Stratford Army Engine Plant

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Coming Attractions

While we wait for the next four to six months (or longer?) for Main Street to reopen, many residents believe it is because a new road is being constructed. That is only partially true. The closure of Main Street is a small taste of what may be coming. While the brave crews work to remediate the site, it was deemed so potentially dangerous that civilians shouldn’t even drive by it. Thus the closure. How dangerous? Aside from the asbestos (We are certainly familiar with that in Stratford aren’t we?) there are the PCB’s, lead, mercury, arsenic, a variety of VOC’s (Volatile Organic Chemicals) and other unpronounceable chemicals that have leached into those few acres from the Stratford Army Engine Plant.

Which, to any reasonable person, means that the clean up of the Stratford Army Engine Plant (SAEP) is going to be exponentially larger, more complex and expensive. The SAEP is still owned by the U.S. Army. The sale to Point Stratford Renewal has not been executed due to the disagreement over the cost of remediation and, well, who will pay for it. While Stratford has been taken out of this loop many years ago due to mismanagement, it remains Stratford residents who will be the most effected.

Why bring this up? Because citizens should know what they are being exposed to. We certainly can’t depend on Harkins and his group of press release writers.

“The mayor said the site will eventually see a “mixed-use” development…the property will gradually become transformed into an attractive and “vibrant” part of town with a greenway, hotel, apartments, retail outlets and other amenities.”

Amenities? Like men in moon suits? Unfortunately, we will not be able to see what’s going on during the airport phase due to the worthy attempt to keep civilians as far away and as safe as possible. But to ignore reality and to propose that everything will be puppies and rainbows is an insult to every citizen of Stratford. As we have been shown repeatedly by this mayor, truth is the last thing we can expect from him.

45 Responses to “Stratford Army Engine Plant”

  1. 1 jezebel282

    While we’re on the subject of truth from this mayor, one of the key reasons Harkins used to justify this giveaway of Stratford land was the elimination of flooding on Main Street.

    According to the engineers, Main Street will only be elevated by a total of twelve inches. It will still flood.

  2. 2 stratfordvillageidiot


  3. 3 jezebel282

    And, as usual, the only problem the Stratford Star could find after an intense “investigation” is this:

    Lordship detour adds about a mile and two minutes
    By Stratford Star on November 6, 2014

    And in their typical minimalistic pattern:

    “the road is expected to be closed for a not longer than four months.”

    Not to worry. We’ll check back in March.
    We’re sure the Star will have many announcements of pizza restaurant and nail salon openings between now and then.

  4. 4 stratfordvillageidiot

    Nothing positive will happen unless one developer is appointed for both the Engine Plant and the Airport who isn’t linked to the usual suspects of local developers who are land bankers and slumlords.

    The airport needs to be developed hand in hand into a viable economic engine along with those 77 contaminated acres that are being kept on life support by the Army. We’re approaching the 20th anniversary of the plant being shutdown. That equates to about $60M or so in maintenance costs over the years to keep the place empty. If the clean-up wasn’t that bad the Army would have leveled the place a long time ago and sold it off rather than foot those costs while playing cat and mouse.

    These two properties are like the twin sisters on American Horror Story. Two heads, one body, differing ideas of what’s best and willing to stab the other to get their way.

    Until one developer gets control over these two properties this area will continue to be like picking the same scab over and over.

  5. 5 jezebel282


    The first problem you have is that although both properties are within Stratford, neither are owned or controlled by anyone in Stratford. The second problem you have is that a LOT of people live in close proximity to both. The third problem is that whatever you do has an enormous chance of harming many, many families.

    What we don’t have and have never had is the truth about any of this. We are very, very tired for instance of hearing that this whole road closure and remediation is for “drainage” issues. Clearly, a maximum elevation increase of twelve inches won’t resolve “drainage” issues.

  6. 6 stratfordvillageidiot

    You are right on all counts. Harming families is a subjective word choice though because no one knows what will eventually happen with the airport and the plant or if any of these plans will ever proceed other than the purported “safety zone”.

    Will there be more harm if the airport and plant are developed or will there be more harm by doing nothing and letting the contamination continue to leak into residential areas. No one ever talks about the chromium flue running underneath the plant or how the Army does not want residential development of any kind on that property.

