Red v. Blue Playoffs

05Oct12

Which looks more reliable?

With 30 days or so to go, it is getting to the point where we actually have to decide whom to vote for. For some of us, the question is whether to vote at all given the choices. This election season it is downright depressing. Nonetheless, sitting at home and hoping for the best is not an option. Locally we are blessed that our lawns are not covered by the usual amount of candidate signs. Both the RTC and DTC have decided to pretty much sit this one out. The DTC wasn’t even able to field a candidate to oppose Kevin Kelly in the 21st Senate District (Whattsamatter, DTC? It’s either Miron or nobody?). But at least the DTC website is up. The same cannot be said for the RTC website. Of course, the DTC has no mention of Obama, Murphy or DelAuro anywhere. Not even a link. Again we ask what do the RTC & DTC have to do with Democrats or Republicans?

What few local elections there are, like the 120th and 121st State Representatives, have the same old pols we see running in every election.

Which leaves us with the Federal elections…..

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31 Responses to “Red v. Blue Playoffs”

  1. 1 jezebel282

    Let’s face it, the incumbent U.S. Representatives in CT will be re-elected by huge majorities.

    That leaves us with a choice between McMahon and Murphy. This choice begs the question; did the Republicans and Democrats work extra hard to find the worst candidates possible? This choice is a direct result of Connecticut’s closed primary system.

    Of course, as we are annoyingly aware, McMahon has plenty of money to inundate every channel with ads. Sadly, her positions have not changed at all since the last time she was defeated. My personal favorite is the ad she runs criticizing Murphy for being late on his mortgage payments. (Of course, he got a well paying job and was able to pay off all of his debt.) On the other hand, McMahon declared bankruptcy and simply walked away from her debt. It leaves you wondering why she runs the ad at all. This race boils down to the usual choice of the least worst. Murphy happens to be less worse than McMahon.

  2. Seriously, is anything right these days? Politicians aren’t in it for the people, they’re in it for the money. The same goes for Boards of Education. It has nothing to do with what’s best for us or our children; it’s all about the paycheck. Even some of our cops – they become cops to get away with what the average citizen can’t, and also exhibit control and power over the average citizen. Bad combination – control freaks and a badge! Every town and city has the same problems.

    People drive while texting, talking on phones, blowing stop signs, red lights, and just plain ignoring a majority of traffic laws ~ all because they have self-importance issues. I see traffic jams every day started by someone going under the speed limit because they’re reading texts, trying to text, and even trying to smoke, talk on the cell phone and drive at the same time. We all have something we think we should be allowed to get away with. Why not, we see the “above the law” politicians, administrations and cops doing it all the time, right?

    In a few weeks, we have a major decision to make – who should get our vote as the next president? I haven’t made a decision either way yet. I see mouths moving, but I’m tired of double-talk and tip-toeing. There is no honesty, no integrity. There is just lots of BS thrown by all politicians in both parties hoping it’ll stick to someone and get them a vote. Each has an agenda of their own.

    Trust me, I’m tired. Tired of having a hard time. Tired of being swindled by local, state and federal government in one way or another. Every time they run out of money, another tax pops up, another committee created to study something someone things should be banned, barred, banished – all taking more of our hard earned dollars.

    All in all – it just plain sucks.

  3. 3 mikereynolds

    I wasn’t aware that members of the Board of Education get paid.

  4. 4 jezebel282

    PCS,

    I have to agree with much of what you say. In fact yesterday I witnessed not one but two cars continue to make left turns directly in front of an oncoming Stratford EMS ambulance with lights & sirens blaring. Apparently, wherever they were going was so important that it was better to slow down and force to stop an ambulance that was clearly responding to someone else’s problem.

    On the other hand, there remain a few people (I know, not nearly enough) who’s integrity, honesty and dedication to others is unquestionable and a shining example to the rest of us.

    …Like you.

  5. @ Mike ~ not talking about elected members, talking about administration. I’m not talking just Stratford, it’s “in general.”

