SUPPLY to each of the 12 FEDERAL RESERVE DISTRICTS

    During the REAGAN years there were SPOT RECESSIONS popping up all
    across the USA, because CASH was DRYING UP and concentrating in the
    different areas. They found OVERFLOWING CASH in FL + CA.

    About 96 % of all $ 100 bills had COCAINE on them, and it would be fitting
    to have RON REAGAN’S picture on them.

    The DOLLAR was partially replaced by the EURO and GOLD as currency of
    choice by foreign powers.
    Some gets spent back in the USA.
    Much is still used and banked over seas.

    Whether CAPITAL is taken out of the area to foreign companies or national
    /international HQ, it affects FEDERAL RESERVE DICTRICT capital, that unless
    replaced, can not have the M1, M2, M3, velosity and multiplier effect to
    benefit local economies.

    If Money is to the Economy, what Blood is the body, depleting Money or
    Blood or causing concentrations of either, where it is not flowing through
    the corporal entity can not be healthy for the entity.

    Increased activity causes increased blood flow.
    decrease activity …

  36. 36 jezebel282

    Update:

    Two items. One; many have asked about our own former Town Clerk, Pat Ulatowski. The good news is that she’s alive and well and trying to keep Monroe honest.
    Two; Sleaze doesn’t happen in Stratford alone.

    Democrats Take the Fight to Hovey’s House

    Is her basement finished or unfinished?
    By Bill Bittar

    Less than a week before Election Day, an incumbent Monroe state representative is defending herself against claims that she failed to get proper approvals for work done on her home.

    Town building officials confirmed with Patch that an anonymous caller this week alleged that state Rep. DebraLee Hovey (R-112th) sectioned a finished basement into three rooms and added a bathroom, and did so without permits or a new assessment.

    Hovey said it’s an unfinished basement.

    The field card for Hovey’s one-story ranch at 296 Fan Hill Road says the house has two bedrooms and one bathroom.

    Hovey is being challenged by a Democrat, Town Councilwoman Michele Mount, whose party jumped on the anonymous complaint, demanding an inspection of the house.

    Patch was informed about the complaint from the anonymous caller, who has since revealed her identity to the editor but not for publication, and the Mount campaign.

    A Democratic Town Committee press release issued Tuesday claims the Assessor’s Office sent Hovey a letter requesting a site inspection. Hovey said she did not receive anything from the town.

    “I cannot verify or deny your caller’s complaint concerning a specific property,” Assessor Elizabeth Duffy said in an e-mail Wednesday. “Complaints are not subject to be disclosed to the public.”

    When asked about the claims, Hovey said she and her husband, Paul Balsano, bought their one-story ranch nine years ago.

    The basement of Hovey and Balsano’s home needed repairs when the couple bought it, according to Hovey.

    “The day we closed, the furnace died,” she said. “It had water problems in the basement, which had a washing machine, a dryer and a rickety shower. I think we were just desparate to be in Monroe because Paul’s children lived there.”

    Everything was corroded from water in the basement, which had a mold problem, Hovey said.

    A rubberized seal was applied to the cinderblock walls before it was painted, she said, adding the concrete floor was painted gray and the walls white.

    “We replaced the shower,” she said. “You can barely stand in it.”

    Earlier in the day Tuesday, Hovey said a toilet was also installed. She compared the shower to an outdoor one.

    Balsano made structural improvements and took out building permits in 2004 to build a garage with a breezeway, according to town Building Department records.

    Republicans called the new allegations baseless.

    “They don’t have any proof,” said Elizabeth Edgerton, Republican Town Committee chairwoman. “This stuff is utter nonsense and a desperate move by desperate people.”

    DTC Chairwoman Patty Ulatowski said all Hovey has to do is “open up her doors.”

    “If she doesn’t open her doors it’s a big cover up,” Ulatowski said.

    On Wednesday, Mount said she was first informed about the complaint by the neighbor, adding whether it was six months, a year or a week before the election it would be no different.

    “If I were Ms. Hovey, I would let people in my house and get this resolved now, so this isn’t hanging over the election,” Mount said. “The people of the 112th deserve to be fully informed when they go to the polls. Elected officials are not above the law.”

    Hovey defeated Mount two years ago. The rematch will be decided on Election Day, Tuesday, Nov. 2.

    “People know DebraLee. They love DebraLee,” said JP Sredzinski, co-campaign manager for the Hovey campaign. “The only thing they can do is tear down her character.”

    Chief Building Official James Sandor said there is nothing he can do at this point.

    “I can’t go to a judge and request a search warrant based upon a neighbor’s anonymous call,” he told Patch. “What I can attest to is what has been permitted. If I see something going on with trucks and siding being ripped off, I have probable cause.”

    Ulatowski said the anonymous complaint alleges basement work was done approximately five years ago.

    “Hovey’s alleged failure to pay her fair share of property taxes is a taxpayer issue,” Ulatowski said. “Failure to pay taxes is illegal and affects every taxpayer regardless of party affiliation. Every taxpayer has a right to know whether the sitting representative violated the law by failing to report and pay her property taxes and failed to uphold her Oath of Office.”

    Ulatowski called upon First Selectman Steve Vavrek, a Republican, to ensure that an investigation is done promptly.

    “This issue can be quickly put to rest by allowing a physical inspection of her property prior to this election,” she said.

    Vavrek released a statement late Tuesday afternoon.

    “To my knowledge, there has been no written formal complaint filed in regard to the property on Fan Hill Road as stated by the DTC chairman and their executive board,” he wrote. “I have reached out to all Town Hall departments concerned (Assessor, Building Department and Zoning Enforcement Officer) and have nothing to give credence to this complaint. We will finalize this investigation promptly either way.”

    Duffy said all complaints are investigated thoroughly. “Building is contacted to verify all permits are accounted for and a standard request for inspection and/or personal property declaration is sent to the property owner,” she said.

    “Property records and inspection information is available to the public,” Duffy said. “Most owners allow the inspection, but if the owner does not comply, the improvement is estimated and added to one or more Grand Lists. It is the right of the property owner to refuse inspection. The owner receives a notice of assessment change and the appeal process to the Board of Assessment Appeals.”

    Hovey said town inspectors had to go into her basement to reach the power switches while looking at the garage and breezeway project, adding there were no issues then.

    “It’s incumbent upon the town to evaluate my property and we pay the taxes levied by the town,” Hovey said.

    Parting shots

    The DTC’s press release says it has been alleged that several fund-raisers were held in Hovey’s basement. But Hovey says she holds all major get-togethers on her upper level, sending her dogs to the basement, so they don’t jump on the guests.

    “I’ve known DebraLee for 10 years and have never been in her basement,” said Edgerton.

    “I can attest to the fact that I had to wait in line at DebraLee’s house to use the bathroom,” Sredzinski said. “I wished she had another one I could have used.”

    Edgerton criticized Ulatowski for allegedly blowing an anonymous, unverified complaint out of proportion and using it for Mount’s political advantage.

    “Since my counterpart has been named chair of her party, she has taken things down to the gutter,” Edgerton said.

    Town Councilwoman Dee Dee Martin, a Democrat, says her party was made aware of the complaint through an anonymous source. “We didn’t dig for this,” she said. “If this is true, let’s open it up. If it’s not true, we’ll move on.”

    “She has an obligation to show this is not true,” Ulatowski said of Hovey. “You can bet damn well if this was Michele Mount, they would be at her door.”

    In response to Republicans’ criticism of her campaign tactics, Ulatowski said, “They ought to know what it’s like. They’ve got a sucker punch down to a T.”

  37. 37 1cyclops

    Damn – that woman was always full of fight! I am so pleased she is still fighting for the underdog and working to keep us all honest. I know of few Monroe people and I’ll be sending this out. Thank you Jezebel for tracking her down.

  38. 38 jezebel282

    Cyclops,

    Welcome back.

    The nice thing about Ms. Ulatowski is that when she pops up it’s always good news.

  39. 39 1george1

    Welcome back Cyclops,

    I respected Patty U.
    I NEVER had issues with INFORMATION requested.

    I raise pension issues, but that is money thrown at people.
    The entire Stratford political / government matrix is corrupt.
    Not much different than many other places.
    People take the money and benefits, keeping their mouths shut.

    I prefer Patty’s transparency and even Norko’s transparency
    to Susan Pawluk, Susan Collier, and related just to F. O. I.,
    Tim Bishop.

    Jeze will gag on this … but Miron was more communicative and
    transparent (except Esq. Burturla) then Harkins / Collier / Bishop.

  40. 40 phineast

    George- Jimbo may have been more communicative but he rarely if ever told the truth. I will take silence over the lies hands down, and if the people in Monroe are smart they will just say no to Jimbo.

  41. 41 jezebel282

    George,

    “Jeze will gag on this … but Miron was more communicative and
    transparent (except Esq. Burturla)”

    Gag? You want a gag? How about the years 2005-2009? Now there is one helluva joke.

    Even funnier is Miron thinking anyone in Stratford would believe anything he said. Ever.

    Even his last little dirty mailing about Kelly. Almost all the information in it was right there on Kelly’s website. Kind of a lousy place to keep a “secret”, huh?