    The Westchester Airport in White Plains was developed to a commercial standard and it lives down the block from homes that sell for up to twenty times what those in Lordship do. Why can’t the airport be developed in the same way? If it works for Greenwich and White Plains why can’t it work for the good people of Lordship?

    Without these two being developed in tandem the numbers don’t work.

    I think more harm comes from doing nothing. I know I wouldn’t eat anything grown in a garden on that side of town!

  7. 7 jezebel282


    There are many factors here. The first of which is that Bridgeport owns the airport and that Stratford can only lose. It’s not quite fair to compare White Plains to Bridgeport. White Plains draws from Westchester, Rockland, NYC and Northern NJ. Bridgeport would have to compete with seven airports. One of them being 16 air miles away. It’s just not economically reasonable. Oh! And White Plains has one more feature; it’s not surrounded on three sides by water.

  8. 8 stratfordvillageidiot

    I don’t understand how Stratford can only lose. If the airport were to be developed a deal would have to be struck whereby Stratford could share in revenue. That’s not a stretch and that’s not a hard deal for any Mayor with a set of balls to broker. Secondly, referring to Tweed, there’s no room for collateral development in that area. Its as developed as it will ever be and there’s no real lure for new business to New Haven as it will always be Yale’s town. Sikorsky has 77 acres adjacent to it to be developed, the corridor to Knapp’s and the land banked along Lordship Blvd. to I-95. Tweed and White Plains have none of that. Tweed has wall to wall blue collar homes and White Plains has multi-million mansions. Neither will be displaced. Access to White Plains on the Connecticut side is restricted to the Merritt which isn’t truck-friendly. Sikorsky has several hundred acres of undeveloped land bordering and flanking its main truck-friendly access route towards interstate transportation.

    Bridgeport is an anomaly. It’s the biggest city in Connecticut on the most traveled interstate with a harbor and yet its a ghost town. If Bloomberg and Giuliani were the Mayors of Bridgeport and Stratford respectively they’d be breaking ground tomorrow on the airport and the engine plant and arm wrestling over parking fees. The airport is a cornerstone to the revitalization of the region which includes Stratford. There have been enough studies that show LaGuardia is stretched to its limit and that Sikorsky is the solution due to its proximity to NY along the I-95 corridor and Metro-North. Without the airport being developed there will be endless talk about who’s cleaning up the engine plant, where’s the money coming from for re-opening the former Shakespeare Theater that has no blue chip corporate sponsors and how did the old Remington property in Bridgeport catch fire again when the tax bill came due. This has been the same story for the past twenty years. The fact is that Stratford doesn’t really want anything other than pizza parlors, nail salons and The Windsock. I think it deserves better. So should its next Mayor. Ten years from now we will be having the same exchange of opinions unless someone breaks this logjam.

  9. 9 jezebel282

    Sadly, I believe you’re mistaken. Simply putting up an airport and some office buildings will not transform Stratford or Bridgeport. The flying commercial population just won’t support an airport…Of any size. Not when there are trains, turnpikes and ferries. An “overtaxed” LaGuardia is the reason for White Plains and Macarthur, not Bridgeport. New Haven has sufficient runway lengths as well as parking and they struggle to survive.

    Of course, you could always build a bridge from Bridgeport to Port Jefferson.

  10. 10 stratfordvillageidiot

    A bridge from Bridgeport to Port Jefferson would be great but what would be even better is a bridge between the Republicans and Democrats in Stratford. Alas, neither stands a chance of ever happening!

    Thanks for letting me spout off!

  11. 11 jezebel282


    No problem. That’s what we’re here for.

    Umm….What Democrats? There are Democrats in Stratford?

  12. 12 stratfordvillageidiot

    Of course there are Democrats in Stratford. I read it on the internet.

  13. 13 1cyclops

    You all probably don’t remember – but I do. Our very first hired professional town manager back in 1976, Bern Ewert, proposed a business plan to the town council that the town outright purchase the airport. And, at the time, Bridgeport was very interested in selling. Just think, if the council had not rejected his professional plan, where we would be today.

  14. 14 jezebel282

    1976? You mean when everyone had a job and taxes were about $300 a year?

  15. 15 1cyclops

    Yes about jobs….taxes were a bit more than $300 but included the sewer fee, a lot less than the $8,000+ bill of today plus another $400 separate billing for sewers. It is disgusting.