    As for the police ~ also, not talking about Stratford. Look at the random drug tests in Bridgeport that pretty much disbanded the tactical unit.

    @ Jez ~

    I’m certain not perfect, trust me. I do try and live with honesty and integrity and I’m trying to teach Sage the same thing.

    I started reading “Throw Them All Out.” It’s about the cronyistic and nepotistic ways of politics, career politicians and how they basically get in it to make a living and what a living they are making. As far as I am concerned, elected officials are in basically “civil service” jobs. The people involved should be in it to better the people, not to fulfill their own agenda. It’s rampant – federal, state and local levels. You know it and I know it. I truly believe that nothing, absolutely nothing, will change unless a cleansing is done from top to bottom – meaning all levels of government. We are paying for their retirement funds, their health care, vacations, etc. WTF!

  6. 6 jezebel282

    PCS,

    “I’m certain not perfect, trust me.”

    I certainly hope this does not get back to the Mom’s Union.

    “meaning all levels of government. We are paying for their retirement funds, their health care, vacations, etc. WTF!”

    Wouldn’t it be nice if we could all vote for our own compensation package using other people’s money?

  7. 7 jezebel282

    Editor’s note: Correction. There is an actual race in the 120th District.

    Had anyone not guessed by now, our endorsement goes to Terry Masters.

  8. I’m glad to see your site is endorsing Terry. If nothing else, for the sole reason that I looked up Hoydick’s voting record and it is disgusting. She voted “nay” in about 90% of the bills that passed. And she voted nay in bills that passed way beyond the 50/50 margin. Further, at least Terry is reaching out on the Patch. I have not come across one blog or comment by Hoydick. Typical RTC. They just assume they can win the district.

    PCS – I am with Jez, I could not agree with your points more. I would love to see term limits on congress and I would love to remove their right to vote themselves raises. I am not sure who should decide when raises are due, but it should not be themselves. Don’t get me started on their healthcare. Hypocrits. BOTH parties.

    All of that said, I think Murphy is a scum, but I think McMahon is worse scum. I sooo wish the dems replaced him as a candidate. But alas, they didnt. So in this case I have to vote for someone who I think is a moron because his opponent scares me more. (plus I generally think she is a bitch, but I digress…)

    As for Obama/Romney, frankly I wish both of them had different vice presidents. Ryan is a nightmare though and that alone would sway my vote but I also think Romney is a joke who is completely out of touch with middle america and who will ultimately screw us even more than bush did. (never thought that was possible until now..) Am I completely pleased with Obama? no. esp after that failure of debate. But I also know he inherited a nightmare and it truly does take more than 4 years to recover. Particularly when you are up against a congress whose sole purpose is not for the people, but simply to get him not re-elected.

    So, in conclusion (Jesus, is this longer than George’s posts?? I hope not..)
    I agree that the Romney/Obama and Murphy/McMahon tickets are not ideal. It truly is the lesser of evils. I happen to think at this point we have to stick to the Dem ticket, but that is just me.

    Now – on a side note – WTF is going to run for our next mayor? Both have been a joke. God help us.

  9. 9 jezebel282

    Paradise,

    The simple fact is that Ms. Masters has actual positions and plans. It is amazing to me that people seeking public office, especially locally, solely depend upon the quantity of lawn signs they can plant. No articles, no position papers. no debates, no postings…just lawn signs.

    I happened to watch the televised debate between Murphy and McMahon. (I know, I know. I should get a life) McMahon had nothing. Literally nothing to say about anything that would happen should she became a real U.S. Senator. Oh, she kinda sorta glossed over the RNC platform: tax cuts, magical deficit repair and of course claiming that she would not change Medicare (if you’re already getting it) and she actually said “job creators” a few times.

    The number of outright lies and distortions in this campaign season is breathtaking. More amazing is that no one seems to care. The more outrageous the charge the less people pay attention. My personal favorite are the GOP claims that Democrats want to cut $716 billion from Medicare. In itself that is simply untrue. What makes it outrageous is that the GOP themselves want to cut the same $716 Billion. But no matter. It’s those damned Democrats.