    As for the money Miron claimed Kelly got from the Town, he should know best. Miron’s name was on every check.

  42. 42 1george1

    I went on Jimmy’s website and posted that he tore up Kelly in the
    channel 12 debate, found on the website.

    Kelly was forced to conceed in lawyer speak that:
    1 – He never held bipartisan office.
    2 – His firms made the big money, it was not paid directly to him.

    (Jeze, If they are on the Kelly website, and I expect they are, then Kelly
    and his supporters are guilty of stupidity of spinning facts. Unfortunately
    Miron absolutely killed Kelly, when Kelly had sooooo much to work with
    to nail Jimmy. The debate should have been one sided.
    However, Kelly’s hands are filled with mud, blood, and the same fesces!)

    I added that both Kelly and he lied, with multiple ommissions.

    I added I would be willing to debate either, any time.

    I do not disagree with Phin or Jeze related to dishonesty.
    I do disagree that Jimmy was far more available than Harkins.
    Jimmy was great at stealing ideas (plagarism) and taking credit.
    Or worse, spinning things to benefit the “party.”
    But, I wonder who he learned that from?

    My point was / is Kelly & Miron both profit from Stratford’s losses.
    Boss Tweedle dumb and dumber?

    Actually it is political intelligent design GRAFT ARTS! 😦

    If Sylvia watched the debates from heaven, she would have noted that
    after Kevin talked about his family and community participation, Jimmy
    also noted his family.
    Except Jimmy did NOT mention EITHER PARENT.
    Jimmy mentioned sibling and grandparents, and maybe a PET.
    No mention of mother or father, by name or title.

    I could understand not mentioning his adoptive father (dick miron)
    But not mentioning or referencing his mom or blood father?
    That is s a d !
    Sad for Jimmy.
    sad for each of them.

  43. 43 jezebel282

    George,

    Once again, Heather left this off of Miron’s website:

    “Sociopaths are very egocentric individuals that lack a sense of personal responsibility and morality. They may be impulsive, manipulative, reckless, quarrelsome, and consistent liars. Sociopaths are usually unable to sustain relationships and have a total lack of remorse for their actions. The sociopath may also be very prone to aggressive, hostile, and sometimes violent behaviour. This aggression may or may not lead to criminal behaviour and often takes the form of domestic violence. Along with these other actions, sociopaths often engage in self-destructive behaviour such as alcoholism or addiction to drugs. This, of course, usually worsens many aspects of the sociopathic behaviour. Despite these previous symptoms, the sociopath may be an excellent actor, always appearing charming, calm, and collected. They usually have a normal or above normal intelligence level and good verbal fluency. It is these qualities that sometimes place the sociopath in leadership positions within their social groups and often make it hard to spot their “black side”.”
    http://www.sociopathic.net/research/thesociopath.htm

    Pretty accurate, huh?

  44. 44 portia1776

    We need to joint Jez in supporting Caz Mizera! While I have a few quibbles, his platform for state government is the best I’ve seen:

    “COMMON SENSE COMMITMENT

    Spend No More Than You Make
    – Reduce spending to what we reasonably anticipate in revenue…with no new taxes. We should abide by the constitutional spending cap.

    Borrow Only What You Can Afford To Pay Back
    – Borrowing should be restricted for public works projects, including school construction, roads and rails, serving the greater public good and creating jobs for our workers. We should eliminate earmarks, funding all projects by competitive grant to be awarded based upon measured return on investment — job creation and economic development.

    If It’s Not Broken, Don’t Fix It. But If It’s Not Working, Get Rid Of It
    – All State Government programs must be results-based with a 2-year period of review. If it is not achieving stated results, the program is eliminated. If it’s working, it continues.

    The More Government Tries To Do, The Less It Does Well
    – Focus on core government functions: Public safety, education, transportation, and public health. We should strive for excellence in each of these areas of state government, and move to privatize non-core functions.

    All The Government We Need, But Only The Government We Need
    – Consolidate government services to eliminate duplication, excess and waste. We must stop over-regulation…government should not stifle the individualism of Connecticut residents (http://caz2010.com/ ).”

  45. 45 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “Joint Jez?”
    I’m not sure I like the sound of that….

    Caz does have a decent platform. If anyone can believe a platform or a campaign promise.

    Sadly, Terry Backer has so many ties to Miron and the other DTC Mironistas he has become toxic.

  46. 46 portia1776

    Jez,

    Sorry for the errant “t,” especially least it give the wrong impression of opponents of prohibition. I despise all stimulants, depressants, and soda.

    Interesting George Will piece on Dick Blumenthal. Read it in the WaPo:

    “[Blumenthal’s] penchant for (to be polite) tactical imprecision goes beyond his various falsehoods – he says he ‘misspoke’ every time – about serving in Vietnam.

    He says he served on ‘active duty’ in the Marine Reserve. That is true only if training is counted. He says he joined in 1970 even though the draft lottery gave him a high number that made him unlikely to be conscripted. His number, however, was 152, and men with numbers up to 195 were vulnerable to induction. In 2002, he said he enlisted because he had a ‘pretty low draft number.’

    On MSNBC he intimated that he would not take ‘special interest’ or PAC money, promising fundraising ‘from ordinary citizens.’ But he flew to Vancouver, British Columbia, for a PAC fundraising event for him and 11 other Democratic Senate candidates. Blumenthal said it was not for Harry Reid. Hartford Courant columnist Kevin Rennie reports that the invitation to the event and documents filed with the Federal Election Commission say Reid was among the beneficiaries. Blumenthal says it was an opportunity to discuss problems “affecting ordinary people.” Rennie says the top ticket price was $43,200 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/27/AR2010102705973.html).”

  47. 47 stoppoliticalprostitution

    Hello.
    As a long lime viewer of this site and a Stratford Resident, I feel it is my duty as an honest citizen to give a heads up to all the voters of Shelton, Monroe and Seymour. With election day on Tuesday, the voters of these communities need to be aware and beware of the following information about Jim Miron who is running for state senate on the Democratic ticket.
    1.) Jim Miron has an issue with the truth. It has been my experience that he very RARELY tells it, doesn’t like to hear it and will go to GREAT lengths to hide it.(ex: channel 12 news conference re: Justin Loschiavo)

    2.) He is an embarrassment to the Democratic Party, so much so, there has been an exodus from the party with people changing affiliations because they are so ashamed of his and his family’s behavior, lack of integrity and honesty.

    3.) Jim’s actions before, during and after his 4 year stint as el Commandant, the Mayor, have always been about personal gain, for him, his family and his “friends”. See the information on the “sweetheart” windfall “his” staff received after he lost the election, not to mention the “bonuses” given to certain individuals who also happened to be “key” campaign contributors. It is all a matter of public record.

    4.) He definitely has a problem with impulse control. (feel free to witness 1st hand by watching his inability to interact and maintain self control with Town Council-including members of his own party on video of the council meetings during his tenure).

    5.) Jim and his entire family behave as if the laws of the land and contracts negotiated do not apply to them. Jim violated every labor contract that was in place(in doing so he violated the Charter) by the town thereby causing an avalanche of grievances, lawsuits and state/court mandates awards that will continue to cost the Stratford taxpayers for many many years to come. He caused more of this in his 4 year term than we had in total for the 10 years prior to him.
    a.) Jim made sure that his father stayed on the town payroll with full benefits when he refused to accept his resignation after his father admitted on tv and to a host of newspaper reporters that he took money from grieving families for gravestones and never delivered the stones and used the money elsewhere. Last I heard it was approx. 80 families which equals 80 felonies-and Jim kept him on as the Democratic Registrar of voters.-On the flip side Jim suspended without pay and destroyed the reputations of 2 police officers because he believe they released information about his brother. His words were “my father is innocent until proven guilty”-but that does not apply to these officers who have not been convicted of anything.
    b.) Jim violated the Town Charter-the 1st time when he defended his embezzling sister while he was mayor-apparently he thinks it is ok to steal $25,000 from your employer as long as your name is Miron. Some may not agree with me on this-but I feel he was in violation.
    c.) Jim violated the Charter the minute he accepted his first paycheck from the town. You see for those that don’t know, Jim was on the original Charter Revision Commission and he inserted a clause into the charter to prevent all members of the commission from accepting a paying job in the town for 4 years after the disbanding of the commission. He had Kevin Kelly render an opinion which said you “cannot restrict an individual’s right to run for office”. Now Jim was(?) an attorney at the time he wrote this clause so why didn’t he know this?????? Basically, the way I see it he should have not been allowed to receive a dime as mayor until that time frame was complete. So in essence he felt that clause should apply to everyone but him……
    Why would anyone want a lawmaker who behaves as if he is above the law?????????

    6.) Jim doesn’t pay his own bills-why in the name of samm hill would anyone trust him with working on the the state budget and cash??? (feel free to check with the all the people he stiffed when he over spent his election budget for the mayoral election he lost last year-those people still are waiting).