  16. 16 stratfordvillageidiot

    Bridgeport has always been interested in selling. Stratford has never been interested in buying. It would be in Bridgeport’s best interest to sell and see it developed. It would be in Stratford’s best interest to buy it and develop it. There is no leadership or vision in the Mayor’s office.

  17. 17 jezebel282

    Are we back to the airport? We can’t even get a theater running and you think we could handle an airport? At least the theater wouldn’t crash into anyone. And it probably won’t destroy neighborhoods.

    But hey, we’ve got Lou Decilio and Kent Miller involved in the decision about the theater. What could possibly go wrong?

  18. 18 stratfordvillageidiot

    I didn’t say that I believed the current administration could handle taking a leadership role in the development of those two properties. Those two properties are tied together in more ways than what meets the eye. There is even an environmental impact on the development of the theater from the engine plant that I believe none of the proposed developers have addressed yet. Its just my opinion that the way the Mayor has handled economic development (no pun intended) Stratford will be in for some heartache that it doesn’t deserve.

    Who said anything about destroying neighborhoods? Frankly, I would be more worried about what’s under the ground than what might be in the air!

  19. 19 jezebel282

    Apparently, Harkins is taking definitive action on all fronts by appointing Dave Fuller as Legislative and Constituent Liaison or something ridiculous sounding like that. We wonder what the salary is for that? Who cares? It’s only our tax money. It’s not like it’s in the budget or anything.

  20. 20 stratfordvillageidiot

    Woo hoo! Instead of taking the lead Harkins passes the buck. Your buck that is from your wallet to Dave Fuller’s.

    I guess there will be one more person in the photo op when the next “Happy Beauty Nail Salon & Pizza Shop” opens.

  21. 21 jezebel282


    Apparently, there seems to be a few citizens left that think Main Street is closed to “fix” the flooding problem.

    Stratford road closure upsets residents
    Published 7:31 pm, Monday, November 17, 2014

    So let’s repeat this: Main Street is not closed due to some “flooding problem”. At the end of the project the new route for Main Street will only be elevated a maximum of twelve inches. It will still flood. The DOT has said it will still flood. In print.

    The road is closed due to the toxicity of the materials embedded in the ground. And it’s not just asbestos and it’s not just “Raymark Waste”. (Stratfordites have heard the term “Raymark Waste” so often that they think it is a natural substance.) The toxins contained in this airport project are the result of the reckless and dangerous way the U.S. Government managed the Army Engine Plant, A.K.A. “Allied Signal”, “Avco”, “SAEP”.

    Of course, no one mentions this tiny aspect. Not the mayor, not the 1st District Councilman, not the “newspapers”….no one. We are always told by them it is to fix the “flooding problem”.

    Once again, it is not closed to fix a flooding problem. It is closed because the site is so toxic that they do not want citizens even driving by it. Got it?

  22. 22 stratfordvillageidiot

    Very well said, but for anyone who doubts this I have two words for you:

    Erin Brokovich

    Can you spell chromium?

  23. 23 stratfordvillageidiot
  24. 24 Rockannand

    /Users/rockannand/Pictures/iPhoto Library/Masters/2014/11/24/20141124-090116/Ireland-Sign.jpg How about this sign for Main St near the closure?

  25. 25 jezebel282


    DEEP requires more riverbed testing before cleanup plan
    Engine Plant sale pending
    By Greg Reilly on November 26, 2014

    “Before the sale-purchase agreement was signed in late October 2013, the Army reportedly agreed to pay for remediation of the riverbed without knowing how much work and how much money would be required for that cleanup.”

    Gee, we dunno. Last time we looked it was around $90 million.

    “Tentative development plans for the Engine Plant property have called for mixed-uses including residential, retail, service, and recreational purposes.”

    ROTFLMAO! The Town is still going with that fairytale? Hint: It doesn’t have a happy ending.

    In the meantime, between the multi-million dollar remediation on the empty field by the airport, the sale of WPCA land to itself, the Shakespeare Theater, the inordinate amount of taxes we pay plus the personal problems of the mayor this Council is getting down to the businesses that really matters to most citizens:

    Smoking ban at town parks public hearing Nov. 24
    By Stratford Star on November 19, 2014

    AYFKM? Someone having a cigarette at Short Beach Golf Course or oh, I don’t know, the parking lots of Baldwin Center, Library or Train Station is a big issue in this Town? Where are the angry letters complaining about it?