    And then there are the charges of “failed” policies. You know about “failed” policies don’t you? Those are the policies that were never enacted because the entire agenda of the Tea Party and GOP was to unanimously oppose every single bill presented by a Democrat. No matter what. That is like turning off the main circuit breaker in your house and complaining that it is dark.

    “It truly is the lesser of evils. I happen to think at this point we have to stick to the Dem ticket, but that is just me.”

    That is always the case. We always seem to presented with a choice of the least worst. I would have been much more satisfied if Christopher Shays had won the closed Republican primary. It may also have been more interesting if the GOP had fielded real candidates in the presidential race other than Tea Party wing nuts like Santorum, Gingrich or Bachmann. Seriously. What were you thinking, GOP?

    The choice is now between a President who doesn’t go far enough versus a man who will literally say anything to close a sale. I would discuss Romney’s positions if I didn’t think they would change by the time I finished typing this.

  10. 10 appalledandamused

    Terry Masters is definitely the right choice for Stratford. Truly as impressed with her campaign as I am unimpressed with Hoydick’s time in office. It’s not enough to be a local with name recognition. Masters is a hardworking candidate and deserves to prove herself in Hartford. Really a TERRIFIC choice for Stratford.

    So, what is it about Murphy that makes him “scum”, Paradisegreen? As far as I can tell the guy has done a good job voting in Congress. He far out-classes McMahon, who’s claim of ‘job creator’ makes those of us who have seen the kinds of jobs she’s created (usually involving women in compromising positions with folding chairs and chain saws) face palm our way through her second attempt at convincing us of her seriousness.

  11. 11 appalledandamused

    Regarding Romney: his position changed three times today on abortion rights. The permanent
    whiplash amongst his campaign staff that have to walk back his flagrant pandering dishonesty on a daily is hopefully not dealt with as a pre-existing condition.

  12. 12 jezebel282

    Appalled,

    Here is why Romney can say anything in any given speech with a straight face:
    The Tea Party and angry white conservatives will vote for anyone not named “Obama”. It is that simple. Romney knows that it doesn’t matter who fills the suit. His ego tells him that it should be him.

    Policies really don’t matter to Romney. In his world they are called “Features, Upgrades, Benefits and Return on Investment”. He knows that those are things that the marketing department can change in a heartbeat…depending on the potential customer.
    The problem with that, or at least for readers of this blog, is that it insults our intelligence. It’s as if we are incapable of remembering what he said yesterday.

    “Let me warn you and let me warn the Nation against the smooth evasion which says, “Of course we believe all these things; we believe in social security; we believe in work for the unemployed; we believe in saving homes. Cross our hearts and hope to die, we believe in all these things; but we do not like the way the present Administration is doing them. Just turn them over to us. We will do all of them- we will do more of them we will do them better; and, most important of all, the doing of them will not cost anybody anything.”

    But, my friends, these evaders are banking too heavily on the shortness of our memories. No one will forget that they had their golden opportunity—twelve long years of it.

    Remember, too, that the first essential of doing a job well is to want to see the job done. Make no mistake about this: the Republican leadership today is not against the way we have done the job. The Republican leadership is against the job’s being done.”

    Biden? Obama? Clinton?

    FDR. The address at the Democratic State Convention, Syracuse, N.Y.
    September 29, 1936
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=15142

  13. You could have saved us the trouble and stopped at ” angry white conservatives”.

  14. 14 jezebel282

    LOL!

  15. 15 Rockannand

    Wow. An entire thread without one idiotic comment from the conspiracy theorist. If this continues, I may actually come back to this blog regularly. I stopped reading the Star based on George’s weekly editorial column so this is pure bliss!!

  16. 16 jezebel282

    Stratford Polls will be open from 6AM-8PM on election day.

    As for me, I will be there early to make sure my tiny voice gets heard.

  17. 17 jezebel282

    Election silliness:

    Voting for Registrar of Voters.