    7.) Jim’s legacy as mayor is the “first and the worst”. We don’t need this at the state level. He made the worst H.R. decisions in the history of the town. He knowingly and willingly hired an unfit police officer and then lied at television conference he orchestrated and denied knowing about the officer’s lack of fitness, when in fact he had a “secret” contract about the guy’s condition. Jim KNOWINGLY AND WILLINGLY put the lives of not only the officer in question at risk, he put all the officers who had the misfortune of working with him at risk and every person that was in town when that officer was on duty. Jim’s poor judgeship could have cost the lives of innocent people and nearly did at the Town’s last Stratford Day event. One block from where thousands of families were congregating this officer had a full blown seizure and lost control of his police car-his patrol car became a weapon of mass destruction at that moment. This is something that we will never forgive or forget-the stupidity and selfishness of a couple of people-starting with Jim, the officer and the officer’s family members that may have had a hand in the hiring process. Stratford taxpayers will be dealing with the landslide of lawsuits from this incident as well. This is just one example of a very long list of bad decisions by Jim. Connecticut residents deserve far better than this. Feel free to google the Post headlines during his tenure-he made Stratford a national laughing stock.

    8.) For a lawyer, Jim doesn’t pay much attention to detail-especially on big deals. Take the Long Beach West Deal. The public voted to sell it to TPL for a minimum of 10 million dollars- over a five year period -which they agreed to. Jim Miron FAILED to protect the Town and failed to do his due diligence in contract review when he FAILED to provide a certified appraisal of the property. Jim Miron’s lack of attention to appropriate detail blew a 10 MILLION DOLLAR deal for Stratford. Do we need that in Hartford??????? Nope. There are enough problems up there without adding the village idiot to the mix.
    9.) Jim’s accusations about Mr. Kelly making millions of dollars off Stratford is absurd. Jim was the assistant town attorney at one point–did he make millions of dollars?????? He also worked FOR Avalon Bay(apparently he was very desparate for work, maybe??? could it be that job application may have gone through the registrars office for Jim to apply???????), which is a company that is notorious for exploiting the state affordable housing law to circumvent local zoning to build luxury housing with a few affordable units that are not policed by anyone in the state-so are they really affordable?????

    10.) I read a letter the other day by a woman that is not very well informed about the Shakespeare Theater roof. The only reason that Jim fixed it was because he was pandering to a group of theater people. That roof should have been repaired the first year he was in office to prevent structural damage and mold. Instead he left the hole open to the elements for 4 years and low and behold just before the election; bingo there is a new roof! She is really very naive. The only ovation Jim got was on his way out the door-EVERYONE WAS SO GRATEFUL HE WAS GONE THEY COULDN’T HELP IT!!!! We are STILL VERY VERY GRATEFUL HE IS GONE!!!!

    11.) Pay close attention to where his state campaign funding is being spent-there should be someone paying close attention to his Red Poppy Marketing dispersements-as that money is going directly to his girlfriend’s firm, Heather does own it right? and they are still together at the most recent surfacing. I find the symbolism behind both his and her marketing names, logos etc- very interesting. Poppies…is that a Drug reference or just a flower???and diamond Jim????? Does he have so much money to spend at the casino, but he can’t pay his campaign creditors??? Is he for real??????

    I know the intelligent people of Stratford won’t be “gambling” on Jim Miron working in their best interest, that is why we kicked him out of office in Stratford- he did a terrible job-we certainly don’t want him in Hartford.

    So voters of Shelton, Seymour and Monroe-HEADS UP-I have done my civic duty by sharing this information-
    VOTE INTELLIGENTLY ON TUESDAY, Vote for Kevin Kelly. He is honest and he thinks before he acts-he is clearly the only choice.
    (Feel free to google and check all the information-it is all a part of public record)

  48. 48 justanotherreader

    “Stop”,

    Well said. Thanks for bringing out the details about Jim Miron and the many reasons why he is the worst possible candidate for any political position at any level of government. I agree with all of your statements.

    Does anyone know if there are any regulations about how the public campaign financing money can be spent and about the record keeping requirements involved? I would love to see exactly where this money goes. It just seems like a crime to me that Miron can qualify at the 11th hour for the entire sum of money and then be able to spend it as he wishes. That is partly my money and I want to know how he plans on spending it in the last two weeks of his bogus campaign.

  49. 49 jezebel282

    Stop,

    Nice. I think you forgot the part about Mayor Moron building his secure bunker in Town Hall with our money.

    As for Red Poppy Marketing….

    “Founded in 2005 by Heather B. Habelka(Isn’t that when Ms. Hableka became a mayoral “aide”?), Red Poppy Marketing, LLC (formerly HBH Marketing Communications, LLC) is a full service marketing agency based in Fairfield County, Connecticut.”
    What is very interesting is that the business address listed by the CT Secretary of State is:
    Searched on: 0830294
    Total Number of Matches: 1 Page: 1 of 1
    Business Name: Business ID: Status: Address:
    RED POPPY MARKETING, LLC 0830294 Active 77 LENOX AVENUE, STRATFORD, CT, 06615

    Now why does that address sound so familiar? Oh yeah! Now I remember! James R. Miron lives there!

  50. 50 jezebel282

    Just,

    You can look it up yourself (if you can stomach it) at http://seec.ct.gov/ecrisreporting/SearchingDoc.aspx

    Committee/Entity Name: Jim Miron For Senate
    Candidate Name: James R. Miron
    Office sought: State Senator
    Treasurer Name: David P. Fuller

    Apparently Eric Castater and David Fuller just made some nice deposits for themselves. You remember Eric, don’t you? He was another mayoral “aide” that Miron fired on his last day and got a $20,000 cash out.

  51. 51 stoppoliticalprostitution

    To Jusanotherreader:
    Feel free to contact the State elections officials with you question or complaint, they will direct you on how to file a complaint.
    I wonder if Red Poppy has a permit to do business at 77 Lenox Ave. Which is Jimmy’s home address. Seems to me that is a residential district, not a business district.

  52. 52 1george1

    Portia:
    My cousin and I spent 6 years from age 12 to 18 in U. S. NAVAL RESERVE
    SEA CADETS, even going to Great Lakes Boot Camp.

    I do not consider myself a veteran.

    I was told I had a high draft number. It did not matter.
    I was well over the maximum weight and sole son. (sullivan rule)
    After 6 years of Reserve Sea Cadets, I had no interest in the military
    as a career or option. I was not volunteering. I wasn’t running.
    If I had to go and/or if the USA was invaded …..

    I h a t e d that the HIPPIES were right about SO. VIETnam.

    I liked what I saw from your posting of CAZ positions.
    CAZ is someone I would vote for, if in my vote?

    Red Poppy is what veterans sell for fund raisers.
    It is likely based on the poem “In flanders fields,” from WW I.

    Poppies also make a narcotic.
    I believe that narcotic was used to lowering wounded suffering.

    That narcotic has also been abused to harm people, same as War.

    Many people have businesses in their homes, even retailers who have
    sites in business districts, also have offices in their home.

    I like and agree with the blog name: stoppoliticalprostitution.
    My Star Letter to Editor referred to
    Constitutionalized intellectual Prostitution.

    The USA needs a political enema.

  53. 53 portia1776

    George,

    “The USA needs a political enema.” – Agreed. We need to get rid of what Professor Don Boudreaux refers to as “The Geniuses Who Lord Over Us.” Right now that happens to be “Progressive” Democrats. I would be arguing for the same if they were “Progressive” Republicans (e.g., George W. Bush).

    Why do we need a political enema? Here is a prime example. Vice President Biden believes, as some people on this blog who shall remain nameless, that “Every single great idea that has marked the 21st century, the 20th century and the 19th century has required government vision and government incentive. In the middle of the Civil War you had a guy named Lincoln paying people $16,000 for every 40 miles of track they laid across the continental United States…. No private enterprise would have done that for another 35 years'”

    Meditate on this for a moment. How can the 2nd most powerful person in the world be such a mediocrity?

    In any case, Boudreaux responds: “Let’s overlook such fruits of private creativity and enterprise as the light bulb, refrigeration, the assembly line, container shipping, and the polio vaccine and focus instead on Mr. Biden’s example of America’s first transcontinental railroads. The Great Northern – conceived in 1886 and owned and run by the immigrant James J. Hill – received no government assistance (not even free grants of rights-of-way). Moreover, unlike the other three transcontinental lines that were completed in the 19th century – and each of which was indeed government subsidized – the Great Northern never went bankrupt. It’s with us still today as the BNSF Railway (http://cafehayek.com/2010/10/the-geniuses-who-lord-over-us.html ).”

  54. 54 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “How can the 2nd most powerful person in the world be such a mediocrity?”

    I assume you always choose a Democrat for your examples because they happen to be in the current majority?

    As bad as his statements are, I happen to prefer them over the previous occupant of that office; Dick Cheney.

  55. 55 portia1776

    Jez,

    “I assume you always choose a Democrat for your examples because they happen to be in the current majority?” – Well, like President Obama, I never tire of blaming Bush. My rather unique criticism is that he had 8 years, 6 years of which Republicans were in the majority, to do much good. Instead, his failures and expansion of unlimited government set the stage for what came next.

    The only problem with Bush animus is that he hasn’t been in office screwing things up for sometime now and this administration has been, including doubled-down on his anti-free market policies, with predictable results.