    Ok let’s reduce the dozen or so guys playing golf at Short Beach to 3 or 4 guys. What the hell, it’s not like we’ve made any money at the golf course in years. This should go over well reducing the number of people attending Blues on the Beach as well.

    You get right to it, brave Council.

  26. 26 stratfordvillageidiot

    I am all for a smoking ban at public places in Stratford. I am also for a peanut ban at Harbor Yard in the event someone attending may have a peanut allergy. I would also like to propose a ban on public hearings and propose that we have a public hearing to discuss this ban.

    It makes sense that the Army will extend the area around the tidal flats to determine the real cost of remediation. I know that I would want to be certain that the raw oysters I’ve been tossing down don’t glow in the dark.

    It also makes sense that the town is going to do some environmental testing around the theater before moving forward with any of the plans.

    BTW, has anyone ever seen any fish in that pond by the Shakespeare Theater?

  27. 27 Rockannand

    Now wait a minute. I’m one of those guys who plays golf at Short Beach … and when i do i smoke a cigar. Let’s see them stop me.

  28. 28 jezebel282


    If the ordinance ever passes, you can always go to the Orchards in Milford. They are pretty nice over there.

    The ordinance itself was, well, not thought through. “Town Property” could be anything. Sidewalks, parking lots, streets, empty lots, abandoned properties or almost anywhere not owned by someone. It was just silly.

    It’s kind of like making adultery illegal on Town Property. Oh, wait a minute……

  29. 29 stratfordvillageidiot

    @rock I suggest you attend one of these public hearings and present your case with a nine iron. Anything else might be considered too heavy handed.

    @jez And while we were talking about cigars and putters—after hearing Bill Clinton’s definition of sex I would like to hear what the Mayor’s definition is for the record. I’m sure the new statute will be drafted accordingly.

  30. 30 Rockannand

    OK, here’s the latest on the SAEP remediation process. They now have a $200K grant to see how bad things are with the buildings and what ever is left over will be used as they see fit. Seems the US Army is not excited about taking responsibility ($$) for whatever clean up will be done.

  31. 31 jezebel282


    Let’s first understand that these “studies” have been done before. Many times before. Most of the buildings on the property are unsafe for humans. Everything from asbestos coated pipes and ceilings to lead paint.

    “While the engine plant does border the Sikorsky Airport property in Stratford, Iott says the plant’s contamination is “completely different” from the Raymark waste that is currently being excavated.”

    This part is simply untrue. It is so untrue that it is stunning. Most of what is going on on Main Street is due to VOC’s and PCB’s leaching into the property and the pools of stuff underneath from the SAEP. Plus our homegrown Raybestos Waste (TM). How come no one just says “asbestos”? Is “Raymark Waste” special?

    The simple fact is that the Engine Plant under different iterations such as Avco Lycoming, Allied Signal et al, was always owned by the U.S. Army and leased to whatever corporation was running it. As such, the property was exempt from any EPA, OSHA or anyone’s regulations, guidelines or protocols. Under this arrangement, the corporations were free to do whatever they wanted with whatever they had. And that is why we have this massive contaminated site in the middle of our Town.

    The Army, and therefore the Federal Government, continue to deny any culpability whatsoever for this mess. The Town of Stratford has already burned their bridges with the Feds, given the shenanigans of our Town Council and people like Debbie Rose and Norm Aldrich.

    We fear that the conversion of the SAEP into usable taxable property may not take place within our lifetimes.

  32. 32 Rockannand

    Thanks Jez. I was hoping you would provide these “clarifications”. This fairy tale being sold by Harkins and company that this property will be remediated and become ratable commercial land that brings in real revenue to the town is a joke.

  33. 33 jezebel282


    State lawmakers applaud Army Engine Plant grant
    By Stratford Star on February 12, 2016

    Stratford’s state representatives are pleased to hear about the $200,000 state grant that will be used for investigatory work at the Stratford Army Engine Plant.


    Seriously? $200,00 to determine what? That it is a toxic wonderland? A veritable supermarket of VOC’s, PCB’s and a warehouse full of other carcinogens?

    “The U.S. Army currently contracts for caretaker services with a Firm Fixed Price (FFP) contract vehicle. The current contract was awarded for one year under Contract Number W9124J-14-C-0064, valued at $4.0 M.”