    Since no one has ever challenged these purely Committee controlled positions, a single vote for either registrar would put both in the “elected” position (at taxpayer expense of course). So, aside from their own votes for themselves, why bother?

  18. 18 mikereynolds

    lol…I thought the same thing when I saw their names on the ballot. And the Democrats couldn’t find anyone to run against Kevin Kelly? Wow, is it that bad for them?

  19. 19 jezebel282

    Mike,

    “Wow, is it that bad for them?”

    Yeah, it is that bad. The DTC still has Buturla in charge. Nothing much has changed in the DTC since Miron got booted…twice. Poor pattern recognition skills.
    You would think that something called the “Democratic Town Committee” would, at the very least, have a link to you know, Democratic candidates in this election. Nope. I wonder if someone should call them and tell them about Obama and Chris Murphy and remind them that they are running today.

  20. 20 portia1776

    I have long noted that President Obama is no better than Nixon in his flagrantly anti-Constitutional behavior, but to no avail. The “Progressive” claim to care about civil (or any other) liberties was revealed to be patently false over the course of countless debates conducted here. Conformity, not conscientious objection, is the name of the game when The-Dear-Leader-You-Have-Been-Hoping-For is wielding power. Those interested in the history of our debates, to say nothing of the truth, can look back at what were the respective positions of me, Jez, Chris, and others.

    Mayor Moron once claimed to have “Googled” his business manager candidate’s name. People laughed at the absurdity of thinking that was an adequate substitute for a police background check, which Jimmy Miron had called off. But the funny part was actually what happened *when* you “Googled” the name. In the top ten results was to be found an article from the Boston Globe on multiple settled claims of sexual harassment that maybe, just maybe, should have called into question the candidate’s suitability. I suggest that such painful hilarity will also ensue when calling up my interlocutors squalid apologetics for this administration’s record. But, by all means, don’t take my word for it.

    Read it in the Times!
    “This was supposed to be the administration of unprecedented transparency….Instead, it’s turning out to be the administration of unprecedented secrecy and of unprecedented attacks on a free press. I wrote about the chilling effect of the Obama administration’s leak investigations – including the ramped-up criminal prosecution of those who provide information to the press — in a Sunday column in March.

    Now that situation, already bad, has taken a major turn for the worse with revelations that the Obama Justice Department had secretly seized the phone records of a large number of journalists for The Associated Press, as part of a leak investigation…. This isn’t just about press rights. It’s about the right of citizens to know what their government is doing. In an atmosphere of secrecy and punishment – despite the hollow promises of transparency — that’s getting harder every day.” [http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/14/leak-investigations-are-an-assault-on-the-press-and-on-democracy-too/]

    Read it in the Washington Post!
    “President Obama, a former constitutional law lecturer who came to office pledging renewed respect for civil liberties, is today running an administration at odds with his résumé and preelection promises.

    The Justice Department’s collection of journalists’ phone records and the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of conservative groups have challenged Obama’s credibility as a champion of civil liberties – and as a president who would heal the country from damage done by his predecessor.” [http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/justice-department-irs-scandals-challenge-obamas-civil-liberties-credibility/2013/05/14/d1bc56bc-bcc7-11e2-9b09-1638acc3942e_story.html]

    Considering these august publications are fair weather friends of freedom, only deigning to take notice that President Obama has a worse record than George W. Bush when it comes to violating the individual rights of Americans and foreigners after their own rights were violated, we may wish to turn to an unimpeachable source for perspective.

    James C. Goodale, the First Amendment champion who served as general counsel for The New York Times during the 1971 Pentagon Papers case (one of Jez’s favorites), said the following in an interview published on May 14th — “Obama has all these things that he’s done to the press on national security matters that Nixon never did.” [http://observer.com/2013/05/just-a-crook-pentagon-papers-lawyer-thinks-obama-is-worse-than-nixon/]

    Again, nothing new for those who have been paying the slightest mind to the subject. Already in 2010, Anthony Romero, executive director of the ACLU, said “I’m disgusted with this president.”