    But, in the spirit of bipartisanship, David Boaz of Cato wrote in October last:

    “…what does conservatism stand for today, other than opposition to President Obama? President Bush expanded entitlements, increased federal spending by more than a trillion dollars, federalized education, launched ‘nation-building’ projects in two far-flung regions, and accumulated more power in the White House than any previous president (http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10603
    ).”

    That is not a record any Republican should be proud of.

  56. 56 1george1

    It appears even while JEZE and PORTIA were partially disagreeing,
    both appeared to agree with my premise that USA POLITICS needs
    and ENEMA.

    I feel BUSH – CHENEY were the worst President / Vice President in
    HISTORY. In fact I believe they and their allies in Military Intelligence,
    Security, and B O T H political parties, are N O T simply CRIMINALS,
    but T R A I T O R S, intent on warring on the American and other
    peoples for political, financial, and psychic gratification.

    In the out of print book, dictionary of espionage (Becket) there is a
    definition including clandestine, where Movies, TV, Music, Print and
    electronic media are used to prepare people for political and other
    decisions. This is because people need to see something twice or more
    to have more of an impression…..

    Examples;
    Movie Exorcist was out before Reagan ran for President. Prime character
    who was possessed > Regan (linda blair)
    Ron Reagan was like the movie character and Regan in King Lear.

    The movie Tucker came out a month before Dan Quayle was selected
    GHWB running mate. PORTIA name of Dan Quayle’s son = Tucker.
    Last 4 letters of Quayle name = anagram YALE.

    Movie Wall Street opened about Oct 3, 1987.
    I saw it PRIOR to the WALL STREET, 1987 crash,
    despite the release date is now shown as DEC 1987 and not Oct 1987?

    There are many, many other instances of Movies and Books, prior to
    major events
    UNCLE TOM’S CABIN = CIVIL WAR
    GONE WITH THE WIND = WW II.

    I have met
    Kier Dullea (2001 – space odyssey) (Westport)

    Jason Robarts (Ben Bradley – all President’s men (Moved to Southport)

    George McGovern – UB Lecturer, prior to Stratford Inn (I used his Sept
    1987 Parade Magazzine article in my trip to D. C. about USPS harrassment
    where I proved $ 1 billion day x 27 years from O.P.E.C = buy all DJIA)

    Stan Lee (Spiderman / Marvel)

    Frank (& Chris) Gorshin (Riddler)

    Many others.

    —–

    As to the Joe Biden comment ……

    The British Crown gave many LAND GRANTS to primogenitor family and
    were patrons to many very rich people in the American Colonies.

    The DuPONTS were the LAND AGENTS for the LOUISIANA PURCHASE,
    allowing them FUNDS to create a GUN POWDER PLANT in DE.
    They were from NeMours, same as the last MALE MeDICI.

    The LOUISIANA PURCHASE was in 1803, after the
    AMERICAN REVOLUTION 1775-1783
    FRENCH REVOLUTION 1789 – 1799

    The ROBBER BARONS notes the RAIL ROAD BARONS were given H U G E
    LAND GRANTS by the U. S. Senate and Legislative / Executive.
    Virtually all of the USA Transcontinental Rail roads used West Point
    Graduates as ENGINEERS.
    Most WEST POINT APPINTMENTS are nominated by CONGRESSMEN.

    There is a similarity of the U. S. CONSTITUTION to the MAGNA CARTA,
    where BARONS became something analogous to a MAFIA COMMISSION.

    Britain’s Parliament is similar to the French Parliament and USA Legislative.
    House of LORDS = SENATE
    House of COMMONS = CONGRESS

    Britain extended their partnerships to commoners, who could be
    knighted for service to the CROWN, which could be from MILITARY or
    PIRACY (privateers) or BUSINESS (Conquerored India) or SCIENCE or ARTS
    or ENTERTAINMENT or RELIGIOUS or HUMANITARIAN or SPORTS.

    What confused me about British MASONRY, is that they were the what
    the French considered GENTRY. An untitled class of landowners and
    prosperous business owners.

    This long post is my round about way of raising issues about the true
    powers at the top of the American Pyramid, which I fear may be a
    NORMAN mentality, disdainful of all commoners and all religions and
    beliefs?

  57. 57 1george1

    The question is who took over control of all of the CRIME SYNDICATES
    and at what point, IF ANY, will they decide enough is enough.

    Or will the same MONOPOLY mentality that created the DEPRESSION,
    be causal to the creation of a NEW EMPIRE?

    See JOHN DICKENSON – DEATH of a REPUBLIC (of of PRINT)

    Death of a republic : politics and political thought at Rome 59-44 B.C. / John Dickinson ; edited and with an introduction by George Lee Haskins
    Book Bib ID 1005090
    Format Book, Online – Google Books
    Author Dickinson, John, 1894-1952

    From GEORGE:
    Caesar combined all offices that no one considered to be under single
    control. When the curtain was drawn, Caesar controlled all of the offices
    which were supposed to be checks and balances, under his control.

    It was the end of the ROMAN REPUBLIC and the beginning of the EMPIRE.

    I was manipulated into seeing / reading this about 30 years ago and I
    believe that is the END GAME, where people in the system think they
    will keep what they were given, to betray their positions of trust.

    Caesar loved TREASON.
    Caesar hated TRAITORS.
    Caesar recognized mercenaries alligiance is to the next high bidder.

    Description New York : Macmillan, 1963.
    xi, 400 p. ; 22 cm.

    Subjects Rome – History – Republic, 265-30 B.C. | Rome – History – 53-44 B.C.

    Other authors/contributors Haskins, George Lee, 1915-

  58. 58 jezebel282

    Update:

    The good news is that we won’t getting mailers and robo-calls for at least a year. Although I can almost guarantee that the Democratic Town Committee hasn’t lost enough elections yet to be convinced that the Mironistas within the Committee will be responsible for continued defeats.

    The good news is that CT remains a “blue” State. The GOP was unable to refudiate* the Democratic candidates.

    Elsewhere the results indicate a complete and utter failure of the Democratic Party to clearly define their goal for the country. Even so far as losing to candidates who have admitted to soliciting prostitutes (more fulfilling than lobbyists?) and one who is opposed to the Civil Rights Act and has no problem at all when opponents are stomped. No really, stomped. You know, with a real boot.

    I look for political discourse to be dumbed down even more. This “take our country back” will be no different than calling those who opposed Bush “unpatriotic”. Would you like Freedom Fries with that?

    Unfortunately, unlike actual arguments put forward for debate as my colleague Portia does, we will be getting GOP talking points from John Boehner and Charles Grassley. These are the same guys who brought us the huge expansion of government, trillions of dollars of debt and millions and millions of unemployed Americans. Call me crazy (and I am sure some do) but I just don’t think these guys have the answers.

    *Copyright 2010, Sarah Palin.

  59. 59 1george1

    Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence
    of the American public. – H. L. Mencken

  60. 60 jezebel282

    George,

    “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence
    of the American public.”

    Let’s all hope that after Miron burns through his last $75,000 of public campaign money that he is the first to be an exception to that rule.

  61. 61 cstratct

    Jezebel,

    While I agree with most of your sentiments in the post above, this election is possibly more about who voted then who people were voting for. Take PA as an example. There are nearly a million more registered Democrats then Republicans. But Democrats didn’t turn out. I would say it is as much a failure of voters as it is the parties themselves.

    I absolutely agree that the empty rhetoric of many elected officials does nothing to actually solve problems. I’m not sure they even know what they’re calling for when they use slogans such as “take our country back.” It makes for a great sound bite, but lacks any clear substance. Take it back from whom? Take it back to what?

    The problem I have with people talking about “politicians” is that at some point each and every one was a private citizen. The term is often used as a pejorative to label someone a person is against, as if they have been tainted while a challenger is somehow free of the designation. But at some point an incumbent either loses or retires, and a new individual takes his/her place and immediately becomes a “politician” to fight against. I can’t name a politician who has universal support, so no matter what the individual’s background, political position or station in life, any individual elected to office becomes a “politician” in the eyes of someone.

    Also, we all have different views on what constitutes “the will of the American people” because political views are so diverse, yet polarizing, that it’s difficult to ascertain the “will of the people” on any particular issue. Our country swings back and forth on this political pendulum while constructive discourse on many issues goes unrewarded or worse, never even gains recognition. We could throw out every law ever written since the founding of our country and start over with only the Constitutional powers granted the three branches, and we would still never get 100% agreement on anything.

    It is my hope that some constructive discourse and governing can occur during the next two years. Can it happen? I certainly hope so for everyone’s sake, regardless of political affiliation.

  62. 62 1george1

    There is no “one size fits all.”

    Even is politicians take a position …. when convenient they ignore it.

    PORTIA pointed out weeks ago, REPUBLICANS run on one platform and
    then don’t come close to living up to it.

    Many people who want to support DEMOCRATS, feel they walked away a
    long time ago.

    It appears Obama is about as black as condoleesa rice and colin powell,
    which some people used to call oreo (black on outside/white inside) or
    uncle tom’s cabin house niggers.