    $4 million/year just to maintain the empty buildings and we are supposed to get excited that politicians are doing their job by coming up with $200K to determine that…well we don’t know what they expect to determine other than being a toxic site. They could have asked the company that the FAA just paid to clean up a tiny fraction of the mess that leached to the airport. That might give them a clue worth at least $200K of tax money.

    “Considering the proposed site development includes a residential component, further study of the level of remediation necessary is most welcome,” said Gresko, who took over as the 121st District state representative on Feb. 3 after winning a special election to succeed the late Rep. Terry Backer.”

    Tsk, tsk, Joe. You should know better than this. Back in 1998 when the Army closed the plant they determined that the costs to remediate the property would be north of $90 million. And that would only be to a “light industrial” level. In fact, their conclusion stated that it would probably never be remediated to a point where a human could actually live there safely. We are very disappointed you are selling this drivel, Joe.

    “Hoydick said she is “encouraged that the project has recently received a bonding grant, and now a brownfield grant from the State of Connecticut,”
    “The project is vital to Stratford’s economic success and I applaud Mayor [John] Harkins and his administration for continuing to pursue all avenues of advancement with regard to this project,” she said.”

    Oh please. This again? The deal is between the U.S. Army, GSA, EPA, DEEP and Point Stratford Renewal. The Town of Stratford has zero involvement. None. What is Harkins getting credit for? Sitting in his office? Going to the ALEC meetings? Being the mayor when stuff happens?

    The answer will be what the answer always was. The Federal Government must step up and be responsible for the mess they created.

  34. 34 stfdprofessor1

    Jez I thought this was all puppies and rainbows just a week before Harkins reelection, it was “going to ge great, just great.” “We were going to make America, I mean Stratford Great again.” “We were going to build a wall around the army engine plant and the army was going to pay for it”, OOooops wrong republican philanderer, must have been a senior moment.

    What happened to Harkins puppies and rainbows???

  35. 35 jezebel282


    You know how these Republicans are. If it sounds good it must be true. Unless a Democrat says it.

  36. 36 stfdprofessor1

    That will be very apparent with the upcoming supreme court nomination.

  37. 37 stfdprofessor1

    I’d love to see the president nominate himself when congress is on recess, then there would be no conformation necessary, but I don’t know if he’s able to hold two offices at once. If Joe Gresko can do it, why not?

  38. 38 stfdprofessor1

    It actually makes more sense than TWO full time regristrars in an age where it can all be done by computer (oh my goodness I just realized I’m starting to post a thought at a time like Ron Moreau…not that that’s bad…I always liked Ron Moreau).

  39. 39 missgreeneyes118

    Team Stratford Management, LLC
    9 Gerhard Road, Suite Ll
    Plainview, New York 11803
    NYS Entity Status
    NYS Filing Date
    NOVEMBER 22, 2006

    In April 2007 they become GREENBELT PARTNERS, LLC
    Registered Agent
    NYS Entity Type
    Name History


  40. 40 jezebel282


    Wow! You’re good! Did you happen to get any principal names like Aldrich or Willinger or other popular political people?

  41. 41 missgreeneyes118

    Well I did see this online too:

    Stratford Army Engine Plant[edit]
    The Stratford Army Engine Plant (SAEP) was a U.S. Army Tank-Automotive and Armaments Command installation and manufacturing facility, located along the Housatonic River and Main Street opposite Sikorsky Airport. Because of the Base Realignment and Closure actions of the United States Department of Defense, closure of the plant was recommended in July 1995. The SAEP closed on September 30, 1998. For the next 11 years the Army was involved with “Team Stratford” to develop the property. The United States Army, which owns the 78-acre (320,000 m2) site, auctioned it off on March 19, 2008,[14] with a winning bid of $9,612,000 which also includes the 1,720,000-square-foot (160,000 m2) facility of over fifty buildings. This bid failed to be paid off and is now being placed for rebid. Currently Robert Hartmann of Hartmann Development has a $1 billion plan to develop the former Army engine plant into a destination resort

    What is interesting is the
    Business Inquiry

    Name Change History
    Business ID Business Name

    Old Name Filing Number Filing Date
    TEAM STRATFORD, LLC 0003444924 Apr 30, 2007