    Chris, wherever you are, you should be ashamed of yourself. Jez, there may still be time enough for you to renounce the Dark Side.

    No further comment.

  21. 21 jezebel282

    Portia,

    I agree! I think it was awful to waterboard those journal….oh wait a minute. Sorry, wrong president.

  22. 22 cpcalta

    Look what crawled out from under the rock. So much selective editing in your latest diatribe it’s absolutely laughable.

    For example, what is the entire context of Mr. Romero’s comments?

    Asked why he’s so animated now, Romero said: “It’s 18 months and, if not now, when? … Guantanamo is still not closed. Military commissions are still a mess. The administration still uses state secrets to shield themselves from litigation. There’s no prosecution for criminal acts of the Bush administration. Surveillance powers put in place under the Patriot Act have been renewed. If there has been change in the civil liberties context, I frankly don’t see it.”

    (http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0610/ACLU_chief_disgusted_with_Obama.html)

    By the way, given that the President didn’t have a filibuster proof majority for most of those 18 months, a lot of what Mr. Romero is complaining about wasn’t going to happen regardless of what the President wanted to happen. Unless of course you wanted the President to simply bypass the Constitution and make the decisions unilaterally. Then you would have been screaming about Presidential overreach.

    Could President Obama have vetoed the renewal of the Patriot Act? Sure. And for many reasons I would have preferred he do just that. Was I disappointed? Yes, but I have far fewer problems with the Obama Administration than the Bush Administration, which was responsible for a lot the legislation Mr. Romero was upset about when he made the statement you want to use as a condemnation of President Obama. And by the way, Mr. Romero also said this “I’m not disgusted at President Obama personally. It’s President Obama’s policies on civil liberties and national security issues I’m disgusted by. It’s not a personal attack.”

    As for the rest of your rant, it is your typical arrogant (anonymous) bluster. Last time I checked, NONE of the Amendments to the Constitution are without limitations. SCOTUS continues to interpret the meaning, intent, and limitations of the Constitution. I’ll wait to draw my conclusions on both the IRS and AP leak situations until there are actual facts that show a crime was committed. The Benghazi circus trumpeted by the GOP continues to unravel.

    “On Friday, Republicans leaked what they said was a quote from Rhodes: “We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities, including those of the State Department, and we don’t want to undermine the FBI investigation.”

    But it turns out that in the actual email, Rhodes did not mention the State Department.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57584947/wh-benghazi-emails-have-different-quotes-than-earlier-reported/

    Hmmm, that seems to undermine the GOP efforts to claim some nefarious cover up by the White House.

    And by the way, I hold my head up high, and don’t feel the need to hide behind an anonymous avatar and screen name to post my opinions. I also laugh heartily at your attempted insults, as they say much more about you than they do about me.

  23. 23 jezebel282

    Here is the problem with both of your arguments; Obama is far more conservative than either of you believe. The overwhelming urge to criticize anything and everything Obama does as the worst ever clouds the issues that should be discussed.

    Privacy issues should have been fully debated when the “Patriot” Act was renewed. But it wasn’t. The Benghazi story just isn’t a story. But it will be churned every day. The Federal budget should be in conference committee. But it isn’t. Congress should be able to pass laws with a majority. But they can’t. The IRS story doesn’t deserve the attention it is getting. But it is getting it.

    We pay attention when lunatics like Louie Gohmert and Michelle Bachman stand in front of any available microphone.

    We have lost the ability to reasonably debate issues. Instead, we as citizens, prefer to watch these “debates” as if they were mixed martial arts events.

  24. 24 cpcalta

    Jezebel, I’m going to push back just a bit and say privacy issues should have been fully debated NOT only when the Patriot Act was renewed, but when it was first brought before Congress. There are aspects of the Patriot Act that never should have been in there in the first place. It says it all right at the top of the original act, 107th Congress, 1st Session, in the Senate of the United States. Granted, Bush/Cheney were advocating for this legislation just as aggressively, and they advocated for expanded powers in 2004.