    —-

    We could throw out every law ever written since the founding of our
    country and start over with only the Constitutional powers granted the
    3 branches, and we would still never get 100% agreement on anything.

    AGREED

    —-

    How many people raised Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Moslem, and
    practicioners of Western Civ, do not come close to living the GOLDEN
    RULE or TEN COMMANDMENTS?

    I am referring to the universal application and not the hedgmonistic
    exclusionary version.

    My experience with government, is that the people entrusted with
    protecting and upholding the Constitution are the worst violators.

    > Some claimed the USA was the greatest criminal enterprise created?

    > At this point we have an Ouroboros government, instead of Phoenix,
    with a Plutocratic Janus continuum, instead of Ying Yang.

  63. 63 portia1776

    Jez,

    “The good news is” – Miron and all but one Mironista went down in flames. If we didn’t have “clean” public campaign financing that allows these miscreants to collectively rob millions of our tax dollars, I wouldn’t mind such results every November.

    “… the Democratic Town Committee hasn’t lost enough elections yet to be convinced that the Mironistas within the Committee will be responsible for continued defeats.” – I have been told that election results are just the voters opinion, not a fact. President Obama contends that the voters are suffering from false consciousness. Mironistas, as Christine O’Donnell, believe that defeat is victory.

    “The good news is that CT remains a ‘blue’ State.” – That’s the good news? OK, I’ll admit to being kinda of happy that the candidates who would have done a disservice to the classical liberal principles I want the Republican party to uphold were defeated. But that is a narrow, partisan happiness. Our state is in major trouble now that their is no check on the out-of-control veto-proof majority Democratic legislature. Rell might not have been much (see really wasn’t according to CATO’s recent study), but I think her mere presence persuaded the children in the legislature from pushing some excesses.

    “Elsewhere the results indicate a complete and utter failure of the Democratic Party to clearly define their goal for the country.” – Jez, my friend, this is sheer fantasy. Democrats clearly defined their goals. President Obama clearly stated his agenda (“D” is for drive, remember?). And we, the people, in record numbers almost everywhere, rejected that agenda at all levels of government. Have you seen some of the exit polling data? The swing, particularly among women (for the first time ever) and independents, from Democrat to Republican, is historic.

    “…who is opposed to the Civil Rights Act” – False. Rand Paul clearly said he supported civil rights and even federal intervention on civil rights. His comment was directed at one provision of the 1964 law that requires private business owners not to discriminate. While he abhors discrimination and said (rightly) that consumers in the free market would punish businesses that discriminated, Paul thought the law a violation of property rights. Btw, I and a number of classical liberals disagree with him on principled grounds: http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/rand-pauls-position-on-civil-rights-too-hot-even-for-liberatarian-stalwarts/19485872

    “has no problem at all when opponents are stomped.” – Really? Rand Paul endorsed violence? Where is your proof… right, it doesn’t exist. To wit:

    “The Rand Paul for Senate campaign is extremely disappointed in, and condemns the actions of a supporter last night outside the KET debate. Whatever the perceived provocation, any level of aggression or violence is deplorable, and will not be tolerated by our campaign. The Paul campaign has disassociated itself from the volunteer who took part in this incident, and once again urges all activists — on both sides — to remember that their political passions should never manifest themselves in physical altercations of any kind (http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/10/rand-paul-condemns-supporter%E2%80%99s-actions-outside-debate/ ).”

    “I look for political discourse to be dumbed down even more.” – It will be hard to top (I mean, stoop lower) than Nancy “”every month that we do not have an economic recovery package 500 million Americans lose their jobs” Pelosi (we were loosing more jobs than we have people?), Joe “‘What are you talking about, Joe? You’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’. The answer is yes, that’s what I’m telling you” Biden (so if you’re in a ditch keep digging to get out?), Barack “The doctor may… say to himself, ‘You know what? I make a lot more money if I take this kid’s tonsils out'” Obama (“greedy” pediatricians, of course, don’t preform tonsillectomies), Harry “Our system of government is a voluntary tax system” Reid (try telling that to the IRS), Barney “Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis” Frank (of course, they’re always a great investment)… I could go on and on and on… just like I could with George W. “I had to chuck my free market belief in order to save it” Bush (non sequitur and indicative of the fact that he never had free market principles to begin with).

    I take heart, however, in someone like Michigan Republican Justin Amash, one of Time Magazine “40 Under 40” List, who won handily over his xenophobe, anti-free market and anti-free trade Democratic opponent last night.

    Amash is great on transparency: posting all his votes in the state legislature to Facebook along with explanations.

    Additionally, as Red State Eclectic noted: “So how many legitimate congressional candidates post links like this on Facebook (or anywhere for that matter)?

    ‘Justin Amash If you read only two essays on economics, read Hayek’s “The Use of Knowledge in Society” (previous post) and this one by Bastiat . . .

    Bastiat: Selected Essays, Chapter 1, What Is Seen and What Is Not Seen (http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/redstate_commentary/2010/09/congressional-candidate-posts-on-hayek.html)'”

    “no different than calling those who opposed Bush ‘unpatriotic’.” – I think it better to be called “unpatriotic” than an “enemy” deserving of “punishment” by your supporters. Since you choose to acquse Rand Paul of endorsing violence, how about President Obama’s comments that would normally be considered incitement to violence? As Christopher Hitchens wrote on Monday:

    “Much worse, though, was the president’s remark last week, made on a Univision radio show, in which he expressed disappointment with Spanish-speaking voters who proposed to ‘sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us.” Almost everything is wrong with this statement. The first is its awful tone: a crude appeal to ethnicity and to a spoils system of reward and punishment with which to accompany it. The second is the unspoken but highly dubious assumption that Americans (or future Americans) of Mexican and Cuban and Guatemalan and Salvadoran origin can all be collectivized under the lump headings of Hispanic or Latino. The third is the patronizing supposition that this putative bloc is somehow owned by the Democratic Party. And the fourth—to restate my objection above—is that it legitimizes any politician who couches his or her appeal in ethnic or tribal or confessional terms. Again, and whoever opens it, such an auction will always be won by the sectarians. Why, it could almost be called divisive.”

    “Unfortunately, unlike actual arguments put forward for debate as my colleague Portia does, we will be getting GOP talking points from John Boehner and Charles Grassley.” – Thank you. I completely agree. Boehner, Grassley, and McConnell, may Friedman and Hayek help us!

    “These are the same guys who brought us the huge expansion of government, trillions of dollars of debt and millions and millions of unemployed Americans. Call me crazy (and I am sure some do) but I just don’t think these guys have the answers.” – Sadly, you’re right. Reason (and I) are not hopeful:

  64. 64 portia1776

    George,

    “PORTIA pointed out weeks ago, REPUBLICANS run on one platform and
    then don’t come close to living up to it.” – Thanks for noticing. What is even more discouraging is that the GOP “Pledge” is not even worthy of implementation.

  65. 65 jezebel282

    Portia,

    I have to admit, I skipped any of the paid “pundits” last night and have not done my usual scan of websites today. Except for this little tidbit “the Federal Reserve’s announcement of $600 billion of Treasury purchases sent banks higher.” $600 BILLION?

    “the candidates who would have done a disservice to the classical liberal principles I want the Republican party to uphold were defeated.” Who knows that the Republicans or Democrats stand for? You certainly can’t tell by what they do. Do you think they will still call it the Republican Party after the Tea Party takes it over? You know, like SBC changed their own name to AT&T after they gobbled them up?

    “Rell might not have been much”
    The best thing about Jodi was that she was not John Rowland.

    “The Paul campaign has disassociated itself from the volunteer who took part in this incident, and once again urges all activists — on both sides — to remember that their political passions should never manifest themselves in physical altercations of any kind”
    Spitting on representatives is much better.

    ‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us.”
    LOL! At least he didn’t call them hermaphrodites. Actually, that’s kinda refreshing since that’s what politicians always do to each other. We happen to be the innocent bystanders.

    Frankly, I’m tired of all this “take our country back” stuff. If they were serious, they would ban all funding of campaigns and force politicians to debate in public and be interviewed in the press. Like, like…our Founding Fathers!

  66. 66 1george1

    George,

    “PORTIA pointed out weeks ago, REPUBLICANS run on one platform and
    then don’t come close to living up to it.” – Thanks for noticing.
    What is even more discouraging is that the GOP “Pledge” is not even
    worthy of implementation.

    Are your referring to the “CONTRACT WITH AMERICA,” which became
    the “CONTRACT ON AMERICA?”

    ———————–

    LOL! At least he didn’t call them hermaphrodites.

    Like Gomez Addams always said to MORT – i – C.I.A.
    “Tish ….. I love it when you talk dirty …”

    ——- i jus gotta have sum fun wit dis ….

    Reading Wikipedia about Gomez reminds me of …. hmmmm?
    Jeze — remind you of anyone?

    Gomez Addams is an athletic, acrobatic, and eccentric multi-billionaire.

    NOPE.

    Though an extremely successful businessman, having acquired much of
    his wealth through investments, he seems to have little regard for money
    and will casually spend thousands of dollars on any whimsical endeavor
    (a fact that often mortifies visitors of the Addams household).
    Gomez’s investments are guided more by whimsy than strategy,
    yet luck rarely fails him.