    Business Inquiry

    Filing History
    Business ID Business Name

    Filing Number Filing Date/Time Effective Date/Time Filing Type Volume Type Volume Start Page Page #
    0002014665 Aug 27, 1999 8:30 AM ORGANIZATION B 00286 3223 3
    0002488023 Oct 09, 2002 8:30 AM REPORT (2000) B 00532 1642 2
    0002488025 Oct 09, 2002 8:30 AM REPORT (2001) B 00532 1646 2
    0002488026 Oct 09, 2002 8:30 AM REPORT (2002) B 00532 1648 2
    0003106238 Jan 13, 2006 10:43 AM REPORT (2003) B 00859 1950 2
    0003106239 Jan 13, 2006 10:44 AM REPORT (2004) B 00859 1952 2
    0003106241 Jan 13, 2006 10:44 AM REPORT (2005) B 00859 1958 2
    0003282199 Aug 18, 2006 8:30 AM REPORT (2006) B 00951 2245 2
    0003309879 Oct 03, 2006 8:30 AM ADDRESS B 00965 3652 1
    0003444919 Apr 30, 2007 10:00 AM INTERIM NOTICE B 01035 0630 1
    0003444921 Apr 30, 2007 10:00 AM AGENT B 01035 0633 1
    0003444924 Apr 30, 2007 10:00 AM AMEND NAME B 01035 0637 1
    0003523953 Aug 24, 2007 8:30 AM REPORT (2007) B 01075 3236 2
    0003990504 Aug 17, 2009 3:22 PM REPORT (2008) B 01315 3362 2

    Business Inquiry

    Business Details
    Business Name: GREENBELT PARTNERS, LLC Citizenship/State Inc: Domestic/CT
    Business ID: 0628948 Last Report Filed Year: 2008
    Business Address: C/O WILLINGER, WILLINGER & BUCCI, P.C., 855 MAIN STREET, BRIDGEPORT, CT, 06604 Business Type: Domestic Limited Liability Company
    Mailing Address: C/O WILLINGER, WILLINGER & BUCCI, P.C., 855 MAIN STREET, BRIDGEPORT, CT, 06604 Business Status: Active
    Date Inc/Registration: Aug 27, 1999

    Principals Details
    Name/Title Business Address Residence Address

    Agent Summary
    Agent Business Address WILLINGER, WILLINGER & BUCCI, PC, 855 MAIN ST., 5TH FL., BRIDGEPORT, CT, 06604
    Agent Residence Address 25 PARIS ST., MILFORD, CT, 06460

    9 Gerhard Rd, Plainview, New York is the Residence Inn

  42. 42 jezebel282


    Willinger, Willinger & Bucci? Go figure, huh? They don’t make enough in Bridgeport?

    We don’t know anything about Hartmann. Probably due to the lack of $1 billion.

    The last we heard, the “winning” bid was made by Point Stratford Renewal They have an almost equally unbelievable plan on their website. But the last we heard there has been no transfer of title ( The Army still owns it) and no cash has changed hands. It could be that the costs of remediation are a tad more than expected? In any event, nothing much has been made public since 2014. Except for the random announcement or an election.

  43. 43 stfdprofessor1

    “Except for the random announcement or an election.”…Exactly my point

    Missgreeneyes EXCELLENT JOB on the research. Thank you!!!

  44. 44 missgreeneyes118

    Having read the record, I hereby ORDER, pursuant to Section 36b-27(d) of the Act, that:
    1. A fine of one hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) be imposed against Point Stratford Development, LLC f/k/a Hollywood East/Area 51, LLC to be remitted to the Department by cashier’s check, certified check or money order, made payable to “Treasurer, State of Connecticut”, no later than forty-five (45) days from the date the Order Imposing Fine is mailed; and
    2. This Order Imposing Fine shall become final when mailed.

    Dated at Hartford, Connecticut, ______/s/__________
    this 7th day of March 2012. Howard F. Pitkin
    Banking Commissioner

    Point Stratford Development, LLC
    f/k/a Hollywood East/Area 51, LLC
    c/o Willinger, Willinger & Bucci, P.C., Agent
    855 Main Street
    Bridgeport, CT 06604
    Certified mail no. 7011 0470 0002 2573 4148

  45. 45 jezebel282

    And did they ever find Hector in Mexico?

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