    And as to losing “the ability to reasonably debate issues,” I’ll point out again that the anonymity of blogs like this and the comments section on many sites does nothing to promote the lost civility you lament. When one can make an accusation, threat, insult or derogatory comment without any accountability whatsoever, it is a bit naive to expect a reasonable, civil debate. For what it’s worth, you don’t need to post your “rules” again. I know your argument on this subject, and on this point we simply will not agree.

    Of course this type of discourse is nothing new, as anyone who has studied the dueling newspapers supported by Jefferson and Hamilton is aware. The pseudonymous authorship of the columns allowed for all sorts of pejoratives to spill out on the pages.

  25. 25 jezebel282

    If you will recall, this site was originally started by someone called “Playwrite” and anonymity was provided to promote the free expression of opinions without persecution during the bad old Miron days. Those were the days when someone who expressed an opinion differing from Miron’s was labelled a “rat” who must be “exterminated”. I still believe anonymity promotes freedom of expression. At the same time it also promotes irresponsibility. I believe the former is far more valuable than the latter and that we will just have to expect a bit of waste product.. “He started it first” is not a valid defense.

    Nonetheless, it is interesting to note that during the entire Bush Administration any objection to Bush/Cheney policies (like starting wars) was derided as “unpatriotic”. Now anything the President does is automatically unpatriotic.

    I simply find it sad that on a national level that we can no longer reasonably discuss anything.

  26. 26 portia1776

    Chrs/Cstract/Cpcalta, you have no shame. And I see that time has done nothing to improve your reading or reasoning skills, either. I would have hoped that you were spending all this time while I was away diligently working to re-mediate your glaring intellectual and moral deficiencies but, for shame, a delinquent you remain.

    “So much selective editing” — Methinks you don’t know what is entailed by the act of quoting. To quote is by definition to be selective. If I wasn’t selective, I would have pasted each article in full. Would that have made you happier? Jez, I’m guessing, would not have been amused. What you meant by this malformed jibe is to say that my quotes do not reflect the thrust of the articles. Ok… that is easily checked. Read them in full. Where in Margaret Sullivan’s indictment [ http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/14/leak-investigations-are-an-assault-on-the-press-and-on-democracy-too/ ] of the Obama administration’s for its “unprecedented secrecy and [for its] unprecedented attacks on a free press” do you find a sentence to hang your hat on? Where does she take it all back and say, ‘well, Obama and the Democrats controlled the White House, Congress, and the Senate with majorities that rendered Republican opposition to Obamacare and anything else they felt like passing completely irrelevant, but because the Dear Leader didn’t have veto-proof majorities, he should be forgiven for pushing for the unamended extension of the Patriot Act and all his other violations of the rights of Americans and foreigners.” What you fail to realize is that veto-proof majorities would have been unnecessary for another reason: Republicans such as Rand Paul and Mike Lee and the brave few others who take their oath to the Constitution seriously have been stalwart opponents of President Obama’s worse-than-Bush or even Nixon (NIXON!) civil liberties record. You could not run from your boy, ex-mayor Miron’s abysmal record of arrogance, incompetence and corruption and now you cannot run for President Obama’s abysmal record of arrogance, incompetence and corruption

    “For example, what is the entire context of Mr. Romero’s comments?” — How does providing the context, really a list of how President Obama had violated his campaign promises to restore pre-Bush civil liberties, help your case? Actually, it doesn’t. Especially when you consider the key phrase in the quote “18 months.” Romero was speaking in 2010! Three years later, not only has nothing changed, but the Obama administration’s violation of civil liberties ihas gotten dramatically worse — worse than under Nixon (by all means try to impeach James C. Goodale, whose shoes you are not fit to grovel before)! No matter how much “Progressives” like you claim to hope and believe in civil liberties, the fact is that you will never deviate from the Talking Points. At the end of the day, you will assert unto absurdity that whatever a “Progressive” president does is not illegal. Now where have I heard that before? Oh, right http://youtu.be/ejvyDn1TPr8

    “a lot of what Mr. Romero is complaining about wasn’t going to happen regardless of what the President wanted to happen.” — What he wanted to happen is what happened: the Patriot Act was renewed without amendment. Really, Chris, is this the best you can do?