    In the original sitcom, Gomez owned businesses around the world,
    including a crocodile farm (“Crocodiles Unlimited”), a buzzard farm,
    a salt mine, “a tombstone factory,” a uranium mine, and many others.

    It was not unheard of for him to simply forget that he owned a
    controlling interest in a business or to draw a check on the
    wrong bank.

    He nevertheless studied law
    (voted “Most Likely Never to Pass the Bar”),
    and although he rarely practices,
    he takes an absurd delight in losing cases,
    boasting of having put many criminals behind bars
    while acting as their defense attorney;

    ———————————————————————————————-

    I’m tired of all this “take our country back” stuff.

    If they were serious,

    Why be SERIOUS? A N Y L I E will do!
    DUCK SOUP!

    They would ban all funding of campaigns and force politicians
    to debate in public

    Kelly & Miron debated.
    They avoided any substance and their own criminal misconduct! 😦

  67. 67 jezebel282

    Update: Last chance for Americans.

    “NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Two million people will run out of unemployment benefits next month if Congress fails to act in the coming weeks.

    The deadline to file for federal unemployment benefits expires on Nov. 30. If it is not pushed back, 800,000 people will stop getting checks within four days, according to the National Employment Law Project, an advocacy group….

    …Jobless benefits are credited with keeping 3.3 million people out of poverty last year, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities…

    …Congress has a narrow window to act. Lawmakers return on Nov. 15 for a week before taking off for the Thanksgiving holiday. Then they are back for only two days before the Nov. 30 deadline hits…

    ..House Democrats are expected to push for an extension this month. Republican leaders did not return requests for comment…”

    Not even a comment from Republicans? No lecture about the morale dilemma about lazy jobless people not looking for non-existent jobs?

  68. 68 1george1

    “NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) —
    Two million people will run out of unemployment benefits next
    month if Congress fails to act in the coming weeks.

    WINTER STARTS DEC 22.

    The deadline to file for federal unemployment benefits expires on
    Nov. 30. If it is not pushed back, 800,000 people will stop getting
    checks within four days, according to the National Employment
    Law Project, an advocacy group….

    THE UNEMPLOYED DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO POLITICAL PARTIES

    Jobless benefits are credited with keeping 3.3 million people out of poverty
    last year, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities…

    BEING PAID LESS THAN 1/2 YOUR NORMAL PAYCHECK ISN’T POVERTY?

    …Congress has a narrow window to act. Lawmakers return on Nov. 15
    for a week before taking off for the Thanksgiving holiday.

    THE POLITICAL TURKEYS ENJOY STUFFING THEIR POCKETS

    Then they are back for only two days before the Nov. 30 deadline hits…

    ANYONE BELIEVE EITHER PARTY CARES?
    WILL THERE BE SOME PIPELINE or OIL RIG or OIL TANK / TANKER EXPLOSIONS
    to JUSTIFY $ 5 GALLON HEATING OIL?

    ..House Democrats are expected to push for an extension this month.

    PRETEND TO CARE.
    UNEMPLOYED DO NOT DONATE!

    Republican leaders did not return requests for comment…”

    UNEMPLOYED ARE NOT REPUBLICAN CONSTITUTENTS

    BOTH PARTIES NEED TO BRIBE POLICE, LAWYERS, JUDGES, GOVERNMENT
    WORKERS.
    NJ WILL LAY OF 3,000 GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES (or ATTRIT)
    Likely 2,800 ATTRIT and 200 WHO TICKED OFF A PARTY BOSS = MAKE EXAMPLE?

  69. 69 jezebel282

    Update:

    Time Warner, Cablevision results show economic divide

    By Yinka Adegoke and Paul Thomasch

    NEW YORK | Thu Nov 4, 2010 2:42pm EDT

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – Plain old-fashioned cable television just can’t shake the economic blues.

    Quarterly results on Thursday from Time Warner Cable, Cablevision Systems Corp and DirecTV showed wealthier families — those that weathered the downturn — are sticking with cable and satellite subscriptions, and in many cases upgrading to add services such as video recorders or faster broadband speeds.

    But pay television providers are steadily losing thousands of customers on the wrong side of the economic divide, those who often subscribe to cheaper basic video service and now find themselves out of a job or buried in debt.

    Cablevision, for instance, lost 24,500 basic video customers, during the third quarter, and Time Warner Cable lost 155,000 — more than analysts had forecast for either operator.

  70. 70 1george1

    Obama has challenged his cabinette on my upcoming birthday
    to actually start being the president he wanted to be, rather
    than the president circumstances forced on him.

    G W Bush book objected to Kanye West saying G W Bush don’t like
    BLACK PEOPLE, related to KATRINA.

    G W B is a TRAITOR and CRIMINAL who has no use for anyone who
    does not kick in to support his criminal enterprise.
    > He is equally willing to use black, white, purple, or green.
    > No different than the nominal Democrats or Republicans.

    Like every scoundel he is very capable of wrapping himself in the
    FLAG, or SCHOOL PRAYER, or giving LIP SERVICE for the TROOPS.

    Rowdy Roddy Piper made a movie years ago about the people who
    look like averarge american but remind me of political parties ghouls
    in a movie called “THEY LIVE.”

    ALL OF THE CONSPIRACY NUTS will love this from WIKIPEDIA:

    “Piper also starred in the 1988 John Carpenter cult classic, They Live.
    Piper played a drifter turned saviour of the human race after discovering
    a pair of sunglasses that allow him to see the world’s elite
    for what they truly are,
    money hungry aliens
    with a new-world-order-like agenda.’

    EVERYTHING in QUOTES in above 6 lines is E X A C T L Y from WIKIPEDIA.
    I also think the WWE was scripting some of Stratford antics.
    They also had a TV announcer in 2001 named K E V I N – K E L L Y !!!

  71. 71 1george1

    wikipedia: they live

    They Live is a 1988 science fiction film directed by John Carpenter, who also wrote the screenplay under the pseudonym Frank Armitage. The film is based on Ray Nelson’s 1963 short story Eight O’Clock in the Morning.

    Part science fiction thriller and part dark comedy, the film echoed contemporary fears of a declining economy, within a culture of greed and conspicuous consumption common among Americans in the 1980s. In They Live, the ruling class within the moneyed elite are in fact aliens managing human social affairs through the use of a signal on top of the TV broadcast that is concealing their appearance and subliminal messages in mass media.

    The story revolves around a nameless man referred to as “Nada” (Roddy Piper),

    Nada finds boxes of special sunglasses and takes one.

    Nada later dons the glasses for the first time, the world appears
    in shades of grey, with significant differences.
    He notices that a billboard now simply displays the word “Obey”;
    without them it advertises that Control Data Corporation is
    “creating a transparent computing environment.”
    Another billboard (normally displaying “Come to the Caribbean”
    written above an attractive woman lying on a beach) now displays
    the text “Marry and Reproduce.”

    He also sees that paper money bears the words
    “This is your God.”
    All printed matter around him contains subliminal advertising.

    Additionally, he soon discovers that many people are actually aliens,
    who are human-looking except for skull-like faces.
    The aliens tend to be wealthy upper class members of society,
    as well as politicians.

    When the aliens realize he can see them for what they truly are,
    the police suddenly arrive.

  72. 72 portia1776

    Jez,

    What is your point in posting “Time Warner, Cablevision results show economic divide”? Are you suggesting that people who “find themselves out of a job or buried in debt” should keep their cable at the expense of other staples? (Food or Food Channel?) Or perhaps those families that are splurging on premium channels should, in “fairness,” have their channels forcibly redistributed to everyone else (HBO for all!).

    The real issue here is that the cable cartel is charging too much and denying consumers choice. Why can’t we pick exactly which channels we want and pay only for those channels? At one point this was not technologically possible, but there is no excuse now when you can on-demand almost anything. So please don’t feel sorry for Cablevision and TimeWarner. Perhaps the exodus of basic clients will force them to start offering more choice to consumers.

    Consumers, however, aren’t waiting. More and more programming is available online. What would be interesting is how many of the ex-cable customers are keeping their Internet access, the gateway to endless content at low or no cost.

    In more self-interest, individual choice, and personal responsibility are good and actually work in the real-world (or, alternatively, Americans aren’t as stupid and helpless and in need of arrogant overlords as “Progressives” say we are) news:

    “Carole and Don Carroll: Debt-Free After 30 Years” without a government bailout or intervention of any kind, without defaulting on their debt, without steady employment, and without good health. The couple borrowed money and paid it back, despite great personal hardships.

    “Until four years ago, Carole and Don Carroll considered it normal to live in a constant state of stress. Every day, the New York City couple engaged in a complicated dance with more than a dozen credit cards and a car loan. When they met in 1990, each partner already carried a credit card balance, and by the time they got serious about paying it down in 2006, they owed $88,000. They lived frugally, skimping to stay on top of the minimum payments they often made with credit card cash advances.