    “Unless of course you wanted the President to simply bypass the Constitution and make the decisions unilaterally. Then you would have been screaming about Presidential overreach.” — You mean like how President Obama wantonly violated the free speech, property, and privacy rights of reporters? How he uses drones to kill American citizens without due process? How he has used the IRS and other organs of the state to violate the rights of law-abiding entrepreneurs and political activists? How he went to war/”kinetic military action” in Libya without Congressional approval? I can go on…

    “Could President Obama have vetoed the renewal of the Patriot Act? Sure.” — Why would he veto unconstitutional provisions that he supported? “It should come as no surprise that President Barack Obama supports renewing the provisions, which were part of the Patriot Act approved six weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

    As an Illinois senator in 2008, he voted to allow the warrantless monitoring of Americans’ electronic communications if they are communicating overseas with somebody the government believes is linked to terrorism. That legislative package, which President George W. Bush signed, also immunized the nation’s telecommunication companies from lawsuits charging them with being complicit with the Bush administration’s warrantless, wiretapping program.” [ http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/obama-backs-expiring-patriot-act-spy-provisions/ ]

  27. 27 portia1776

    “And for many reasons I would have preferred he do just that. Was I disappointed?” — You’re “disappointed.” How nice. Does your “disappointment” translate into doing anything about this administration’s continued violation of the civil and economic liberties of Americans? If not, then you can keep your fraudulent concern to your lonesome.

    “Yes, but I have far fewer problems with the Obama Administration than the Bush Administration” — ROFLMAO. Yes, even though the Obama Administration is by every metric worse than Bush/Cheney (or even Nixon – NIXON!), you still hate Bush more. That makes a lot of sense. Oh, wait, no it doesn’t to any person who is not a “Progressive” propagandist.

    “you want to use as a condemnation of President Obama” — LOL. I, like Romero, have nothing against Obama personally. To quote Romero “It’s President Obama’s policies on civil liberties and national security issues I’m disgusted by. It’s not a personal attack.”

    “Last time I checked, NONE of the Amendments to the Constitution are without limitations.” — Just because limits have been placed does not make them lawful. The protections of American’s constitutional liberties are absolute or they don’t exist. You can’t be half-pregnant when it comes to free speech or property rights.

    “I’ll wait to draw my conclusions on both the IRS and AP leak situations until there are actual facts that show a crime was committed.” — You mean like how you are still waiting for all the evidence before coming to a conclusion about Miron’s disgusting legacy? How you still think it was a good idea to hire Justin “justifiably terminated http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Stratford-can-fire-cop-who-crashed-cruiser-4232839.php” Loschiavo and Mark “inappropriate messages http://www.lowellsun.com/news/ci_19479488” Haddad? Too bad more people are not as patient as you.

    “The Benghazi circus” — Four Americans were needlessly killed in the line of duty and their deaths were lied about and covered-up by the Obama administration for political purposes, and all you can do is point to some GOP ineptitude (tell me something new). For shame.

    “And by the way, I hold my head up high,” — At full intellectual and moral height, you can just about reach my ankles.

    “don’t feel the need to hide behind an anonymous avatar and screen name to post my opinions.” — How many times has Jez said that the identity of the poster has no bearing on the validity (there I go again…) of the argument?

  28. 28 portia1776

    Thank you, Jez, for defending freedom of expression and reminding readers about the bad old Miron days — those days when Chris and company bullied and harassed anyone who questioned or dissented from the astounding stupidity and corruption of the malevolent Miron administration.

    ““He started it first” is not a valid defense.” — You mean like Chris’ contention that Obama should not be blamed for continuing and in fact far exceeding the unconstitutional executive excesses of Bush/Cheney or even Nixon (NIXON!)?