    Today, just three and a half years after signing up with a credit counseling service, the couple is debt-free. Their mighty pay-down efforts were rewarded Oct. 5 with the Professional Achievement and Counseling Excellence (PACE) 2010 Graduate Client of the Year Award. The National Foundation for Credit Counseling gives out this award to those who commit to repaying their debt and manage their money.

    ….

    Over the years, both partners experienced several layoffs. Both had health problems — Carole has had two hips replaced, and both underwent gastric bypass surgery to address severe obesity. Each event triggered an uptick in credit card balances.

    After a while the cards maxed out, yet their debt continued to grow. Late fees, over-limit fees and annual percentage rates hitting 30 percent meant that their balances swelled monthly, even though they no longer charged on plastic. ‘It was fees after fees after fees,’ Carole says. ‘To this day, it is a blur how that even worked.’ The Carrolls stopped dining out with friends because they couldn’t afford it. ‘We became really good cooks,’ she says.

    Don suggested that the couple seek credit counseling, and friends urged them to file for bankruptcy. Carole resisted. ‘I thought we could pay off all these bills ourselves,’ she says. ‘Bankruptcy seemed like walking away from your responsibility. We created these bills, and I wanted to pay for these bills.’

    She reached a breaking point several years ago when Don suffered heart problems, and creditors started calling relentlessly. ‘I was very concerned about Don, and with the bills, it became overwhelming,’ Carole says. The stress kept her up at night. ‘That got to me after a while,’ she says.

    ….

    Payments totaled about 30 percent of the couple’s take-home pay, but they stuck with it relentlessly. Not surprisingly, there wasn’t much spending they could cut back on, though they did downgrade their premium cable plan. Carole and Don paid double the minimum on each card, and each time one balance was paid off, they applied any newly freed money to the next card, which meant each card was paid off quicker than the previous one. This system continued even after Don lost his job in January.

    Over the next few years, any extra cash from holiday bonuses or tax refunds was applied to the debt, and just three and a half years later in April, the Carrolls were debt-free. ‘This is really a feeling of freedom,’ Carole says. ‘I never realized you could sleep this well.’

    What is the couple doing with their newly freed-up funds? They’re socking it away in a car fund for the day their Hyundai Elantra needs to be replaced, and building up the recommended six-month emergency fund. Don has landed contract work, but the couple realizes the job market is tenuous.

    ….

    In sharing her story with friends and acquaintances, Carole’s fear of being stigmatized has been relieved as others share their own stories of debt. Their advice for others: Seek the help you need. ‘You can pay off your debt, even in this economy,’ Carole says (http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110954/biggest-loser-of-debt?mod=bb-budgeting ).”

    What great Americans the Carroll’s are. And what an important example they set for this most difficult time in the country’s history.

  73. 73 1george1

    What great Americans the Carroll’s are. And what an important
    example they set for this most difficult time in the country’s history.

    PORTIA,
    The accomplishment of the couple is inspiring.

    However they were a couple and despite extra costs as a couple,
    they save substancially in many basic costs, living together and
    having “two incomes.” (even with being unemployed at times)

    Compare them to a man and a women who are on their own each
    with the same basic living situation:
    TWICE Mortage or Rent
    Virtually TWICE Utilities
    Virtually TWICE basic expense, since TWO really can eat cheaper
    than one!
    Certainly TWO together are close to 1/2 COST of TWO separately.
    Various INSURANCES are proportionally higher for INDIVIDUALS.

    When it comes to discretionary spending and debt repayment,
    a couple has advantages over singles.

    NOTE: Kids and higher education, changes the dynamics.

    I was able to reduce ATT from $ 127 month to CABLE $ 91. (totals)
    MAGIC of the MARKET.
    I had them eliminate one DVD and I shopped.

    I need phone and computer for work (and pleasure)
    My Cell is Emergency as needed.
    The cable pays for itself, by having things to see just one night
    a week and not wasting money at a bar-restaurant to see sports.

    Newspaper coupons for shopping specials exceed the cost of the
    Newspaper subscription.

    I cook in more often, much less expensive than (even drive thru)
    eating out, and I can enjoy dinner, while watching cable.

    It is amazing how barren even cable TV is, when a better choice
    than the Court, Cops, and government oriented show are POKER
    and SPORTS choices.

  74. 74 jezebel282

    Portia,

    “What is your point in posting “Time Warner, Cablevision results show economic divide”?”
    My point was much simpler than your response addressed. Unemployment has an effect on all of us, including large corporations.

    It is not, as you suggested in your response, some sort of moral imperative having to do with paying your bills. It is more to the point of having nothing to pay your bills with. The article suggests that the unemployed are indeed cutting back on everything; Food, clothing, electricity, heat, water, gas, phone, TV. The drumbeat of new foreclosures, defaults, late rent payments and hopelessness will just get louder.

    It is apparent that over the last decade, trickle down hasn’t worked. To fix this economy it is probably time to try a little trickle up. Amazingly, when more people have money it is easier to sell them something.

  75. 75 jezebel282

    Portia,

    One more point, if I may. Mostly this one has to do with the comments I’ve read on other err..”conservative” sites like the Wall Street Journal. Almost all of them decry the government “hand out” of unemployment benefits. Astoundingly, they tend to blame the unemployed themselves. Somehow it is their own fault for not finding work after the destruction of 17 million jobs. Accusations are made that the unemployed are waiting for dream jobs. Obviously none of these writers have tried to find work yet at almost any retail store, gas station, fast food restaurant or anywhere else. Further suggestions include moving to another state where there might be work. They never ever suggest which state that might be or how an unemployed person might get there while paying rent or a mortgage on their existing dwelling. (If they own their own home, lot’s of luck selling it).

    But the most outrageous thing I’ve read is that unemployment benefits somehow keep people from looking for work.

    It is this inability to even imagine what it might be like for someone else who has been laid off and looking for work for a year or two years or three years that particularly outrages me. I’m am sure most of these writers think it could never happen to them. They think to themselves, “Well, I have some savings…I’ll be OK. I’d find another job before anything bad happens”. After they run through their savings, their life insurance policies, their IRA’s, their equities, their second homes, and their COBRA “benefits” like almost all of the 17 million (at least) other Americans have they might actually change their mind.

    I guess my point is that unemployment has absolutely nothing to do with morality or responsibility.

  76. 76 phineast

    Jez-
    You are not totally correct on this one. There are currently studies be done about the very fact that the extended unemployment is in fact keeping people from looking for work with sincerity.
    Not in all situations.
    One of the studies is about a “new welfare mentality” among displaced middle class and upper middle class individuals. One of the areas that is being looked at is the “why”. of it. Interestingly, some of these individuals feel “entitled” to get paid for the full duration because they have worked hard most of their lives. They also feel it is their right because so much of their hard earned tax dollars have gone to pay for so many freebies for system abusers that have gone unchecked for fear of racism claims for so long.
    I know this because a friend is working on one of the studies.
    I realize that this does not apply to everyone.
    One of the other things that was revealed to date was that these same individuals don’t feel they have to change their lifestyle expectations dramatically during this time period or their expectations of salary in future employment or they type of employment they should accept. They have discriminating tastes(not meant in the classic definition) in life apparently and plan to continue on that course in the future. (ie: you won’t find a former trader managing a Mc D’s just because it is the only job around-they would stay unemployed before accepting that job, which is absurd).
    As I have said this doesn’t apply to everyone but there is a percentage that it does apply to. There are people that are out there pounding the pavement looking for work-any type of legal work to pay their bills, and those are the individuals that I applaud.
    Any one off us could be in the unemployment situation, and most of us would be out there looking-and doing what needs to be done even if it means a total lifestyle change-but to say that everyone does that is not the truth-it would be like there is no such thing as generational welfare.

  77. 77 1george1

    If Phin / Jeze others go back to my posts prior to Aug – Sept 2008.

    We all (mostly all) have similar sensitivies. Unfortunately I saw a lot of
    this coming, much sooner, due to life experiences and people I know.

    Many people go into shock when first unemployeed.
    Especially if they work continuously for many years.
    I was with the USPS over 16 years.

    Some use unemployment as a vacation.
    Sometimes for a couple weeks, sometimes longer.

    Some work under the table while being unemployed.

    Each of those contributes to getting back to work.

    However this is a different world with many Cold War skill sets, no
    longer needed or needing a fraction of the people to do the same
    jobs, thanks to computerized machining and other efficiencies?

    I call companies with 50 + employees or Towns / BoE.

    Most privately held large companies have downsized dramatically,
    if they are still open.

    How do you become EMPLOYED, when there are NO JOBS and/or
    no MATCHING SKILL SETS?

    With more competition for JOBS, it is an ideal for Business Owner to
    PAY LESS, with LESS BENEFITS …. until they run into GOVERNMENT
    CAUSED COSTS of being able to GIVE BENEFITS or PAY DECENTLY or
    HIRE PEOPLE?

    Neither Republicans, nor Democrats are friendly towards Business.

    They both need POLICE, FIRE, TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATIVE BUREAUCRATS,
    which are the traditional TAMMANY HALL JOBS.

    They built a criminal justice empire, including jails and rehab.

    They both need MILITARY, which pays CRAP, and benefits from HIGH
    EMPLOYMENT. Nov 11th is VETERANS Day.
    – Military wives are so hard pressed for income, they rent WOMBS to
    carry other peoples’ children.
    – Many Military personnel / families have deep debt issues, due to low
    income and basic living costs.
    – For an individual, the Military and Jail, covers basic costs the homeless
    do not have: Shelter, Heat, Electric, Hot Water, Food / Beverage, Clothing,
    Medical / Dental, Work Equipment, and busyness.

    I had a cable installer who was paid $ 36 a gig as an Independent Contractor.
    I threw him $ 10 extra.
    If it is raining or icey, he can’t go climbing ladders or play with electricity.
    God forbid, if he fell off his ladder?

    I worked for a LABOR COMPANY. We paid $ 6.90 and then $ 7.10 hour.
    These guys worked harder in a day than I worked in a month.
    And I suspect harder than any reader.

    I knew an ex-DRUG DEALER who told me, how else is a BLACK MAN going to
    earn $ 1,000 a week, to raise a family.

    I know Police and people related to Police who told me of Police who went
    into Drug Dealers homes to rip them off of DRUGS to sell on the STREET, when
    they had not had a DRUG BUST in awhile.

    When I was younger the girls would do anything for cocaine… NO BLOW?
    NO BLOW! They told me the police, lawyers, politicians, and judges had
    the best drugs and unlimited supplies.

    The DTC Treasurer Adam Brill countered my letter to the editor about
    the KNAPP COMMISSION “BEEF EATERS” and “GRASS EATERS.”

    100 % of NYC Judges and GOLD SHIELDS (Detectives) were on MAFIA payroll,
    despite the revisionism.

    “AMERICAN GANGSTER,” “SERPICO,” “GODFATHER,” “SCARFACE,” only touch
    the TIP of the ICE BERG where people PREY on people …..

    —–

    If the politicians raised everyone’s standard of living, with home ownership
    for all, with good jobs with benefits = great economics!
    Virtually elimate ABUSE: Drugs, Alcohol, Tobacco

    More property Tax to Towns.
    More Sales Tax and other Tax to States.
    More Income Tax and other Tax to Feds.

    Lower cost of unemployment, health care and many welfare type programs
    to the masses, and we could eliminate corporate and political welfare.

    How much money is enough, to solve unnecessary problems?

  78. 78 1george1

    CORRECTION – Should have read HIGH “UN”-EMPLOYMENT

    benefits from HIGH
    EMPLOYMENT.
    Nov 11th is VETERANS Day.

  79. 79 jezebel282

    Phin,

    “Any one off us could be in the unemployment situation, and most of us would be out there looking-and doing what needs to be done even if it means a total lifestyle change”

    You’ve answered your own argument. To say that each and every person of the 17+ million is out there every day looking for temp work or minimum wage jobs would be a silly thing to say. Back in the day when work was available the CT unemployment rate hovered a few tenths above or below 2%. Even then people who were laid off always applied for job openings. Using those parameters, I doubt any of these myths that people who are unemployed are simply sitting around waiting for something better to come along.

    Besides…how many custodians with MBA’s can the economy absorb?

    If you want a real answer all you have to do is ask anyone…anyone at all who has been out of work one, two or even three years. I’m sure you can find one.

  80. 80 phineast

    Jez-
    I was relaying info that this particular study is investigating.
    One of the things I found interesting is that people that were in the upper middle class that had been displaced for over a year that were “collecting” felt that they were ENTITLED to collect for the entire allotted time-the inference is a new breed of people who feel the are ENTITLED to get paid for doing nothing. I am not talking about the individual who is willing to go out and pound the pavement and go through job retraining to get employed. I am talking about the people that are choosing to bleed the system because they can. I want to know what happened to ingenuity and people willing to work hard for the American dream???? I work my ass off so more than 1/3 of my check goes to mandated taxation that pays for social programs that I may not want my money to go to. I have no problem helping our seniors, vets and orphans. I do have a problem with paying for illegal aliens(for anything they need), I have a problem paying for people that have kids just to get more money from the government, I have a problem paying for people for the long term that are healthy and able bodied that are either too lazy to get a job, or feel slinging a burger is beneath them because the pay isn’t as much as welfare or because they have an “MBA”….I have a problem paying for anything that those people in jail require other than for security-I don’t care if they are warm and fed-they should have thought about that before they committed a crime-they should have to do hard labor and have no access to phones, computers, tv’s and gymnasiums-they are there for punishment not to get a free college degree and the spa treatment.
    I work hard to be a good person and to make the world a better place for the greater good. I just don’t always believe that throwing money at something is the answer, I know, not very democratic of me….
    I have a relative that came to this country through Ellis Island with only $7.00 in his pocket. He learned to speak English, read and write, and would do any kind of job that was legally allowed to earn money. He happened to be good with his hands and a quick study and made things out of other people’s discarded items and sold them(quite possibly the birther of recycling 😉 ). This grew into a small business which lead him to learning other new things which grew into another business. He worked hard, used his mind and was honest. He was never a burden to society-his dire situation and desire to succeed gave him the motivation to do what needed to be done-and he had no real capital to start up with. Honesty and hard work can go a long way when you put ingenuity and determination with them.

  81. 81 stoppoliticalprostitution

    Good Afternoon.
    Can anyone confirm something I heard today? I was told that the “tea party” was going to sue Susan Bysewicz for a violation of voters rights when she extended the polls for Bridgeport only and allowed them to use photocopied ballots. This gentleman states that all the other voters in the state had their rights violated because it gave Bridgeport and unfair advantage due to the press reporting number projections during the extended time frame and allowed the Democratic party to “stack” their votes in that community. He also said that if the hours were extended in Bridgeport they should have been extended everywhere in the state.
    I would appreciate any information.

  82. 82 jezebel282

    Stop,

    Nothing on that yet. But with players like Bill Finch, Arthur Laske, Santa Ayala do you think anything good will come of it?

    Susan Bysiewicz didn’t order the polls to stay open, by the way. A Judge did. Good luck suing a judge.

    (You get a C- for spelling “Bysiewicz” incorrectly)

    😉

  83. 83 jezebel282

    Phin,

    “I just don’t always believe that throwing money at something is the answer, I know, not very democratic of me….”

    I surely hope you are currently employed.

    “I have a problem paying for people for the long term that are healthy and able bodied that are either too lazy to get a job, or feel slinging a burger is beneath them because the pay isn’t as much”

    The average unemployment compensation of about $290/week isn’t a whole lot to sit around and feel lazy about. It’s not like the Unemployed are booking cruises.

    I have a problem paying for lots and lots of things the government pays for. Starting with Congressmen’s salaries or insufficiently armored personnel carriers. But neither you nor I get to decide where that money goes. I would like all of my money to go into senior services and handicapped services. My children are grown and no longer need schools, who cares about education…anymore?
    (I’m KIDDING!)

  84. 84 1george1

    Friday 10 pm Jeze Ventura “conspiracy theory.”

    Some things he hits.
    Some things he goes after the wrong people.

    Which is more costly and less decent?
    Welfare, Food stamps, some medical,

    or

    Weapons / Munnitions Trading
    Oil / Gas / Coal Monopoly kiting by 1200 %
    Insider Trading by D.C. + State Houses, with Wall Street and Military
    Intelligence.

    Much different than our troops and loyal workers.

    If the Budget gets busted and police and fire dept start paying the
    price, only then will they get concerned.

    Meanwhile, who knows what is legit?
    and what is more posturing?

  85. 85 jezebel282

    Update:

    The NY Times
    Business Background Defines Chief of Staff
    By ERIC LIPTON
    Published: January 6, 2011

    WASHINGTON — He is a top executive at JPMorgan Chase, where he is paid as much as $5 million a year and supervises the Washington lobbying efforts for the nation’s second-largest bank. William M. Daley also serves on the board of directors at Boeing, the giant defense contractor, and Abbott Laboratories, the global drug company, which has billions of dollars at stake in the overhaul of the health care system.
    And now, Mr. Daley, a longtime Illinois political operative, will hold one of the most powerful jobs in Washington: chief of staff in the White House, where he will help decide who gets access to the Oval Office and what President Obama’s Capitol Hill agenda should be.”

    Are you kidding me? Seriously? Chief of Staff? At THE White House? Wait for it, Portia is going to go nuts over crony capitalism any minute now.

  86. 86 1george1

    Syl loved Glen Beck……
    I ignore the talking heads channels, for the most part.
    However Glen Beck hit the nail on the head with what I believe
    is going on ….. however, I believe he is no where close to the
    true causal manipulators:

    1) Have the solutions (plan) < see straford
    2) Put people in power < see stratford
    3) Create and exploit problems < see stratford
    4) overwhelm / collapse the system < see stratford
    5) Organize riots
    6) cry out for the solutions < see Stratford

    Beck mentioned the1 1968 Chicago Democratic Primary riots were on the
    anniversary of MLK I have a dream speach.

    He ignored the fact 1968 Chicago Democratic Primary was chosen to be on
    those dates.

    He ignored the fact MLK was shot the first anniversary of MLK coming out
    against the Vietnam War.

    —-

    By the way … back to the point … for a change …. I agree with Jeze post.


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