    “during the entire Bush Administration any objection to Bush/Cheney policies (like starting wars) was derided as “unpatriotic”. Now anything the President does is automatically unpatriotic.” — On the contrary. I have repeatedly derided Bush/Cheney’s unconstitutional policies. How many times did I write about the misnamed or “Un-” “Patriotic Act”? But since I’m not one to pass up an opportunity to say so again: the Bush and Cheney’s administration was profoundly unpatriotic in its violation of our civil and economic liberties. I look forward to reading your similar declaration about this administration’s unprecedented, profoundly unpatriotic violations of our civil and economic liberties.

  29. 29 cpcalta

    Portia, what an amazing diatribe from a sanctimonious, anonymous browbeater who stated he/she would have “No further comment.” We all knew that was a lie. And yet I’m the bully? That’s hilarious, especially coming from a person who hurls insults while hiding behind an avatar. Although I have to admit I enjoy poking the bear. Unlike you, who appears to need to “prove” you’re the smartest person in the room, I’m comfortable enough with who I am and my intelligence to know I don’t need to attempt to tear others down to engage in a discussion. If you think anything an anonymous poster says on a blog is going to have any effect on my me, you are seriously deluded and vastly overvalue your feeble efforts. But feel free to continue on. As I keep saying. your arrogance and invective says much more about you than it does me.

  30. 30 jezebel282

    Whew!

    You two should really get a room.

    From Portia:
    “The protections of American’s constitutional liberties are absolute or they don’t exist.”
    Actually, no they are not absolute. At least not since Marbury v Madison. At every session of the Supreme Court our liberties expand or contract. The United States endures a constant push & pull from many quarters concerning constitutional liberties.

    From CPCalta:
    “If you think anything an anonymous poster says on a blog is going to have any effect on my me, you are seriously deluded and vastly overvalue your feeble efforts.”
    Then why bother reading it? Or responding to it?

    What is interesting is that (minus the invectives) Portia seems to be taking a much more Liberal position that cpcalta. Unfortunately for Portia, hardly anything in civil society is absolute. Everything is a compromise of some sort. For instance as an extreme example, to live safely we agree to give up the freedom to murder. Those who continue to pursue that freedom must face consequences.

    It is this process of debate and agreement within our elected government and society that is suffering. In the 1930’s we were able to agree that machine guns should not be on store shelves. Today we cannot even reasonably discuss automated background checks.

    Much the same is true for health care. Nothing touches Americans more than health care. Not guns, not financial regulation, not the courts, not the military, nothing. Yet hardly anything is more of a burden on Americans than health care costs. Of all the ways to resolve this incredibly important issue which one did we turn to? The last choice of any reasonable person: Politicians. 535 people who will sway with the slightest wisp of electoral or corporate sentiment.

    What we cannot forget is that the Constitution was not written by God on Mount Sinai. It was written by men in Philadelphia. It is not a Commandment, it is an agreement. Without a reasonable exchange of ideas we can no longer reach an agreement.

  31. 31 cpcalta

    Did you not catch the line about poking the bear? Besides, I can choose to reply to a comment while laughing at the absurdity and/or arrogance of the person posting it.

    Now as to your point about positions, you are correct in implying that I am not an absolutist (cue the expected insults and such) when it comes to a lot of these issues. There are many laws and policies I could cite that I would prefer to see eliminated, changed, amended or enhanced, but I also recognize that in our system of government, especially one with such divisive, intractable political factions so deeply entrenched in purist ideology (and that goes for all sides), unfortunately compromise is word (and act) that often elicits ridicule and, as we see from Portia’s many absolutist positions and statements, derision.

    I somewhat disagree with the comment regarding “535 people who will sway with the slightest wisp of electoral or corporate sentiment.” They rarely march in lockstep with electoral sentiment. I think it is more appropriate to say they will sway with whichever way the money flows, be it special interest or corporate. The individual is often tied to the corporate, so it is often a challenge to differentiate between the two.


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